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BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79468] Sun, 04 February 2007 19:56 Go to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.

Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.

rock on,
-Carl
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79476 is a reply to message #79468] Mon, 05 February 2007 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Slightly related... I don't know if anyone saw his purple majesty on SNL last
year. His performance was incredible, the thing that was blowing my mind
was his guitar work. I don't know how it's possible, but he got even better.


Chuck

"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79478 is a reply to message #79468] Mon, 05 February 2007 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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I'm always amazed at how two people can see totally different things. First
I hate medleys. Play 2 songs in full for 10 mins and I'm happy. I also
thought his hendrix section was lousy and even I can do better than that.
I could not hear drums at all till the end it was all guitar 90% of the
time and I really am not impressed. I got so exicted when he took his dew
rag off though. (kidding). Different strokes for different strokes.
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79486 is a reply to message #79478] Mon, 05 February 2007 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nappy is currently offline  Nappy
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I'm always amazed at how.....I will not get into it.
Stop hating! Prince is the real deal. Just post your Hendrix section for
us to be the judge. I'm always amazed.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I'm always amazed at how two people can see totally different things. First
>I hate medleys. Play 2 songs in full for 10 mins and I'm happy. I also
>thought his hendrix section was lousy and even I can do better than that.
> I could not hear drums at all till the end it was all guitar 90% of the
>time and I really am not impressed. I got so exicted when he took his dew
>rag off though. (kidding). Different strokes for different strokes.
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79487 is a reply to message #79468] Mon, 05 February 2007 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I too heard the Billy Joel autotune, and felt really bad for those poor US
soldiers they kept showing. As if it weren't bad enough to send them to get
shot at for no reason anyone has yet been able to explain, then we make them
listen to Billy Joel.

In defense of Mr. Joel and the autotuning, our national anthem was clearly
written by someone who had never tried to sing. The range is truly murder--I
can barely sing it and my voice has a much wider range than most. My guess
is Mr. Scott Key was planning on the violin section playing the melody or
something.

TCB

"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79491 is a reply to message #79486] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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I don't hate him, i'm just saying he doesn't do it for me and that the Hendrix
thing was lame.
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79492 is a reply to message #79468] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can’t have a Super Bowl
half time without a little of the “Debbie Allen” effect, but he was far better
than most.

The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn’t be surprised if they
lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If not,
I’m certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
it off in the pouring rain.

Gene
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79494 is a reply to message #79492] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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The mix sucked entirely. It was all guitar, and when he'd drop
out (often) there was nothing else going on to cover. He's
pretty fast with a few licks, but he has no sense of melody on
guitar - which amazes me, because he obviously does with
everything else. I just don't like that <fast lick/noise/fast
lick/atonal crap/fast lick/bad note/more noise> style of playing.

Neil

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can’t have a Super
Bowl
>half time without a little of the “Debbie Allen” effect, but he was far
better
>than most.
>
>The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn’t be surprised if they
>lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If not,
>I’m certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
>in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
>it off in the pouring rain.
>
>Gene
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>
>>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>>
>>rock on,
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79496 is a reply to message #79487] Mon, 05 February 2007 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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The melody is from an old English drinking song. It wasn't meant to be
sung in tune. ;^)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


TCB wrote:
> I too heard the Billy Joel autotune, and felt really bad for those poor US
> soldiers they kept showing. As if it weren't bad enough to send them to get
> shot at for no reason anyone has yet been able to explain, then we make them
> listen to Billy Joel.
>
> In defense of Mr. Joel and the autotuning, our national anthem was clearly
> written by someone who had never tried to sing. The range is truly murder--I
> can barely sing it and my voice has a much wider range than most. My guess
> is Mr. Scott Key was planning on the violin section playing the melody or
> something.
>
> TCB
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>> decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>> tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>
>> Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>>
>> rock on,
>> -Carl
>>
>>
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79499 is a reply to message #79494] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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That's my feeling exactly but I liked his prince shaped guitar. I was hoping
he would give them away to the crowd. ;-)

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>The mix sucked entirely. It was all guitar, and when he'd drop
>out (often) there was nothing else going on to cover. He's
>pretty fast with a few licks, but he has no sense of melody on
>guitar - which amazes me, because he obviously does with
>everything else. I just don't like that <fast lick/noise/fast
>lick/atonal crap/fast lick/bad note/more noise> style of playing.
>
>Neil
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can’t have a Super
>Bowl
>>half time without a little of the “Debbie Allen” effect, but he was far
>better
>>than most.
>>
>>The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn’t be surprised if
they
>>lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If
not,
>>I’m certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
>>in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
>>it off in the pouring rain.
>>
>>Gene
>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>>>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>>>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>>
>>>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>>>
>>>rock on,
>>>-Carl
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79502 is a reply to message #79468] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
D-unit is currently offline  D-unit   UNITED STATES
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"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c6ab50@linux...
> Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
> decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
> tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
> Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
> rock on,
> -Carl
>
>

It was very robotic sounding.
This was just a notch above lip-synching IMHO.



db
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79504 is a reply to message #79476] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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I think he's done it once or twice before..... ;)

-Carl

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45c71a42$1@linux...
>
> Slightly related... I don't know if anyone saw his purple majesty on SNL
last
> year. His performance was incredible, the thing that was blowing my mind
> was his guitar work. I don't know how it's possible, but he got even
better.
>
>
> Chuck
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
> >decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
> >tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
> >
> >Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
> >
> >rock on,
> >-Carl
> >
> >
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79506 is a reply to message #79487] Mon, 05 February 2007 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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There's no excuse for that man. It was just ....well, stupid engineering.
You don't have to set the autotune so harsh - Joel is capable of singing it,
and I think most people would rather hear a note or two drift around rather
than listen to a vocoder - for the national anthem, p l e a s e.

And, that is what made me appreciate Prince's performance (guitar mix and
all) more - was the fact that I could tell it was the real deal with no
lame-ass crap a là Mr Joel. Purple Rain - *in* the rain??? C'mon, you gotta
love that.....

-Carl

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c75456$1@linux...
>
> I too heard the Billy Joel autotune, and felt really bad for those poor US
> soldiers they kept showing. As if it weren't bad enough to send them to
get
> shot at for no reason anyone has yet been able to explain, then we make
them
> listen to Billy Joel.
>
> In defense of Mr. Joel and the autotuning, our national anthem was clearly
> written by someone who had never tried to sing. The range is truly
murder--I
> can barely sing it and my voice has a much wider range than most. My guess
> is Mr. Scott Key was planning on the violin section playing the melody or
> something.
>
> TCB
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
> >decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
> >tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
> >
> >Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
> >
> >rock on,
> >-Carl
> >
> >
>
Re: BJ's autotune stunk, and Prince rocked the house [message #79551 is a reply to message #79492] Mon, 05 February 2007 18:43 Go to previous message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
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Joel's gotta get a handle on his rider I'd say. I'm sure he didn't want
that box riding his path THAT hard. It was right on the edge of silly.

W. Mark Wilson

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:45c75a19$1@linux...
>
> I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can't have a Super
> Bowl
> half time without a little of the "Debbie Allen" effect, but he was far
> better
> than most.
>
> The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn't be surprised if
> they
> lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If
> not,
> I'm certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
> in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
> it off in the pouring rain.
>
> Gene
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>
>>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>>
>>rock on,
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>
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