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Thu, 14 February 2008 08:02

Deej [5]

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Registered: March 2008

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Well, after all my bitching and catterwalling about not being able to set
the click track to a stereo pair in Cubase and then not being able to hear
the click, I just noticed that there is a little column in the VST devices
menu that says "Click", and furthermore, if you left click in that column,
you can set your click track to any stereo or mono VST output you choose,
and/or as many as you choose.

I'm so ****'in stupid that it's a miracle that I've lived this long.

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95938 is a reply to message #95937]

Thu, 14 February 2008 08:35

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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HI Deej,
Oh so you mean you didn't read step one of the reply I had to you first
post back on the tenth.
:)

Chris

Deej wrote:
> Well, after all my bitching and catterwalling about not being able to set
> the click track to a stereo pair in Cubase and then not being able to hear
> the click, I just noticed that there is a little column in the VST devices
> menu that says "Click", and furthermore, if you left click in that column,
> you can set your click track to any stereo or mono VST output you choose,
> and/or as many as you choose.
>
> I'm so ****'in stupid that it's a miracle that I've lived this long.
>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95940 is a reply to message #95938]

Thu, 14 February 2008 08:47

Deej [5]

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"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47b47114$1@linux...
> HI Deej,
> Oh so you mean you didn't read step one of the reply I had to you first
> post back on the tenth.
> :)
>
>
> Chris

Read???

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95944 is a reply to message #95940]

Thu, 14 February 2008 09:02

Deej [5]

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> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=20
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>> HI Deej,
>> Oh so you mean you didn't read step one of the reply I had to you =
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>> post back on the tenth.
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Chris
>=20
> Read???=20
>=20

Ohhhh......you mean the part where you explaining how to do this in =
Control Room mode? I don't use the control room mode so I figured I was =
just hosed. Maybe I'll give it a go sometime. I need to get myself =
another ADI 8-DS to have 32 analog I/O so I can simplify some stuff =
around here. Life in I/O world still isn't perfect.......but it's =
getting there.

;o)
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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95948 is a reply to message #95938]

Thu, 14 February 2008 11:34

John [1]
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Registered: September 2005

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he only reads my posts! hehe

DJ smackdown at 11

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95949 is a reply to message #95944]

Thu, 14 February 2008 11:35

John [1]
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Control Room maka me berry happy

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95954 is a reply to message #95948]

Thu, 14 February 2008 11:11

Deej [5]

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Registered: March 2008

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Well....I'm having the cubase Clik trak trigger drum samples now and now
that I can asssign the click to any output, I don't have to use the control
room function.....

Here's what I've got as a working tracking template:

26 VST mono inputs for mics and DI's and 8 x stereo inputs (routed to VSTi's
being returned digitally from the slave DAW).

A stereo input on the Furman is dedicated to the VSTi that is tracking and
another stereo input on the Furman is dedicated to the drum kit while
tracking.

The remaining 12 mono inputs (if tracking simultaneously) other than the
drums or VSTi's, would be tracking vocals or instruments and can be routed
either individually or in groups to up to 7 mono inputs of the Furman from
analog mono output busses in Cubase.

One analog output bus in Cubase and a stereo input of the Furman is
dedicated to monitoring pre-recorded tracks.

The main mix is sent from the headphone output of my DAC-1 to a second
stereo pair on the Furman and is routed to the performers if they want to
hear it and also to the control room monitors for monitoring both pre
recorded and currently recording audio.

There are 5 x HRM-16 remote mixers on the cue system.

The click is routed to a mono bus and main mix bus in Cubase and output to
mono channel 8 of the Furman so each of up to 5 x individual performers can
adjust the click level independently in their cans. In a pinch, each of the
HRM-16 mixers can accept a second set of headphones so, in theory I could
have 10 players working on 5 remote mixers, though they would have to
compomise a bit as to their individually customized levels.

I'm using ASIO direct monitoring in Cubase and outboard reverb units on the
Fruman mixers so I don't have to jack around with managing FX sends in the
CR, there is minimal CPU hit and no latency at all.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47b489d0@linux...
>
> he only reads my posts! hehe
>
> DJ smackdown at 11

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95956 is a reply to message #95944]

Thu, 14 February 2008 11:30

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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HI Deej,
No the first part. That explains what you just discovered you old
geezer. ;)

-------------------------
Go to Vst connections and VST Outputs. Open up the window enough to see
the row that say click. on what ever stereo or mono bus channels you
want to have the click track go out too.
Control the output level with total mix. The draw back is you can't
control the click level other than globally in the metronome setup. But
in general this work fine. Sense you can use these buses for audio such
as headphone sends, etc you can pick and choose who hears the click.
------------------
Chris

Deej wrote:
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net <mailto:noway@jose.net>> wrote in message
> news:47b473fb@linux...
> >
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message
> > news:47b47114$1@linux...
> >> HI Deej,
> >> Oh so you mean you didn't read step one of the reply I had to you first
> >> post back on the tenth.
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> > Read???
> >
>
> Ohhhh......you mean the part where you explaining how to do this in
> Control Room mode? I don't use the control room mode so I figured I was
> just hosed. Maybe I'll give it a go sometime. I need to get myself
> another ADI 8-DS to have 32 analog I/O so I can /*simplify */some stuff
> around here. Life in I/O world still isn't perfect.......but it's
> getting there.
>
> ;o)

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95957 is a reply to message #95956]

Thu, 14 February 2008 12:03

Deej [5]

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Registered: March 2008

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Chris,

Check my answer to John's post below.

I seem to have all the bases covered using ADM now. I just keep Totalmix set
to preset 7 with submix off, Monitor Mains set to Phones and Monitor Phones
set to SPDIF and control everything via Cubase ussing and the Furman
HDS-16/HRM-16 cue system.

I've got things routed to my Furman system now so that:

1. Up to 7 mono asnalog output busses can be individually level set for
vocal/instrument input signals while tracking.

2. There is an individual analog stereo bus for monitoring audio being
returned from VSTi's while tracking.

3. There is an individual analog stereo bus for whatever pieces of the drum
kit I want to monitor while tracking-usually the drummer just wants the OH's
along with the kick and snare and sometimes just the OH's.

4. There is an individual analog mono bus for adjusting the level of the
click track that each performer can control independently

5. There is an individual analog stereo bus for pre-recorded tracks being
sent to the cue system.

Each of 5 performers can control the levels of these busses independently of
the others.

6. The main mix which is sumultaneously monitoring both audio being tracked
and pre-recorded audio (and the click if desired) is being sent to both the
cue system and the control room monitors/headphones.

Having that click track assignable to individual busses is a big deal
because now I don't have to waste resources using a VSTi. I'm using a kick
and closed hat. The samples it is triggering are good enough for tracking
sessions.

Regards,

Deej

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47b49a0a@linux...
>
> HI Deej,
> No the first part. That explains what you just discovered you old geezer.
> ;)
>
> -------------------------
> Go to Vst connections and VST Outputs. Open up the window enough to see
> the row that say click. on what ever stereo or mono bus channels you want
> to have the click track go out too.
> Control the output level with total mix. The draw back is you can't
> control the click level other than globally in the metronome setup. But in
> general this work fine. Sense you can use these buses for audio such as
> headphone sends, etc you can pick and choose who hears the click.
> ------------------
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> Deej wrote:
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net <mailto:noway@jose.net>> wrote in message
>> news:47b473fb@linux...
>> >
>> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>> <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message
>> > news:47b47114$1@linux...
>> >> HI Deej,
>> >> Oh so you mean you didn't read step one of the reply I had to you
>> first
>> >> post back on the tenth.
>> >> :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >
>> > Read???
>> >
>> Ohhhh......you mean the part where you explaining how to do this in
>> Control Room mode? I don't use the control room mode so I figured I was
>> just hosed. Maybe I'll give it a go sometime. I need to get myself
>> another ADI 8-DS to have 32 analog I/O so I can /*simplify */some stuff
>> around here. Life in I/O world still isn't perfect.......but it's getting
>> there.
>> ;o)
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #95963 is a reply to message #95944]

Thu, 14 February 2008 13:59

LaMontt

Messages: 424
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

Ha!! Like, you I did not even know about the Control Room feature until Dedric
pointed it out for me a few years ago..

I have to say, Control room is very cool..I'm still on version 3, but I hear
version 4s control rool is even better..

"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:47b473fb@linux...
>>=20
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=20
>> news:47b47114$1@linux...
>>> HI Deej,
>>> Oh so you mean you didn't read step one of the reply I had to you =
>first=20
>>> post back on the tenth.
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>=20
>> Read???=20
>>=20
>
>
>Ohhhh......you mean the part where you explaining how to do this in =
>Control Room mode? I don't use the control room mode so I figured I was
=
>just hosed. Maybe I'll give it a go sometime. I need to get myself =
>another ADI 8-DS to have 32 analog I/O so I can simplify some stuff =
>around here. Life in I/O world still isn't perfect.......but it's =
>getting there.
>
>;o)
>
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Re: OK...it's click track pointy hat time!!! [message #96011 is a reply to message #95937]

Fri, 15 February 2008 15:09

Martin Harrington

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Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I was going to suggest that, Deej, but I felt sure that you would have
checked the obvious first..
BUT, You know what they say about ASS U ME ..
Glad you eventually got it sussed.

Martin Harrington

On 15/2/08 3:02 AM, in article 47b46972@linux, "Deej" <noway@jose.net>
wrote:

> Well, after all my bitching and catterwalling about not being able to set
> the click track to a stereo pair in Cubase and then not being able to hear
> the click, I just noticed that there is a little column in the VST devices
> menu that says "Click", and furthermore, if you left click in that column,
> you can set your click track to any stereo or mono VST output you choose,
> and/or as many as you choose.
>
> I'm so ****'in stupid that it's a miracle that I've lived this long.
>
>
>

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