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Sony BMG Settles Suit Over CDs

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061219/D8M44CE00.html
Re: DRM and Sony [message #77219 is a reply to message #77217] Tue, 19 December 2006 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Companies that want to load their CDs with software that limits the ability
to copy music should fully inform consumers about it, not hide it, and make
sure it doesn't inflict security vulnerabilities on computers," California
Attorney General Bill Lockyer said in a statement.

Bizarrely sane and well said for a politician.

TCB

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Sony BMG Settles Suit Over CDs
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061219/D8M44CE00.html
Re: DRM and Sony [message #77400 is a reply to message #77219] Sun, 24 December 2006 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed is currently offline  Ed   JAPAN
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NOT well said... and I read your other comments about the DRM article and
you stated something about it being typical Microsoft bashing.. or
something. People really amaze me who they walk through life with blinders.
I am not sure your age, but I personally be computing since DOS 2.1, along
with self taught C programming, amongst many more... but I personally
watched MS come from nothing to something... I also personally witnessed
their business stratagies and tactics... It's not bashing them... it's all
facts and until people learn that.. it won't go away.

That said... and back to the article and comment... When you buy a CD and
copy it on cassette (like we have done a zillion times back in the 80's and
90's)... where is this DRM? With all this bullshit about DRM, we are losing
a basic prinicple.. purchase or rent. What these money-sucking companies
want is to place a rental fee on digital content... you no longer purchase
the content, like a CD, cassette or album.

This is all wrong. DRM needs to go away and hopefully people will stop
buying it. But that's another problem. Many of the kids growing up now are
use to it sincethey've had an iPod since they were kids and they think it is
all natural.

I don't have an iPod or any other player... and that is why, they are all
proprietary or DRM infested....




"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:458861ac$1@linux...
>
> "Companies that want to load their CDs with software that limits the
> ability
> to copy music should fully inform consumers about it, not hide it, and
> make
> sure it doesn't inflict security vulnerabilities on computers," California
> Attorney General Bill Lockyer said in a statement.
>
> Bizarrely sane and well said for a politician.
>
> TCB
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Sony BMG Settles Suit Over CDs
>>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061219/D8M44CE00.html
>
Re: DRM and Sony [message #77402 is a reply to message #77400] Sun, 24 December 2006 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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Yeah, I'm pretty new to computers, so I guess I should spend some more time
thinking about these things. You might be right, it could be a generational
thing, with people my age not taking the time to work this stuff out. I probably
should listen more to people better informed than I am. Have you heard of
linux? Those linux guys seem to really care about freedom. It's sort of an
interesting idea, I've been thinking I should check it out when I have time.


Anyway, thanks!

TCB

"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>NOT well said... and I read your other comments about the DRM article and

>you stated something about it being typical Microsoft bashing.. or
>something. People really amaze me who they walk through life with blinders.

>I am not sure your age, but I personally be computing since DOS 2.1, along

>with self taught C programming, amongst many more... but I personally
>watched MS come from nothing to something... I also personally witnessed

>their business stratagies and tactics... It's not bashing them... it's all

>facts and until people learn that.. it won't go away.
>
>That said... and back to the article and comment... When you buy a CD and

>copy it on cassette (like we have done a zillion times back in the 80's
and
>90's)... where is this DRM? With all this bullshit about DRM, we are losing

>a basic prinicple.. purchase or rent. What these money-sucking companies

>want is to place a rental fee on digital content... you no longer purchase

>the content, like a CD, cassette or album.
>
>This is all wrong. DRM needs to go away and hopefully people will stop

>buying it. But that's another problem. Many of the kids growing up now
are
>use to it sincethey've had an iPod since they were kids and they think it
is
>all natural.
>
>I don't have an iPod or any other player... and that is why, they are all

>proprietary or DRM infested....
>
>
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:458861ac$1@linux...
>>
>> "Companies that want to load their CDs with software that limits the
>> ability
>> to copy music should fully inform consumers about it, not hide it, and

>> make
>> sure it doesn't inflict security vulnerabilities on computers," California
>> Attorney General Bill Lockyer said in a statement.
>>
>> Bizarrely sane and well said for a politician.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Sony BMG Settles Suit Over CDs
>>>
>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061219/D8M44CE00.html
>>
>
>
Re: DRM and Sony [message #77409 is a reply to message #77402] Sun, 24 December 2006 17:36 Go to previous message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Chuck
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, I'm pretty new to computers, so I guess I should spend some more time
>thinking about these things. You might be right, it could be a generational
>thing, with people my age not taking the time to work this stuff out. I
probably
>should listen more to people better informed than I am. Have you heard of
>linux? Those linux guys seem to really care about freedom. It's sort of
an
>interesting idea, I've been thinking I should check it out when I have time.
>
>
>Anyway, thanks!
>
>TCB
>
>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>NOT well said... and I read your other comments about the DRM article and
>
>>you stated something about it being typical Microsoft bashing.. or
>>something. People really amaze me who they walk through life with blinders.
>
>>I am not sure your age, but I personally be computing since DOS 2.1, along
>
>>with self taught C programming, amongst many more... but I personally
>>watched MS come from nothing to something... I also personally witnessed
>
>>their business stratagies and tactics... It's not bashing them... it's
all
>
>>facts and until people learn that.. it won't go away.
>>
>>That said... and back to the article and comment... When you buy a CD and
>
>>copy it on cassette (like we have done a zillion times back in the 80's
>and
>>90's)... where is this DRM? With all this bullshit about DRM, we are losing
>
>>a basic prinicple.. purchase or rent. What these money-sucking companies
>
>>want is to place a rental fee on digital content... you no longer purchase
>
>>the content, like a CD, cassette or album.
>>
>>This is all wrong. DRM needs to go away and hopefully people will stop
>
>>buying it. But that's another problem. Many of the kids growing up now
>are
>>use to it sincethey've had an iPod since they were kids and they think
it
>is
>>all natural.
>>
>>I don't have an iPod or any other player... and that is why, they are all
>
>>proprietary or DRM infested....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:458861ac$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Companies that want to load their CDs with software that limits the

>>> ability
>>> to copy music should fully inform consumers about it, not hide it, and
>
>>> make
>>> sure it doesn't inflict security vulnerabilities on computers," California
>>> Attorney General Bill Lockyer said in a statement.
>>>
>>> Bizarrely sane and well said for a politician.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Sony BMG Settles Suit Over CDs
>>>>
>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061219/D8M44CE00.html
>>>
>>
>>
>
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