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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59351 is a reply to message #59348] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 06:30   |
Cujjo
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o Recording.org's acoustic's forum and
asking the same thing with a little more detail
Don
"Dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> has anyone used this for studio insulation? I need to insulate an area
> approx.
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> 16' by 3' that has no insulation, and someone suggested using this. I'm
> hoping
> to cut down on the occasional low-end rumble of big trucks driving by.
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> DaleRoom acoustics and soundproofing are a couple of huge cans of worms.
Here are a couple of good resources:
http://www.studiotips.com/
http://www.johnlsayers.com/
Also, check out http://insulationworld.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=631
This is 8 lb./cubic foot mineral board, like the stuff Auralex sells,
but for about half the price.
Good luck!
Gantt
Dale wrote:
> has anyone used this for studio insulation? I need to insulate an area approx.
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> 16' by 3' that has no insulation, and someone suggested using this. I'm hoping
> to cut down on the occasional low-end rumble of big trucks driving by.
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Hi,
I used Roxul <www.roxul.com> safe&sound. it is accoustically rated
(somewhat), fire retardant and has worked excellently....and you can get
it a home depot...
jef
Dale wrote:
>has anyone used this for studio insulation? I need to insulate an area approx.
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>16' by 3' that has no insulation, and someone suggested using this. I'm hoping
>to cut down on the occasional low-end rumble of big trucks driving by.
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>Dale
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Hi,<br>
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I used <a href="www.roxul.com">Roxul</a> safe&sound. it is
accoustically rated (somewhat), fire retardant and has worked
excellently....and you can get it a home depot...<br>
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jef<br>
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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59355 is a reply to message #59351] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 07:20 |
Don Nafe
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enough power to proberly render the lows, get an akg or sennheiser mic
on it, and let'r rip!
I just bought a Vai axe myself, the chrome one (seein' as how my band's
called chrome..hehehe..), very nice alternative to my gold js2000. With
that axe you should get some nice crunch.
jef
James McCloskey wrote:
>I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I was wondering
>if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for recording?
> I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube. I've
>been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>
>I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would like to
>have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same kind
>of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task? I'll
>be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly doing
>Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>
>I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded vary
>good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model Ibanez
>I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT 40 C
>(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's the
>extent of my Guitar gear.
>
>There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that I'm a
>drummer it's a little tuff to figure out how to get good, usable guitar sound
>on a $600.00 budget.
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>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>James
>
>
>I agree with the guys.....kinda cool visual ref, but no magic bullet...
jef
DJ wrote:
>Ya know........I'm getting fairly busy with mastering projects here. Just
>'fer grins, I bought the Har Bal program. I don't think it is something that
>is a magic bullet and will be a substitute for the hard work it takes to get
>a good mix done. Not by any stretch, but I have been applying it to some
>files that I previously mastered that I was 90% happy with and I have taken
>these to around the 98% level. Since the last 2% will never be possible for
>me (because this is the area where I second guess myself and every other
>mastering job I've ever heard), I'm thinking this program can be an
>extremely useful tool. I've only tried it with a couple of songs so far and
>the results are subtle, but definitely a positive step.
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hahaha....why didn't I think of that?!
well, as we say around here, "I am so smart, I am so smart..s.m.r.t..."
jef
Carl Amburn wrote:
>You can build them yourself. Just go to your local electronic supply (not
>radio shack), get some 10 pin and 16 pin connectors, some ribbon cable, and
>crimp away. Probably cost you fifty cents.
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>-Carl
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>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
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>>hey,
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>>do any of you have 2 spare jumpers for the eds1000 card that you could
>>sell me? these are the little ones that connect the cards together.
>>Mine, for some reason, are flakey.
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>>jef
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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59364 is a reply to message #59355] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 08:19 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I was
>
>>>>wondering
>>>>if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for
>>>>recording?
>>>> I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube.
>
>>>> I've
>>>>been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would like
>to
>>>>have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same
>
>>>>kind
>>>>of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task?
I'll
>>>>be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly
>
>>>>doing
>>>>Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>>>>
>>>>I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded
>
>>>>vary
>>>>good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model Ibanez
>>>>I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT 40
>C
>>>>(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's
>the
>>>>extent of my Guitar gear.
>>>>
>>>>There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that I'm
>a
>>>>drummer it's a little tuff to figure out how to get good, usable guitar
>
>>>>sound
>>>>on a $600.00 budget.
>>>>
>>>>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
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>>
>I would love to get a good sounding tube amp, but the lack of versatility
and cost are the issues. On a low budget, what would you guys recommend
for a Tube amp for recording?
Back to the box, what about the Johnson J-Station?
Thanks again!
James
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I will probably pick up a used Gibson Les Paul or a new Epiphone Les Paul
>when I have extra cash. Maybe an SG???
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>Seems like the guitar itself may not be the right choice.
>>Why not something classic that has been played in many genres?
>>A real strat or Les Paul or even perhaps a Tele with u humbucker in the
>bridge.
>>Add that to a small tube amp of sorts, like a fender champ.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>re: Amplitube...I can only say that this little plug in helped make the
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>>>guitars on my last mixing project...none of the stock presets were of
much
>>
>>>help but with very little effort I was able to get some pretty serious
>
>>>sounds from fairly bland tracks
>>>
>>>YMMV of course
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:51chl11q6rcta5mho90681a70hrgd0ualn@4ax.com...
>>>> guitar rig is pretty cool especially if you run the signal
>>>> through external gear and di's before you record.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Oct 2005 14:47:20 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I
was
>>
>>>>>wondering
>>>>>if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for
>
>>>>>recording?
>>>>> I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube.
>>
>>>>> I've
>>>>>been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would like
>>to
>>>>>have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same
>>
>>>>>kind
>>>>>of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task?
>I'll
>>>>>be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly
>>
>>>>>doing
>>>>>Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded
>>
>>>>>vary
>>>>>good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model Ibanez
>>>>>I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT
40
>>C
>>>>>(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's
>>the
>>>>>extent of my Guitar gear.
>>>>>
>>>>>There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that I'm
>>a
>>>>>drummer it's a little tuff to figure out how to get good, usable guitar
>>
>>>>>sound
>>>>>on a $600.00 budget.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59368 is a reply to message #59351] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 08:53 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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get="_blank">mattjbarber.nopspam@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>I have been out of the country for the past 6 months in the UK with other
>>work and will be doing some studio upgrades when I get back at the end
of
>>the month. One will be a new comp for PARIS that will also give the most
>>options still in another year or so (i.e. backup for another DAW, VSTi,
>etc...)
>>I do mostly indie and demo stuff around Nashville so PARIS is still my
thing
>>for tracking and mixing to 2bus. I have read the other threads and see
>that
>>Kim you got one of these MB's upon Chris's recomendation. Is it still stable
>>for you? Other recomends ASUS A7V8x or A7N8X though I know also now a
bit
>>dated now. My PARIS was still stable after 3 or so years on my 1.3 athlon
>>tb but yes it is time to catch up a bit.
>>
>>3 EDS (will be adding a 4th)
>>2 MEC
>Scott at ADK gave a push for the A8V (OOPS) Deluxe....any comments???
Thanks,
Matt
"thesandbox" <mattjbarber.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I know these are discontinued but I am in the UK for another week and there
>are some store here online that have them in stock and only ship to the
UK
>
>"thesandbox" <mattjbarber.nopspam@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>I have been out of the country for the past 6 months in the UK with other
>>work and will be doing some studio upgrades when I get back at the end
of
>>the month. One will be a new comp for PARIS that will also give the most
>>options still in another year or so (i.e. backup for another DAW, VSTi,
>etc...)
>>I do mostly indie and demo stuff around Nashville so PARIS is still my
thing
>>for tracking and mixing to 2bus. I have read the other threads and see
>that
>>Kim you got one of these MB's upon Chris's recomendation. Is it still stable
>>for you? Other recomends ASUS A7V8x or A7N8X though I know also now a
bit
>>dated now. My PARIS was still stable after 3 or so years on my 1.3 athlon
>>tb but yes it is time to catch up a bit.
>>
>>3 EDS (will be adding a 4th)
>>2 MEC
>Hi James,
It starts with a good guitar, well setup. Your Ibanez can be setup to
sound good, and a new guitar will need the same thing too.
You can get away with murder live, but when recording, a bad setup
will become quickly and painfully obvious.
Setup is getting the neck straight, checking and maybe dressing
the frets, dialing in the intonation, setting the nut height, setting the
PU height. These things will make a huge difference. Get a pro
to do this for you. It is worth the 50 bucks or so.
Get a *good* tuner. this is vital. I use a Peterson V-Sam.
http://www.petersontuners.com/products/modelvsam/index.cfm
It also has a nice metronome in it. They also have a software tuner
that I was a beta tester for. Works really well.
http://www.strobosoft.com/
Peterson offers a sweetened tuning for guitar that really works.
Once your guitar sound terrific, then you can record it.
I hate Pod's and J-Stations. I hate modelors in general, but they
do a lot better with a nice preamp in front of them.
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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59369 is a reply to message #59368] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 09:28 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
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The preamp
buffers the signal (the modeling people don't pay much attention
to analog circuit design) and warms it up.
I have used a Matchless Hot Box for a front end, (on clean only)
and it doubled the tone quality of a modeler. They are NLA, but the
Bad Cat 2-Tone is very similar.
http://www.badcatamps.com/pedals.asp
I've also used a Barber Tone Press as a front end for modelers and
it works well too.
http://www.barberelectronics.com/tonepress.htm
The M-Audio Black Box is derived from the Roger Linn Adrenalinn.
I fippin' *love* the Adrenalinn. Really cool sounds and very decent
models.
Check out the demos
http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/
Here's where all of the boxes fall apart though. Power guitar that is
central to the tune. You *must* have an amp for that. Heavy,
powerful chords and killer lead tone are still best from an amp, and
the best way to do this is with a great low-power amp.
I got one of these:
http://www.thdelectronics.com/products/univalve.htm
Pick your output and input tubes. With an EL34 on the output it
puts out 15 watts and through a 4x12 you can play all day and
not go deaf. Sounds like a huge stack. Really cool and really
recordable. Mic it up with 2 mics, play with the spacing, and you
are rocking.
DC
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I was
wondering
>if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for recording?
> I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube. I've
>been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>
>I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would like
to
>have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same kind
>of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task? I'll
>be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly doing
>Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>
>I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded
vary
>good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model Ibanez
>I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT 40 C
>(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's the
>extent of my Guitar gear.
>
>There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that I'm a
>drummer it's a little tuff to figure out how to get good, usable guitar
sound
>on a $600.00 budget.
>
>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>James
>Paris seemed to work great on a K8NS Ultra for me. It was a build for a friend's
cubase rig. I did test Paris on it...up to 128 tracks, with some edits, but
no plugs. and then uninstalled and did the cubase thing.
It seemed to be fine.
rod
"thesandbox" <mattjbarber.nopspam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I have been out of the country for the past 6 months in the UK with other
>work and will be doing some studio upgrades when I get back at the end of
>the month. One will be a new comp for PARIS that will also give the most
>options still in another year or so (i.e. backup for another DAW, VSTi,
etc...)
>I do mostly indie and demo stuff around Nashville so PARIS is still my thing
>for tracking and mixing to 2bus. I have read the other threads and see
that
>Kim you got one of these MB's upon Chris's recomendation. Is it still stable
>for you? Other recomends ASUS A7V8x or A7N8X though I know also now a bit
>dated now. My PARIS was still stable after 3 or so years on my 1.3 athlon
>tb but yes it is time to catch up a bit.
>
>3 EDS (will be adding a 4th)
>2 MECI use extra sheets of drywall on the outside
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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59373 is a reply to message #59342] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 11:35 |
DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
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* Disable Write Behind Caching: Device Manager / Performance / File
System / Troubleshooting tab / check Disable write-behind caching for
all drives.
* Network server performance profile: Device Manager / Performance /
File System / Typical Role "Network Server"
* Auto Insert Notification: Device Manager / CD-ROM/Properties,
un-check 'Auto insert notification'. Attention: Some CD-ROM burn
programs activate the notification automatically when they are started,
without telling you this.
* Turn off clock: Right click taskbar, Properties / un-check Show Clock
on the Taskbar Options tab.
* Disable AntiVirus AutoScan: Disable / don't install any software
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when you're not using PARIS.
* IDE Drivers. Make sure the correct IDE drivers are loaded. Under the
device manager, look under Hard Drives. If your hard drive is listed by
brand name, you are good. If it is listed as "Generic", you need to load
the proper drivers.
* Msconfig.exe can be used to minimize what is loaded at startup.
Desktop Properties
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* De-activate Screen Saver: Right click desktop, Properties, Screen
Saver, 'None'.
* Remove Wallpapers: Right click Desktop. Properties, Background tab,
select "none"
* Animation Desktop, right mouse click, Properties, Effects, un-check
'Animate windows, menus and lists'.
Control Pane
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* De-activate Power management. Control Panel / Power Management /
power scheme 'Always on'. Set 'System Standby' and 'Turn off hard disks'
to 'Never'. Set monitor to anything.
* Disable System sounds. Control Panel / Sounds, choose scheme 'No sounds'.
* Exit Task scheduler. Start the program with a double click, choose
'Exit Task scheduler' under Options, and its gone or check msconfig startup
Open your registry and find the key below. There should be a value
named 'SchedulingAgent' which is set to equal 'mstask.exe',
this is the entry that loads the Task Scheduler. Delete this value to
stop the task manager loading again.
Settings:
Key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersio n\
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Value Name: SchedulingAgent
Data Type: REG_SZ (String Value)
Value Data: mstask.exe
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Little crap
* Logitech mouse software, turn off Tray Icon, Set Keyboard, mouse
properties
* ADD Windows media player to allow Native Plugins to work in Paris
* install Tweakui, * Command Prompt Here
* network auto logon
* TaskBar, small icons
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Set manual punch long on Paris Project Settings menu
Keep the AUDIO window and any other windows you don't need open CLOSED
to save CPU and RESOURCES
Check Your Free Disk Space
If the free space on a hard disk falls to below 10% of the size of the
drive or 100 MB (whichever is smaller), performance slows to an absolute
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does impact your system more than what most people realise because of
multiple factors.....read on.
Delete all TMP files (temporary files)
Temp files are where the computer places information temporarily while
it writes that information to disk or waits for you to tell it where
that information is to go. What happens if you have heaps of TMP files
in your computer is that the computer goes to create the 00001.TMP file
and that name is already taken up by another file so it then tries to
use 00002.TMP file and if that one exsists I'm sure you can guess what
then happens....All this wastes both a computers time and power...
Start > F
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| Re: Good guitar sound on a budget??? Help! [message #59382 is a reply to message #59373] |
Fri, 21 October 2005 18:40 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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>> Here's where all of the boxes fall apart though. Power guitar that is
>> central to the tune. You *must* have an amp for that. Heavy,
>> powerful chords and killer lead tone are still best from an amp, and
>> the best way to do this is with a great low-power amp.
>>
>> I got one of these:
>>
>> http://www.thdelectronics.com/products/univalve.htm
>>
>> Pick your output and input tubes. With an EL34 on the output it
>> puts out 15 watts and through a 4x12 you can play all day and
>> not go deaf. Sounds like a huge stack. Really cool and really
>> recordable. Mic it up with 2 mics, play with the spacing, and you
>> are rocking.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I was
>> wondering
>> >if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for
>recording?
>> > I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube.
>I've
>> >been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>> >
>> >I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would like
>> to
>> >have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same
>kind
>> >of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task?
I'll
>> >be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly
>doing
>> >Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>> >
>> >I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded
>> vary
>> >good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model Ibanez
>> >I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT 40
C
>> >(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's
the
>> >extent of my Guitar gear.
>> >
>> >There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that I'm
a
>> >drummer it's a little tuff to figure out how to get good, usable guitar
>> sound
>> >on a $600.00 budget.
>> >
>> >Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >James
>> >
>>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I would love to get a good sounding tube amp, but the lack of versatility
>and cost are the issues. On a low budget, what would you guys recommend
>for a Tube amp for recording?
THD Univalves are about 900.00 USD but I have seen them in
the 600.00's on Ebay. I don't know what your version of a
low budget is, but that is about as cheap as great tube amps get
these days. You can change the preamp and output tubes around
and get very different tones. Both the clean and the dirty tones
are stellar. You will need a speaker cabinet.
>Back to the box, what about the Johnson J-Station?
I did not care for it. YMMV.
Just to put some perspective into all this...
I had to remix an old track I did with a Sansamp years ago,
and I was able to get a pretty decent tone out of it. Surprised me.
It still sounds good. In reality, it is much more a great guitar and
a great engineer that makes this stuff sound good. As soon as
someone sez "you gotta have-a yadda yadda" someone does a
great track with a box. It's vision in how you use the gear that
really matters. Great playing helps too... snork...
If I was buying something on a budget, I would look *real* hard at
the Adrenalinn II or the Black Box version of it. Get your guitar
setup and dialed in, then take it to the store and have them plug
the box into studio monitors. Chase the wankers away and play it
for a while. Go one a Tuesday morning when the store is empty.
I really like the Adrenalinn. You may too.
DC
>
>James
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I will probably pick up a used Gibson Les Paul or a new Epiphone Les Paul
>>when I have extra cash. Maybe an SG???
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Seems like the guitar itself may not be the right choice.
>>>Why not something classic that has been played in many genres?
>>>A real strat or Les Paul or even perhaps a Tele with u humbucker in the
>>bridge.
>>>Add that to a small tube amp of sorts, like a fender champ.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>re: Amplitube...I can only say that this little plug in helped make the
>>>
>>>>guitars on my last mixing project...none of the stock presets were of
>much
>>>
>>>>help but with very little effort I was able to get some pretty serious
>>
>>>>sounds from fairly bland tracks
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>>>>YMMV of course
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:51chl11q6rcta5mho90681a70hrgd0ualn@4ax.com...
>>>>> guitar rig is pretty cool especially if you run the signal
>>>>> through external gear and di's before you record.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Oct 2005 14:47:20 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I
>was
>>>
>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for
>>
>>>>>>recording?
>>>>>> I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube.
>>>
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would
like
>>>to
>>>>>>have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same
>>>
>>>>>>kind
>>>>>>of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task?
>
>>I'll
>>>>>>be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly
>>>
>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded
>>>
>>>>>>vary
>>>>>>good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model
Ibanez
>>>>>>I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT
>40
>>>C
>>>>>>(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's
>>>the
>>>>>>extent of my Guitar gear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that
I'm
>>>a
>>>>>>drummer it's a little tuff to figure out how to get good, usable guitar
>>>
>>>>>>sound
>>>>>>on a $600.00 budget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I'm using the A7V8X-LAN with good results here, but yes, it's a dinosaur.
Max CPU is XP 3200 (I'm using XP 2800) If you're using 4 x EDS cards with
this mobo, you will need a PCI expansion chassis as Slot 2 and 6 are hard
wired to share IRQ with the AGP. I don't use DX or VST plugins for mixing in
Paris any more so CPU cycles for plugins aren't a critical issue for me. the
A7V8X is very stable with 3 x EDS cards a Matrox G450 AGP and a Matrox G450
PCI.
Deej
"thesandbox" <mattjbarber.nopspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43590914$1@linux...
>
> I have been out of the country for the past 6 months in the UK with other
> work and will be doing some studio upgrades when I get back at the end of
> the month. One will be a new comp for PARIS that will also give the most
> options still in another year or so (i.e. backup for another DAW, VSTi,
etc...)
> I do mostly indie and demo stuff around Nashville so PARIS is still my
thing
> for tracking and mixing to 2bus. I have read the other threads and see
that
> Kim you got one of these MB's upon Chris's recomendation. Is it still
stable
> for you? Other recomends ASUS A7V8x or A7N8X though I know also now a bit
> dated now. My PARIS was still stable after 3 or so years on my 1.3 athlon
> tb but yes it is time to catch up a bit.
>
> 3 EDS (will be adding a 4th)
> 2 MEC"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>Should we dredge up the old group-getting-together-to-buy-Paris-from-ID
>thing again? ;-)
>
>-Doug (It was a JOKE!!!)
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
Hey, where's that OSX driver; )
Just kidding!
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> "Casey Pechet" <cpechet@cascade-media.com> wrote:
>>>Legal expenses will probably far outweigh any benefits that accrue to
>>>those
>>>who participate in the action.
>>
>> My thoughts, too.
>
>I bet I suck better. :-)
DC wrote:
> Yeah, I've been hiting the suck knob pretty hard today...
>
> And this one goes to 11 !!
>
> DC
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>>I've been getting into my Lexicon Signature 284 lately. Some great things
>>can be accomplished with this. I've got the Lexi stereo cab for it and I've
>>got a NADY RSM32 on one cone and an SM57 on the other. Both mics are being
>>fed into a Demeter VTMP-2a. Also I'm simultaneously running the DI's of
>
> the
>
>>Lexi and my POD XT Pro into Paris by splitting my guitar output through
>
> a
>
>>Radial Switchbone and feeding it to the Lexi and the POD XT
>>Pro.........sooooo.......in true Mr. Simplicity
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Fri, 21 October 2005 19:50 |
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fashion, I'm recording the
>>output of my guitar on 6 x tracks simultaneously.
>>
>>Now, I just need to get my chops back, because, quite frankly, I'm so rusty
>>I suck.......so this configuration I call *Suck x 6*
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@wedontneednosteenkingspammers.org> wrote in message
>>news:435934e3$1@linux...
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>>>Hi James,
>>>
>>>It starts with a good guitar, well setup. Your Ibanez can be setup to
>>>sound good, and a new guitar will need the same thing too.
>>>You can get away with murder live, but when recording, a bad setup
>>>will become quickly and painfully obvious.
>>>
>>>Setup is getting the neck straight, checking and maybe dressing
>>>the frets, dialing in the intonation, setting the nut height, setting
>
> the
>
>>>PU height. These things will make a huge difference. Get a pro
>>>to do this for you. It is worth the 50 bucks or so.
>>>
>>>Get a *good* tuner. this is vital. I use a Peterson V-Sam.
>>>
>>>http://www.petersontuners.com/products/modelvsam/index.cfm
>>>
>>>It also has a nice metronome in it. They also have a software tuner
>>>that I was a beta tester for. Works really well.
>>>
>>>http://www.strobosoft.com/
>>>
>>>Peterson offers a sweetened tuning for guitar that really works.
>>>
>>>Once your guitar sound terrific, then you can record it.
>>>
>>>I hate Pod's and J-Stations. I hate modelors in general, but they
>>>do a lot better with a nice preamp in front of them. The preamp
>>>buffers the signal (the modeling people don't pay much attention
>>>to analog circuit design) and warms it up.
>>>
>>>I have used a Matchless Hot Box for a front end, (on clean only)
>>>and it doubled the tone quality of a modeler. They are NLA, but the
>>>Bad Cat 2-Tone is very similar.
>>>
>>>http://www.badcatamps.com/pedals.asp
>>>
>>>I've also used a Barber Tone Press as a front end for modelers and
>>>it works well too.
>>>
>>>http://www.barberelectronics.com/tonepress.htm
>>>
>>>The M-Audio Black Box is derived from the Roger Linn Adrenalinn.
>>>
>>>I fippin' *love* the Adrenalinn. Really cool sounds and very decent
>>>models.
>>>
>>>Check out the demos
>>>
>>>http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/
>>>
>>>Here's where all of the boxes fall apart though. Power guitar that is
>>>central to the tune. You *must* have an amp for that. Heavy,
>>>powerful chords and killer lead tone are still best from an amp, and
>>>the best way to do this is with a great low-power amp.
>>>
>>>I got one of these:
>>>
>>>http://www.thdelectronics.com/products/univalve.htm
>>>
>>>Pick your output and input tubes. With an EL34 on the output it
>>>puts out 15 watts and through a 4x12 you can play all day and
>>>not go deaf. Sounds like a huge stack. Really cool and really
>>>recordable. Mic it up with 2 mics, play with the spacing, and you
>>>are rocking.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm looking at the Waves GTR or M-Audio Black box for recording. I was
>>>
>>>wondering
>>>
>>>>if anybody has any opinions on either of these Guitar Processors for
>>
>>recording?
>>
>>>>I'm also considering Guitar rig and the latest version of Amplitube.
>>
>>I've
>>
>>>>been told the POD and Amplitube suck??? Opinions???
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking to get usable guitar productions (good tone). I would like
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>have some versatility as opposed to a one trick pony amp, for the same
>>
>>kind
>>
>>>>of money. So the question is, is any of this stuff up to the task?
>
> I'll
>
>>>>be mainly recording rhythm guitar with occasional noodleing. Mainly
>>
>>doing
>>
>>>>Rock, Heavy Rock, a bit of metal, Country and Pop.
>>>>
>>>>I've owned Guitar effect processors ten years ago, none of them sounded
>>>
>>>vary
>>>
>>>>good to me. I sold everything off. I have a new Steve Vai model Ibanez
>>>>I picked up from a friend. I have a SansAmp GT 2, and old Crate GT 40
>
> C
>
>>>>(Cheap sounding amp), Nigel plugin from UA, and a direct box. That's
>
> the
>
>>>>extent of my Guitar gear.
>>>>
>>>>There are so many new guitar processors out there now. Being that I'm
>
> a
>
>>>>drummer it's a litt
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t we can't get things working we'll switch
back to the "known working" unit for a bit till we sort the problem, so outages
should be in the realm of under an hour.
But there may be brief outages from time to time over the next few weeks,
as there have been today. Just letting you know. I'll no doubt inform you
again nearer the time I'm actually moving house.
Cheers,
Kim.low end rumble is most likely coming through the floor if you're on
ground level.
On 21 Oct 2005 18:56:31 +1000, "Dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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>has anyone used this for studio insulation? I need to insulate an area approx.
>
>16' by 3' that has no insulation, and someone suggested using this. I'm hoping
>to cut down on the occasional low-end rumble of big trucks driving by.
>
>Dale"DC" <dc@steeningspammers.org> wrote:
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>I really hate it.
>
>Ever try to record your own stuff with no help?
Hehe. Yeh sure! Do it all the time! In fact that's what I enjoy most, and
do most with Paris! I suppose it depends on your approach, I guess, or something.
I'm fully adapted to the idea of "right, hit go, get it right, if you stuff
it up do it again from the start". And I'm used to doing things one verse
at a time or whatever as required, so you just need to get the verse right,
not the whole song. I find I like the pressure of having to nail something
though. Of course things become near impossible if I have just a single stuff
up in the best solo over. Basically you move the solo to a spare track, record
the however-many notes to replace the bad bit, then try and merge the two.
I find it less frustrating than dealing with other musos much of the time
though. ;o)
I guess things are somewhat different though for me dealing with pleb rock
bands than recording the relative perfection of classical musos as I know
you often do. I still have that CD you sent me somewhere of the organ...
must dig it out for another listen.
Cheers,
Kim.Officially only version 3 is supported on XP by "Skunkworks". That said,
there's probably little actual support now for XP anyhow, and version 2.2
actually worked fine while I was using it on XP. I'd opt for 3 simply for
universal compatibility though, and the new features.
Installing both is simple. Simple install one, then install the other. Ignore
any warning to uninstall. The only other complication is that you have to
install the MinimumSetup (effects subsystem) update twice, once for each
install, and make sure you get the path correct for each. Having done that
though you're done. There are no other tricks.
Pace never actually caused me any trouble, though I do bypass it now just
to be sure. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hi there..I have been using 2.2 for several years...Which runs the best
on
>XP,2.2 or 3.0 ? Also,exactly how do you install 3.0 if you want to run BOTH
>versions?(I have been scared of the dreaded PACE issues) thanks for any
>help....
>
>Wormhole is sort of an interprogram Senderella?
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Hello to everyone.
>You all know here my humble efforts to push Paris a little bit to the future...
>What is though lacking is the kind of support from most of us here...
>An example to what I mean is wormhole.
>This kind guy -author- of wormhole has made too many efforts to make wormhole
>work better with Paris.
>But...things have stopeed somehow because noone except from me and Genne
>Lennon I guess , has bought wormhole.
>I explained to wormhole author that he will find a great willingness of
support
>in his efforts but I was wrong...
>How can we all expect Paris to grow along when we do not support those efforts
>?
>Even if you would not need for now wormhole this would open doors to newer
>appz-plugins that could make Paris a better DAW.
>How can I ask this guy to try to make an app specific for Paris like an
automated
>delay compensation (if that will be possible ,who knows) or something other
>if we here do not support these guys.
>This damn wormhole is so cheap compared to what we all paid ( and some of
>you much more) to have our Paris system .
>Only if I see "named" responses that will confirm bying wormhole and we
must
>gather quite a few here then only I will get in touch again and somehow
"demand"
>Paris support with wormhole and other things.
>I am considering rebuying wormhole to add me first on that list...
>So please show in this forum that we wanna keep Paris alive spending some
>extra little money ( afew Pizzas less for a coupl e of weekends) starting
>with wormhole...
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>ps: If someone else too has already bought Paris ,my humble apologies to
>him, but I will need his name to add it on the list I will send to wormhole
>authorJohn, thanks for putting this post together.
MR
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I have a 2.4ghz Intel Celeron box with Video on the MB, Asus MX800 i
>think. Should I run Paris in 16 bit or 32 bit color? Is there a way to
>test which is better?
>
>Below is my current list of optimizations. Let me know if anything
>looks wrong please. Thanks
>John
>
>Paris.cfg
>---------------
>
>*** PARIS Configuration ***
>
>*** ENGINE configuration parameters ***
>* Cache Size in MB
>CacheSize=128
>
>* Overview cache size in KB
>OvwCacheSize=8192
>
>* I/O configuration
>IOSize=256
>
>* SubMix Cache Size in KB
>SubMixCacheSize=256
>
>ManualRecDelay=4096
>
>RecXFadeLen=20
>Use32BitWinMTC=0
>
>DisableDirectX=0
>
>MasterOutputCard=0
>
>ScrubMaxRate=1
>
>WheelSensitivity=20
>
>WheelInertia=68
>
>CSProVersion=ABCDEFGH
>
>VSTDirectory=C:\vsts\
>
>MIDIPlayDisabled=1
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>tips
>
>* Enable / Check DMA: Control Panel / System / Device Manager for each
>hard drive and cdrom. Check that the hard drive name is shown or dl the
>right drivers.
>
>* Vcache (Disk Cache): sysedit, system.ini
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>[VCache]
>MinFileCache=16384
>MaxFileCache=16384
>
>or
>
>[VCache]
>MinFileCache=56320
>MaxFileCache=56320
>(Note: the settings are in kilobytes, 8192k = 8 megabytes. Use multiples
>of 1024)
>
>* Disable any applications that launch at boot-up by removing their
>shortcuts from your Windows/Start Menu / Programs / StartUp folder.
>
>* Win.ini: sysedit, win.ini, remove anything in LOAD or RUN l
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> ><BR>> > Hi again guys,<BR>> ><BR>> > I solved =
>the=20
> problem of getting the two Matrox G450 cards to work (AGP =
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>clone=20
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>know=20
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>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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>Why didn't you use the Matrox drivers?
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Luiz" <orspamno@gmail.com> wrote in message news:435acad4$1@linux...
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> Since I didn't use the Matrox CD to install their drivers (I just used the
> drivers provided by WindowsXP), I also don't have Matrox's Utility
> Application
> installed. If I remember correctly, I couldn't see an option to install
> just
> the utility app without installing the drivers as well. Any way of doing
> this from inside Windows? Or can I somehow install the Matrox Utility app
> (without also installing their drivers), and use that to assign the
> cloning?
>
> Luiz
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Deej and Luiz,
>>I think the matrox drivers allowed that setting?
>>One card will display to monitor A and duplicate it.
>>The other card will display to monitor B and duplicate it.
>>Whacky but it should work.
>>Tom
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>news:435aafc7@linux...
>> You are, of course, spoiling the simplicity of all of this ;o). I =
>>think that
>> it would be even more fun to actually get the same image on 4 x
>> screens.........but in the absence of this necessity, isn't there a =
>>function
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>> =
>>>1 & 2
>>> > > on monitors 3 & 4. I know this can be done using the Matrox =
>>>drivers and
>>> > > utilities
>>> > > software, but since I'm not using that due to the problems with =
>>>their
>>> > > drivers,
>>> > > I was wondering if anybody knew how to do it with the windows =
>>>drivers -
>>> or
>>> > > if it's possible.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for the help.
>>> > >
>>> > > Luiz
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej and Luiz,</FONT></DIV>
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>> =
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>>>setting?</FONT></DIV>
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>>>to monitor A and=20
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>> =
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>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whacky but it should work.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
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>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:435aafc7@linux">news:435aafc7@linux</A>...</DIV>You are,
>> =
>>>of course,=20
>>> spoiling the simplicity of all of this ;o). I think that<BR>it would =
>>>be even=20
>>> more fun to actually get the same image on 4 x<BR>screens.........but
>> =
>>>in the=20
>>> absence of this necessity, isn't there a function<BR>to to somehow do
>> =
>>>what=20
>>> he's asking? I could have sworn I saw this somewhere<BR>during one of
>> =
>>>my=20
>>> odyssies.........but I forget where it was.<BR><BR>Getting old is a=20
>>> bitch........;o)<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
>>>wrote in=20
>>> message<BR><A=20
>>> href=3D"news:435aa3f2$1@linux">news:435aa3f2$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>Get two=20
>>> active video splitters if all you want is cloning and pull out =
>>>the<BR>> PCI=20
>>> card entirely.<BR>><BR>> AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Luiz" =
>>><<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:orspamno@gmail.com">orspamno@gmail.com</A>> wrote in =
>>>message=20
>>> <A href=3D"news:435aa002$1@linux">news:435aa002$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>
>>> ><BR>> > Hi again guys,<BR>> ><BR>> > I solved =
>>>the=20
>>> problem of getting the two Matrox G450 cards to work (AGP =
>>>&<BR>> >=20
>>> PCI). Thanks Deej!<BR>> > Well, now I would like to know how to =
>>>clone=20
>>> the images of monitors 1 & 2<BR>> > on monitors 3 & 4. I =
>>>know=20
>>> this can be done using the Matrox drivers and<BR>> > =
>>>utilities<BR>>=20
>>> > software, but since I'm not using that due to the problems with=20
>>> their<BR>> > drivers,<BR>> > I was wondering if anybody =
>>>knew how=20
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Sun, 23 October 2005 06:29 |
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audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Wavelab Essential is around $99US... basically it is Wavelab
> >>>>3 repackaged. Would do a fine job for what you need.
> >>>>
> >>>>David.
> >>>>
> >>>>cujo wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Ok, Looks like Sound Forge's CD architect has the CD sequence options
> >>>
> >>>I am
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>looking for. I have read here there is a question regarding how it
sounds.
> >>>>>Can anyone using it tell me what they think?
> >>>>>What 5 am looking for is some sort of bidget mastering prog for gig
demos
> >>>>>and pre mastering refernce CD's
> >>>>>I have found it for about 200.00, wavelab runs about 500.00
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'm gett6ing set up for a guitar overdub session tomorrow. The guitarist
is
>a major, nationally recognized picker. I haven't really been given the green
>light to name names right now. The tracks will be included in a mix of a
>project that I've been working on here.
>
>Anyway, I'm going to be doing a quick test of a number of mics for this
>session. Since the room sounds good and I'm not worried about overbleed,
I'm
>considering X/Y pairs of SDC's and also mono tracking of the guitar using
>LDC's. I'm pretty stoked by thewse SE mics I've been trying out and I'm
>including them in the audition.
>
>Here are the mics and preamps:
>1. Stephen Paul U87-(Sytek)
>2. AT 4050 (Sytek)
>3. SE Titan (Sytek)
>4. SE Titan-different voicing from standard issue (Sytek)
>5. Mojave cardioid built by Mike Claytor (Great River MP2-MH)
>6. SE Gemini (Great River MP2-MH)
>7. Neumann KM184's in X/Y (Forssell JMP-6)
>8. AKG C460B-Ck-61's in X/Y (Forssell JMP-6)
>9. SE 3 in X/Y (Forssell JMP-6)
>
I like SDC mics in ORTF, with the right mic (as you face the guitar) pointed
at the 12th fret, about a foot out, and the left mic pointed sort of in the
direction of the soundhole. I haven't used the Great River (I have GML)
but understand that it is good for this type of thing.
Also, you might consider (obviously not for this project) getting the Jim
Williams (Audio Upgrades) mod for your C460s. Makes a huge improvement.Guy's, I just received notice that a song I co-wrote with Will Downing and
Travis Milliner, "All I Want for Christmas is You" has been nominated in
several categories for awards:
Song of the Year "All I Want for Christmas is You"
Record of thh Year "Christmas Love and You"
Best R&B Album "Christmas Love and You"
Best Traditional R&B vocal "Christmas Love and You"
Best R&B vocal perfomance "All I Want for Christmas is You"
Obviously, it is early on in the running, but good news none the less.
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please explain under which circumstances this plug would be useful.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:435b2ee7@linux...
Dimitros,
You said there was a particular version of Wormhole for Paris users.
Is that the latest one on their website or something different?
My goal is to have MIDI softsynths from Cubase playing back in
Paris over LAN realtime or at least less than 10 ms latency. Will =
this=20
happen without me even buying an audio card using Wormhole?
Tom
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:435a45ac@linux...
Hi Dimitrios,
I'd like to experiment with wormhole. I emailed their website the =
other=20
day to see if Paris was supported but they haven't got back to me =
yet.
jefj
Dimitrios wrote:
>Hello to everyone.
>You all know here my humble efforts to push Paris a little bit to =
the future...
>What is though lacking is the kind of support from most of us =
here...
>An example to what I mean is wormhole.
>This kind guy -author- of wormhole has made too many efforts to =
make wormhole
>work better with Paris.
>But...things have stopeed somehow because noone except from me and =
Genne
>Lennon I guess , has bought wormhole.
>I explained to wormhole author that he will find a great =
willingness of support
>in his efforts but I was wrong...
>How can we all expect Paris to grow along when we do not support =
those efforts
>?
>Even if you would not need for now wormhole this would open doors =
to newer
>appz-plugins that could make Paris a better DAW.
>How can I ask this guy to try to make an app specific for Paris =
like an automated
>delay compensation (if that will be possible ,who knows) or =
something other
>if we here do not support these guys.
>This damn wormhole is so cheap compared to what we all paid ( and =
some of
>you much more) to have our Paris system .
>Only if I see "named" responses that will confirm bying wormhole =
and we must
>gather quite a few here then only I will get in touch again and =
somehow "demand"
>Paris support with wormhole and other things.
>I am considering rebuying wormhole to add me first on that list...
>So please show in this forum that we wanna keep Paris alive =
spending some
>extra little money ( afew Pizzas less for a coupl e of weekends)
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