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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80035 is a reply to message #80029] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 01:49   |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Hey Deej! The T.C. M-350 is only an editor software package, IE. no USB I/O.
The powercore stuff is all FW. Maybe the LiquidMix??? It's supposed to
work with PT, but don't take my word for it.
Once again, there should be no FW bus limitations on the MacBook. Any limitations
are on the Digi side. You need to be running PT 7.3.1 for the MacBook, and
you need to go check out Digi's support page on the FW issues.
http://www.focusrite.com/product/liquid_mix/
http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15
Good luck!
James
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the MX
>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>wrapper in order for this to work.
>
>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>
>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>
>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
on
>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone have
>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>my thought processes? ;oD
>
>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
can
>operate as a VST plugin?
>
>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>
>thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>.
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80036 is a reply to message #80035] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 02:14 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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You might be able to run Muse Research receptor???
http://www.museresearch.com/news.php?id=84
http://www.museresearch.com/news.php?id=74
I'm not sure if this will work???
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/DigiTech/PR/ GSP1101.html
http://www.digitech.com/products/GSP1101/
James
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Deej! The T.C. M-350 is only an editor software package, IE. no USB
I/O.
> The powercore stuff is all FW. Maybe the LiquidMix??? It's supposed to
>work with PT, but don't take my word for it.
>
>Once again, there should be no FW bus limitations on the MacBook. Any limitations
>are on the Digi side. You need to be running PT 7.3.1 for the MacBook,
and
>you need to go check out Digi's support page on the FW issues.
>
>http://www.focusrite.com/product/liquid_mix/
>
>http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15
>
>Good luck!
>
>James
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>
>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>
>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>
>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>
>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>
>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>
>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
MX
>
>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>
>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>
>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>
>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>on
>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
have
>
>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>
>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>
>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>can
>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>
>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>
>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>.
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80037 is a reply to message #80036] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 02:31 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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There is also the Lexicon MX 300 and 500.
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Lexicon/PR/M X300.html
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MX300/
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Lexicon/PR/M X500.html
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MX500/
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>You might be able to run Muse Research receptor???
>http://www.museresearch.com/news.php?id=84
>
>http://www.museresearch.com/news.php?id=74
>
>I'm not sure if this will work???
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/DigiTech/PR/ GSP1101.html
>
>http://www.digitech.com/products/GSP1101/
>
>James
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Deej! The T.C. M-350 is only an editor software package, IE. no USB
>I/O.
>> The powercore stuff is all FW. Maybe the LiquidMix??? It's supposed
to
>>work with PT, but don't take my word for it.
>>
>>Once again, there should be no FW bus limitations on the MacBook. Any
limitations
>>are on the Digi side. You need to be running PT 7.3.1 for the MacBook,
>and
>>you need to go check out Digi's support page on the FW issues.
>>
>>http://www.focusrite.com/product/liquid_mix/
>>
>>http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>James
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>>
>>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>>
>>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>>
>>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>>
>>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>>
>>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>>
>>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>
>>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
>MX
>>
>>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>
>>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>>
>>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>>
>>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>>on
>>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
>have
>>
>>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>>
>>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>>
>>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>>can
>>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>>
>>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>>
>>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80045 is a reply to message #80035] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 07:28 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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James,
I talked to Lexicon about the two new boxes yesterday. They didn't have a
release date (at least that they would disclose). I'll check into the Digi
update situation.
I know the TC box doesn't interface via FW, but it looked pretty cool and
the parameters can be edited via a control panel it seems and controlled by
midi. We'll see.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45d2cd1b$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej! The T.C. M-350 is only an editor software package, IE. no USB
> I/O.
> The powercore stuff is all FW. Maybe the LiquidMix??? It's supposed to
> work with PT, but don't take my word for it.
>
> Once again, there should be no FW bus limitations on the MacBook. Any
> limitations
> are on the Digi side. You need to be running PT 7.3.1 for the MacBook,
> and
> you need to go check out Digi's support page on the FW issues.
>
> http://www.focusrite.com/product/liquid_mix/
>
> http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15
>
> Good luck!
>
> James
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>
>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>
>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>
>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>
>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST
>>capability
>
>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>
>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the MX
>
>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>
>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>
>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>
>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
> on
>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
>>have
>
>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and
>>exercise
>
>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>
>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
> can
>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>
>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>
>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>.
>>
>>
>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80048 is a reply to message #80045] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 09:22 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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The lexicon with the USB VST capability, looks like a cool box. For $199
I don't think you can go wrong with the TC, it's more colors for the palette.
There are other boxes out there that can be controlled from a computer.
You might want to check out the Kurzweil Rumor and Mangler.
http://www.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/products.html?Id=283
James
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>James,
>
>I talked to Lexicon about the two new boxes yesterday. They didn't have
a
>release date (at least that they would disclose). I'll check into the Digi
>update situation.
>
>I know the TC box doesn't interface via FW, but it looked pretty cool and
>the parameters can be edited via a control panel it seems and controlled
by
>midi. We'll see.
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45d2cd1b$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Deej! The T.C. M-350 is only an editor software package, IE. no USB
>> I/O.
>> The powercore stuff is all FW. Maybe the LiquidMix??? It's supposed
to
>> work with PT, but don't take my word for it.
>>
>> Once again, there should be no FW bus limitations on the MacBook. Any
>> limitations
>> are on the Digi side. You need to be running PT 7.3.1 for the MacBook,
>> and
>> you need to go check out Digi's support page on the FW issues.
>>
>> http://www.focusrite.com/product/liquid_mix/
>>
>> http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> James
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>>
>>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>>
>>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>>
>>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>>
>>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST
>>>capability
>>
>>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>>
>>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
MX
>>
>>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>>
>>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>>
>>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>> on
>>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
>>>have
>>
>>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and
>>>exercise
>>
>>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>>
>>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>> can
>>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>>
>>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>>
>>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users...Need a Separate Firewire card.. Period [message #80053 is a reply to message #80029] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 10:13 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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James, I know that you are the Mac guru..But, just like Windows laptops (Dell,IBM,
Compaqs,HPGatways) the onboard Firewire is not suitable for "Streaming" Audio
for DAW applications..
Maybe for 2-6 tracks with a few low cpu usage plugins, but that's it..After
that, it's snap crackle and pop city :)
You have to have Us a Card-Bus firwire card ..period. There's no way around
the it. That's why RME, EMU uses the card buss achitechure bceause it's on
a separate PCI channel..
The Ob-board firewire is a "Shared" pci channel with gods know what?..
Just like I had a colleague return his New Imac(20)intel for a Mac Pro..
No matter what audio interface we used(M-audo, Digi,RME, the onboard firewire
was up to the task of stream his sessions in Cuabse SX and Pro Tools.
Got thenew Mac pro, insert a separate Firewire card and Sata II card...Boom..
Theat baby is streaming up to and beyond 80 plus tracks with a massivie amount
of plugins.. very impressive that Mac Pro is..(Yoda Talk) :)
All in all, just because it's a Mac does not exclude them from the "Rules"
of DAW applications. You need a separate firewire card. period..
DJ, like I stated before, you friend Must take back the Macbook, and get
the Mac book pro.. If not, then he's not serious about solving his problem..
Take care..
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the MX
>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>wrapper in order for this to work.
>
>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>
>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>
>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
on
>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone have
>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>my thought processes? ;oD
>
>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
can
>operate as a VST plugin?
>
>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>
>thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>.
>
>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users...Need a Separate Firewire card.. Period [message #80055 is a reply to message #80053] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 10:34 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Ok.. Here's what's needed.. Macbook pro and this http://www.nitroav.com/product/444/#
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>James, I know that you are the Mac guru..But, just like Windows laptops
(Dell,IBM,
>Compaqs,HPGatways) the onboard Firewire is not suitable for "Streaming"
Audio
>for DAW applications..
>
>Maybe for 2-6 tracks with a few low cpu usage plugins, but that's it..After
>that, it's snap crackle and pop city :)
>
>You have to have Us a Card-Bus firwire card ..period. There's no way around
>the it. That's why RME, EMU uses the card buss achitechure bceause it's
on
>a separate PCI channel..
>
>The Ob-board firewire is a "Shared" pci channel with gods know what?..
>
>Just like I had a colleague return his New Imac(20)intel for a Mac Pro..
>No matter what audio interface we used(M-audo, Digi,RME, the onboard firewire
>was up to the task of stream his sessions in Cuabse SX and Pro Tools.
>
>Got thenew Mac pro, insert a separate Firewire card and Sata II card...Boom..
>Theat baby is streaming up to and beyond 80 plus tracks with a massivie
amount
>of plugins.. very impressive that Mac Pro is..(Yoda Talk) :)
>
>All in all, just because it's a Mac does not exclude them from the "Rules"
>of DAW applications. You need a separate firewire card. period..
>
>DJ, like I stated before, you friend Must take back the Macbook, and get
>the Mac book pro.. If not, then he's not serious about solving his problem..
>Take care..
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>
>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>
>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>
>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>
>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>
>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>
>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
MX
>
>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>
>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>
>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>
>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>on
>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
have
>
>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>
>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>
>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>can
>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>
>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>
>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>.
>>
>>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users...Need a Separate Firewire card.. Period [message #80056 is a reply to message #80053] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 10:44 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Other guys are running Macbooks with the Digi 002. 80 tracks, I guess it
depends on your demands.
James
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>James, I know that you are the Mac guru..But, just like Windows laptops
(Dell,IBM,
>Compaqs,HPGatways) the onboard Firewire is not suitable for "Streaming"
Audio
>for DAW applications..
>
>Maybe for 2-6 tracks with a few low cpu usage plugins, but that's it..After
>that, it's snap crackle and pop city :)
>
>You have to have Us a Card-Bus firwire card ..period. There's no way around
>the it. That's why RME, EMU uses the card buss achitechure bceause it's
on
>a separate PCI channel..
>
>The Ob-board firewire is a "Shared" pci channel with gods know what?..
>
>Just like I had a colleague return his New Imac(20)intel for a Mac Pro..
>No matter what audio interface we used(M-audo, Digi,RME, the onboard firewire
>was up to the task of stream his sessions in Cuabse SX and Pro Tools.
>
>Got thenew Mac pro, insert a separate Firewire card and Sata II card...Boom..
>Theat baby is streaming up to and beyond 80 plus tracks with a massivie
amount
>of plugins.. very impressive that Mac Pro is..(Yoda Talk) :)
>
>All in all, just because it's a Mac does not exclude them from the "Rules"
>of DAW applications. You need a separate firewire card. period..
>
>DJ, like I stated before, you friend Must take back the Macbook, and get
>the Mac book pro.. If not, then he's not serious about solving his problem..
>Take care..
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>
>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>
>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>
>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>
>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>
>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>
>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
MX
>
>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>
>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>
>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>
>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>on
>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
have
>
>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>
>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>
>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>can
>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>
>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>
>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>.
>>
>>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users...Need a Separate Firewire card.. Period [message #80057 is a reply to message #80056] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 11:00 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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I don't disagree withyou, but I had to purchase a separate firwire card (bus)
for my Dell laptop,that has on-board fire-wire..Intel based..I called digi(M-audio)1814
for sugestions as to why I was getting all the crackles and pops withonly
a few tracks,and not running low -latency..
Who knows..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Other guys are running Macbooks with the Digi 002. 80 tracks, I guess it
>depends on your demands.
>
>James
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>James, I know that you are the Mac guru..But, just like Windows laptops
>(Dell,IBM,
>>Compaqs,HPGatways) the onboard Firewire is not suitable for "Streaming"
>Audio
>>for DAW applications..
>>
>>Maybe for 2-6 tracks with a few low cpu usage plugins, but that's it..After
>>that, it's snap crackle and pop city :)
>>
>>You have to have Us a Card-Bus firwire card ..period. There's no way around
>>the it. That's why RME, EMU uses the card buss achitechure bceause it's
>on
>>a separate PCI channel..
>>
>>The Ob-board firewire is a "Shared" pci channel with gods know what?..
>>
>>Just like I had a colleague return his New Imac(20)intel for a Mac Pro..
>>No matter what audio interface we used(M-audo, Digi,RME, the onboard firewire
>>was up to the task of stream his sessions in Cuabse SX and Pro Tools.
>>
>>Got thenew Mac pro, insert a separate Firewire card and Sata II card...Boom..
>>Theat baby is streaming up to and beyond 80 plus tracks with a massivie
>amount
>>of plugins.. very impressive that Mac Pro is..(Yoda Talk) :)
>>
>>All in all, just because it's a Mac does not exclude them from the "Rules"
>>of DAW applications. You need a separate firewire card. period..
>>
>>DJ, like I stated before, you friend Must take back the Macbook, and get
>>the Mac book pro.. If not, then he's not serious about solving his problem..
>>Take care..
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>>
>>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>>
>>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>>
>>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>>
>>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>>
>>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>>
>>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>
>>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
>MX
>>
>>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>
>>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>>
>>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>>
>>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>>on
>>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
>have
>>
>>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>>
>>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>>
>>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>>can
>>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>>
>>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>>
>>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80061 is a reply to message #80029] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 11:37 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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Hey Deej,
I'm not quite as black and white about onboard firewire as Lamont. I've seen
both desktops and laptops that--with good drivers--are usable for reasonably
sized audio projects. I lot of time you wind up doing some old school things
in the BIOS but it can be done.
That said, the difference in performance, quality, ease of install, and reliability
with the RME cardbus system vs. _everything_ out there for portable is, well,
stark. Put the card in, flash the bios in the card if necessary, connect
an interface, set latency to 1.5ms everywhere possible, and never ever ever
ever think about it again.
Unless you have to figure out total mix.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the MX
>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>wrapper in order for this to work.
>
>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>
>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>
>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
on
>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone have
>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>my thought processes? ;oD
>
>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
can
>operate as a VST plugin?
>
>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>
>thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>.
>
>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80062 is a reply to message #80061] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 11:44 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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In other words, I would humbly suggest a $500 ACER, some RME gear, and XP.
Samplitude LE will come with the RME gear as well.
TCB
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Deej,
>
>I'm not quite as black and white about onboard firewire as Lamont. I've
seen
>both desktops and laptops that--with good drivers--are usable for reasonably
>sized audio projects. I lot of time you wind up doing some old school things
>in the BIOS but it can be done.
>
>That said, the difference in performance, quality, ease of install, and
reliability
>with the RME cardbus system vs. _everything_ out there for portable is,
well,
>stark. Put the card in, flash the bios in the card if necessary, connect
>an interface, set latency to 1.5ms everywhere possible, and never ever ever
>ever think about it again.
>
>Unless you have to figure out total mix.
>
>TCB
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>
>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>
>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>
>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>
>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>
>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>
>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
MX
>
>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>
>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>
>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>
>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>on
>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
have
>
>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>
>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>
>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>can
>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>
>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>
>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>.
>>
>>
>
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| Re: A question for you Digi 002 users [message #80070 is a reply to message #80062] |
Wed, 14 February 2007 16:41 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Lol!!! :)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>In other words, I would humbly suggest a $500 ACER, some RME gear, and XP.
>Samplitude LE will come with the RME gear as well.
>
>TCB
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Deej,
>>
>>I'm not quite as black and white about onboard firewire as Lamont. I've
>seen
>>both desktops and laptops that--with good drivers--are usable for reasonably
>>sized audio projects. I lot of time you wind up doing some old school things
>>in the BIOS but it can be done.
>>
>>That said, the difference in performance, quality, ease of install, and
>reliability
>>with the RME cardbus system vs. _everything_ out there for portable is,
>well,
>>stark. Put the card in, flash the bios in the card if necessary, connect
>>an interface, set latency to 1.5ms everywhere possible, and never ever
ever
>>ever think about it again.
>>
>>Unless you have to figure out total mix.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I'm working some more with my musician friend here trying to get his
>>>Mac/Digi 002 based studio configured in a way that's easy for him to use.
>>
>>>Since there are firewire bus limitations on his Macbook (not Macbook Pro),
>>
>>>convolution reverbs are pretty much out of the question, plus he's looking
>>
>>>for something to use during tracking anyway. I'm looking for some
>>>alternatives for him that would allow him to run hardware reverbs and
>>>control them from PTLE.. He is interested in the new Lexicon MX200 which
>>
>>>interfaces via S/Pdif and/or analog (for audio) and USB (for VST capability
>>
>>>and parameter control)and then can be accessed as a VST plugin. This looks
>>
>>>like a pretty cool solution for him maybe. The MX 200 doesn't have the
>
>>>higher end algos that the MX 400 has, but he might want to go with the
>MX
>>
>>>400 which does have increased capabilities................but
>>>anyway.............what I'm going to need is a Mac compatible VST>RTAS
>
>>>wrapper in order for this to work.
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this Lexicon box with a Mac/PTLE?
>>>
>>>Anyone point me to a VST>RTAS wrapper?
>>>
>>>I also need to look into whether or not the optical and coax digital I/O
>>on
>>>the 002 can be used in parallel as a pair of stereo S/Pdif I/O. Anyone
>have
>>
>>>the answer to this one so I won't have to read a bunch of stuff and exercise
>>
>>>my thought processes? ;oD
>>>
>>>Also, doesn't TC Electronics make some kind of box besides the POCO that
>>can
>>>operate as a VST plugin?
>>>
>>>He's more a musician than a techie and probably would be happier staying
>>
>>>that way so I'm going to see if we can get him smilin'.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>
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