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Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64027] Tue, 31 January 2006 18:24 Go to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.

Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
get the external drive?

Pete
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64028 is a reply to message #64027] Tue, 31 January 2006 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.

You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.

I use one every day.

DC



"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>
>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>get the external drive?
>
>Pete
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64052 is a reply to message #64028] Wed, 01 February 2006 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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I picked u a Seagate USB-2 external drive recently, and have
done a couple songs using it already... streams audio well -
although these aren't huge projects - so I can't say what it's
track-count tolerance would be yet.

Dunno if that helps... I'd imagine it's the same as their
Firewire drive except just with a different interface that's
about 20% faster (unless you're talking about FW-2, which is,
IIRC, 800 MBPS vs. FW-1 at 400, & USB-2 @ 480).

Neil

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.
>
>You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.
>
>I use one every day.
>
>DC
>
>
>
>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>
>>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>>get the external drive?
>>
>>Pete
>
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64054 is a reply to message #64052] Wed, 01 February 2006 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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Hi Neil,

Mine has both USB2 and FW. Oddly enough the FW is still faster.

I know the spec sez that the USB2 is slightly quicker, but in real
life it ain't so. I copied a couple of large files and the FW side
was about 30% faster than the USB2. odd... Yes the computer
and the hub were both USB2.

A video editor friend told me about this, and he was right.

DC


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I picked u a Seagate USB-2 external drive recently, and have
>done a couple songs using it already... streams audio well -
>although these aren't huge projects - so I can't say what it's
>track-count tolerance would be yet.
>
>Dunno if that helps... I'd imagine it's the same as their
>Firewire drive except just with a different interface that's
>about 20% faster (unless you're talking about FW-2, which is,
>IIRC, 800 MBPS vs. FW-1 at 400, & USB-2 @ 480).
>
>Neil
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.
>>
>>You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.
>>
>>I use one every day.
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>
>>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>>>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>>>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>>
>>>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>>>get the external drive?
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64059 is a reply to message #64054] Wed, 01 February 2006 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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I've heard that also. The USB 2 spec is a little faster, but real world is a
little slower.

Tony


"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:43e0da79$1@linux...
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Mine has both USB2 and FW. Oddly enough the FW is still faster.
>
> I know the spec sez that the USB2 is slightly quicker, but in real
> life it ain't so. I copied a couple of large files and the FW side
> was about 30% faster than the USB2. odd... Yes the computer
> and the hub were both USB2.
>
> A video editor friend told me about this, and he was right.
>
> DC
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I picked u a Seagate USB-2 external drive recently, and have
>>done a couple songs using it already... streams audio well -
>>although these aren't huge projects - so I can't say what it's
>>track-count tolerance would be yet.
>>
>>Dunno if that helps... I'd imagine it's the same as their
>>Firewire drive except just with a different interface that's
>>about 20% faster (unless you're talking about FW-2, which is,
>>IIRC, 800 MBPS vs. FW-1 at 400, & USB-2 @ 480).
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.
>>>
>>>You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.
>>>
>>>I use one every day.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>>>>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>>>>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>>>
>>>>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>>>>get the external drive?
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64060 is a reply to message #64054] Wed, 01 February 2006 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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Thanks DC,good to know.I was wondering if usb2 would be just as
good or better.Circuit City has the 200GB usb/firewire Seagates
at $129 with rebates now.I think I'll pick up 1 or 2.

Thanks,
Pete

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>Mine has both USB2 and FW. Oddly enough the FW is still faster.
>
>I know the spec sez that the USB2 is slightly quicker, but in real
>life it ain't so. I copied a couple of large files and the FW side
>was about 30% faster than the USB2. odd... Yes the computer
>and the hub were both USB2.
>
>A video editor friend told me about this, and he was right.
>
>DC
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I picked u a Seagate USB-2 external drive recently, and have
>>done a couple songs using it already... streams audio well -
>>although these aren't huge projects - so I can't say what it's
>>track-count tolerance would be yet.
>>
>>Dunno if that helps... I'd imagine it's the same as their
>>Firewire drive except just with a different interface that's
>>about 20% faster (unless you're talking about FW-2, which is,
>>IIRC, 800 MBPS vs. FW-1 at 400, & USB-2 @ 480).
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.
>>>
>>>You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.
>>>
>>>I use one every day.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>>>>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>>>>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>>>
>>>>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>>>>get the external drive?
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64061 is a reply to message #64027] Wed, 01 February 2006 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
I just went with an internal Seagate after receiving two DOA Western
Digitals. No problems and the drives are performing well. You might want to
check to make sure the Seagate Firewire uses the Oxford 911 chip set.
Historically it's been the preferred chip set, but it might not make as much
of a difference now and days. I have had good luck and saved a bit of money
"rolling" my own Firewire drives. Newegg has a 250 Gig Seagate SATA for
around $100.00 bucks, and I've recently seen external Firewire cases with
Oxford 911 for around $40.00. they're simple to put together. My two cents.

Tony


"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:43e00de7$1@linux...
>
> So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
> like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
> the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>
> Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
> get the external drive?
>
> Pete
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64062 is a reply to message #64060] Wed, 01 February 2006 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Sounds like a good deal.

Tony

"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:43e0e3a2$1@linux...
>
> Thanks DC,good to know.I was wondering if usb2 would be just as
> good or better.Circuit City has the 200GB usb/firewire Seagates
> at $129 with rebates now.I think I'll pick up 1 or 2.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Neil,
>>
>>Mine has both USB2 and FW. Oddly enough the FW is still faster.
>>
>>I know the spec sez that the USB2 is slightly quicker, but in real
>>life it ain't so. I copied a couple of large files and the FW side
>>was about 30% faster than the USB2. odd... Yes the computer
>>and the hub were both USB2.
>>
>>A video editor friend told me about this, and he was right.
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I picked u a Seagate USB-2 external drive recently, and have
>>>done a couple songs using it already... streams audio well -
>>>although these aren't huge projects - so I can't say what it's
>>>track-count tolerance would be yet.
>>>
>>>Dunno if that helps... I'd imagine it's the same as their
>>>Firewire drive except just with a different interface that's
>>>about 20% faster (unless you're talking about FW-2, which is,
>>>IIRC, 800 MBPS vs. FW-1 at 400, & USB-2 @ 480).
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.
>>>>
>>>>You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.
>>>>
>>>>I use one every day.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>>>>>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>>>>>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>>>>
>>>>>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>>>>>get the external drive?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64063 is a reply to message #64061] Wed, 01 February 2006 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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Thanks Tony.Just checked with Seagate and they said they use the
oxford 911;good to know.

Pete

"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>I just went with an internal Seagate after receiving two DOA Western
>Digitals. No problems and the drives are performing well. You might want
to
>check to make sure the Seagate Firewire uses the Oxford 911 chip set.
>Historically it's been the preferred chip set, but it might not make as
much
>of a difference now and days. I have had good luck and saved a bit of money

>"rolling" my own Firewire drives. Newegg has a 250 Gig Seagate SATA for

>around $100.00 bucks, and I've recently seen external Firewire cases with

>Oxford 911 for around $40.00. they're simple to put together. My two cents.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:43e00de7$1@linux...
>>
>> So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>> like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>> the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>
>> Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>> get the external drive?
>>
>> Pete
>
>
Re: Seagate firewire drives-anyone using? [message #64086 is a reply to message #64054] Wed, 01 February 2006 18:47 Go to previous message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>Mine has both USB2 and FW. Oddly enough the FW is still faster.

Interesting... the one I have is USB-2 only, so I can't really
compare.... good info to know, though!

Neil


>I know the spec sez that the USB2 is slightly quicker, but in real
>life it ain't so. I copied a couple of large files and the FW side
>was about 30% faster than the USB2. odd... Yes the computer
>and the hub were both USB2.
>
>A video editor friend told me about this, and he was right.
>
>DC
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I picked u a Seagate USB-2 external drive recently, and have
>>done a couple songs using it already... streams audio well -
>>although these aren't huge projects - so I can't say what it's
>>track-count tolerance would be yet.
>>
>>Dunno if that helps... I'd imagine it's the same as their
>>Firewire drive except just with a different interface that's
>>about 20% faster (unless you're talking about FW-2, which is,
>>IIRC, 800 MBPS vs. FW-1 at 400, & USB-2 @ 480).
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Get the complete external drive. Very nice, very reliable.
>>>
>>>You don't need to put drives in enclosures any more.
>>>
>>>I use one every day.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pete" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>So I need a firwire drive and see that alot of people seem to
>>>>like Seagate right now.I see that their external drives only have
>>>>the 1 year warranty compared to the 5 year on internal drives.
>>>>
>>>>Should I buy a firewire enclosure then put the Seagate in or just
>>>>get the external drive?
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>
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