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Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93421] Fri, 07 December 2007 21:49 Go to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot
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I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service. But...
here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums: very
very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb file,
encoded at 192.
Thanks for the listen.
MR
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93423 is a reply to message #93421] Fri, 07 December 2007 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Damn, that's nice!

Only one thing I don't like - the gutar tone in the solo, it's
too subdued... hammer it with some compression & bring up the
level a bit. Either make it stand out or re-do it, if you're shy
about it the way it is. Also, the fade needs to be a bit
longer, methinks... that groove just feels like it wants a
little bit longer fadeout with less of an abrupt cutoff at the
end. Maybe one more four or 8-measure pass.

Things that I would do differently, but don't necessarily take
away from the song: 1.) I want to hear some more "air" on the
lead vox - think I might compress it a bit more & increase the
level just a hair after that, too... either that or ride the
automation a bit - it seems right level-wise at the beginning
of the song, but kinda loses presence towards the middle & end.
2.) I feel like I want to hear someting "sparkly" in the chorus
sections i dunno if it might be like a delay thing on the
picked guitar bits, or a keyboard pad, but something to widen
or broaden the spectrum in those parts would be cool.

Really super-nice overall, though!

Neil




"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service. But...
>here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
very
>very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
>other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb file,
>encoded at 192.
>Thanks for the listen.
>MR
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93424 is a reply to message #93421] Fri, 07 December 2007 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Nice work man. I gave it a quick listen through. The things I heard were
something funky in the bass gtr's lower midrange, causing notes to stick out
over others... almost a ring of sorts... and a bit too much verb to direct
track percentage on the solo gtr. You could probably bump the track a few
and leave the 'wet' where it is an be good.
Nothing else really stood out except the fade out was a bit short.

AA

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>
> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
> But...
> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
> very
> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
> file,
> encoded at 192.
> Thanks for the listen.
> MR
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93426 is a reply to message #93421] Sat, 08 December 2007 03:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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What Neil and Aaron said.


"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>
> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
> But...
> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
> very
> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
> file,
> encoded at 192.
> Thanks for the listen.
> MR
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93428 is a reply to message #93421] Sat, 08 December 2007 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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nice ! great song !!!! great arrangement !!!!

pull cymbal down more on intro and down just a bit in the song

bring vocals up
bring bass and kick up

turn up and add more meat to acoustic guitar solo that starts at 2:00
turn up guitar outro
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93429 is a reply to message #93423] Sat, 08 December 2007 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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i didn't read the other reviews before i posted mine so i didn't trick myself.
you are spot on !!! great suggestions
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93430 is a reply to message #93426] Sat, 08 December 2007 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Don, did you copy homework in school too?

:-) :-) :-)
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93431 is a reply to message #93430] Sat, 08 December 2007 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:475a8a44$1@linux...
>
> Don, did you copy homework in school too?
>
> :-) :-) :-)
>
>

Regularly...hense winding up as a drummer

:-)
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93447 is a reply to message #93421] Sun, 09 December 2007 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific EQ
advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.

S


"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>
> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
> But...
> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
> very
> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
> file,
> encoded at 192.
> Thanks for the listen.
> MR
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93454 is a reply to message #93447] Sun, 09 December 2007 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
only thought about the drums at the time was something
like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").

Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol

Neil


"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would

>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking

>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
EQ
>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums

>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>
>S
>
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>
>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>> But...
>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:

>> very
>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb

>> file,
>> encoded at 192.
>> Thanks for the listen.
>> MR
>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93455 is a reply to message #93454] Sun, 09 December 2007 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
might be it???

I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
mentioned before.

Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?

Neil



"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>
>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>
>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>
>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>EQ
>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>
>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>>> But...
>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>
>>> very
>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or
any
>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>
>>> file,
>>> encoded at 192.
>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>> MR
>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93463 is a reply to message #93455] Sun, 09 December 2007 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot
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Thanks very much Neil, and John and Don, Sarah, and Aaron for all the comments.
Every bit of what you folks had to say was helpful. I'm taking a brief
break, but I'm up in the studio making many of the changes folks suggested.
As to Ron's playing, the drums tracks speak for themselves. Amazing really.
It feels like I was in the room playing with him. (And I wasn't. I'm up
in the northeast and he's somewhere in tornado alley.) In the pocket -oh
yes! Ron's playing elevated my work ten fold. I'll let him go into specifics,
but by day I'm a lowly social worker and found his rates very reasonable.
I've got lots of other stuff that I want him to play on -wish I was an oil
tycoon! Thanks again all -very much appreciated.
MR



"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>might be it???
>
>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>mentioned before.
>
>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>
>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>>
>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that

>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>
>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>EQ
>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>
>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.

>>>> But...
>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>>
>>>> very
>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or
>any
>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>
>>>> file,
>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>> MR
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93471 is a reply to message #93463] Sun, 09 December 2007 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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OK, but if you're gonna give the poor drummer credits anywhere,
you'd better at LEAST get his name right!

;)



"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks very much Neil, and John and Don, Sarah, and Aaron for all the comments.
> Every bit of what you folks had to say was helpful. I'm taking a brief
>break, but I'm up in the studio making many of the changes folks suggested.
> As to Ron's playing, the drums tracks speak for themselves. Amazing really.
> It feels like I was in the room playing with him. (And I wasn't. I'm up
>in the northeast and he's somewhere in tornado alley.) In the pocket -oh
>yes! Ron's playing elevated my work ten fold. I'll let him go into specifics,
>but by day I'm a lowly social worker and found his rates very reasonable.
> I've got lots of other stuff that I want him to play on -wish I was an
oil
>tycoon! Thanks again all -very much appreciated.
>MR
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>>
>>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>>might be it???
>>
>>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>>mentioned before.
>>
>>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>>
>>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>>>
>>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>
>>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>>
>>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>>EQ
>>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>>
>>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>>
>>>>S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>
>>>>> But...
>>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>>>
>>>>> very
>>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or
>>any
>>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>>
>>>>> file,
>>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>>> MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93478 is a reply to message #93471] Sun, 09 December 2007 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot
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SHHHH*****tttt!
forgive me Rod.
i meant Rod.
MR



"Neil" <OIOI@OI.com> wrote:
>
>OK, but if you're gonna give the poor drummer credits anywhere,
>you'd better at LEAST get his name right!
>
>;)
>
>
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks very much Neil, and John and Don, Sarah, and Aaron for all the comments.
>> Every bit of what you folks had to say was helpful. I'm taking a brief
>>break, but I'm up in the studio making many of the changes folks suggested.
>> As to Ron's playing, the drums tracks speak for themselves. Amazing really.
>> It feels like I was in the room playing with him. (And I wasn't. I'm up
>>in the northeast and he's somewhere in tornado alley.) In the pocket -oh
>>yes! Ron's playing elevated my work ten fold. I'll let him go into specifics,
>>but by day I'm a lowly social worker and found his rates very reasonable.
>> I've got lots of other stuff that I want him to play on -wish I was an
>oil
>>tycoon! Thanks again all -very much appreciated.
>>MR
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>>>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>>>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>>>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>>>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>>>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>>>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>>>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>>>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>>>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>>>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>>>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>>>might be it???
>>>
>>>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>>>mentioned before.
>>>
>>>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>>>
>>>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely
would
>>>>
>>>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>>
>>>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>>>
>>>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>>>EQ
>>>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>>>
>>>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>>>
>>>>>S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>>
>>>>>> But...
>>>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>>>>
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix,
or
>>>any
>>>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>>>
>>>>>> file,
>>>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>>>> MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93482 is a reply to message #93478] Sun, 09 December 2007 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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That's OK. I'm use to it. I get Ron and Rob alot. As long as the check will
cash, I don't really care HA! I got Todd once.
Funny but true. I was doing drums on a commercial. We were doing, of all
things, a version of "Hot Rod Lincoln". The ad guy on the session, who is
a very nice guy, and one I had known for a couple of years, said to me "Hey
Todd, that sounded great. Your Hot Todd Lincoln. Imagine if your name was
Rod, you could be Hot ROD Lincoln, wouldn't that be cool?"
Every one else in the room was SO dumfounded we didn't actually crack up.
The engineer looked at me and said "Yes Todd that would be way cool." No
one had the heart to embarrass him on the spot. I think someone told him
afterward, because the next time I saw him, he called me Rod.
I stenciled "Hot Rod Lincoln" on my cases after that.
The engineer still calls me Todd sometimes, just to be funny.
Rod
"Myk R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>SHHHH*****tttt!
>forgive me Rod.
>i meant Rod.
>MR
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIOI@OI.com> wrote:
>>
>>OK, but if you're gonna give the poor drummer credits anywhere,
>>you'd better at LEAST get his name right!
>>
>>;)
>>
>>
>>
>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks very much Neil, and John and Don, Sarah, and Aaron for all the
comments.
>>> Every bit of what you folks had to say was helpful. I'm taking a brief
>>>break, but I'm up in the studio making many of the changes folks suggested.
>>> As to Ron's playing, the drums tracks speak for themselves. Amazing
really.
>>> It feels like I was in the room playing with him. (And I wasn't. I'm
up
>>>in the northeast and he's somewhere in tornado alley.) In the pocket
-oh
>>>yes! Ron's playing elevated my work ten fold. I'll let him go into specifics,
>>>but by day I'm a lowly social worker and found his rates very reasonable.
>>> I've got lots of other stuff that I want him to play on -wish I was an
>>oil
>>>tycoon! Thanks again all -very much appreciated.
>>>MR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>>>>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>>>>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>>>>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>>>>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>>>>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>>>>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>>>>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>>>>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>>>>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>>>>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>>>>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>>>>might be it???
>>>>
>>>>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>>>>mentioned before.
>>>>
>>>>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>>>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>>>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>>>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>>>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>>>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>>>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>>>>
>>>>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>>>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely
>would
>>>>>
>>>>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>>>
>>>>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>>>>
>>>>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>>>>EQ
>>>>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>>>>
>>>>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>>>
>>>>>>> But...
>>>>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the
drums:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix,
>or
>>>>any
>>>>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>>>>
>>>>>>> file,
>>>>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93483 is a reply to message #93455] Sun, 09 December 2007 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Neil, Thanks for the props. What's your email?
Rod
"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>might be it???
>
>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>mentioned before.
>
>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>
>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>>
>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that

>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>
>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>EQ
>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>
>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.

>>>> But...
>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>>
>>>> very
>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or
>any
>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>
>>>> file,
>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>> MR
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93484 is a reply to message #93483] Sun, 09 December 2007 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
It's: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Neil, Thanks for the props. What's your email?
>Rod
>"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>>
>>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>>might be it???
>>
>>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>>mentioned before.
>>
>>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>>
>>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>>>
>>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>
>>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>>
>>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>>EQ
>>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>>
>>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>>
>>>>S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>
>>>>> But...
>>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>>>
>>>>> very
>>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or
>>any
>>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>>
>>>>> file,
>>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>>> MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93485 is a reply to message #93447] Sun, 09 December 2007 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
That's Mr. Snortyhorse to you..................



just kidding. ;-)
Thanks for the props on the drumming. As to the tom eq comments, I think
the toms were as I gave them to Mike, which is my "Close but not too tweaked"
setting. I'm pretty sure Mike didn't do any additional eq to them. I usually
cut a little more in the 250-300 range and maybe a hi pass filter around
100 when I mix, which would be in the area of what I think your hearing.
For some reason, on this mix, I didn't hear them being boomy. I could see
doing that though.
Rod
I guess I'm saying your not totally off base,




"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would

>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking

>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
EQ
>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums

>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>
>S
>
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>
>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>> But...
>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:

>> very
>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb

>> file,
>> encoded at 192.
>> Thanks for the listen.
>> MR
>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93489 is a reply to message #93484] Sun, 09 December 2007 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
cool, I just emailed you
Rod
Neil" <IOI@OI.com> wrote:
>
>It's: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Neil, Thanks for the props. What's your email?
>>Rod
>>"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>>>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>>>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>>>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>>>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>>>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>>>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>>>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>>>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>>>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>>>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>>>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>>>might be it???
>>>
>>>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>>>mentioned before.
>>>
>>>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>>>
>>>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely
would
>>>>
>>>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>>
>>>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>>>
>>>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>>>EQ
>>>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>>>
>>>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>>>
>>>>>S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>>
>>>>>> But...
>>>>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>>>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>>>>
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix,
or
>>>any
>>>>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>>>>
>>>>>> file,
>>>>>> encoded at 192.
>>>>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>>>>> MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93506 is a reply to message #93421] Mon, 10 December 2007 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
Nice groove Mike, nice punchy mix, drums sound great Rod, love the sound of
the toms, but I too think the vocals could come up a bit relative to the
overall mix. I think I hear a leslie in there somewhere. It sounds nice. I'd
like to hear more of the keys, swelling at times maybe and panning back and
forth. Overall great sound.

Rich

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>
> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
But...
> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
very
> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
file,
> encoded at 192.
> Thanks for the listen.
> MR
Re: Any thoughts on this Paris Mix? [message #93507 is a reply to message #93485] Tue, 11 December 2007 00:35 Go to previous message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
Senior Member
I think mainly what was bothering me was the vocal getting crowded there,
but I do tend to like to hear more of the overtones in the toms, the "ring"
if you will. I probably like the drums a little noisier than most people,
though, which could explain my being partially off base. :)

S


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:475ca6bf$1@linux...
>
> That's Mr. Snortyhorse to you..................
>
>
>
> just kidding. ;-)
> Thanks for the props on the drumming. As to the tom eq comments, I think
> the toms were as I gave them to Mike, which is my "Close but not too
> tweaked"
> setting. I'm pretty sure Mike didn't do any additional eq to them. I
> usually
> cut a little more in the 250-300 range and maybe a hi pass filter around
> 100 when I mix, which would be in the area of what I think your hearing.
> For some reason, on this mix, I didn't hear them being boomy. I could see
> doing that though.
> Rod
> I guess I'm saying your not totally off base,
>
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>
>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that
>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>
>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
> EQ
>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>
>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.
>>> But...
>>> here's a link to a new tune: http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~nq4nay
>>> Just finished this mix, its a rough master. Mr. Lincoln did the drums:
>
>>> very
>>> very fine. I'd be interested in any and all feedback on the mix, or any
>>> other aspect of the song. I'm pretty tough skinned. Its about a 3.6mb
>
>>> file,
>>> encoded at 192.
>>> Thanks for the listen.
>>> MR
>>
>>
>
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