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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62373 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:07   |
Tony Benson
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>>>Since that was (if I recall) a 24 track mix that was big and loud and
R&B/rock/gospel
>>>I would think that would argue against this idea. However, it's a little
>>>like the audiophile world sometimes where when the tests seem to disprove
>>>personal experience the test is faulted instead of the experience. That's
>>>fine, ears are very fine instruments and some are just better than others.
>>>
>>>
>>>That said, I now work a good bit of my time in the finance world where
>fortunes
>>>are made and lost according to the certitude of people in their experiences
>>>or mathmatical models. Over time this has lead me to believe more in emperical
>>>results than my experience. So if I do my own blind tests with the Nashville
>>>CD and can't generate statistically significant data that DAWs sound different
>>>then *I* will believe they sound the same. This could mean a flawed test
>>>or flawed ears but that's my belief until someone can present me with
more
>>>convincing data.
>>>
>>>But hey, that's just me. I've also done mixes of 30+ tracks in SX and
think
>>>they sound quite nice.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>>I know that this is an old thread, but I have to disagree with assessments
>>>>on Pro Tools sound quality.
>>>>
>>>>First, I mix with Pro Tools HD at our Church's studio for major release
>>>Gospel
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62374 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:08 |
Don Nafe
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Registered: July 2005
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>>>>Cds. Pro Tools HD sounds wonderful with low and high track counts and
>ITB
>>>>(in the Box) or summed to the SSL,
>>>>
>>>>At my home studio, I have PT LE & Nuendo and while I love Nuendo's elequent
>>>>editing and nice soft sound, it's 32 bit floating mixer in a major pain
>>>in
>>>>!@# to mix aggresive Rock, R &B, Hip hop with. Onthe other hand, those
>>>same
>>>>mixes done in PT LE, have that sparkle and width. In Nuendo, after 30
>tracks,
>>>>things start's getting "smearded" and tracks levels tends to get lost
>or
>>>>they don't sit right.
>>>>
>>>>However, in PT Le, (same songs, tracks are not smeared, levels stay intacked,
>>>>and the overall mix sounds very professional, just like mixes in Paris..
>>>>
>>>>Some local Engineer friends in the area( Motown), have been in discussions
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62376 is a reply to message #62374] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:10 |
Tony Benson
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eer's opinon.
>>>>
>>>>P.S
>>>>Jsut for geekdum sakes, the new Sonar 5 uses a newly coded 64 to 32bit
>>>floating
>>>>point mixer..
>>>>
>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>Yukkk,
>>>>>Don't do it..PT I mean.
>>>>>I've just been playing with PT M-Powered 6.8, using my Delta 1010, and
>>>I
>>>>
>>>>>have to say...I don't like it.
>>>>>The interface is (IMNSHO), horrible, confusing, and convoluted.
>>>>>Moves that come easily in Paris, and more easily in Nuendo, are tiresome
>>>>in
>>>>>PT, apart from the reagon tool...taht has always been good, right from
>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>Session 8 days, but not much else.
>>>>>And..it only plays .MOV video files, which in my case is a no-no, (the
>>>full
>>>>
>>>>>TDM version may play the others but I don't think so).
>>>>>To top it off, playing one of my projects from Nuendo, (reassembled),
>>it
>>>>
>>>>>didn't have the "life" that the original had, by a long shot.
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62387 is a reply to message #62373] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 10:33 |
Pete Ruthenburg
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ion on the DLP.
That's been my experience anyway. Also, watch some action shots on both
units. There should be less blurring with the DLP's. And yes, TV's are
almost like computers now. Obsolete in 12 to 18 months. Another penny and
half for you. ;>)
Tony
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:43bc06ea$1@linux...
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> Tony,thanks for the info.At Best Buy they had a Samsung 42"DLP
> and Sony 42" projection LCD set up next to each other and both my
> wife and I preferred the LCD to the DLP.
> If I bought right now it would probably be some kind of rear
> projection deal.After reading some stuff on Cnet it seems some
> newer technolgy will be out this year and some prices dropping on
> things,but I guess you could always say that.
> Right now I'm wondering if I should hold off for a little bit,
> save a little money and see what happens technology-wise.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Pete,
>>
>>I research this stuff a little bit from time to time. I bought a 42"
>>Plasma
>
>>a couple of years ago. It's been a decent TV, but if I was looking now,
> I'd
>>go with the DLP technology rear projectors. The picture is actually better
>
>>in my and several "TV magazine guru's" opinion, and the technology is very
>
>>sturdy. Also, as Jef said, Plasma and LCD tech is very hard to repair.
>>It's
>
>>more like if it goes bad, plan on replacing it. If you do go with a Plasma
>
>>or LCD, get the extended warranty. If you go somewhere like Best Buy, try
>
>>talking the salesman into discounting the TV by the price of the warranty,
>
>>so you basically end up getting it free. That's what I did. They'll
>>usually
>
>>work with you, because I think they make more commission on selling the
>
>>warranties than the TV's. That's my two cents!
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:43bb5535$1@linux...
>>>
>>> SO we've been using a 27" up
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62394 is a reply to message #62387] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:52 |
Tony Benson
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>>>
>>>>> converters(Apogee,Lucid,Motu,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>RME) mixing Rock , R&B, Hip-Hop is a dificult chore in
>>>>>>>SX/Nuendo..Where
>>>>>>>as mixing in Paris and Pro Tools is not.. Hey,Just one Engineer's
>>>>>>>opinon.
>>>>>>>P.S
>>>>>>>Jsut for geekdum sakes, the new Sonar 5 uses a newly coded 64 to
>>>>>>>32bit
>>>>>
>>>>> floating
>>>>>
>>>>>>>point mixer..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yukkk,
>>>>>>>>Don't do it..PT I mean.
>>>>>>>>I've just been playing with PT M-Powered 6.8, using my Delta 1010,
> and
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have to say...I don't like it.
>>>>>>>>The interface is (IMNSHO), horrible, confusing, and convoluted.
>>>>>>>>Moves that come easily in Paris, and more easily in Nuendo, are
>>>>>>>>tiresome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>PT, apart from the reagon tool...taht has always been good, right
> from
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Session 8 days, but not much else.
>>>>>>>>And..it only plays .MOV video files, which in my case is a no-no,
> (the
>>>>>
>>>>> full
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TDM version may play the others but I don't think so).
>>>>>>>>To top it off, playing one of my projects from Nuendo,
>>>>>>>>(reassembled),
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>didn't have the "life" that the original had, by a long shot.
>>>>>>>>I repeat...don't go there, Jeff......
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:436fce7a$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I just read the doc, thanks for posting the link. Much of it is
>>>>>>>>>quite
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>interesting and just as much is confusing.
>>>>>>>>>I didn't know tdm systems sounded gnarly, never having worked with
>
>>>>>>>>>one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>what track count would they sonically crap out?<
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62407 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 11:48 |
Chris Wargo
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>>>>>>those
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>mixes done in PT LE, have that sparkle and width. In Nuendo, after
>> 30
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tracks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>things start's getting "smearded" and tracks levels tends to get
lost
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>they don't sit right.
>>>>>>>>However, in PT Le, (same songs, tracks are not smeared, levels stay
>>
>>>>>>>>intacked,
>>>>>>>>and the overall mix sounds very professional, just like mixes in
>>>>>>>>Paris..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Some local Engineer friends in the area( Motown), have been in
>>>>>>>>discussions
>>>>>>>>about the state of current DAWs and what's working and what's not.
>>
>>>>>>>>Opinions
>>>>>>>>varied,but the one constant opinion that was stated was how dificult
>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to mix in Cubase and Nuendo on mixes over 30 tracks. No matter what
>> i/o
>>>>>>
>>>>>> converters(Apogee,Lucid,Motu,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>RME) mixing Rock , R&B, Hip-Hop is a dificult chore in
>>>>>>>>SX/Nuendo..Where
>>>>>>>>as mixing in Paris and Pro Tools is not.. Hey,Just one Engineer's
>>>>>>>>opinon.
>>>>>>>>P.S
>>>>>>>>Jsut for geekdum sakes, the new Sonar 5 uses a newly coded 64 to
>>>>>>>>32bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> floating
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>point mixer..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yukkk,
>>>>>>>>>Don't do it..PT I mean.
>>>>>>>>>I've just been playing with PT M-Powered 6.8, using my Delta 1010,
>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have to say...I don't like it.
>>>>>>>>>The interface is (IMNSHO), horrible, confusing, and convoluted.
>>>>>>>>>Moves that come easily in Paris, and more easily in Nuendo, are
>>>>>>>>>tiresome
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>PT, apart from the reagon tool...taht has always been good, right
>> from
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Session 8 days, but not much else.
>>>>>>>>>And..it only
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