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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94787 is a reply to message #94786] |
Wed, 16 January 2008 16:15   |
Dedric Terry
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It does look like a serious winner. Hating that I'll be waing for PC
support, but it
will be worth it. Another really sweet feature is having it auto switch
between
apps depending on what's in focus, and have the custom switchs, setups
follow.
Still curious as to whether the soft switches can be configured into
different sets or
group, to be recalled depending on workflow within a single app (e.g. and
"edit" bank,
a "midi edit" bank, "global" bank, etc) so you aren't limited to 12 custom
key commands and macros.
Dedric
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:478e9661$1@linux...
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> Ok.. I just went over to the Euphonix site, and I saw the new artist
> series
> MC/MC-Mix.. I'm very impressed.
>
> http://euphon221.securesites.net/artist/products/artist_syst ems/overview.php
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> Those early pictures did not do these babies justice. Nice. And, I can
> configue
> thes babies for a very (Cosmetics) nice setup...
> Think BrianT's(Paris setup with the 4 Mec's and screens..
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> I'm actually floored and I'm "eating" my words. Nice Job Euphonix..
>
> A fully confugured setup (4Mix 1-MC) is still cheaper than Digi's C24 AND,
> works with all of the Big DAWS.. Nice work.
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94788 is a reply to message #94787] |
Wed, 16 January 2008 16:22 |
Dedric Terry
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I should have looked through the online walkthrough before my last post - it
gets even better:
12 assignable soft keys below the touch screen
24 soft keys in the screen, configured in pages, customizable for each app.
Nice. Really nice.
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:478ea1d0$1@linux...
> It does look like a serious winner. Hating that I'll be waing for PC
> support, but it
> will be worth it. Another really sweet feature is having it auto switch
> between
> apps depending on what's in focus, and have the custom switchs, setups
> follow.
>
> Still curious as to whether the soft switches can be configured into
> different sets or
> group, to be recalled depending on workflow within a single app (e.g. and
> "edit" bank,
> a "midi edit" bank, "global" bank, etc) so you aren't limited to 12 custom
> key commands and macros.
>
> Dedric
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:478e9661$1@linux...
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>> Ok.. I just went over to the Euphonix site, and I saw the new artist
>> series
>> MC/MC-Mix.. I'm very impressed.
>>
>> http://euphon221.securesites.net/artist/products/artist_syst ems/overview.php
>>
>> Those early pictures did not do these babies justice. Nice. And, I can
>> configue
>> thes babies for a very (Cosmetics) nice setup...
>> Think BrianT's(Paris setup with the 4 Mec's and screens..
>>
>> I'm actually floored and I'm "eating" my words. Nice Job Euphonix..
>>
>> A fully confugured setup (4Mix 1-MC) is still cheaper than Digi's C24
>> AND,
>> works with all of the Big DAWS.. Nice work.
>
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94875 is a reply to message #94799] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 13:07 |
Doug Wellington
Messages: 251
Registered: June 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ, USA
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> I was just thinking about you the other day as this product came closer to
> launch. How is your work going? No need for details, just want you to know
> I'm supportive.
Thanks for the thought. Things are going reasonably well. It took me a
while to get things spec'd out. The big player in the motor fader market is
Penny & Giles, but they want $85 each for their faders, in quantities of
100. Ouch... On the other hand, I can get the Alps fader (same one I think
is used in the Euphonix controller) for about $10 each in quantity. Much
better, even though they're only rated for about 1/10th of the duty cycle of
the P&G. On top of that, I got free samples from Alps to do development
with, and the P&G distributer wanted $100 each!
I've already got a dual 2x40 LCD display with 16 rotary encoders ("endless
knobs") that I designed for the MBmatrixSEQ and MB-808 projects, so I'm
leveraging that design for this. Check out:
http://www.analognotes.com/mbmatrixseq and http://www.analognotes.com/mb808
for the 3D mock ups I did of them. I'm waiting for the metal parts to be
made - as soon as I have all the parts together I'll be able to post real
pictures. I'm also working on wooden cases for the various projects - you
can see some pictures of what I've been doing at:
http://www.synthpanels.com/karma/mb808 I plan to at least make wooden side
panels for this controller. (I've been making all kinds of wood side panels
lately - I even have them for the C-16 if anybody is interested...) ;)
The other part of this project is interfacing with PARIS - I have a serial
port board set up with a microcontroller and an LCD that displays commands
as they are received from the EDS-1000 card. Next step will be to connect
all these different parts together...
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.com
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94880 is a reply to message #94875] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 13:55 |
Jamie K
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Registered: July 2006
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Sounds very cool, Doug!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Doug Wellington wrote:
>> I was just thinking about you the other day as this product came closer to
>> launch. How is your work going? No need for details, just want you to know
>> I'm supportive.
>
> Thanks for the thought. Things are going reasonably well. It took me a
> while to get things spec'd out. The big player in the motor fader market is
> Penny & Giles, but they want $85 each for their faders, in quantities of
> 100. Ouch... On the other hand, I can get the Alps fader (same one I think
> is used in the Euphonix controller) for about $10 each in quantity. Much
> better, even though they're only rated for about 1/10th of the duty cycle of
> the P&G. On top of that, I got free samples from Alps to do development
> with, and the P&G distributer wanted $100 each!
>
> I've already got a dual 2x40 LCD display with 16 rotary encoders ("endless
> knobs") that I designed for the MBmatrixSEQ and MB-808 projects, so I'm
> leveraging that design for this. Check out:
> http://www.analognotes.com/mbmatrixseq and http://www.analognotes.com/mb808
> for the 3D mock ups I did of them. I'm waiting for the metal parts to be
> made - as soon as I have all the parts together I'll be able to post real
> pictures. I'm also working on wooden cases for the various projects - you
> can see some pictures of what I've been doing at:
> http://www.synthpanels.com/karma/mb808 I plan to at least make wooden side
> panels for this controller. (I've been making all kinds of wood side panels
> lately - I even have them for the C-16 if anybody is interested...) ;)
>
> The other part of this project is interfacing with PARIS - I have a serial
> port board set up with a microcontroller and an LCD that displays commands
> as they are received from the EDS-1000 card. Next step will be to connect
> all these different parts together...
>
> Doug
>
>
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94886 is a reply to message #94876] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 16:25 |
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I'm sorry Thad!! :) My Bad
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>I'm a little hurt I wasn't included in the list, but I agree. Nice looking
>stuff.
>
>Yale did 28% last year. After I get my bonus and do my taxes I'll take a
>nice long look at this. I think for me two Mix thingys + one Control would
>be pretty sweet.
>
>TCB
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Ok.. I just went over to the Euphonix site, and I saw the new artist series
>>MC/MC-Mix.. I'm very impressed.
>>
>> http://euphon221.securesites.net/artist/products/artist_syst ems/overview.php
>>
>>Those early pictures did not do these babies justice. Nice. And, I can
configue
>>thes babies for a very (Cosmetics) nice setup...
>>Think BrianT's(Paris setup with the 4 Mec's and screens..
>>
>>I'm actually floored and I'm "eating" my words. Nice Job Euphonix..
>>
>> A fully confugured setup (4Mix 1-MC) is still cheaper than Digi's C24
AND,
>>works with all of the Big DAWS.. Nice work.
>
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94894 is a reply to message #94876] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 15:39 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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Thad - I guess you saw it has support for Live (and Reason and many
others) - pretty cool.
I think we'll all be in love with these things (once PC support arrives for
PC users at least - word is April from a
Euphonix rep). It appears you can use the touch screen to control
channels - including rec arm,
mute/solo, plugins, etc.
I'm also wondering if you can hard assign a fader to, for example, the
master bus
and only bank switch the remaining faders - that would be sweet, and not out
of the question
given Euphonix' attention to flexible functionality.
Regards,
Dedric
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47911ca0$1@linux...
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> I'm a little hurt I wasn't included in the list, but I agree. Nice looking
> stuff.
>
> Yale did 28% last year. After I get my bonus and do my taxes I'll take a
> nice long look at this. I think for me two Mix thingys + one Control would
> be pretty sweet.
>
> TCB
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ok.. I just went over to the Euphonix site, and I saw the new artist
>>series
>>MC/MC-Mix.. I'm very impressed.
>>
>> http://euphon221.securesites.net/artist/products/artist_syst ems/overview.php
>>
>>Those early pictures did not do these babies justice. Nice. And, I can
>>configue
>>thes babies for a very (Cosmetics) nice setup...
>>Think BrianT's(Paris setup with the 4 Mec's and screens..
>>
>>I'm actually floored and I'm "eating" my words. Nice Job Euphonix..
>>
>> A fully confugured setup (4Mix 1-MC) is still cheaper than Digi's C24
>> AND,
>>works with all of the Big DAWS.. Nice work.
>
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94903 is a reply to message #94894] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 18:34 |
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Master fader: That's how Digi's controllers work. Hard assign per session.
Stays put until you tell it somethings different.
Being that the Euphonix folks are way mopre smarter than the Digi folks,
I'm sure they ironed that out..
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Thad - I guess you saw it has support for Live (and Reason and many
>others) - pretty cool.
>
>I think we'll all be in love with these things (once PC support arrives
for
>PC users at least - word is April from a
>Euphonix rep). It appears you can use the touch screen to control
>channels - including rec arm,
>mute/solo, plugins, etc.
>
>I'm also wondering if you can hard assign a fader to, for example, the
>master bus
>and only bank switch the remaining faders - that would be sweet, and not
out
>of the question
>given Euphonix' attention to flexible functionality.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47911ca0$1@linux...
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>> I'm a little hurt I wasn't included in the list, but I agree. Nice looking
>> stuff.
>>
>> Yale did 28% last year. After I get my bonus and do my taxes I'll take
a
>> nice long look at this. I think for me two Mix thingys + one Control would
>> be pretty sweet.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Ok.. I just went over to the Euphonix site, and I saw the new artist
>>>series
>>>MC/MC-Mix.. I'm very impressed.
>>>
>>> http://euphon221.securesites.net/artist/products/artist_syst ems/overview.php
>>>
>>>Those early pictures did not do these babies justice. Nice. And, I can
>>>configue
>>>thes babies for a very (Cosmetics) nice setup...
>>>Think BrianT's(Paris setup with the 4 Mec's and screens..
>>>
>>>I'm actually floored and I'm "eating" my words. Nice Job Euphonix..
>>>
>>> A fully confugured setup (4Mix 1-MC) is still cheaper than Digi's C24
>>> AND,
>>>works with all of the Big DAWS.. Nice work.
>>
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| Re: OK.. Dedric/Gene..Now I'm Impressed... Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #94915 is a reply to message #94894] |
Sat, 19 January 2008 06:35 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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That's my thinking. The four faders on the control are for a couple of groups
and the master fader and then I can bank through with the other sixteen.
Or maybe better yet, the control has the master fader and I select the other
three so I write automation with them (I'm not good enough to write more
than two or maybe three channels simultaneously anyway) and I can bank through
the other sixteen. For me a 32 track project is on the largish side, though
I do use a lot of groups and f/x. But still, if I had the setup I'm thinking
of, 32 tracks, 16 groups, and 16 f/x in Live/SX (that switch with focus on
the app), well, that'd be dreamy.
Here's hoping they get their PC stuff together.
TCB
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Thad - I guess you saw it has support for Live (and Reason and many
>others) - pretty cool.
>
>I think we'll all be in love with these things (once PC support arrives
for
>PC users at least - word is April from a
>Euphonix rep). It appears you can use the touch screen to control
>channels - including rec arm,
>mute/solo, plugins, etc.
>
>I'm also wondering if you can hard assign a fader to, for example, the
>master bus
>and only bank switch the remaining faders - that would be sweet, and not
out
>of the question
>given Euphonix' attention to flexible functionality.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47911ca0$1@linux...
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>> I'm a little hurt I wasn't included in the list, but I agree. Nice looking
>> stuff.
>>
>> Yale did 28% last year. After I get my bonus and do my taxes I'll take
a
>> nice long look at this. I think for me two Mix thingys + one Control would
>> be pretty sweet.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Ok.. I just went over to the Euphonix site, and I saw the new artist
>>>series
>>>MC/MC-Mix.. I'm very impressed.
>>>
>>> http://euphon221.securesites.net/artist/products/artist_syst ems/overview.php
>>>
>>>Those early pictures did not do these babies justice. Nice. And, I can
>>>configue
>>>thes babies for a very (Cosmetics) nice setup...
>>>Think BrianT's(Paris setup with the 4 Mec's and screens..
>>>
>>>I'm actually floored and I'm "eating" my words. Nice Job Euphonix..
>>>
>>> A fully confugured setup (4Mix 1-MC) is still cheaper than Digi's C24
>>> AND,
>>>works with all of the Big DAWS.. Nice work.
>>
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| Re: Paris motor fader control. Was: Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #96508 is a reply to message #96460] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 14:19 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Hey Doug,
Count me in for three when the design is ready.
Paris/Cubase here. Moving faders will be an
unbelievable achievement!
Between Mike Audet (plug developement), Dimitrios
(new techniques & ADC), Kim (this newsgroup) and yourself,
Paris will live on into the next decade with a little help from
another DAW.
Thank you very much!
Tom B.
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47ca7448@linux...
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> Very cool!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
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> Doug Wellington wrote:
>> Just thought I'd send an update for anyone who's interested...
>>
>> I have now received the Alps K series motorized faders - I decided to not
>> use the N model faders that are apparently in the Euphonix surfaces. The
>> K series is much higher quality - there are two rails that the fader
>> slides
>> on - I can see why they are rated at 10x the lifespan! (But 2.5x the
>> price.)
>> Also, the K series is very high performance - it only takes a small
>> pulse
>> to make it travel the full 100mm. (Good problem to have I figure...)
>> I'm
>> upgrading to a faster processor to handle that. In the meantime, I have
>> touch sensors working and am converting fader movement to control
>> messages.
>> For initial testing, I'm leveraging my existing code that only outputs
>> MIDI,
>> but once the basic system is stable, I'll start interacting directly with
>> the EDS card.
>>
>> Doug
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| Re: Paris motor fader control. Was: Euphonix MC /Mix Wow [message #96537 is a reply to message #96508] |
Tue, 04 March 2008 07:41 |
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Motorized faders on my C16's? Able to control other DAWs?
Way cool!
Gantt
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hey Doug,
>Count me in for three when the design is ready.
>Paris/Cubase here. Moving faders will be an
>unbelievable achievement!
>
>Between Mike Audet (plug developement), Dimitrios
>(new techniques & ADC), Kim (this newsgroup) and yourself,
>Paris will live on into the next decade with a little help from
>another DAW.
>
>Thank you very much!
>Tom B.
>
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47ca7448@linux...
>>
>> Very cool!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Doug Wellington wrote:
>>> Just thought I'd send an update for anyone who's interested...
>>>
>>> I have now received the Alps K series motorized faders - I decided to
not
>>> use the N model faders that are apparently in the Euphonix surfaces.
The
>>> K series is much higher quality - there are two rails that the fader
>>> slides
>>> on - I can see why they are rated at 10x the lifespan! (But 2.5x the
>>> price.)
>>> Also, the K series is very high performance - it only takes a small
>>> pulse
>>> to make it travel the full 100mm. (Good problem to have I figure...)
>>> I'm
>>> upgrading to a faster processor to handle that. In the meantime, I have
>>> touch sensors working and am converting fader movement to control
>>> messages.
>>> For initial testing, I'm leveraging my existing code that only outputs
>>> MIDI,
>>> but once the basic system is stable, I'll start interacting directly
with
>>> the EDS card.
>>>
>>> Doug
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>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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