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Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74610] Sun, 22 October 2006 06:38 Go to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
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I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead to
blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder on
c root.
c:\xxxx
I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make any
difference !!
It makes !!
DO IT !!
Thats for XP of course.
Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
Regards,
Dimitrios
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74615 is a reply to message #74610] Sun, 22 October 2006 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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copy it to create c:\emu ?

and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever I've got
it ;-)

plugins and everything ?

Any idea how this prevents crashes?

Duh-ON

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453b7449$1@linux...
>
> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead to
> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder on
> c root.
> c:\xxxx
> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make any
> difference !!
> It makes !!
> DO IT !!
> Thats for XP of course.
> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74622 is a reply to message #74615] Sun, 22 October 2006 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
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Registered: August 2005
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Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in root c:\
I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or cahnging
projects.
Now solid !!
It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this so decided
to try so voila !
I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better priority
,don't know....
The essential part is that it works.
Try this.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>copy it to create c:\emu ?
>
>and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever I've
got
>it ;-)
>
>plugins and everything ?
>
>Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>
>Duh-ON
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>
>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead
to
>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder
on
>> c root.
>> c:\xxxx
>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make any
>> difference !!
>> It makes !!
>> DO IT !!
>> Thats for XP of course.
>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74629 is a reply to message #74622] Sun, 22 October 2006 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory, or do
you cut it and paste it to the C:\

Thanks,

Deej

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>
> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in root
c:\
> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or cahnging
> projects.
> Now solid !!
> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this so
decided
> to try so voila !
> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
priority
> ,don't know....
> The essential part is that it works.
> Try this.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
> >copy it to create c:\emu ?
> >
> >and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever I've
> got
> >it ;-)
> >
> >plugins and everything ?
> >
> >Any idea how this prevents crashes?
> >
> >Duh-ON
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:453b7449$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
> >> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead
> to
> >> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder
> on
> >> c root.
> >> c:\xxxx
> >> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make
any
> >> difference !!
> >> It makes !!
> >> DO IT !!
> >> Thats for XP of course.
> >> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74636 is a reply to message #74629] Sun, 22 October 2006 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just stupid!

John

DJ wrote:
> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory, or do
> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in root
> c:\
>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or cahnging
>> projects.
>> Now solid !!
>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this so
> decided
>> to try so voila !
>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
> priority
>> ,don't know....
>> The essential part is that it works.
>> Try this.
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>
>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever I've
>> got
>>> it ;-)
>>>
>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>
>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>
>>> Duh-ON
>>>
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead
>> to
>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder
>> on
>>>> c root.
>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make
> any
>>>> difference !!
>>>> It makes !!
>>>> DO IT !!
>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74638 is a reply to message #74636] Sun, 22 October 2006 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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Hi John,

A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the application
folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of crashes.
I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.

I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else seems
to.

Chuck

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just stupid!
>
>John
>
>DJ wrote:
>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory, or
do
>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in root
>> c:\
>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or cahnging
>>> projects.
>>> Now solid !!
>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this so
>> decided
>>> to try so voila !
>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>> priority
>>> ,don't know....
>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>> Try this.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>
>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever
I've
>>> got
>>>> it ;-)
>>>>
>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>
>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>
>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>
>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead
>>> to
>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder
>>> on
>>>>> c root.
>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make
>> any
>>>>> difference !!
>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74639 is a reply to message #74629] Sun, 22 October 2006 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
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Just move it and make the shortcut from the new destination.
Hours and hours with no crash after exiting and or changing projects.
Love it !
Regards,
Dimitrios

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory, or
do
>you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>
>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in root
>c:\
>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or cahnging
>> projects.
>> Now solid !!
>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this so
>decided
>> to try so voila !
>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>priority
>> ,don't know....
>> The essential part is that it works.
>> Try this.
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>> >copy it to create c:\emu ?
>> >
>> >and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever I've
>> got
>> >it ;-)
>> >
>> >plugins and everything ?
>> >
>> >Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>> >
>> >Duh-ON
>> >
>> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>news:453b7449$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>> >> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may lead
>> to
>> >> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu folder
>> on
>> >> c root.
>> >> c:\xxxx
>> >> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make
>any
>> >> difference !!
>> >> It makes !!
>> >> DO IT !!
>> >> Thats for XP of course.
>> >> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74641 is a reply to message #74638] Sun, 22 October 2006 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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Interesting...wonder why?

D


"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>
> Hi John,
>
> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the
> application
> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of crashes.
> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>
> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else
> seems
> to.
>
> Chuck
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just stupid!
>>
>>John
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory, or
> do
>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in
>>>> root
>>> c:\
>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>> cahnging
>>>> projects.
>>>> Now solid !!
>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this so
>>> decided
>>>> to try so voila !
>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>> priority
>>>> ,don't know....
>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>> Try this.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>
>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever
> I've
>>>> got
>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may
>>>>>> lead
>>>> to
>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu
>>>>>> folder
>>>> on
>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make
>>> any
>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74662 is a reply to message #74641] Mon, 23 October 2006 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the effects subsystem
deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path gets converted
for dos compatibility?

Chuck

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Interesting...wonder why?
>
>D
>
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the
>> application
>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of crashes.
>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>>
>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else

>> seems
>> to.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just stupid!
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory,
or
>> do
>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in

>>>>> root
>>>> c:\
>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>>> cahnging
>>>>> projects.
>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this
so
>>>> decided
>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>>> priority
>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>> Try this.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever
>> I've
>>>>> got
>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may

>>>>>>> lead
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu
>>>>>>> folder
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could make
>>>> any
>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74665 is a reply to message #74662] Mon, 23 October 2006 07:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
Interesting.
So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
So if we install all vst on say:
c:\vst that could help...
I will try :)
Regards,
Dimitrios

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the effects
subsystem
>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path gets converted
>for dos compatibility?
>
>Chuck
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Interesting...wonder why?
>>
>>D
>>
>>
>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the

>>> application
>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of crashes.
>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>>>
>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else
>
>>> seems
>>> to.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just stupid!
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory,
>or
>>> do
>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in
>
>>>>>> root
>>>>> c:\
>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>>>> cahnging
>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this
>so
>>>>> decided
>>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>>>> priority
>>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>>> Try this.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever
>>> I've
>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may
>
>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu

>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could
make
>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74666 is a reply to message #74665] Mon, 23 October 2006 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I don't have problems.Note there
is no space in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS happy.

AA

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453ccc1f$1@linux...
>
> Interesting.
> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
> c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
> So if we install all vst on say:
> c:\vst that could help...
> I will try :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the effects
> subsystem
>>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path gets
>>converted
>>for dos compatibility?
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Interesting...wonder why?
>>>
>>>D
>>>
>>>
>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the
>
>>>> application
>>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of
>>>> crashes.
>>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else
>>
>>>> seems
>>>> to.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just
>>>>>stupid!
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory,
>>or
>>>> do
>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it in
>>
>>>>>>> root
>>>>>> c:\
>>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>>>>> cahnging
>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this
>>so
>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>>>>> priority
>>>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>>>> Try this.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where ever
>>>> I've
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that may
>>
>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu
>
>>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could
> make
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74672 is a reply to message #74666] Mon, 23 October 2006 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as generic.
It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm in the middle of something
and don't really want to mess things up.
Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub system and re-install, or cut
copy the Paris exe and re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward the C:\
or what?
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I don't have problems.Note there

>is no space in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS happy.
>
>AA
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453ccc1f$1@linux...
>>
>> Interesting.
>> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
>> c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
>> So if we install all vst on say:
>> c:\vst that could help...
>> I will try :)
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the effects
>> subsystem
>>>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path gets
>>>converted
>>>for dos compatibility?
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>Interesting...wonder why?
>>>>
>>>>D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the
>>
>>>>> application
>>>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of
>>>>> crashes.
>>>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else
>>>
>>>>> seems
>>>>> to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just

>>>>>>stupid!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files Directory,
>>>or
>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it
in
>>>
>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>> c:\
>>>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>>>>>> cahnging
>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading this
>>>so
>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>>>>>> priority
>>>>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>>>>> Try this.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where
ever
>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that
may
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu
>>
>>>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could
>> make
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74675 is a reply to message #74672] Mon, 23 October 2006 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
I installed up front into C:\Paris22 and C:\Paris3 for each version. I set
all my VST plugs to hit C:\vst. Not sure in your situation what is
appropriate, but feel safe to say a reinstall would do the trick. Copy/Paste
I'm not to sure about that one becuase of the XP subsystem paths.
AA


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:453cf05e$1@linux...
>
> I tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as generic.
> It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm in the middle of
> something
> and don't really want to mess things up.
> Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub system and re-install, or
> cut
> copy the Paris exe and re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward the
> C:\
> or what?
> Rod
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I don't have problems.Note
>>there
>
>>is no space in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS happy.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453ccc1f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Interesting.
>>> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
>>> c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
>>> So if we install all vst on say:
>>> c:\vst that could help...
>>> I will try :)
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the effects
>>> subsystem
>>>>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path gets
>>>>converted
>>>>for dos compatibility?
>>>>
>>>>Chuck
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>Interesting...wonder why?
>>>>>
>>>>>D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from the
>>>
>>>>>> application
>>>>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of
>>>>>> crashes.
>>>>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing else
>>>>
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>>>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just
>
>>>>>>>stupid!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files
>>>>>>>> Directory,
>>>>or
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put it
> in
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>> c:\
>>>>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>>>>>>> cahnging
>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>so
>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>>>>>>> priority
>>>>>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>>>>>> Try this.
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where
> ever
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that
> may
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you emu
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could
>>> make
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74676 is a reply to message #74675] Mon, 23 October 2006 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
Hi,
It doesn't have to do with reinstalling or not.
As Chuck said it may be something with long strings.
So I took it further for smoother plugin work with Paris !!
I reintalled all my VST at:
c:\vst
AND ALL my DX (yes DX) at:
c:\DX
ALSO I put the the content of the Paris folder DIRECTLY at:
c:\
I mean NOT the EMU folder but the content of it !

Paris runs super fast with plugins , even vst plugz not showingh before in
Chainer like waves are shown now although still not working.
I am sure as you will see that there is a big difference.
Not a single crash putting in and out dx plugins while paris running vst
andothers and quitting Paris while in play mode.
NO CRASH.
I encourage you to try after you make a ghost backup just in case.
I would love your input here.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I installed up front into C:\Paris22 and C:\Paris3 for each version. I set

>all my VST plugs to hit C:\vst. Not sure in your situation what is
>appropriate, but feel safe to say a reinstall would do the trick. Copy/Paste

>I'm not to sure about that one becuase of the XP subsystem paths.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:453cf05e$1@linux...
>>
>> I tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as generic.
>> It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm in the middle of
>> something
>> and don't really want to mess things up.
>> Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub system and re-install, or

>> cut
>> copy the Paris exe and re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward the

>> C:\
>> or what?
>> Rod
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I don't have problems.Note

>>>there
>>
>>>is no space in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS happy.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:453ccc1f$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
>>>> c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
>>>> So if we install all vst on say:
>>>> c:\vst that could help...
>>>> I will try :)
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the effects
>>>> subsystem
>>>>>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path gets
>>>>>converted
>>>>>for dos compatibility?
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>Interesting...wonder why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe from
the
>>>>
>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number of
>>>>>>> crashes.
>>>>>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when nothing
else
>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a fresh
>>>>>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's just
>>
>>>>>>>>stupid!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files
>>>>>>>>> Directory,
>>>>>or
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and put
it
>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>>> c:\
>>>>>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by quitting or
>>>>>>>>>> cahnging
>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered reading

>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets better
>>>>>>>>> priority
>>>>>>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>>>>>>> Try this.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or where
>> ever
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects that
>> may
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY you
emu
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this could
>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74722 is a reply to message #74676] Mon, 23 October 2006 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
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Dimitrios,
So you didn't reinstall just moved folders and rewrapped and pointed?
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:453d0178$1@linux...

Hi,
It doesn't have to do with reinstalling or not.
As Chuck said it may be something with long strings.
So I took it further for smoother plugin work with Paris !!
I reintalled all my VST at:
c:\vst
AND ALL my DX (yes DX) at:
c:\DX
ALSO I put the the content of the Paris folder DIRECTLY at:
c:\
I mean NOT the EMU folder but the content of it !

Paris runs super fast with plugins , even vst plugz not showingh =
before in
Chainer like waves are shown now although still not working.
I am sure as you will see that there is a big difference.
Not a single crash putting in and out dx plugins while paris running =
vst
andothers and quitting Paris while in play mode.
NO CRASH.
I encourage you to try after you make a ghost backup just in case.
I would love your input here.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I installed up front into C:\Paris22 and C:\Paris3 for each version. =
I set

>all my VST plugs to hit C:\vst. Not sure in your situation what is=20
>appropriate, but feel safe to say a reinstall would do the trick. =
Copy/Paste

>I'm not to sure about that one becuase of the XP subsystem paths.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message=20
>news:453cf05e$1@linux...
>>
>> I tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as =
generic.
>> It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm in the middle of=20
>> something
>> and don't really want to mess things up.
>> Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub system and =
re-install, or

>> cut
>> copy the Paris exe and re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward =
the

>> C:\
>> or what?
>> Rod
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I don't have =
problems.Note

>>>there
>>
>>>is no space in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS happy.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:453ccc1f$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
>>>> c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
>>>> So if we install all vst on say:
>>>> c:\vst that could help...
>>>> I will try :)
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the =
effects
>>>> subsystem
>>>>>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path =
gets
>>>>>converted
>>>>>for dos compatibility?
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>Interesting...wonder why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message =
news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe =
from
the
>>>>
>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number =
of
>>>>>>> crashes.
>>>>>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp =
driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when =
nothing
else
>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a =
fresh
>>>>>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's =
just
>>
>>>>>>>>stupid!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files=20
>>>>>>>>> Directory,
>>>>>or
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and =
put
it
>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>>> c:\
>>>>>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by =
quitting or
>>>>>>>>>> cahnging
>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>> Now solid !!
>>>>>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered =
reading

>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>>> to try so voila !
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets =
better
>>>>>>>>> priority
>>>>>>>>>> ,don't know....
>>>>>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
>>>>>>>>>> Try this.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or =
where
>> ever
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>> it ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Duh-ON
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read =
it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects =
that
>> may
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY =
you
emu
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> c root.
>>>>>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this =
could
>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as=20
generic.<BR>&gt;&gt; It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm =
in the=20
middle of <BR>&gt;&gt; something<BR>&gt;&gt; and don't really want to =
mess=20
things up.<BR>&gt;&gt; Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub =
system=20
and re-install, or<BR><BR>&gt;&gt; cut<BR>&gt;&gt; copy the Paris exe =
and=20
re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward the<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;=20
C:\<BR>&gt;&gt; or what?<BR>&gt;&gt; Rod<BR>&gt;&gt; "Aaron Allen" =
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I =
don't have=20
problems.Note<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;there<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;is =
no space=20
in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS=20
=
happy.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;AA <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;"=
Dimitrios"=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:453ccc1f$1@linux">news:453ccc1f$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Interesting.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So maybe VST doesn't work that fine =
maybe=20
because it is normally:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; c:\Program=20
files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So if we =
install=20
all vst on say:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; c:\vst that could=20
help...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I will try :)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Regards,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
Dimitrios<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
"chuck duffy" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:c@c.com">c@c.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It probably has=20
something to do with the way some portion of the =
effects<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
subsystem<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;deals with long paths.&nbsp; Have you =
ever=20
seen the way a long path=20
gets<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;converted<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;for dos=20
=
compatibility?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Chuck<BR>&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Don=20
Nafe" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Interesting. ..wonder=20
=
why?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;D<BR>&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"=
chuck=20
duffy" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:c@c.com">c@c.com</A>&gt; wrote in message =
<A=20
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href=3D"news:453bc2a1$1@linux">news:453bc2a1$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Hi =
John,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A=20
long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe=20
from<BR>the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
application<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; folder to the root, and =
starting=20
from there reduces the number of<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
crashes.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I posted this way back when =
we first=20
started using the xp=20
=
driver.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
I have=20
no idea why.&nbsp; It may be stupid, but it works when=20
=
nothing<BR>else<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
seems<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
to.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Chuck<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
John=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;If it needs to be in =
C:\&nbsp; it=20
would make the most sense to do a=20
fresh<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;install there.&nbsp; If it =
needs to=20
be in both locations then it's=20
=
just<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;stupid! <BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;John <BR>&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;DJ=20
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; Do you copy it, leaving =
the=20
original in the Program files <BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; =

Directory,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;or<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
do<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; you cut it and paste it to =
the=20
=
C:\<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;=20
=
Thanks,<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
Deej<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;=20
"Dimitrios" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:453b97a1$1@linux">news:453b97a1$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=2 0
Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and=20
put<BR>it<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
in<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; =

root<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;=20
c:\<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; I had several crashes =
after=20
closing Paris either by quitting=20
or<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
cahnging<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
projects.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; Now solid=20
!!<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; It is not something =
that I=20
discovered, just remembered=20
reading<BR><BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
this<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;so<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; =

decided<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; to try so voila=20
!<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; I don't know why but I =
guess=20
maybe that this way Paris gets =
better<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;=20
priority<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; ,don't=20
know....<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; The essential =
part is=20
that it works.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; Try=20
this.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Regards,<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
Dimitrios<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
"Don Nafe" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; copy it to =
create=20
c:\emu&nbsp;=20
=
?<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or =
where<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
ever<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
I've<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
got<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it=20
=
;-)<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
plugins and everything=20
=
?<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Any idea how this prevents=20
=
crashes?<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;= 20
=
Duh-ON<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
"Dimitrios" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:453b7449$1@linux">news:453b7449$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&a mp;gt;&gt;=20
I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read=20
it.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To avoid =
crashes when=20
closing Paris or changing projects that<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
=
may<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;=20
lead<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
to<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; blue screen =
sometimes=20
due to DX vst plugin loading COPY=20
=
you<BR>emu<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;=20
folder<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=20
on<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; c=20
root.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
c:\xxxx<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I have =
read that=20
some time ago but didn't think that this could<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
make<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;=20
any<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; difference=20
!!<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It makes=20
!!<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; DO IT=20
!!<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thats for XP of =

course.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Now I am a =
happier=20
Pulsarian !<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Regards,<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
Dimitrios<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt=
;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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Re: Paris and crashes you should all know that !! [message #74726 is a reply to message #74722] Tue, 24 October 2006 00:32 Go to previous message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
Dear To,
No reinstalling just for Paris folder moving.
Just move the entire folder content to root c:
I reinstalled though all my vst's to c:\vst and all my DirectX to c:\DX
What I am seeing is a very stable Paris with plugins and no crashes and blue
screens.
I didn't even let the vst or dx installation let make a new folder inside
vst or dx folder just put them all there without subfolders.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>So you didn't reinstall just moved folders and rewrapped and pointed?
>Tom
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:453d0178$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> It doesn't have to do with reinstalling or not.
> As Chuck said it may be something with long strings.
> So I took it further for smoother plugin work with Paris !!
> I reintalled all my VST at:
> c:\vst
> AND ALL my DX (yes DX) at:
> c:\DX
> ALSO I put the the content of the Paris folder DIRECTLY at:
> c:\
> I mean NOT the EMU folder but the content of it !
>
> Paris runs super fast with plugins , even vst plugz not showingh =
>before in
> Chainer like waves are shown now although still not working.
> I am sure as you will see that there is a big difference.
> Not a single crash putting in and out dx plugins while paris running =
>vst
> andothers and quitting Paris while in play mode.
> NO CRASH.
> I encourage you to try after you make a ghost backup just in case.
> I would love your input here.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >I installed up front into C:\Paris22 and C:\Paris3 for each version.
=
>I set
>
> >all my VST plugs to hit C:\vst. Not sure in your situation what is=20
> >appropriate, but feel safe to say a reinstall would do the trick. =
>Copy/Paste
>
> >I'm not to sure about that one becuase of the XP subsystem paths.
> >AA
> >
> >
> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message=20
> >news:453cf05e$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as =
>generic.
> >> It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm in the middle of=20
> >> something
> >> and don't really want to mess things up.
> >> Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub system and =
>re-install, or
>
> >> cut
> >> copy the Paris exe and re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward
=
>the
>
> >> C:\
> >> or what?
> >> Rod
> >> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >>>FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I don't have =
>problems.Note
>
> >>>there
> >>
> >>>is no space in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS happy.
> >>>
> >>>AA
> >>>
> >>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:453ccc1f$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>> Interesting.
> >>>> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine maybe because it is normally:
> >>>> c:\Program files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.
> >>>> So if we install all vst on say:
> >>>> c:\vst that could help...
> >>>> I will try :)
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dimitrios
> >>>>
> >>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It probably has something to do with the way some portion of the
=
>effects
> >>>> subsystem
> >>>>>deals with long paths. Have you ever seen the way a long path =
>gets
> >>>>>converted
> >>>>>for dos compatibility?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Chuck
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>Interesting...wonder why?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>D
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message =
>news:453bc2a1$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi John,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe =
>from
> the
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> application
> >>>>>>> folder to the root, and starting from there reduces the number
=
>of
> >>>>>>> crashes.
> >>>>>>> I posted this way back when we first started using the xp =
>driver.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have no idea why. It may be stupid, but it works when =
>nothing
> else
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> seems
> >>>>>>> to.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chuck
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>If it needs to be in C:\ it would make the most sense to do a
=
>fresh
> >>>>>>>>install there. If it needs to be in both locations then it's
=
>just
> >>
> >>>>>>>>stupid!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving the original in the Program files=20
> >>>>>>>>> Directory,
> >>>>>or
> >>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to the C:\
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Deej
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:453b97a1$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and =
>put
> it
> >> in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> root
> >>>>>>>>> c:\
> >>>>>>>>>> I had several crashes after closing Paris either by =
>quitting or
> >>>>>>>>>> cahnging
> >>>>>>>>>> projects.
> >>>>>>>>>> Now solid !!
> >>>>>>>>>> It is not something that I discovered, just remembered =
>reading
>
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>so
> >>>>>>>>> decided
> >>>>>>>>>> to try so voila !
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't know why but I guess maybe that this way Paris gets
=
>better
> >>>>>>>>> priority
> >>>>>>>>>> ,don't know....
> >>>>>>>>>> The essential part is that it works.
> >>>>>>>>>> Try this.
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> copy it to create c:\emu ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or =
>where
> >> ever
> >>>>>>> I've
> >>>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>>>> it ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> plugins and everything ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how this prevents crashes?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Duh-ON
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:453b7449$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read
=
>it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To avoid crashes when closing Paris or changing projects
=
>that
> >> may
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> lead
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> blue screen sometimes due to DX vst plugin loading COPY =
>you
> emu
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> folder
> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> c root.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> c:\xxxx
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have read that some time ago but didn't think that this
=
>could
> >>>> make
> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>> difference !!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It makes !!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> DO IT !!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of course.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am a happier Pulsarian !
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>=20
> >
> >
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So you didn't reinstall just moved =
>folders and=20
>rewrapped and pointed?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:453d0178$1@linux">news:453d0178$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi,<=
>BR>It=20
> doesn't have to do with reinstalling or not.<BR>As Chuck said it may =
>be=20
> something with long strings.<BR>So I took it further for smoother =
>plugin work=20
> with Paris !!<BR>I reintalled all my VST at:<BR>c:\vst<BR>AND ALL my =
>DX (yes=20
> DX) at:<BR>c:\DX<BR>ALSO I put the the content of the Paris folder =
>DIRECTLY=20
> at:<BR>c:\<BR>I mean NOT the EMU folder but the content of it =
>!<BR><BR>Paris=20
> runs super fast with plugins , even vst plugz not showingh before=20
> in<BR>Chainer like waves are shown now although still not =
>working.<BR>I am=20
> sure as you will see that there is a big difference.<BR>Not a single =
>crash=20
> putting in and out dx plugins while paris running vst<BR>andothers and
=
>
> quitting Paris while in play mode.<BR>NO CRASH.<BR>I encourage you to
=
>try=20
> after you make a ghost backup just in case.<BR>I would love your input
=
>
> here.<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>I installed up front into C:\Paris22 and C:\Paris3 for =
>each=20
> version. I set<BR><BR>>all my VST plugs to hit C:\vst. Not sure in =
>your=20
> situation what is <BR>>appropriate, but feel safe to say a =
>reinstall would=20
> do the trick. Copy/Paste<BR><BR>>I'm not to sure about that one =
>becuase of=20
> the XP subsystem paths.<BR>>AA<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Rod Lincoln" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message =
><BR>>news:453cf05e$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> I=20
> tried cut and copy to C:\ and the paf and ppj icons show up as=20
> generic.<BR>>> It did open for me, but I changed it back as I'm =
>in the=20
> middle of <BR>>> something<BR>>> and don't really want to =
>mess=20
> things up.<BR>>> Should I do an unstall of the app and the sub =
>system=20
> and re-install, or<BR><BR>>> cut<BR>>> copy the Paris exe =
>and=20
> re-install the subsystem, pointing it toward the<BR><BR>>>=20
> C:\<BR>>> or what?<BR>>> Rod<BR>>> "Aaron Allen" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>FWIW my paths are C:\Paris3 and C:\vst and I =
>don't have=20
> problems.Note<BR><BR>>>>there<BR>>><BR>>>>is =
>no space=20
> in my 8.3 friendly naming, straight up DOS=20
> =
>happy.<BR>>>><BR>>>>AA<BR>>>><BR>>>>"=
>Dimitrios"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:453ccc1f$1@linux">news:453ccc1f$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;><BR>>>>>=20
> Interesting.<BR>>>>> So maybe VST doesn't work that fine =
>maybe=20
> because it is normally:<BR>>>>> c:\Program=20
> files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\vst subfolder.<BR>>>>> So if we =
>install=20
> all vst on say:<BR>>>>> c:\vst that could=20
> help...<BR>>>>> I will try :)<BR>>>>>=20
> Regards,<BR>>>>> =
>Dimitrios<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>=20
> "chuck duffy" <<A href=3D"mailto:c@c.com">c@c.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>It probably has=20
> something to do with the way some portion of the =
>effects<BR>>>>>=20
> subsystem<BR>>>>>>deals with long paths.  Have you =
>ever=20
> seen the way a long path=20
> gets<BR>>>>>>converted<BR>>>>>>for dos=20
> =
>compatibility?<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Chuck<BR>&g=
>t;>>>><BR>>>>>>"Don=20
> Nafe" <<A href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>>>>Interesting...wonder=20
> =
>why?<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>D<BR>>>=
>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>"=
>chuck=20
> duffy" <<A href=3D"mailto:c@c.com">c@c.com</A>> wrote in message =
><A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:453bc2a1$1@linux">news:453bc2a1$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=20
> Hi =
>John,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> A=20
> long time ago I noticed that simply copying the paris.exe=20
> from<BR>the<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=20
> application<BR>>>>>>>> folder to the root, and =
>starting=20
> from there reduces the number of<BR>>>>>>>>=20
> crashes.<BR>>>>>>>> I posted this way back when =
>we first=20
> started using the xp=20
> =
>driver.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> =
>I have=20
> no idea why.  It may be stupid, but it works when=20
> =
>nothing<BR>else<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=20
> seems<BR>>>>>>>>=20
> to.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=20
> Chuck<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> =
>John=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>If it needs to be in =
>C:\  it=20
> would make the most sense to do a=20
> fresh<BR>>>>>>>>>install there.  If it =
>needs to=20
> be in both locations then it's=20
> =
>just<BR>>><BR>>>>>>>>>stupid!<BR>>>&g=
>t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>John<BR>>>=
>;>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>DJ=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>> Do you copy it, leaving =
>the=20
> original in the Program files <BR>>>>>>>>>> =
>
> Directory,<BR>>>>>>or<BR>>>>>>>>=20
> do<BR>>>>>>>>>> you cut it and paste it to =
>the=20
> =
>C:\<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
>t;>>=20
> =
>Thanks,<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>=20
> =
>Deej<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&=
>gt;>>=20
> "Dimitrios" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote in message<BR>>>>>>>>>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:453b97a1$1@linux">news:453b97a1$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>>>=20
> Take the folder "Paris Pro" that is inside emu folder and=20
> put<BR>it<BR>>>=20
> in<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> =
>
> root<BR>>>>>>>>>>=20
> c:\<BR>>>>>>>>>>> I had several crashes =
>after=20
> closing Paris either by quitting=20
> or<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> cahnging<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> projects.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Now solid=20
> !!<BR>>>>>>>>>>> It is not something =
>that I=20
> discovered, just remembered=20
> reading<BR><BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> this<BR>>>>>>so<BR>>>>>>>>>> =
>
> decided<BR>>>>>>>>>>> to try so voila=20
> !<BR>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why but I =
>guess=20
> maybe that this way Paris gets =
>better<BR>>>>>>>>>>=20
> priority<BR>>>>>>>>>>> ,don't=20
> know....<BR>>>>>>>>>>> The essential =
>part is=20
> that it works.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Try=20
> this.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> Regards,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> =
>Dimitrios<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
>>>>>>>=20
> "Don Nafe" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> copy it to =
>create=20
> c:\emu =20
> =
>?<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>=20
> and that's the whole folder from c:\programfiles\emu (or =
>where<BR>>>=20
> ever<BR>>>>>>>>=20
> I've<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> got<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> it=20
> =
>;-)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>>=20
> plugins and everything=20
> =
>?<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>=20
> Any idea how this prevents=20
> =
>crashes?<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>=20
> =
>Duh-ON<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
>;>>>>>>>=20
> "Dimitrios" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote in message<BR>>>>>>>>>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:453b7449$1@linux">news:453b7449$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>>>>>=20
> I know I posted bfore but maybe some of you did not read=20
> it.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> To avoid =
>crashes when=20
> closing Paris or changing projects that<BR>>>=20
> =
>may<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>&g=
>t;>=20
> lead<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue screen =
>sometimes=20
> due to DX vst plugin loading COPY=20
> =
>you<BR>emu<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>=
>;>>=20
> folder<BR>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> on<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> c=20
> root.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> c:\xxxx<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have =
>read that=20
> some time ago but didn't think that this could<BR>>>>>=20
> make<BR>>>>>>>>>>=20
> any<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference=20
> !!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes=20
> !!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> DO IT=20
> !!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats for XP of =
>
> course.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am a =
>happier=20
> Pulsarian !<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> Regards,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
> =
>Dimitrios<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>><BR>>=
>;>><BR>>>=20
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