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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70014 is a reply to message #70002] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 16:08   |
Aaron Allen
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Hosa, Hoser... watevah
Take off Hosa
AA
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:44ad6c6a@linux...
> Deej,
>
> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's worth a
> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
> findings.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Tony
>
> ;>)
>
> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was as
> good or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I
> could finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44ad54ed@linux...
>> http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
>> WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
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>>
>
>
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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70015 is a reply to message #70014] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 16:15 |
Aaron Allen
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darn sticky fingers got post happy.....
It's a beauty way to go.
Anyway..... I would think that by simple proxy that it's worth at least
looking at because if it truly is capable of 96k, then it has to be at least
somewhat stable at 44.1/48... yeah? On the other hand it might all be nasty
junk on the o-scope, eh? It kinda worries me that they spec it for 16-24
bits..... since when did a word clock affect bitrate? Marketing schmucks
perhaps?
$89 does make it tempting though dunnit Deej. So, send me your GenX clock
and I'll pick up one of these and compare it for ya :)
AA
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44ad96d3@linux...
> Hosa, Hoser... watevah
> Take off Hosa
> AA
>
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:44ad6c6a@linux...
>> Deej,
>>
>> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's worth a
>> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
>> findings.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> ;>)
>>
>> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was as
>> good or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I
>> could finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44ad54ed@linux...
>>> http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
>>> WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70018 is a reply to message #70002] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 17:30 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Tony.........did you know that the most expensive and (arguably) the best
digital cabling is made by Hosa. It is called Zaolla. I thnk Hosa gets a bad
rap because of their molded "semipro" snakes. I have used them and though
they don't have the "top" that Mogami has, I wouldn't expect this with such
an inexpensive product. To be fair, I never once had one fail. They always
did exactly what they were advertized to do without any problem whatsoever.
I don't equate Hosa with the likes of Behringer or the new Mackie stuff (I
picked up one of the Mackie live mixers recently and it is a POS
personified.....easily as crappy as Behringer). OTOH, I've got a couple of
the Hosa AES>spdif bidirectional format converters here and they are
excellent products. Based on my experience with their products, I would
expect this clock to perform at least as well, if not considerably better
than the internal Paris clock. A way to test it would be to hook it up to
Paris and compare the sound of the Paris D/A converters with and without the
Hosa. If you hear an improvement in the midrange (where the jitter lives),
then the clock is doing it's job.
Deej
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:44ad6c6a@linux...
> Deej,
>
> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's worth a
> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
> findings.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Tony
>
> ;>)
>
> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was as
good
> or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I could
> finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44ad54ed@linux...
> >
http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
> > WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70021 is a reply to message #70018] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 19:26 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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I hear ya Deej. I also have several of the HOSA "molded" end snakes in a
closet here somewhere. I use some of their insert adapter cables on my live
rig too. I just figured being a budget brand, that something as sensitive as
a word clock might be a gamble. It's good to know their hardware is decent.
You know, if they'd have put the Zoalla brand name on it . . . Naw, then
they'd have to charge ten times as much. I might just have to give it a try.
The price is definitely right.
Speaking of live gear, I've been itching to talk about my new live mixer.
Mackie TT24 digital board. I've only had it a couple of months, but so far
I'm loving it. It replaced an older Roland VM-7200 rig I was using and the
difference in sound is remarkable. The user interface is solid and pretty
easy to learn and I've eliminated a 16 space rack of EQ's and compressors
since this thing has everything I need built right in. OK, enough of that.
Just had to dote on my new baby.
Tony
On 7/6/06 7:30 PM, in article 44adab98@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> Tony.........did you know that the most expensive and (arguably) the best
> digital cabling is made by Hosa. It is called Zaolla. I thnk Hosa gets a bad
> rap because of their molded "semipro" snakes. I have used them and though
> they don't have the "top" that Mogami has, I wouldn't expect this with such
> an inexpensive product. To be fair, I never once had one fail. They always
> did exactly what they were advertized to do without any problem whatsoever.
> I don't equate Hosa with the likes of Behringer or the new Mackie stuff (I
> picked up one of the Mackie live mixers recently and it is a POS
> personified.....easily as crappy as Behringer). OTOH, I've got a couple of
> the Hosa AES>spdif bidirectional format converters here and they are
> excellent products. Based on my experience with their products, I would
> expect this clock to perform at least as well, if not considerably better
> than the internal Paris clock. A way to test it would be to hook it up to
> Paris and compare the sound of the Paris D/A converters with and without the
> Hosa. If you hear an improvement in the midrange (where the jitter lives),
> then the clock is doing it's job.
>
> Deej
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:44ad6c6a@linux...
>> Deej,
>>
>> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's worth a
>> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
>> findings.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> ;>)
>>
>> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was as
> good
>> or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I could
>> finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44ad54ed@linux...
>>>
> http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
>>> WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70024 is a reply to message #70021] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 20:42 |
Carl Amburn
Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005
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I am thinking about checking one of these out. I've got a scope out here
too, so if you guys wanna tell me what to look for, I'll hook that up and
give my results.....
-Carl
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:C0D330A3.15D7F%tony@standinghampton.com...
> I hear ya Deej. I also have several of the HOSA "molded" end snakes in a
> closet here somewhere. I use some of their insert adapter cables on my
live
> rig too. I just figured being a budget brand, that something as sensitive
as
> a word clock might be a gamble. It's good to know their hardware is
decent.
> You know, if they'd have put the Zoalla brand name on it . . . Naw, then
> they'd have to charge ten times as much. I might just have to give it a
try.
> The price is definitely right.
>
> Speaking of live gear, I've been itching to talk about my new live mixer.
> Mackie TT24 digital board. I've only had it a couple of months, but so far
> I'm loving it. It replaced an older Roland VM-7200 rig I was using and the
> difference in sound is remarkable. The user interface is solid and pretty
> easy to learn and I've eliminated a 16 space rack of EQ's and compressors
> since this thing has everything I need built right in. OK, enough of that.
> Just had to dote on my new baby.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/6/06 7:30 PM, in article 44adab98@linux, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> > Tony.........did you know that the most expensive and (arguably) the
best
> > digital cabling is made by Hosa. It is called Zaolla. I thnk Hosa gets a
bad
> > rap because of their molded "semipro" snakes. I have used them and
though
> > they don't have the "top" that Mogami has, I wouldn't expect this with
such
> > an inexpensive product. To be fair, I never once had one fail. They
always
> > did exactly what they were advertized to do without any problem
whatsoever.
> > I don't equate Hosa with the likes of Behringer or the new Mackie stuff
(I
> > picked up one of the Mackie live mixers recently and it is a POS
> > personified.....easily as crappy as Behringer). OTOH, I've got a couple
of
> > the Hosa AES>spdif bidirectional format converters here and they are
> > excellent products. Based on my experience with their products, I would
> > expect this clock to perform at least as well, if not considerably
better
> > than the internal Paris clock. A way to test it would be to hook it up
to
> > Paris and compare the sound of the Paris D/A converters with and without
the
> > Hosa. If you hear an improvement in the midrange (where the jitter
lives),
> > then the clock is doing it's job.
> >
> > Deej
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:44ad6c6a@linux...
> >> Deej,
> >>
> >> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's worth
a
> >> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
> >> findings.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> ;>)
> >>
> >> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was as
> > good
> >> or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I could
> >> finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44ad54ed@linux...
> >>>
> >
http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
> >>> WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70025 is a reply to message #70024] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 21:02 |
Carl Amburn
Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Ok, so I just picked one of these up for $63.80 (!?) at avalive.com . I'll
let you guys know when I get it and try to run any specs for everyone.
rock on,
-Carl
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:44add6de@linux...
> I am thinking about checking one of these out. I've got a scope out here
> too, so if you guys wanna tell me what to look for, I'll hook that up and
> give my results.....
>
> -Carl
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:C0D330A3.15D7F%tony@standinghampton.com...
> > I hear ya Deej. I also have several of the HOSA "molded" end snakes in a
> > closet here somewhere. I use some of their insert adapter cables on my
> live
> > rig too. I just figured being a budget brand, that something as
sensitive
> as
> > a word clock might be a gamble. It's good to know their hardware is
> decent.
> > You know, if they'd have put the Zoalla brand name on it . . . Naw, then
> > they'd have to charge ten times as much. I might just have to give it a
> try.
> > The price is definitely right.
> >
> > Speaking of live gear, I've been itching to talk about my new live
mixer.
> > Mackie TT24 digital board. I've only had it a couple of months, but so
far
> > I'm loving it. It replaced an older Roland VM-7200 rig I was using and
the
> > difference in sound is remarkable. The user interface is solid and
pretty
> > easy to learn and I've eliminated a 16 space rack of EQ's and
compressors
> > since this thing has everything I need built right in. OK, enough of
that.
> > Just had to dote on my new baby.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/6/06 7:30 PM, in article 44adab98@linux, "DJ"
> > <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Tony.........did you know that the most expensive and (arguably) the
> best
> > > digital cabling is made by Hosa. It is called Zaolla. I thnk Hosa gets
a
> bad
> > > rap because of their molded "semipro" snakes. I have used them and
> though
> > > they don't have the "top" that Mogami has, I wouldn't expect this with
> such
> > > an inexpensive product. To be fair, I never once had one fail. They
> always
> > > did exactly what they were advertized to do without any problem
> whatsoever.
> > > I don't equate Hosa with the likes of Behringer or the new Mackie
stuff
> (I
> > > picked up one of the Mackie live mixers recently and it is a POS
> > > personified.....easily as crappy as Behringer). OTOH, I've got a
couple
> of
> > > the Hosa AES>spdif bidirectional format converters here and they are
> > > excellent products. Based on my experience with their products, I
would
> > > expect this clock to perform at least as well, if not considerably
> better
> > > than the internal Paris clock. A way to test it would be to hook it up
> to
> > > Paris and compare the sound of the Paris D/A converters with and
without
> the
> > > Hosa. If you hear an improvement in the midrange (where the jitter
> lives),
> > > then the clock is doing it's job.
> > >
> > > Deej
> > > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44ad6c6a@linux...
> > >> Deej,
> > >>
> > >> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's
worth
> a
> > >> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
> > >> findings.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance,
> > >>
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >> ;>)
> > >>
> > >> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was
as
> > > good
> > >> or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I
could
> > >> finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:44ad54ed@linux...
> > >>>
> > >
>
http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
> > >>> WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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| Re: WC for the unwashed huddled masses? [message #70026 is a reply to message #70025] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 21:44 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Cool!
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:44addb8f@linux...
> Ok, so I just picked one of these up for $63.80 (!?) at avalive.com . I'll
> let you guys know when I get it and try to run any specs for everyone.
>
> rock on,
> -Carl
>
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:44add6de@linux...
> > I am thinking about checking one of these out. I've got a scope out here
> > too, so if you guys wanna tell me what to look for, I'll hook that up
and
> > give my results.....
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:C0D330A3.15D7F%tony@standinghampton.com...
> > > I hear ya Deej. I also have several of the HOSA "molded" end snakes in
a
> > > closet here somewhere. I use some of their insert adapter cables on my
> > live
> > > rig too. I just figured being a budget brand, that something as
> sensitive
> > as
> > > a word clock might be a gamble. It's good to know their hardware is
> > decent.
> > > You know, if they'd have put the Zoalla brand name on it . . . Naw,
then
> > > they'd have to charge ten times as much. I might just have to give it
a
> > try.
> > > The price is definitely right.
> > >
> > > Speaking of live gear, I've been itching to talk about my new live
> mixer.
> > > Mackie TT24 digital board. I've only had it a couple of months, but so
> far
> > > I'm loving it. It replaced an older Roland VM-7200 rig I was using and
> the
> > > difference in sound is remarkable. The user interface is solid and
> pretty
> > > easy to learn and I've eliminated a 16 space rack of EQ's and
> compressors
> > > since this thing has everything I need built right in. OK, enough of
> that.
> > > Just had to dote on my new baby.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/6/06 7:30 PM, in article 44adab98@linux, "DJ"
> > > <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tony.........did you know that the most expensive and (arguably) the
> > best
> > > > digital cabling is made by Hosa. It is called Zaolla. I thnk Hosa
gets
> a
> > bad
> > > > rap because of their molded "semipro" snakes. I have used them and
> > though
> > > > they don't have the "top" that Mogami has, I wouldn't expect this
with
> > such
> > > > an inexpensive product. To be fair, I never once had one fail. They
> > always
> > > > did exactly what they were advertized to do without any problem
> > whatsoever.
> > > > I don't equate Hosa with the likes of Behringer or the new Mackie
> stuff
> > (I
> > > > picked up one of the Mackie live mixers recently and it is a POS
> > > > personified.....easily as crappy as Behringer). OTOH, I've got a
> couple
> > of
> > > > the Hosa AES>spdif bidirectional format converters here and they are
> > > > excellent products. Based on my experience with their products, I
> would
> > > > expect this clock to perform at least as well, if not considerably
> > better
> > > > than the internal Paris clock. A way to test it would be to hook it
up
> > to
> > > > Paris and compare the sound of the Paris D/A converters with and
> without
> > the
> > > > Hosa. If you hear an improvement in the midrange (where the jitter
> > lives),
> > > > then the clock is doing it's job.
> > > >
> > > > Deej
> > > > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:44ad6c6a@linux...
> > > >> Deej,
> > > >>
> > > >> Buy one, compare it with your good clock and let us know if it's
> worth
> > a
> > > >> crap. I'd like scope readouts, analyzer plots, etc. to support your
> > > >> findings.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks in advance,
> > > >>
> > > >> Tony
> > > >>
> > > >> ;>)
> > > >>
> > > >> Seriously, I'm leery of anything with the HOSA label, but if it was
> as
> > > > good
> > > >> or better than PARIS's internal clock, I might think about it. I
> could
> > > >> finally actually run both MEC's and my 442 at the same time!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:44ad54ed@linux...
> > > >>>
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=AUDIOEQUIP&subc at=AUDINT&prodClass=
> > > >>> WORDCLOCK&search=0&off=0&baseItem=WDC%2D427
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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