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DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I have
done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not reversable stuff)
of the tracks here already and I would like to be able to save these
multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import to his Pro Tools
HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more. Also I have lots of
plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it would be a PITA to go back
and uninstall.

Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up with
the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but without
calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his system.

I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
off.

Thanks,

Deej
Re: OMF question [message #93670 is a reply to message #93667] Sat, 15 December 2007 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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HI DJ,
Are you trying to just bounce the tracks with effects and edits or
bounce then with edits but no effects?

Chris




DJ wrote:
> I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
> mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I have
> done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not reversable stuff)
> of the tracks here already and I would like to be able to save these
> multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import to his Pro Tools
> HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more. Also I have lots of
> plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it would be a PITA to go back
> and uninstall.
>
> Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up with
> the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but without
> calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his system.
>
> I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
> off.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
Re: OMF question [message #93671 is a reply to message #93670] Sat, 15 December 2007 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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edits..no effects.


"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47648462$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
> Are you trying to just bounce the tracks with effects and edits or bounce
> then with edits but no effects?
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
>> mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I
>> have done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not
>> reversable stuff) of the tracks here already and I would like to be able
>> to save these multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import
>> to his Pro Tools HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more.
>> Also I have lots of plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it
>> would be a PITA to go back and uninstall.
>>
>> Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up
>> with the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but
>> without calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his
>> system.
>>
>> I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
>> off.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
Re: OMF question [message #93674 is a reply to message #93671] Sat, 15 December 2007 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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DJ,

OMF would export tracks with automation, but that's pretty much it - he
would get clips as edited, with short handles (or should at least) and
everything in place ready to mix.

The only caveat is I think a recent version of PT did break some
compatibility with Nuendo (and presumably Cubase as well - Digi.... sigh),
but don't quote me on that - may not be an issue going to Ed's system, or at
all.

It's definitely the most common way to go to/from PT and most other systems.
If there are issues, EDL Convert can actually "filter" an OMF if necessary.
Ed may have it already.

Dedric

On 12/15/07 7:26 PM, in article 47648dc5@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _
dot _ net> wrote:

> edits..no effects.
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:47648462$1@linux...
>> HI DJ,
>> Are you trying to just bounce the tracks with effects and edits or bounce
>> then with edits but no effects?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
>>> mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I
>>> have done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not
>>> reversable stuff) of the tracks here already and I would like to be able
>>> to save these multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import
>>> to his Pro Tools HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more.
>>> Also I have lots of plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it
>>> would be a PITA to go back and uninstall.
>>>
>>> Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up
>>> with the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but
>>> without calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his
>>> system.
>>>
>>> I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>
>
Re: OMF question [message #93675 is a reply to message #93667] Sat, 15 December 2007 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Hi Deej.

I don't think that Cubase/Nuendo will OMF plugins at all, especially if the
receiver doesn't have them, and more especially if the receiver isn't
Steinberg based.

PT will not like the VST's whether it be Mac or PC, although there is a
wrapper that "wraps" VST's to RTAS format.

Best of British, and Merry Christmas to all

Martin Harrington


On 16/12/07 8:21 AM, in article 47644635@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _
dot _ net> wrote:

> I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
> mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I have
> done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not reversable stuff)
> of the tracks here already and I would like to be able to save these
> multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import to his Pro Tools
> HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more. Also I have lots of
> plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it would be a PITA to go back
> and uninstall.
>
> Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up with
> the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but without
> calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his system.
>
> I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
> off.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
Re: OMF question [message #93677 is a reply to message #93667] Sat, 15 December 2007 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMontt  is currently offline  LaMontt   
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Hey DJ, I have that scenario all the time, since I record in NUendo, and Mix
in ProTools.

1) Realtime Bounce using Plugin TapeIt2 http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:TapeIt

Nice..Lets you bounce each track at the same time into a separate folder
with or with fx..

2) Get A Pro Tools M-Powered or LE..Use Teh TaapeIt2 plug in to boouce the
tracks...Then Import into "your new Pro Tools Rig (Lol!) ...Then save Pro
Tools Project.....Burn a DVD of the Pro Tools Project Folder...Give To Ed
...

This is the way to Go.. Forget about OMF, due to what Dedric stated about
Digi's OMF not playing well with everybody..

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final

>mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I
have
>done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not reversable stuff)

>of the tracks here already and I would like to be able to save these
>multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import to his Pro Tools

>HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more. Also I have lots
of
>plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it would be a PITA to go back

>and uninstall.
>
>Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up with

>the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but without

>calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his system.
>
>I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this

>off.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
Re: OMF question [message #93678 is a reply to message #93677] Sat, 15 December 2007 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Well......heck. Thanks LaMont. After hearing the roughs, they are telling me
that they want me to mix it..CRAP!!! ;o( I wanted Ed to mix it so I could
watch, plus, Ed's really the best mixer in these parts and is very connected
to the "biz" and the movers and shakers therein. I think it would behoove
them to hook up with him for a number of reasons. They're coming over
tomorrow so we'll talk some more about it.



"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4764bedd$1@linux...
>
> Hey DJ, I have that scenario all the time, since I record in NUendo, and
> Mix
> in ProTools.
>
> 1) Realtime Bounce using Plugin TapeIt2
> http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:TapeIt
>
> Nice..Lets you bounce each track at the same time into a separate folder
> with or with fx..
>
> 2) Get A Pro Tools M-Powered or LE..Use Teh TaapeIt2 plug in to boouce the
> tracks...Then Import into "your new Pro Tools Rig (Lol!) ...Then save Pro
> Tools Project.....Burn a DVD of the Pro Tools Project Folder...Give To Ed
> ..
>
> This is the way to Go.. Forget about OMF, due to what Dedric stated about
> Digi's OMF not playing well with everybody..
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
>
>>mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed? I
> have
>>done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not reversable
>>stuff)
>
>>of the tracks here already and I would like to be able to save these
>>multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import to his Pro Tools
>
>>HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more. Also I have lots
> of
>>plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it would be a PITA to go
>>back
>
>>and uninstall.
>>
>>Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up with
>
>>the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but without
>
>>calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his system.
>>
>>I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
>
>>off.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>
Re: OMF question [message #93684 is a reply to message #93667] Sun, 16 December 2007 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Graham Duncan is currently offline  Graham Duncan   UNITED STATES
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I would never use OMF. Consolidate your tracks from 0:00 as broadcast
WAV files. They will open properly in any DAW. Just turn off your
effects and you should be fine. Consider this the new 2" tape. ;)

Here are some tips for doing this in most DAWs:
http://www.mixposse.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1146198469

Graham

ps - Please say hello to Ed from a fan (he produced two of the favorite
records of my youth, Living Colour's Vivid and Time's Up). You're not
the only one who would like to be in the room when he mixes! :)
Re: OMF question [message #93690 is a reply to message #93684] Sun, 16 December 2007 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2006
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Hi Graaham,
Yes this is te best way. I think too. It may seem a bit longer to do but
when you realize you can bring it to any daw old or new on any platform
it will be worth it.

Chris



Graham Duncan wrote:
> I would never use OMF. Consolidate your tracks from 0:00 as broadcast
> WAV files. They will open properly in any DAW. Just turn off your
> effects and you should be fine. Consider this the new 2" tape. ;)
>
> Here are some tips for doing this in most DAWs:
> http://www.mixposse.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1146198469
>
> Graham
>
> ps - Please say hello to Ed from a fan (he produced two of the favorite
> records of my youth, Living Colour's Vivid and Time's Up). You're not
> the only one who would like to be in the room when he mixes! :)

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: OMF question [message #93705 is a reply to message #93678] Sun, 16 December 2007 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMontt  is currently offline  LaMontt   
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Registered: January 2007
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Congrats,!! you always under-rate your mixing skills. All of the ones I've
heard are dead on for the Genre you're mixing in..

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Well......heck. Thanks LaMont. After hearing the roughs, they are telling
me
>that they want me to mix it..CRAP!!! ;o( I wanted Ed to mix it so I could

>watch, plus, Ed's really the best mixer in these parts and is very connected

>to the "biz" and the movers and shakers therein. I think it would behoove

>them to hook up with him for a number of reasons. They're coming over
>tomorrow so we'll talk some more about it.
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4764bedd$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey DJ, I have that scenario all the time, since I record in NUendo, and

>> Mix
>> in ProTools.
>>
>> 1) Realtime Bounce using Plugin TapeIt2
>> http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:TapeIt
>>
>> Nice..Lets you bounce each track at the same time into a separate folder
>> with or with fx..
>>
>> 2) Get A Pro Tools M-Powered or LE..Use Teh TaapeIt2 plug in to boouce
the
>> tracks...Then Import into "your new Pro Tools Rig (Lol!) ...Then save
Pro
>> Tools Project.....Burn a DVD of the Pro Tools Project Folder...Give To
Ed
>> ..
>>
>> This is the way to Go.. Forget about OMF, due to what Dedric stated about
>> Digi's OMF not playing well with everybody..
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>I have referred my new wave/punk band friends to Ed Stasium for the final
>>
>>>mix. I mean, who better on earth to mix a project like this than Ed?
I
>> have
>>>done a lot of editing and processing (hard processing, not reversable

>>>stuff)
>>
>>>of the tracks here already and I would like to be able to save these
>>>multitrack project files in a format that Ed could import to his Pro Tools
>>
>>>HD rig. Not all these tracks start at 00:00:00 any more. Also I have lots
>> of
>>>plugins instantianted on the rough mixes that it would be a PITA to go

>>>back
>>
>>>and uninstall.
>>>
>>>Can I use OMF to accomplish this. Would what I deliver to him open up
with
>>
>>>the unprocessed tracks on the timeline with the edits intact but without
>>
>>>calls to instantiate plugins that he doesn't even use on his system.
>>>
>>>I've just never used OMF so I'm trying to find some easy way to pull this
>>
>>>off.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: OMF question [message #93712 is a reply to message #93705] Sun, 16 December 2007 22:38 Go to previous message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4765f4ab$1@linux...
>
> Congrats,!! you always under-rate your mixing skills. All of the ones I've
> heard are dead on for the Genre you're mixing in..
>

Thanks LaMont,

We met today and did some vocal overdubs. They definitely want to finish the
production here so that's what we're going to do. I had sent them a couple
of the MP3's to see if they liked the direcion I was taking this. I was
sorta' horrified when Tracy (the singer) told me that she liked them so much
that she posted one of them to their website. ;oO

When comparing them, my mix does sound a bit different than the ones they
had up there, though it's still pretty rough. The "Boys and Toys" cut on
their site is the rough I sent them.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewpro file&friendid=97869283

Maybe I can help these guys get some gigs. I hope so. I like them a lot
personally. Very nice folks.

;o)
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