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---=_linux4394ef77--"Ed" <AskMe@gmail.com> wrote in message news:43946b74$1@linux...
>
> Edna, I just reviewed your question and I see no one really answered the
question..
> what is it... First, you can do quite a few possible tricks (as some
offered),
> but not all work perfect. If you had it once, you'll have it again. From
> my understanding of computers, programming and using Paris (which I have
> gotten the error)... I believe it basically something within the computer
> is either going too fast or hardware or visa-vera. I haven't seen what
your
> settings are... but have you followed any guidelines to editing your
paris.cfg
> file for the i/o?

No, and I am using XP pro. It was my understanding that with XP I didn't
need to do the i/o or other W98 related tweaks(other than turning off HT).
I did check my Vcache though and it was 8196.


Another possibility is something *could* be conflicting
> and basically hanging when Paris is trying to process... if you don't use
> midi, there is a command line to add in the paris.cfg to turn that off.
> I don't use midi and make it a habit of putting that in the cfg. The bad
> thing about that error is that it is really hard to find the culprit. I
would
> first make sure that your appropriate settings are in the paris.cfg, of
course
> be sure your drives are set for DMA, and also be sure to turn off
background
> services that hog the processor.. such as task scheduler, etc.

Yes, this has all been done from a list I got from "tweaking xp for audio."
It only seems to happen when I am adjusting aux FX during playback.

Hope this
> helps and Good luck.... ~ Ed

Thanks Ed
Edna
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >Thanks, I will. Well, all was not lost as I had thought. I started a
new
> >project using the same name and my recorded tracks appeared, only the
> >project was lost. 8:)
> >
> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43933964@linux...
> >> Get Analogx Autosave for Paris.
> >>
> >> Edna wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the tip, hadn't thought of ctrl-s. Yes, I know I need to
> do
> >> > regular saves and usually do, but got so involved in the excitement
> of
> >the
> >> > project I just forgot. I have to admit, though, I really love Paris!
> >> > E
> >> >
> >> > "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:4392fecc$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> >>Too late now, but I have found that sometimes I have more luck just
> >> >
> >> > hitting
> >> >
> >> >>ctrl-s, without even touching the project window.
> >> >>When you see that HD LED blink, you know you'll be good to go
> >> >>the next boot-up. I Always do an incremental save every 15 minutes
> >> >>or so. Just add a number after the project name when you do a
> >> >>"save as". This gives you the benefit of reviewing your progress,
> >> >>and doing reality checks after many hours at mixing.
> >> >>
> >> >>Kim
> >> >>
> >> >>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Hi Cujo,
> >> >>>Unfortunately, I was not able to save it. Paris would not let me do
> >> >>>anything at all until I responded to the error window and then it
was
> >all
> >> >>>gone! I tried to pull up the project window or do anything but it
> was
> >a
> >> >>>hard freeze.
> >> >>>Since I only had a single submix going and was only using a couple
> >> >
> >> > effects
> >> >
> >> >>>in the aux module on one channel, I was surprised to get this error.
> I
> >> >>
> >> >>have
> >> >>
> >> >>>a gig of memory and a fast processor as well. I am using XP pro
with
> >SP1
> >> >>>though.
> >> >>>Thanks,
> >> >>>E
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:4392898b$1@linux...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Hey E,
> >> >>>>THis is one of my fave's cause I can actually help.
> >> >>>>If you see this error, stop what you are doing, do not respond to
> the
> >> >>>
> >> >>>error
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>message on the screen, get to the project window and save the
project
> >> >>>
> >> >>>under
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>a new name (songV2 or something) and the let paris crach, your
project
> >> >>>
> >> >>>will
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>be A OK when you get paris back up!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Has anyone been able to interpret just what this message means?
> And
> >> >>>>>basically what causes it? I only had 8 tracks recorded and was
> >> >
> >> > working
> >> >
> >> >>>>on
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>aux effects on the piano track which I had copied, delaying the
> >copy,
> >> >>>>>shifting the pitch, and then panning them L and R. After working
> >> >
> >> > most
> >> >
> >> >>>>of
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>the day on the project, this error appeared but I wasnt able to
save
> >> >>
> >> >>the
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>project and since I hadn't remembered to save the project earlier
> I
> >> >
> >> > lost
> >> >
> >> >>>>it
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>all. Think I will call it a day! :-(
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Im just beginning to wonder if there's something amiss in the project =
itself. I also have two other projects and have never had the error =
with them, although I wasnt doing a lot of fxs and adjustments of fx =
during playback?? =20
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4394716f@linux...
Edna,
I really don't have any better answer for you. Control S is your =
friend though.
Maybe you found another Paris bug? Like grabbing too many tracks in =
the=20
editor and changing their lengths together? That one gets me once in =
a while.
Lesson is Control S, Cut all tracks needing editing to the exact same =
length,
Control S, then do the edit, then control S.

I wish I could be of more help. Maybe you do have an issue with Paris =
and your computer.
My assertion failures usually have something related to .dll in their =
title.
Tom


"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message =
news:43944a50@linux...
Thanks. Yes I have a P4, but have HT off. The error message does =
have "cache: 460. . . " in it.(?)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4393cad7@linux...
Edna,
By chance are you using a P4 chip? If so make sur
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe you found another Paris =
bug?&nbsp; Like=20
grabbing too many tracks in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&g
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t;editor and changing their lengths=20
together?&nbsp; That one gets me once in a while.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lesson is Control S, Cut all tracks =
needing=20
editing to the exact same length,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Control S, then do the edit, then =
control=20
S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wish I could be of more =
help.&nbsp; Maybe you=20
do have an issue with Paris and your computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My assertion failures usually have =
something=20
related to .dll in their title.</FONT></DIV>
<
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5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Edna" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:edna@texomaonline.com">edna@texomaonline.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:43950f0a@linux">news:43950f0a@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes all from Paris, from the aux =
section, delay=20
and reverb,&nbsp;and an EDS insert compressor.&nbsp; I do have some=20
VST&nbsp;FX I am going to add to Paris as well.&nbsp; One thing I just =
thought=20
of also is I havent disabled HD caching on my drives yet.</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Edna,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you referring to Paris =
effects?&nbsp; They=20
are pretty robust when it&l
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> have comparing Mac OS9 on an old machine to Windows XP on the latest
> machine
> is not a fair comparison, either.
>
> If your a PC user, and you don't ever want to know about a Mac fine. You
> can stick your head in the sand or up Bill Gates ass or whatever, stay
> ignorant
> if you want, but don't bash the Mac until you have honestly used a new Mac
> with OSX for a year or more.
>man, that fence you're sitting on has got to be killing your butt.
;o)

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:31:28 -0700, DTerry <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net>
wrote:

>My wife's Mac crashes or locks up 5 times a day on average, but icy roads
>caused way more than 5 crashes here today.
>
>It's good to know Sweetwater's G5 can run 146 tracks while tracking 100
>more. I used to run track. I probably sweated as much as the G5, but I bet I
>can still kick it's butt in the 100m high hurdles.
>
>Macs are can make life easier, but Big Macs can cut it short. I don't
>remember the last time I had a Big Mac. I still have a couple of Macs
>though.
>
>Nothing wrong with having a PC, but not being PC is rather unpopular right
>now. I have PCs, but try to avoid being one.
>
>
>On 12/5/05 9:10 PM, in article 43950137$1@linux, "gene lennon"
><glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Chris Wargo" <NA@NA.NA> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yay, Mac vs. PC "debates". Wank wank...
>>>
>>> "I hate computers" <BO@spamno.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> It does seem a little silly - Hi Chris I know, I owe you a call…
>> But…
>> Speaking of cr
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h I could be of more help. Maybe you do have an issue with
=
>Paris and your computer.
> My assertion failures usually have something related to .dll in
=
>their title.
> Tom
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message =
>news:43944a50@linux...
> Thanks. Yes I have a P4, but have HT off. The error message
=
>does have "cache: 460. . . " in it.(?)
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:4393cad7@linux...
> Edna,
> By chance are you using a P4 chip? If so make sure
> Hyperthreading is turned off in your BIOS. That can really=20
> ruin a nice day in Paris.
> Tom
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message =
>news:4392fb60@linux...
> Hi Cujo,
> Unfortunately, I was not able to save it. Paris would not
=
>let me do
> anything at all until I responded to the error window and
=
>then it was all
> gone! I tried to pull up the project window or do =
>anything but it was a
> hard freeze.
> Since I only had a single submix going and was only using
=
>a couple effects
> in the aux module on one channel, I was surprised to get =
>this error. I have
> a gig of memory and a fast processor as well. I am using
=
>XP pro with SP1
> though.
> Thanks,
> E
>
> "Cujo" <
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ly had 8 tracks recorded
=
>and was working
> > on
> > >aux effects on the piano track which I had copied, =
>delaying the copy,
> > >shifting the pitch, and then panning them L and R. =
>After working most
> > of
> > >the day on the project, this error appeared but I wasnt
=
>able to save the
> > >project and since I hadn't remembered to save the =
>project earlier I lost
> > it
> > >all. Think I will call it a day! :-(
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Edna,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In XP run Task Manager Performance to =
>see what's=20
>going on</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>right before a crash.  Is the CPU =
>usage maxing=20
>out?  I'm</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>not sure what to make of it but it =
>might lead you=20
>to a solution.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck with your =
>search!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Edna" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:edna@texomaonline.com">edna@texomaonline.com</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A =
>href=3D"news:43950f0a@linux">news:43950f0a@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes all from Paris, from the aux =
>section, delay=20
> and reverb, and an EDS insert compressor.  I do have some=20
> VST FX I am going to add to Paris as well.  One thing I just =
>thought=20
> of also is I havent disabled HD caching on my drives yet.</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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Some people have
> > their
> > heads so far up Bill Gates ass they can't see strait. Please don't
repeat
> > the same dumb stuff! Find out for your self, and I'm not talking about
> > trying
> > out a mac at a store or library, either.
> >
> > Mike you say Mac OSX crashes, that is pure bullshit! You say, Macs are
> > extremely
> > slow compared to a PC, More dumb bullshit! Not even close to the truth!
> > Your talking out your back side. Mike, honestly, you wouldn't know
what
> > the software on a Mac is worth, because you don't use a Mac. You say
that
> > OSX was a left turn, if Apple ever releases a version of OSX for PC, you
> > will see major erosion in the Windoz market share by general computer
> > users,
> > because it's better than Windoz!
> >
> > As for the four processor in the new G5s and software not being able to
> > utilize
> > the four processors, more ignorance. Mac OSX was written so that the
> > processing
> > load of a program is distributed across all four processors. It is not
> > necessary to run software that is optimized for multi processors to take
> > advantage of multi processors on a Mac. Although there are plenty of
> > programs
> > on the Mac platform that are optimized for multi processors. You really
> > should read up on these things!
> >
> > As for the Pizza box (Beach Ball) spinning, if you where a Mac user you
> > would
> > under stand what this means and what to do. First, on Windows it is the
> > hour glass, same thing on a Mac only it is a spinning beach ball. On a
> > windows
> > machine you would get an error message saying " The program is not
> > responding
> > " and you would go through the dialog boxes and quit the program. On a
> > Mac
> > when you get a spinning beach ball you would do a force quit, to quit a
> > program
> > that was not responding. It's the same as on a PC, but you are going to
> > say the Mac sucks, when in fact you don't understand how it works. It
> > doesn't
> > suck, your just ignorant about it.
> >
> > The Mac bashing gets old, especially when some one is speaking from a
> > point
> > of ignorance, but acts as if they are an expert on the subject. Some
here
> > have comparing Mac OS9 on an old machine to Windows XP on the latest
> > machine
> > is not a fair comparison, either.
> >
> > If your a PC user, and you don't ever want to know about a Mac fine.
You
> > can stick your head in the sand or up Bill Gates ass or whatever, stay
> > ignorant
> > if you want, but don't bash the Mac until you have honestly used a new
Mac
> > with OSX for a year or more.
> >
>
>click in the left section of the url window (over an icon like the Y in
yahoo and the G in google, or a blank page icon) and ver1.5 will select the
entire address. (I'm using a PC version)

:-)

greg bratton

"DC" <dc@spamgates.com> wrote in message news:4393d59f$1@linux...
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>>So far I'm lovin' 1.5. It's very fast. I haven't had any shutdown i
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ssues
>>on my G5. What other bugs do you know about?
>>Gene
>
>
> Hi,
>
> It does not select entire urls when clicking in the address box.
>
> I could not find a pref to do this. There were some other niggles
> I do not remember at the moment.
>
> The worst was the failure to quit out, which kept the Mini on all
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rnell68@hotmail.com" target="_blank">parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> man, that fence you're sitting on has got to be killing your butt.
>> ;o)
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:31:28 -0700, DTerry <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife's Mac crashes or locks up 5 times a day on average, but icy roads
>>> caused way more than 5 crashes here today.
>>>
>>> It's good to know Sweetwater's G5 can run 146 tracks while tracking 100
>>> more. I used to run track. I probably sweated as much as the G5, but I bet I
>>> can still kick it's butt in the 100m high hurdles.
>>>
>>> Macs
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David.

Dimitrios wrote:
> HI,
> I wonder if you have a multi recording session that has used all 16 =
analog
> ins on card A and you wanna use another set of 16 channels on second =
eds
> card what is the situation here ?
> I mean you hear (not that really matters for musicians) 12-14 =
samples latent
> when real monitoring ? Or you just have 12-14 samples latency only =
when playing
> back ?
> Did I make myself clear here ?
> I think lately I giving some hard time for you guys reading my posts =
right
> ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
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David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> Dimitrios has surprised us before!
> Tom
>
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.in
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