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Fri, 28 September 2007 20:51

excelav

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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

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Do you guys think PCI audio cards will be phased out in a few years for FW
3.2GHz and USB 3.0 boxes?

http://www.macuser.com/hardware/usb_30_is_gonna_be_4_gbps_bi g_1.php

http://lowendmac.com/newsrev/mnr07/0928.html#1

http://blogs.pcworld.com/digitalworld/archives/2007/09/comin g_soonish.html

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Re: PCI vs. FW 3.2Ghz, USB 3.0? [message #90756 is a reply to message #90753]

Fri, 28 September 2007 21:14

Dedric Terry

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I would say is very possible.

Could be a while for PCIe though. SATA/eSATA should be the mainstay for
storage for a while, with FW and USB for I/O and peripherals. Could make
motherboards more populated with these to eliminate PCI slots (other than
video cards).

Speaking of FW 3.2 - where the heck are S1600 and 1394c (twisted pair)?

Dedric

On 9/28/07 9:51 PM, in article 46fdcbaa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Do you guys think PCI audio cards will be phased out in a few years for FW
> 3.2GHz and USB 3.0 boxes?
>
> http://www.macuser.com/hardware/usb_30_is_gonna_be_4_gbps_bi g_1.php
>
> http://lowendmac.com/newsrev/mnr07/0928.html#1
>
> http://blogs.pcworld.com/digitalworld/archives/2007/09/comin g_soonish.html
>

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Re: PCI vs. FW 3.2Ghz, USB 3.0? [message #90758 is a reply to message #90753]

Fri, 28 September 2007 21:44

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46fdcbaa$1@linux...
>
> Do you guys think PCI audio cards will be phased out in a few years for FW
> 3.2GHz and USB 3.0 boxes?
>
> http://www.macuser.com/hardware/usb_30_is_gonna_be_4_gbps_bi g_1.php
>
> http://lowendmac.com/newsrev/mnr07/0928.html#1
>
> http://blogs.pcworld.com/digitalworld/archives/2007/09/comin g_soonish.html

I dunno........the idea of having my audio signals shuttled around in a
packet still makes me nervous. I mean, what if one of them gets dropped and
broken?

;oP

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Re: PCI vs. FW 3.2Ghz, USB 3.0? [message #90774 is a reply to message #90753]

Sat, 29 September 2007 08:06

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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HI James,
PCI 32 bit slots have got about a year left on the in the consumer PC
systems at best. There really isn't any need for then at all on the
consumer system.
PCI-X slots will be around for a few more years on the server market
till the PCI-e spec is completely independent from the PCI bridge
technology.
There are still allot of PCI-x network and drive controller cards
available compared to PCI-e.

Until then PCI-e devices are all over the map in performance. Something
like a RME MADI or Apogee card and some of the high end HD video
capture/playback cards really push the the limits of PCI-e slots
right now.
But they are some of the only devices that do.

USB 3.0, Fire wire 3.2 devices will easily replace the need for PCI
slots. Fire wire already replaces the need for many devices already.

What I hope this time around the requirement for stricter compliance
for the chip set manufacturers.
Or just make so that only Texas Instruments can make firewire and NEC
can make USB but thats not very "competitive".
PC and MACs are both victims of shitty Fire wire chip sets.

Chris

James McCloskey wrote:
> Do you guys think PCI audio cards will be phased out in a few years for FW
> 3.2GHz and USB 3.0 boxes?
>
> http://www.macuser.com/hardware/usb_30_is_gonna_be_4_gbps_bi g_1.php
>
> http://lowendmac.com/newsrev/mnr07/0928.html#1
>
> http://blogs.pcworld.com/digitalworld/archives/2007/09/comin g_soonish.html
>
>

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ADK
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www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
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Re: PCI vs. FW 3.2Ghz, USB 3.0? [message #90775 is a reply to message #90756]

Sat, 29 September 2007 08:09

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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HI Dedric,
PCI-e isn't going any where soon. It's really just in its infancy. Once
they can remove it from the PCI bridging method that they current have
to do now you will start to see it potential.
Thats gonna be a while though.

Chris

Dedric Terry wrote:
> I would say is very possible.
>
> Could be a while for PCIe though. SATA/eSATA should be the mainstay for
> storage for a while, with FW and USB for I/O and peripherals. Could make
> motherboards more populated with these to eliminate PCI slots (other than
> video cards).
>
> Speaking of FW 3.2 - where the heck are S1600 and 1394c (twisted pair)?
>
> Dedric
>
>
> On 9/28/07 9:51 PM, in article 46fdcbaa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
> <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Do you guys think PCI audio cards will be phased out in a few years for FW
>> 3.2GHz and USB 3.0 boxes?
>>
>> http://www.macuser.com/hardware/usb_30_is_gonna_be_4_gbps_bi g_1.php
>>
>> http://lowendmac.com/newsrev/mnr07/0928.html#1
>>
>> http://blogs.pcworld.com/digitalworld/archives/2007/09/comin g_soonish.html
>>
>>
>
>

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ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762

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