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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97039 is a reply to message #97019] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 11:22   |
rick
Messages: 1976
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either mec B or 2. sorry , it's been a while since i've done it. but
if you already have one mec out of the selection then only the new one
will appear.
i believe (again it's been too long...and i'm not in the studio to
even check) it's mains are assigned to the first mec's outputs.
On 18 Mar 2008 23:00:21 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
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>Thanks,
>I still need help understanding what I am looking at in the patchbay now.
>What is this new MEC called and how do I patch it to the L&R monitor out?
>Steve
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>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>yup, 2 mecs with 3 in cards
>>3 eds cards wired starting at the top of #1 you go left connection to
>>right connection below on 1,2 and 3, then the left connection 3 to the
>>right connection on card 1.
>>setting up the pbay is the same as the other cards. just drag them
>>into the window and make the connections.
>>
>>
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>>On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>wrote:
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>>>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards
>and
>>>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>>>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Steve
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97050 is a reply to message #97007] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 20:46 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
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If this is all your Paris inventory, then you can't get 24 channels of
i/o. At best, you get 12 = 4 analog and 2 s/pdif per mec.
Options?
Get a 3rd mec and 3 of the if/2 boxes. That'll give you 8 channels per
mec. Of course, that assumes you have a way to get your frontend
signals to 6 s/pdif channels.
If you have something that can convert to adat, then you can get some
adat cards.
Otherwise, you are basically looking at finding 2 of the 8-in cards.
Setting up the patch bay is pretty standard once you get the add-in
cards installed. Paris should recognize them and you just connect to
the mixer.
Monitoring of the secondary cards is automatic thru the primary card.
No need to patch cards B and C to A.
Good luck.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
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>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards and
>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>Thanks,
>Steve
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97054 is a reply to message #97050] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 21:35 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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Paul,
I have no idea what you ar talking about. In the first case "at best" With
only one MEC, I am already running 16 inputs and have been for years.
What I am trying to do however is get a minimum of 24 simutanious recording
tracks.
My inventory in total is 3 MECs, 5 EDS1000s, 3 control 16s,3-8 channel input
cards,2 adat litepipe cards,5 G4s, 4 flat panel monitors.
However, all i should need to pull this off is 1 Mac G4 with 3 EDS 1000 cards
in it, 2 MECs-one on EDS card-1 and the other on EDS card 3. In one MEC I
have 2 - 8 channel input cards, and in the other MEC I have a single 8-channel
input card.
Am I correct so far? Now I just ned to know how to configure it and be able
to see both mixers on the screen and be able to record 24 analog inputs at
the same time. I am not interested in running litepipe for this gig.
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>If this is all your Paris inventory, then you can't get 24 channels of
>i/o. At best, you get 12 = 4 analog and 2 s/pdif per mec.
>
>Options?
>
>Get a 3rd mec and 3 of the if/2 boxes. That'll give you 8 channels per
>mec. Of course, that assumes you have a way to get your frontend
>signals to 6 s/pdif channels.
>
>If you have something that can convert to adat, then you can get some
>adat cards.
>
>Otherwise, you are basically looking at finding 2 of the 8-in cards.
>
>Setting up the patch bay is pretty standard once you get the add-in
>cards installed. Paris should recognize them and you just connect to
>the mixer.
>
>Monitoring of the secondary cards is automatic thru the primary card.
>No need to patch cards B and C to A.
>
>Good luck.
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
>On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards
and
>>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>>Thanks,
>>Steve
>
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97066 is a reply to message #97054] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 06:44 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
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Whoa, Nelly!
In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
Paris mixer window?
I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
problem changing the size of the mixer window?
In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
- Paul
On 19 Mar 2008 14:35:12 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
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>Paul,
>I have no idea what you ar talking about. In the first case "at best" With
>only one MEC, I am already running 16 inputs and have been for years.
>What I am trying to do however is get a minimum of 24 simutanious recording
>tracks.
>My inventory in total is 3 MECs, 5 EDS1000s, 3 control 16s,3-8 channel input
>cards,2 adat litepipe cards,5 G4s, 4 flat panel monitors.
>However, all i should need to pull this off is 1 Mac G4 with 3 EDS 1000 cards
>in it, 2 MECs-one on EDS card-1 and the other on EDS card 3. In one MEC I
>have 2 - 8 channel input cards, and in the other MEC I have a single 8-channel
>input card.
>Am I correct so far? Now I just ned to know how to configure it and be able
>to see both mixers on the screen and be able to record 24 analog inputs at
>the same time. I am not interested in running litepipe for this gig.
>
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>If this is all your Paris inventory, then you can't get 24 channels of
>>i/o. At best, you get 12 = 4 analog and 2 s/pdif per mec.
>>
>>Options?
>>
>>Get a 3rd mec and 3 of the if/2 boxes. That'll give you 8 channels per
>>mec. Of course, that assumes you have a way to get your frontend
>>signals to 6 s/pdif channels.
>>
>>If you have something that can convert to adat, then you can get some
>>adat cards.
>>
>>Otherwise, you are basically looking at finding 2 of the 8-in cards.
>>
>>Setting up the patch bay is pretty standard once you get the add-in
>>cards installed. Paris should recognize them and you just connect to
>>the mixer.
>>
>>Monitoring of the secondary cards is automatic thru the primary card.
>>No need to patch cards B and C to A.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>- Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>
>>On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards
>and
>>>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>>>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Steve
>>
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97070 is a reply to message #97066] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 07:30 |
Rod Lincoln
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Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
get there by hitting B.
Rod
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Whoa, Nelly!
>
>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>Paris mixer window?
>
>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>
>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>
>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>
>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>
>- Paul
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97073 is a reply to message #97070] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 08:28 |
Paul Artola
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Right you are, Rod. The Patchbay screen is what I meant. Thanks for
catching that.
- Paul
On 20 Mar 2008 00:30:57 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
<rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
>I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
>get there by hitting B.
>Rod
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Whoa, Nelly!
>>
>>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>>Paris mixer window?
>>
>>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>>
>>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>>
>>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>>
>>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>>
>>- Paul
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97078 is a reply to message #97073] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 08:52 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
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And it is in that patchbay that I already am running 16 inputs.
Rod, I have tried to contact you and some others by way of e-mail and get
"undeliverable"
One thing that is not helping me here and is why I am trying to e-mail some
of you is because I am extremely dyslexic. Typing these posts take me sometimes
3-5 minutes for what takes anyone else 20 seconds. It's appears to me scrambled
and upside down at times. Watching me write out a check is halarious! But
not to me. Sooooo anyhow I really wish I could talk to someone on the phone
and would have this licked in minutes. Then I could quit pestering you guys.
Please attempt to e-mail me and hopefully I can call one of you who are running
2 MECs.
Blessings,
Steve
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Right you are, Rod. The Patchbay screen is what I meant. Thanks for
>catching that.
>
>- Paul
>
>On 20 Mar 2008 00:30:57 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
>>I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
>>get there by hitting B.
>>Rod
>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Whoa, Nelly!
>>>
>>>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>>>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>>>Paris mixer window?
>>>
>>>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>>>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>>>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>>>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>>>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>>>
>>>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>>>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>>>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>>>
>>>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>>>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>>>
>>>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>>>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>>>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>>>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>>>
>>>- Paul
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97119 is a reply to message #97078] |
Thu, 20 March 2008 01:37 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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you have to click on mec B's i/o's to activate them like you did on
the first mec. the rest is duplication of the first wiring of it's
i/o's. as far as the adat connections go i believe deej said that one
per mec is all that will work.
On 20 Mar 2008 01:52:38 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
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>And it is in that patchbay that I already am running 16 inputs.
>Rod, I have tried to contact you and some others by way of e-mail and get
>"undeliverable"
>One thing that is not helping me here and is why I am trying to e-mail some
>of you is because I am extremely dyslexic. Typing these posts take me sometimes
>3-5 minutes for what takes anyone else 20 seconds. It's appears to me scrambled
>and upside down at times. Watching me write out a check is halarious! But
>not to me. Sooooo anyhow I really wish I could talk to someone on the phone
>and would have this licked in minutes. Then I could quit pestering you guys.
>
>Please attempt to e-mail me and hopefully I can call one of you who are running
>2 MECs.
>Blessings,
>Steve
>
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Right you are, Rod. The Patchbay screen is what I meant. Thanks for
>>catching that.
>>
>>- Paul
>>
>>On 20 Mar 2008 00:30:57 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
>><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
>>>I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
>>>get there by hitting B.
>>>Rod
>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>Whoa, Nelly!
>>>>
>>>>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>>>>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>>>>Paris mixer window?
>>>>
>>>>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>>>>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>>>>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>>>>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>>>>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>>>>
>>>>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>>>>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>>>>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>>>>
>>>>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>>>>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>>>>
>>>>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>>>>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>>>>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>>>>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>>>>
>>>>- Paul
>>
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| Re: I need to run 24 inputs with Paris for an Easter Play. How? [message #97139 is a reply to message #97119] |
Thu, 20 March 2008 12:32 |
excelav
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rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>you have to click on mec B's i/o's to activate them like you did on
>the first mec. the rest is duplication of the first wiring of it's
>i/o's. as far as the adat connections go i believe deej said that one
>per mec is all that will work.
>
The one to a MEC thing is with Windows XP only.
>On 20 Mar 2008 01:52:38 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>And it is in that patchbay that I already am running 16 inputs.
>>Rod, I have tried to contact you and some others by way of e-mail and get
>>"undeliverable"
>>One thing that is not helping me here and is why I am trying to e-mail
some
>>of you is because I am extremely dyslexic. Typing these posts take me sometimes
>>3-5 minutes for what takes anyone else 20 seconds. It's appears to me scrambled
>>and upside down at times. Watching me write out a check is halarious! But
>>not to me. Sooooo anyhow I really wish I could talk to someone on the phone
>>and would have this licked in minutes. Then I could quit pestering you
guys.
>>
>>Please attempt to e-mail me and hopefully I can call one of you who are
running
>>2 MECs.
>>Blessings,
>>Steve
>>
>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Right you are, Rod. The Patchbay screen is what I meant. Thanks for
>>>catching that.
>>>
>>>- Paul
>>>
>>>On 20 Mar 2008 00:30:57 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
>>><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
>>>>I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen,
you
>>>>get there by hitting B.
>>>>Rod
>>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>Whoa, Nelly!
>>>>>
>>>>>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>>>>>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>>>>>Paris mixer window?
>>>>>
>>>>>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>>>>>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>>>>>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>>>>>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having
a
>>>>>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>>>>>
>>>>>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>>>>>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>>>>>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>>>>>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>>>>>
>>>>>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>>>>>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>>>>>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>>>>>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Paul
>>>
>
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