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Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74858] Wed, 25 October 2006 21:18 Go to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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It's a 1.5v AGP mobo. The GEForce card is 3.3v. Now I wonder if the reason
I'm having all of these other problems is because I fried the mobo (and/or
the video cards). would running the cards undervoltage ruin them? this could
explain some other wierdness. I had those 3.3v cards running great in the
Paris mobo for about 3 days before things started going south. CRAP!!!!....I
hope the video cards and the mobo aren't all damaged. I need to take an
electrical engineering course.....I'm gonna get a gimme hat with "dumbass"
in big block letters.

(sigh)

;o}
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74861 is a reply to message #74858] Wed, 25 October 2006 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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This depends on PCI compatibility versions, but...

I was under the impression that all but the very last version of PCI would
accept 3.3v cards and run them at 3.3v. The final version of PCI (2.3???)
doesn't, but 3.3v cards don't fit in it as I recall.

I wouldn't have thought a 3.3v card would even run at 1.5...

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>It's a 1.5v AGP mobo. The GEForce card is 3.3v. Now I wonder if the reason
>I'm having all of these other problems is because I fried the mobo (and/or
>the video cards). would running the cards undervoltage ruin them? this could
>explain some other wierdness. I had those 3.3v cards running great in the
>Paris mobo for about 3 days before things started going south. CRAP!!!!....I
>hope the video cards and the mobo aren't all damaged. I need to take an
>electrical engineering course.....I'm gonna get a gimme hat with "dumbass"
>in big block letters.
>
>(sigh)
>
>;o}
>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74862 is a reply to message #74861] Wed, 25 October 2006 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Can that, you're talking about AGP...

....love has my brain frazzled at the moment. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>This depends on PCI compatibility versions, but...
>
>I was under the impression that all but the very last version of PCI would
>accept 3.3v cards and run them at 3.3v. The final version of PCI (2.3???)
>doesn't, but 3.3v cards don't fit in it as I recall.
>
>I wouldn't have thought a 3.3v card would even run at 1.5...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>It's a 1.5v AGP mobo. The GEForce card is 3.3v. Now I wonder if the reason
>>I'm having all of these other problems is because I fried the mobo (and/or
>>the video cards). would running the cards undervoltage ruin them? this
could
>>explain some other wierdness. I had those 3.3v cards running great in the
>>Paris mobo for about 3 days before things started going south. CRAP!!!!....I
>>hope the video cards and the mobo aren't all damaged. I need to take an
>>electrical engineering course.....I'm gonna get a gimme hat with "dumbass"
>>in big block letters.
>>
>>(sigh)
>>
>>;o}
>>
>>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74863 is a reply to message #74862] Thu, 26 October 2006 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Kim,
Hopefully more than just your brain.
Tom
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45405600$1@linux...


Can that, you're talking about AGP...

...love has my brain frazzled at the moment. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>This depends on PCI compatibility versions, but...
>
>I was under the impression that all but the very last version of PCI =
would
>accept 3.3v cards and run them at 3.3v. The final version of PCI =
(2.3???)
>doesn't, but 3.3v cards don't fit in it as I recall.
>
>I wouldn't have thought a 3.3v card would even run at 1.5...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>It's a 1.5v AGP mobo. The GEForce card is 3.3v. Now I wonder if the =
reason
>>I'm having all of these other problems is because I fried the mobo =
(and/or
>>the video cards). would running the cards undervoltage ruin them? =
this
could
>>explain some other wierdness. I had those 3.3v cards running great =
in the
>>Paris mobo for about 3 days before things started going south. =
CRAP!!!!....I
>>hope the video cards and the mobo aren't all damaged. I need to take =
an
>>electrical engineering course.....I'm gonna get a gimme hat with =
"dumbass"
>>in big block letters.
>>
>>(sigh)
>>
>>;o}
>>
>>
>



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Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74866 is a reply to message #74862] Thu, 26 October 2006 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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Hey.....that's OK...you've given me an idea......now if I can just cram one
of these AGP cards into a PCI slot.....

;o)

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45405600$1@linux...
>
>
> Can that, you're talking about AGP...
>
> ...love has my brain frazzled at the moment. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >This depends on PCI compatibility versions, but...
> >
> >I was under the impression that all but the very last version of PCI
would
> >accept 3.3v cards and run them at 3.3v. The final version of PCI (2.3???)
> >doesn't, but 3.3v cards don't fit in it as I recall.
> >
> >I wouldn't have thought a 3.3v card would even run at 1.5...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
> >
> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >>It's a 1.5v AGP mobo. The GEForce card is 3.3v. Now I wonder if the
reason
> >>I'm having all of these other problems is because I fried the mobo
(and/or
> >>the video cards). would running the cards undervoltage ruin them? this
> could
> >>explain some other wierdness. I had those 3.3v cards running great in
the
> >>Paris mobo for about 3 days before things started going south.
CRAP!!!!....I
> >>hope the video cards and the mobo aren't all damaged. I need to take an
> >>electrical engineering course.....I'm gonna get a gimme hat with
"dumbass"
> >>in big block letters.
> >>
> >>(sigh)
> >>
> >>;o}
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74868 is a reply to message #74866] Thu, 26 October 2006 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4540c227@linux...
> Hey.....that's OK...you've given me an idea......now if I can just cram
> one
> of these AGP cards into a PCI slot.....
>
> ;o)
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45405600$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Can that, you're talking about AGP...
>>
>> ...love has my brain frazzled at the moment. ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >This depends on PCI compatibility versions, but...
>> >
>> >I was under the impression that all but the very last version of PCI
> would
>> >accept 3.3v cards and run them at 3.3v. The final version of PCI
>> >(2.3???)
>> >doesn't, but 3.3v cards don't fit in it as I recall.
>> >
>> >I wouldn't have thought a 3.3v card would even run at 1.5...
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Kim.
>> >
>> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>> >>It's a 1.5v AGP mobo. The GEForce card is 3.3v. Now I wonder if the
> reason
>> >>I'm having all of these other problems is because I fried the mobo
> (and/or
>> >>the video cards). would running the cards undervoltage ruin them? this
>> could
>> >>explain some other wierdness. I had those 3.3v cards running great in
> the
>> >>Paris mobo for about 3 days before things started going south.
> CRAP!!!!....I
>> >>hope the video cards and the mobo aren't all damaged. I need to take an
>> >>electrical engineering course.....I'm gonna get a gimme hat with
> "dumbass"
>> >>in big block letters.
>> >>
>> >>(sigh)
>> >>
>> >>;o}
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74872 is a reply to message #74868] Thu, 26 October 2006 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!

Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!

Tyrone
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74875 is a reply to message #74872] Thu, 26 October 2006 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
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>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!
>
>Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!
>
>Tyrone
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Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74877 is a reply to message #74875] Thu, 26 October 2006 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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;o)....seriously.....do you think I could have damaged the mobo by running a
3.3v card in a 1.5v slot...and/or damaged the video card?

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:4540d2c9$1@linux...
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
> >>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!
> >
> >Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!
> >
> >Tyrone
> >
> >
> >
> This is DJ !!
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74879 is a reply to message #74863] Thu, 26 October 2006 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Kim,
>Hopefully more than just your brain.

....well, one would think, but apparently not in this case...
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74919 is a reply to message #74877] Thu, 26 October 2006 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>;o)....seriously.....do you think I could have damaged the mobo by running
a
>3.3v card in a 1.5v slot...and/or damaged the video card?
>
No.
But anything is possible.
Gene
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74926 is a reply to message #74877] Thu, 26 October 2006 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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Deej, if the 3v cards are pulling their operating voltage from an onboard
regulator IC, it is possible to damage components on the vid card AND the
mobo. When the reg can't get what it wants for V, it tries to up the
voltage which requires more current. The reg IC on the card gets hot while
the mobo gets siphoned for more current than it perhaps can deliver.

MW

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4540d673@linux...
> ;o)....seriously.....do you think I could have damaged the mobo by running
> a
> 3.3v card in a 1.5v slot...and/or damaged the video card?
>
> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:4540d2c9$1@linux...
>>
>> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>> >>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!
>> >
>> >Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!
>> >
>> >Tyrone
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> This is DJ !!
>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74992 is a reply to message #74926] Fri, 27 October 2006 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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Thanks Mark,

The Paris rig appears to be intact. No damage to the mobo. I've got it up
and running again and it's stable so far with the old Matrox G450 cards.

Deej

"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:4541a9a5@linux...
> Deej, if the 3v cards are pulling their operating voltage from an onboard
> regulator IC, it is possible to damage components on the vid card AND the
> mobo. When the reg can't get what it wants for V, it tries to up the
> voltage which requires more current. The reg IC on the card gets hot
while
> the mobo gets siphoned for more current than it perhaps can deliver.
>
> MW
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4540d673@linux...
> > ;o)....seriously.....do you think I could have damaged the mobo by
running
> > a
> > 3.3v card in a 1.5v slot...and/or damaged the video card?
> >
> > "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> > news:4540d2c9$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
> >> >>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!
> >> >
> >> >Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!
> >> >
> >> >Tyrone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> This is DJ !!
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74994 is a reply to message #74992] Fri, 27 October 2006 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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thanks dude, i can sleep now:-)
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4542da29@linux...
> Thanks Mark,
>
> The Paris rig appears to be intact. No damage to the mobo. I've got it up
> and running again and it's stable so far with the old Matrox G450 cards.
>
> Deej
>
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
> news:4541a9a5@linux...
>> Deej, if the 3v cards are pulling their operating voltage from an onboard
>> regulator IC, it is possible to damage components on the vid card AND the
>> mobo. When the reg can't get what it wants for V, it tries to up the
>> voltage which requires more current. The reg IC on the card gets hot
> while
>> the mobo gets siphoned for more current than it perhaps can deliver.
>>
>> MW
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4540d673@linux...
>> > ;o)....seriously.....do you think I could have damaged the mobo by
> running
>> > a
>> > 3.3v card in a 1.5v slot...and/or damaged the video card?
>> >
>> > "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> > news:4540d2c9$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>> >> >>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!
>> >> >
>> >> >Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!
>> >> >
>> >> >Tyrone
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> This is DJ !!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #74996 is a reply to message #74994] Fri, 27 October 2006 23:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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Yeah....me too.

;o)

"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
news:4542dbd1$1@linux...
> thanks dude, i can sleep now:-)
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4542da29@linux...
> > Thanks Mark,
> >
> > The Paris rig appears to be intact. No damage to the mobo. I've got it
up
> > and running again and it's stable so far with the old Matrox G450 cards.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
> > news:4541a9a5@linux...
> >> Deej, if the 3v cards are pulling their operating voltage from an
onboard
> >> regulator IC, it is possible to damage components on the vid card AND
the
> >> mobo. When the reg can't get what it wants for V, it tries to up the
> >> voltage which requires more current. The reg IC on the card gets hot
> > while
> >> the mobo gets siphoned for more current than it perhaps can deliver.
> >>
> >> MW
> >>
> >> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4540d673@linux...
> >> > ;o)....seriously.....do you think I could have damaged the mobo by
> > running
> >> > a
> >> > 3.3v card in a 1.5v slot...and/or damaged the video card?
> >> >
> >> > "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:4540d2c9$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>use the dremel and cut a new slot. works every time!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nah Deej, just pull out the ole trusty the SAWZAL!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Tyrone
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> This is DJ !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Bingo!!!!...figured out why the GEforce 5500 won't work in my Paris rig! [message #75010 is a reply to message #74992] Sat, 28 October 2006 07:52 Go to previous message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Thanks Mark,
>
>The Paris rig appears to be intact. No damage to the mobo. I've got it up
>and running again and it's stable so far with the old Matrox G450 cards.

So now that means you've got a spare video card... why don't
you have your programmer guru buddy write some plugins for it?
After all, EDS, UAD, and maybe even Pulsar - who knows? - are
basically video card architecture.

(just trying to melt Deej's brain with yet another possibility
to consider)

:D
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