The PARIS Forums


Home » The PARIS Forums » PARIS: Main » Pin the Tail on the donkey
Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61193] Sun, 11 December 2005 16:48 Go to next message
Morgan is currently offline  Morgan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 133
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
a number of years. Mostly lurking and had various usernames... anyway,
my question was mainly about the products from risercardshop.com. I was
hoping someone was familiar with their products. Yes, I am only using one
EDS card. My last resource is to either pay the ridiculous price for an external
PCI box or buy a hand tool metal cutter and cut out a hole for the one card.
Since you are familiar with the case, and you agree that tearing out internal
drive bay woul
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61204 is a reply to message #61193] Mon, 12 December 2005 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
the ridiculous price for an
external
> PCI box or buy a hand tool metal cutter and cut out a hole for the one
card.
> Since you are familiar with the case, and you agree that tearing out
internal
> drive bay would be difficult, I think the better option would be to cut a
> hole for the EDS card. I suppose no one found a cheaper external PCI box.
> I searched through here and I see DJ stated that the Magma boxes work
well
> with the EDS card. At $1400 a pop, it's had to justify. Oh well... time
> to rethink things.... thanks...
>
> &
Mic Challenge Answers [message #61216 is a reply to message #61204] Mon, 12 December 2005 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Morgan is currently offline  Morgan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 133
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
fairly brief,
think this would work?

So wiht a tone it is safe to adjust them? is there anything wrong such as
sound degredation with turning em down otherwise? I'd ratehr not have to
always go into a compresor to turn the gain down. I also want to be able
to push the pres a bit more.

Again, thanks



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Don't touch them. They are continuously rotating. You cannot just turn them
>to a stopping point and thne back them off a certain amount. You will need
>to feed them a test tone.
>
>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:439dbc74$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I am finding that with my BAE and OSA pres the sigal is way too hot into
>> Paris.
>> What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in? is there a problem
>with
>> just tuning em way down? Are they detended? I dontl want to touch em ti
>find
>> out.
>> Should I run a tone trough em and even em all out?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> C
>
>wwwwWOW. ;oS

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: Mic Challenge Answers [message #61219 is a reply to message #61216] Mon, 12 December 2005 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
">439dd4da@linux...
> http://theaudiocave.com/flex1.wmv
>
>You will need to feed them a tone that can be adjusted from the device
wsending the tone so that you can calibrate the Paris channel level to the
dB level that is feeding the Paris A/D converter. If you are feeding the
converter a -10dBu signal you can then adjust the trim screw until the level
reads -10 on the channel meter. There may be a little fudging going on with
the software in favor of keeping the signal around 2-3dB below *actual*
decibel input....but I wouldn't know this for sure. IU would suggest feeding
it a constant test tone from an external device.

Deej

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:439dd812$1@linux...
>
> Thanks DJ.
> Oh, I have a tone CD that is for ear training but the tones are fairly
brief,
> think this would work?
>
> So wiht a tone it is safe to adjust them? is there anything wrong such as
> sound degredation with turning em down otherwise? I'd ratehr not have to
> always go into a compresor to turn the gain down. I also want to be able
> to push the pres a bit more.
>
> Again, thanks
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Don't touch them. They are continuously rotating. You cannot just turn
them
> >to a stopping point and thne back them off a certain amount. You will
need
> >to feed them a test tone.
> >
> >"cujo" <
Re: Mic Challenge Answers [message #61236 is a reply to message #61219] Mon, 12 December 2005 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Morgan is currently offline  Morgan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 133
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
r /> >>>>>
>>>>>>>to a stopping point and thne back them off a certain amount. You will
>>>>>
>>>>>need
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to feed them a test tone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:439dbc74$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am finding that with my BAE and OSA pres the sigal is way too
>>
>> hot
>>
>>>>>into
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Paris.
>>>>>>>>What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in? is there a
>>>
>>>problem
>>>
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just tuning em way down? Are they detended? I dontl want to touch
>>
>> em
>>
>>>>ti
>>>>
>>>>>>>find
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>Should I run a tone trough em and even em all out?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Um, can I have a 47 instead?





Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>Hi John,
>You have just won the Dual Chrome reverse,
>Polyphase Hyperbolating anti-wobbling,
>smoke shifting piston return spring.
>
>In addition - you also get the most outrageous
>audio device ever conceived by man or woman !
>The Rane PI 14 !!
>http://www.rane.com/pi14.html
>
>I find this combo absolutely astonishing when playing ,
>House of the rising smoke on the stairway to freebird :)
>
>< G >
>Morgan
>
>
>
>
>
>John wrote:
>> What did I win?
>>
>> Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings ,
>>> Here is the Answer Key<
Re: Mic Challenge Answers [message #61238 is a reply to message #61236] Mon, 12 December 2005 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cujjo is currently offline  Cujjo   
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
en they sell their 32 bit Magma's cheap. I got my 13 slot Magma
>there for $250.00.
>
>Deej
>
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:439d6a33@linux...
>>
>> Hi Kim. You probably don't remember me too well, but I been around on
here
>> for a number of years. Mostly lurking and had various usernames... anyway,
>> my question was mainly about the products from risercardshop.com. I was
>> hoping someone was familiar with their products. Yes, I am only using
one
>> EDS card. My last resource is to either pay the ridiculous price for an
>external
>> PCI box or buy a hand tool metal cutter and cut out a hole for the one
>card.
>> Since you are familiar with the case, and you agree that tearing out
>internal
>> drive bay would be difficult, I think the better option would be to cut
a
>> hole for the EDS card. I suppose no one found a cheaper external PCI
box.
>> I searched through here and I see DJ stated that the Magma boxes work
>well
>> with the EDS card. At $1400 a pop, it's had to justify. Oh well... time
>> to rethink things.... thanks...
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Ahh, Deja Vu.
>> >Yep, I too bought the Sonata, and it ended up being the case for
>> >my Cubase box.
>> >I toyed with the idea of ripping out the lower drive bays, so I could
fit
>> >my EDS's (4 of them), but in the end it was all too hard.
>> >Rip out the power supply and stick it in your existing box.
>> >(Antec supplies are quiet.) I doubt whether you'd notice the noise
>difference.
>> >With one EDS card, I'm sure heat build-up won't be an issue,
>> >so don't even worry about the 5 1/4" case fan.
>> >Good Luck.
>> >Kim
>> >
>> >
>> >"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Hey all. I little while back my paris computer failed. I bought a new
>motherboard,
>> >>CPU and memory (Pent 4). After getting all back together, I noticed
that
>> >>my computer was louder! So I researched and read some good reviews on
>teh
>> >>Antec Sonata. I bought one and anxiously transferred everything to the
>> new
>> >>case. Got to the last component, the Paris EDS card and guess what?
Yep,
>> >>it don't fit. Sheesh! There is an open area on the case's bottom slot
>> >to
>> >>allow the card, but my motherboard (Epox) is a small factor and only
has
>> >>3 PCI slots and it don't go down that far.
>> >
Re: Mic Challenge Answers [message #61239 is a reply to message #61236] Mon, 12 December 2005 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
;>
>> >>Now I really love this case. It IS very quiet and I like how components
>> >are
>> >>installed easily. Internal drives are installed with rubber washers,
>etc.
>> >> So I want to definately keep this case... especially since I paid
>almost
>> >>a hundred for it!
>> >>
>> >>My options: As most of you know there are a few external PCI boxes
that
>> >>allow using PCI cards. But they are so expensive. I scratch my head
why
>> >>they would charge double the cost of a bare bones computer for this...
>>
>> >Anyway,
>> >>perhaps I found another alternative. As I stated, the EDS card would
>fit
>> >>in the bottom case lot, but wouldn't go into a motherboard PCI slot.
I
>> >found
>> >>a company that sells PCI extenders. I wrote to them and STILL waiting
>> for
>> >>their reply, but is anyone familiar with these products?
>> >>
>>
>>> http://www.risercardshop.com/items~CartId~%7B35EED1B9-E142-4 35C-8CFB-B4EVE
>REST819EF82CC5%7D~Cc~PCI32~iTpStatus~0~Tp~~Bc~.asp
>> >>
>> >>I want to mount the EDS card in my case's bottom slot and perhaps use
>one
>> >>of these items to extend from the motherboard. Will this work or has
>anyone
>> >>tried this? I believe I need a certain voltage too. Anyone know what
>> voltage
>> >>the EDS card is? Or has anyone found an alternative to the PCI
>external?
>> >> Thanks... ~ Ed
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>Here are some great pictures of the P150 case and all kinds of info, check
it out.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page1.html

Here is the page with the hard drive mounts, it's kind of like a shock mount
for a microphone. This will give all of us some ideas. As you can see,
it looks like you could put full size PCI cards in the case with out modification,
but you might lose some hard drive spaces??? I guess you could modify the
case to your needs.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page4.html

Looks like my next case.

James


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Antec P160 case is quiet like the Sonata case, but it will take full
size
>PCI cards. I think the P 180 and maybe the P150 will also take full size
>PCI cards. Check them out and do a little research.
>
>http://www.antec.com/us/pro_en_performanc
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61261 is a reply to message #61204] Tue, 13 December 2005 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
was heard. Gone
>was the idea of having some nice cruisy spaced out bands to fill the later
>part of Saturday afternoon, and then upping the pace as the night came about.
>Saturday afternoon sounded much like Saturday midday, which sounded much
>like Sunday afternoon, which sounded pretty similar to 9pm Friday night,
>which bore a striking resemblence to Sunday morning, which, in turn, sounded
>much like Saturday night. There was no weird unexpected acts breaking up
>the program. Well, there was Architecture in Helsinki on Saturday arvo who
>at least had brass, but certainly maintained a mid paced rock element. Overall
>variation was hard to find.
>
>But perhaps, in part, this is because I'm changing and moving on in my tastes.
>I got home and, after a shower and a moment in a "real" toilet
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61271 is a reply to message #61261] Tue, 13 December 2005 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
...
> ahhhh, much better, but now my hair is caught in the trackball
>
> rick wrote:
> > you have to put the mouse up to your ear...silly.

............you still have hair?They do sound nice, don't they? Funny, the C460B's got a bad rap years ago
because some of the units exhibited distortion in the head amp and required
a mod to fix it. Jim Williams does a pretty well known mod to these mics
that is supposed to help them along. I never heard a problem with mine
(purchased in 1997) and I like whatever it is that the circuitry imparts to
a source, though it may be that there is a little harmonic
distortion........it doesn't seem to impart anything nasty, at least with
the units I have here. The C460B's were discontinued.. The newer incarnation
is the C480. The capsule is a cardioid capsule labelled CK1.


"Brandon" <Mymyandmyown@sha.com> wrote in message news:439f6c7a$1@linu
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61275 is a reply to message #61271] Tue, 13 December 2005 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
ing to look forward to before christmas
>> to kick off the festivities. You come away from the festival and go "Gee,
>> I forgot, it's almost Christmas!"
>>
>> Maybe I'll go one more time, just in case it was a one off...
>>
>> I suspect the truth is though that I'm just over rock. Pity. Rock and
I
>had
&g
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61293 is a reply to message #61275] Wed, 14 December 2005 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
successfuly put the mics in order
>>so far .
>>Listen to the files and guess which one is the
>>Holy grail of mics - the U47 :)
>>
>> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Morgan%20Pettinato/Mic%20Con test/
>>
>>Good Luck - Prizes will still stand !
>>info on my previous post ( Listening challenge @ the File vault )
>>
>>Morgan
>>
>Hi, all.
All this talk of the Rane PI14 reminded me of an April fool's joke review
that I actually fell for in the early 80
Re: Mic Challenge Answers [message #61294 is a reply to message #61239] Wed, 14 December 2005 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
's. (hell... I was young, and this
was around the time when the development of
digital sampling, and synths in general, was progressing in leaps and bounds).
I think it was "Electronic Musician", that reviewed the cumbersome looking
machine, which could tap into your brain, (via electrodes, I think,) and
could produce an approximation of any
sound you could be imagining at the time.
Alas, I loaned my copy of the mag to someone, and never saw
it again.
Regards,
KimJohn <no@no.com> wrote:
>so basically you guys are saying EDS effects are craptastic? It's like

>the closer we look the more warts there are. hmm
>
>RK wrote:
>> Thank you sir, may I have 'another'! So many undocumented 'features'
there
>> should be a document to feature them. Speaking of document, sweet job
on
>> the DVD with the Tank.
>>
>> Happy compensating.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kent
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:439fa41a$1@linux...
>>> Glad to help man - I'm a stereo field JUNKIE and noticed this almost
>>> immediately upon using paris at my place. Room verb is 'real' heavy to
one
>>> side I've found and some of the plugs that were in development also had
>> this
>>> issue. I am not sure why that is, but it definitely is at my place. I
>>> typically end up panning up the verb return to compensate. After a while
>> you
>>> just get used to it and use things to offset the lopsided signal, even
>> using
>>> it to your advantage in certain situations. I have not noted anything
like
>>> this in the VST/DX area, just EDS.
>>> Another undocumented Paris 'feature', perhaps?
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:439f8e4e@linux...
>>>> Whoa, no shit! EDS Compress Opto has a "pan-fried" mind of it's own.
>>>> Even
>>>> when bypassed, it weighs left, but if recorded without and EDS, it's
>> right
>>>> up the center. Thanks a bunch for the help. And it's good to be back.
>>>> Happy Holidays.
>>>>
>>>> Kent
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:439f5a2d$1@linux...
>>>>> It's probably an EDS effect. Bypass 'em all, I've noted that some are
>>>> heavy
>>>>> to one side.
>>>>> That get it?
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:439f0b0e@linux...
>>>>>> With all pans set to center (fader, aux, master, global) I still get
>> a
>>>>>> heavier signal to the left side
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey [message #61295 is a reply to message #61193] Wed, 14 December 2005 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no is currently offline  no
Messages: 40
Registered: January 2008
Member
. Haven't worked in Paris for awhile
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> don't remember that being the case before. Thanks for any comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>To me, it's about the lack of songwriting skills and talent. I am
amazed at the crap that never should have seen the light of day that gets
released simply because there isn't anything better.

Some of us concentrate on instrumental chops, others on using
interesting sounds in clever ways, others on getting things perfect,
others on what's hip and where the scene is headed, and it's all
bollocks. It's about the song, and there is no substitute.

For every 10, 000 hot players and hip producers there is one
great songwriter.

We rarely see artists today who can put out a whole disc of great
writing, but a k
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61298 is a reply to message #61295] Wed, 14 December 2005 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
y
>>>>> to one side.
>>>>> That get it?
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:439f0b0e@linux...
>>>>>> With all pans set to center (fader, aux, master, global) I still get
>> a
>>>>>> heavier signal to the left side. Haven't worked in Paris for awhile
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> don't remember that being the case before. Thanks for any comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yip,
hey where have you been?
Give me a call!

"Phil Aiken" <paiken@partners.org> wrote:
>
>Chris - Are your ins set to +4?
>
>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
&
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61304 is a reply to message #61298] Wed, 14 December 2005 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
on a PTHD system, and burned me this
>>disk
>>>> of
>>>> >the final mixes. There are no file extensions. I asked for wavs,
so
>>I
>>>> >tried adding .wav, and all the other obvious extensions, to the files
>>to
>>>> try
>>>> >to open them either in Wavelab or Sound Forge. No luck, yet. Any
>>>> >ideas????.... Anyone???.....
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks for any light you might shine,
>>>> >
>>>> >CL
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Hmmm, coud you describe that "motorboating" sound? I sometimes get a " the
langoliers are coming" sound from my tube mice.


"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>No.
>They are standard Mogami edition mics, from two different batches, about
>nine months apart.
>The second one I bought had a bit of very low level "motorboating"
>noise, (not major), which I cured by changing the valve.
>I didn't expect much when I bought the first one, but when I heard it, I
>just had to get a second one.
>Kim
>
>
>
>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Kim, are your MXL's modded?
>>
>>
>
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61305 is a reply to message #61304] Wed, 14 December 2005 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>S
>
>orry guys, just realised the mic I was referring to was a U67.
>>>I take it back.... Never tried a U47.
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.asswipe> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Ahh, the U47.
>>>>I love the sound of it as much as I love the sound of my two MXL v69's.
>>>>After spending some time over the space of a week A/Bing the two mics,
>>with
>>>>a variety of sources, I really wanted to hate the V69, but I couldn't.
>>
>>>>The two sounded sooo similar, but the V69 was quieter.
>>>>My Rode Classic II wasn't in the league.
>>>>....Ouch.... watch the flames begin....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>>>>>Greetings ,
>>>>>
>>>>>Since no one has successfuly put the mics in order
>>>>>so far .
>>>>>Listen to the files and guess which one is the
>>>>>Holy grail of mics - the U47 :)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Morgan%20Pettinato/Mic%20Con test/
>>>>>
>>>>>Good Luck - Prizes will still stand !
>>>>>info on my previous post ( Listening challenge @ the File vault )
>>>>>
>>>>>Morgan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>Hi, Cujo.
Actually, my terminology (motorboating)is probably wrong.
The noise I had was almost like filtered pink noise. (not much above, say
500hz), but a constant background rumble of no fixed pitch.
Kim


"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hmmm, coud you describe that "motorboating" so
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61308 is a reply to message #61305] Wed, 14 December 2005 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good Luck - Prizes will still stand !
>>>>>>>info on my previous post ( Listening challenge @ the File vault )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Morgan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>Be careful who you get in your studio.

This happened here in Boston last night

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shooting.reut/index. htmlSure did, it fixed it.
Not saying that it will work for you, but worth a shot IMO.
You could also use the opportunity to experiment with different
valves for different sounds (brighter/darker).
I wouldn't go as far as spending a mint on NOS Telefunkens, though, I have
read that even those were subject to quality variation, and thus are just
as prone to sounding like poop
as any other manufacturer.
I bought a few Mullards from Britain (a couple of spares), and the one I
used
didn't change the character appreciably, so the two mics still sound
VERY similar)
What mic are you having problems with?
Kim

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yeah, thats the one!
>Changing the tube helped?
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>H



i, Cujo.
>>Actually, my terminology (motorboating)is probably wrong.
>>The noise I had was almost like filtered pink noise. (not much above, say
>>500hz), but a constant background rumble of no fixed pitch.
>>Kim
>>
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hmmm, coud you describe that "motorboating" sound? I sometimes get a "
>the
>>>langoliers are coming" sound from my tube mice.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>No.
>>>>They are standard Mogami edition mics, from two different batches, about
>>>>nine months apart.
>>>>The second one I bought had a bit of very low level "motorboating"
>>>>noise, (not major), which I cured by changing the valve.
>>>>I didn't expect much when I bought the first
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61309 is a reply to message #61308] Wed, 14 December 2005 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
one, but when I heard it,
>>I
>>>>just had to get a second one.
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim, are your MXL's modded?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>S
>>>>
>>>>orry guys, just realised the mic I was referring to was a U67.
>>>>>>I take it back.... Never tried a U47.
>>>>>>Kim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.asswipe> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahh, the U47.
>>>>>>>I love the sound of it as much as I love the sound of my two MXL v69's.
>>>>>>>After spending some time over the space of a week A/Bing the two mics,
>>>>>with
>>>>>>>a variety of sources, I really wanted to hate the V69, but I couldn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>The two sounded sooo similar, but the V69 was quieter.
>>>>>>>My Rode Classic II wasn't in the league.
>>>>>>>....Ouch.... watch the flames begin....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>Greetings ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Since no one has successfuly put the mics in order
>>>>>>>>so far .
>>>>>>>>Listen to the files and guess which one is the
>>>>>>>>Holy grail of mics - the U47 :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Morgan%20Pettinato/Mic%20Con test/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Good Luck - Prizes will still stand !
>>>>>>>>info on my previous post ( Listening challenge @ the File vault )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Morgan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>PPA LD 2ube, and it;s the 3rd one they;ve sent me.
Stay away.
It sounds pretty good though. I'd like a darker tube if I had a choice

"Kim W.no@way.com" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Sure did, it fixed it.
>Not saying that it will work for you, but worth a shot IMO.
>You could also use the opportunity to experiment with different
>valves for different sounds (brighter/darker).
>I wouldn't go as far as spending a mint on NOS Telefunkens, though, I have
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61310 is a reply to message #61309] Wed, 14 December 2005 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
>read that even those were subject to quality variation, and thus are just
>as prone to sounding like poop
>as any other manufacturer.
>I bought a few Mullards from Britain (a couple of spares), and the one I
>used
>didn't change the character appreciably, so the two mics still sound
>VERY similar)
>What mic are you having problems with?
>Kim
>
>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Yeah, thats the one!
>>Changing the tube helped?
>>
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>H
>
>
>
>i, Cujo.
>>>Actually, my terminology (motorboating)is probably wrong.
>>>The noise I had was almost like filtered pink noise. (not much above,
say
>>>500hz), but a constant background rumble of no fixed pitch.
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>
>>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hmmm, coud you describe that "motorboating" sound? I sometimes get a
"
>>the
>>>>langoliers are coming" sound from my tube mice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>No.
>>>>>They are standard Mogami edition mics, from two different batches, about
>>>>>nine months apart.
>>>>>The second one I bought had a bit of very low level "motorboating"
>>>>>noise, (not major), which I cured by changing the valve.
>>>>>I didn't expect much when I bought the first one, but when I heard it,
>>>I
>>>>>just had to get a second one.
>>>>>Kim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim, are your MXL's modded?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>S
>>>>>
>>>>>orry guys, just realised the mic I was referring to was a U67.
>>>>>>>I take it back.... Never tried a U47.
>>>>>>>Kim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.asswipe> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahh, the U47.
>>>>>>>>I love the sound of it as much as I love the sound of my two MXL
v69's.
>>>>>>>>After spending some time over the space of a week A/Bing the two
mics,
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>a variety of sources, I really wanted to hate the V69, but I couldn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The two sounded sooo similar, but the V69 was quieter.
>>>>>>>>My Rode Classic II wasn't in the league.
>>>>>>>>....Ouch.... watch the flames begin....
>>
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61312 is a reply to message #61310] Wed, 14 December 2005 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Since no one has successfuly put the mics in order
>>>>>>>>>so far .
>>>>>>>>>Listen to the files and guess which one is the
>>>>>>>>>Holy grail of mics - the U47 :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Morgan%20Pettinato/Mic%20Con test/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Good Luck - Prizes will still stand !
>>>>>>>>>info on my previous post ( Listening challenge @ the File vault
)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Morgan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>Bad scene...



Stay safe Boston!


El Miguel


"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:43a031ef$1@linux...
>
> Be careful who you get in your studio.
>
> This happened here in Boston last night
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shooting.reut/index. html
>Hope that's not Cron... he's in Boston, and works on that type
of stuff, as I recall.

Neil


"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Be careful who you get in your studio.
>
>This happened here in Boston last night
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shooting.reut/index. html
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>They do sound nice, don't they? Funny, the C460B's got a bad rap years ago
>because some of the units exhibited distortion in the head amp and required
>a mod to fix it. Jim Williams does a pretty well known mod to these mics
>that is supposed to help them along.

The mod is well worth the money, although he does remove the transformer,
which some not like. I think the real source of the great sound here is
the capsules themselves. Stephen Paul once told me on the phone (he was
very generous with his time) that the capsules for this series was the only
thing AKG was currently making that was good....I had the same issue a couple of weeks ago, but it was (I think) a PTLE
system. The files aren't sd2, or at least wouldn't translate as such (no
file extensions there either - adding extensions didn't work). No luck.
Fortunately the other songs had bcast wave files or aif. I don't know why
the studio couldn't keep one file format.

I tried importing the files into Audition (CEP) since it can read both byte
ordering formats as well as raw pcm formats - no luck either - just noise.

If you don't have any luck, I would impress upon the studio the fact that no
one masters in ProTools and you need a format the rest of the world can
read.

Regards,
Dedric

On 12/13/05 10:08 PM, in article 439fa9e6@linux, "Chris Latham"
<latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I just got a disk of a bluegrass record that I'm going to master for a buddy
> of mine. The engineer mixed it on a PTHD system, and burned me this disk of
> the final mixes. There are no file extensions. I asked for wavs, so I
> tried adding .wav, and all the other obvious extensions, to the files to try
> to open them either in Wavelab or Sound Forge. No luck, yet. Any
> ideas????.... Anyone???.....
>
> Thanks for any light you might shine,
>
> CL
>
>Over the last 3-4 years, I've worked with a group of inner city kids, helping
them record their projects and showing them how to put together their own
hard and software. I'm pretty close with one or two, and I'm waiting to hear
whether anyone I know was involved. It's going to really suck if so. Boston
is not a laid back area to begin with, and the cold weather makes it worse.
Sitting in front of a big heater,
Ben



"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Be careful who you get in y
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61313 is a reply to message #61312] Wed, 14 December 2005 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
our studio.
>
>This happened here in Boston last night
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shooting.reut/index. html
>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:43a04f7e$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >They do sound nice, don't they? Funny, the C460B's got a bad rap years
ago
> >because some of the units exhibited distortion in the head amp and
required
> >a mod to fix it. Jim Williams does a pretty well known mod to these mics
> >that is supposed to help them along.
>
> The mod is well worth the money, although he does remove the transformer,
> which some not like. I think the real source of the great sound here is
> the capsules themselves. Stephen Paul once told me on the phone (he was
> very generous with his time) that the capsules for this series was the
only
> thing AKG was currently making that was good....

Stephen was fun to chat with wasn't he? I once spent 3 hours on the phone
with him (on his dime) shooting the shit about micing up drum kit in his
living room. He followed that up a few days laterby mailing me an aritcle he
wrote for some magazine called "Zen and the art of drum micing". Hell'uva
nice guy and and incredibly deep well of knowledge.

;o)Bummer. I'll betcha when all is said and done, it turns out to be drug
related.

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:43a031ef$1@linux...
>
> Be careful who you get in your studio.
>
> This happened here in Boston last night
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shooting.reut/index. html
>Love these custom features. Thanks Kim

Kent

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:43a01a80$1@linux...
>
> I find that toggling the stereo/mono switch in the return section, centres
> the effect.
> Whenever I recall a saved mix, first thing I do is to toggle EVERY effects
> return in all submixes.
> This is a bug, but workable once you are aware of it.
> I thought more people new about this "feature".
> Kim
>
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >so basically you guys are saying EDS effects are craptastic? It's like
>
> >the closer we look the more warts there are. hmm
> >
> >RK wrote:
> >> Thank you sir, may I have 'another'! So many undocumented 'features'
> there
> >> should be a document to feature them. Speaking of document, sweet job
> on
> >> the DVD with the Tank.
> >>
> >> Happy compensating.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Kent
> >> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >> news:439fa41a$1@linux...
> >>> Glad to help man - I'm a stereo field JUNKIE and noticed this almost
> >>> immediately upon using paris at my place. Room verb is 'real' heavy to
> one
> >>> side I've found and some of the plugs that were in development also
had
> >> this
> >>> issue. I am not sure why that is, but it definitely is at my place. I
> >>> typically end up panning up the verb return to compensate. After a
while
> >> you
> >>> just get used to it and use things to offset the lopsided signal, even
> >> using
> >>> it to your advantage in certain situations. I have not noted anything
> like
> >>> this in the VST/DX area, just EDS.
> >>> Another undocumented Paris 'feature', perhaps?
> >>>
> >>> AA
> >>>
> >>> "RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:439f8e4e@linux...
> >>>> Whoa, no shit! EDS Compress Opto has a "pan-fried" mind of it's own.
> >>>> Even
> >>>> when bypassed, it weighs left, but if recorded without and EDS, it's
> >> right
> >>>> up the center. Thanks a bunch for the help. And it's good to be
back.
> >>>> Happy Holidays.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kent
> >>>>
> >>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >>>> news:439f5a2d$1@linux...
> >>>>> It's probably an EDS effect. Bypass 'em all, I've noted that some
are
> >&g
Re: Pin the Tail on the donkey OOPS!! (wrong mic!) [message #61345 is a reply to message #61313] Thu, 15 December 2005 03:11 Go to previous message
Morgan is currently offline  Morgan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 133
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:43a0fdad@linux">news:43a0fdad@linux</A>...</DIV>Neil =
>wrote:<BR>>=20
> Hope that's not Cron... he's in Boston, and works on that type<BR>> =
>of=20
> stuff, as I recall.<BR>> <BR>> Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
>"cujo"=20
> <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
>.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> <BR>>>Be careful who you get in your=20
> studio.<BR>>><BR>>>This happened here in Boston last=20
> =
>night<BR>>><BR>>>http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shoo=
>ting.reut/index.html<BR>>><BR>>=20
> <BR>> <BR><BR><BR>Yeah, Cron - check in with us if you read=20
>this..<BR><BR>TC</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>Well, I just checked his hydrorecords site, and there's a post
from him dated yesterday afternoon (not related to the shooting,
it's a press-release-type thang), so I guess he's OK.

Neil


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I don't think Cron was from Dorchester. I was thinking either
>Boston proper or the north shore.
>I might be wrong though.
>
>Tom
>
>
> "TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message =
>news:43a0fdad@linux...
> Neil wrote:
> > Hope that's not Cron... he's in Boston, and works on that type
> > of stuff, as I recall.
> >=20
> > Neil
> >=20
> >=20
> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >>Be careful who you get in your studio.
> >>
> >>This happened here in Boston last night
> >>
> >> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shooting.reut/index. html
> >>
> >=20
> >=20
>
>
> Yeah, Cron - check in with us if you read this..
>
> TC
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't think Cron was from =
>Dorchester.  I was=20
>thinking either</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Boston proper or the north =
>shore.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I might be wrong though.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"TC" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org">tc@spammetodeathyoubastar=
>ds.org</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:43a0fdad@linux">news:43a0fdad@linux</A>...</DIV>Neil =
>wrote:<BR>>=20
> Hope that's not Cron... he's in Boston, and works on that type<BR>> =
>of=20
> stuff, as I recall.<BR>> <BR>> Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
>"cujo"=20
> <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
>.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> <BR>>>Be careful who you get in your=20
> studio.<BR>>><BR>>>This happened here in Boston last=20
> =
>night<BR>>><BR>>>http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/14/boston.shoo=
>ting.reut/index.html<BR>>><BR>>=20
> <BR>> <BR><BR><BR>Yeah, Cron - check in with us if you read=20
>this..<BR><BR>TC</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>Hi

I'm trying to get inspired to work the ole Paris again and was wondering if
any of you would be willing to share your music with the group. It seems
like a lot of you have really taken the Paris to the highest sonic levels
and I would like to hear what you all are getting.

If you wanted to take a small portion of some work and keep it as a wav file
that would be really great. I'm hoping that hearing some good tones will
inspire me to get back into it.

Much appreciated.

Barry

p.s. music that has vocals would be preferred. thanks.The talented Jason Miles CD will surely fire you up.

Report message to a moderator

Previous Topic: 8 in Calibration
Next Topic: Wizoo W2 in Paris?
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Tue Nov 26 08:59:36 PST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.04994 seconds