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| Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100983] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 08:44  |
Rod Lincoln
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I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2 different
clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at 44.1
24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I have
6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs, and
was present for the session.
I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum take
from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right speaker.
When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the noises
weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the 2nd
song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made up
some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
client B a CD and the left.
After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just seemed
really wierd.
It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last two
songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only tracking
sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than client
B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no sense.
Just thought I'd share.
Rod
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100984 is a reply to message #100983] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 10:22  |
Rod Lincoln
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Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still havn't
figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I bypassed
the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
Rod
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2 different
>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
44.1
>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I have
>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs, and
>was present for the session.
>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
take
>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right speaker.
>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
noises
>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the 2nd
>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made up
>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>client B a CD and the left.
>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just seemed
>really wierd.
>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last two
>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only tracking
>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than client
>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no sense.
>
>Just thought I'd share.
>Rod
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100985 is a reply to message #100984] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 10:27 |
Rod Lincoln
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Oh yeah...I also tried different speakers and speaker cables, so that's not
it.
Rod
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still havn't
>figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I bypassed
>the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
>makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
>Rod
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2 different
>>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
>44.1
>>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I
have
>>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs,
and
>>was present for the session.
>>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
>take
>>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right speaker.
>>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
>noises
>>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the
2nd
>>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made
up
>>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>>client B a CD and the left.
>>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just seemed
>>really wierd.
>>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last
two
>>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only tracking
>>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than client
>>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no sense.
>>
>>Just thought I'd share.
>>Rod
>>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100986 is a reply to message #100985] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 11:38 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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Well I've been working on another project for a couple of hours now...this
one at 44.1, there are NO crackles at all, so it looks like something in
the chain doesn't like 48k, or isn't really changing. That's why I unplugged
the 442, but that wasn't it. Both mecs looked like they were clocking at
48k OK.
Rod
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Oh yeah...I also tried different speakers and speaker cables, so that's
not
>it.
>Rod
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still havn't
>>figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I bypassed
>>the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
>>makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
>>Rod
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2 different
>>>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
>>44.1
>>>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I
>have
>>>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>>>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs,
>and
>>>was present for the session.
>>>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>>>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>>>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
>>take
>>>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right
speaker.
>>>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
>>noises
>>>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the
>2nd
>>>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>>>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made
>up
>>>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>>>client B a CD and the left.
>>>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>>>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>>>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just seemed
>>>really wierd.
>>>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last
>two
>>>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only tracking
>>>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than client
>>>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no sense.
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd share.
>>>Rod
>>>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100987 is a reply to message #100985] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 10:24 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Look for any tracks panned right. Reset all plug ins, I've had copy/paste
plug issues crop up at random before. Check track one on each submix, I know
there used to be some bleed issues there with auxes. Check cables,
especially word clock or digital cabling. Defrag. Clear any missing/ununsed
files off the audio list. Boost the cache up a level or two. Pull up a known
good PPJ from a previous project to verify it's the PPJ and not the
hardware. Methodical will get you there I bet.
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:49147a93$1@linux...
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> Oh yeah...I also tried different speakers and speaker cables, so that's
> not
> it.
> Rod
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still
>>havn't
>>figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I bypassed
>>the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
>>makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
>>Rod
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2
>>>different
>>>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
>>44.1
>>>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I
> have
>>>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>>>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs,
> and
>>>was present for the session.
>>>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>>>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>>>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
>>take
>>>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right
>>>speaker.
>>>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
>>noises
>>>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the
> 2nd
>>>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>>>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made
> up
>>>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>>>client B a CD and the left.
>>>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>>>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>>>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just
>>>seemed
>>>really wierd.
>>>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last
> two
>>>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only
>>>tracking
>>>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than client
>>>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no
>>>sense.
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd share.
>>>Rod
>>>
>>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100988 is a reply to message #100986] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 11:02 |
Robert
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Rod, I had a funky click problem a few years ago, clicks would move around
the editor as I would open and close the same project. Turns out it was bad
Ram, I swapped the DIMMs with others I had on hand and no more clicks. In
your case since you change the sample rate and it started then, I can't see
it being Ram though. Good luck
Hope this helps.
Rob_A
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:49148b08$1@linux...
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> Well I've been working on another project for a couple of hours now...this
> one at 44.1, there are NO crackles at all, so it looks like something in
> the chain doesn't like 48k, or isn't really changing. That's why I
> unplugged
> the 442, but that wasn't it. Both mecs looked like they were clocking at
> 48k OK.
>
> Rod
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Oh yeah...I also tried different speakers and speaker cables, so that's
> not
>>it.
>>Rod
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still
>>>havn't
>>>figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I
>>>bypassed
>>>the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
>>>makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
>>>Rod
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2
>>>>different
>>>>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
>>>44.1
>>>>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I
>>have
>>>>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>>>>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs,
>>and
>>>>was present for the session.
>>>>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>>>>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>>>>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
>>>take
>>>>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right
> speaker.
>>>>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
>>>noises
>>>>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the
>>2nd
>>>>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>>>>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made
>>up
>>>>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>>>>client B a CD and the left.
>>>>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>>>>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>>>>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just
>>>>seemed
>>>>really wierd.
>>>>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last
>>two
>>>>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only
>>>>tracking
>>>>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than
>>>>client
>>>>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no
>>>>sense.
>>>>
>>>>Just thought I'd share.
>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100989 is a reply to message #100986] |
Fri, 07 November 2008 11:14 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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Do you have an older 48k rate project to test with that's known to be good?
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:49148b08$1@linux...
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> Well I've been working on another project for a couple of hours now...this
> one at 44.1, there are NO crackles at all, so it looks like something in
> the chain doesn't like 48k, or isn't really changing. That's why I
> unplugged
> the 442, but that wasn't it. Both mecs looked like they were clocking at
> 48k OK.
>
> Rod
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Oh yeah...I also tried different speakers and speaker cables, so that's
> not
>>it.
>>Rod
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still
>>>havn't
>>>figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I
>>>bypassed
>>>the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
>>>makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
>>>Rod
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2
>>>>different
>>>>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
>>>44.1
>>>>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I
>>have
>>>>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>>>>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs,
>>and
>>>>was present for the session.
>>>>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>>>>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>>>>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
>>>take
>>>>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right
> speaker.
>>>>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
>>>noises
>>>>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the
>>2nd
>>>>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>>>>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made
>>up
>>>>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>>>>client B a CD and the left.
>>>>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>>>>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>>>>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just
>>>>seemed
>>>>really wierd.
>>>>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last
>>two
>>>>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only
>>>>tracking
>>>>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than
>>>>client
>>>>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no
>>>>sense.
>>>>
>>>>Just thought I'd share.
>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #100994 is a reply to message #100986] |
Sat, 08 November 2008 02:23 |
Erling
Messages: 156
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I think you shall have a look at the powersupply, RAM and all other
electronic parts of the motherboard. After some years use, dust can be
one of the biggest sinners on electronic parts inside a computer.
Erling
On 8 Nov 2008 05:38:00 +1000, "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.com>
wrote:
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>Well I've been working on another project for a couple of hours now...this
>one at 44.1, there are NO crackles at all, so it looks like something in
>the chain doesn't like 48k, or isn't really changing. That's why I unplugged
>the 442, but that wasn't it. Both mecs looked like they were clocking at
>48k OK.
>
>Rod
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Oh yeah...I also tried different speakers and speaker cables, so that's
>not
>>it.
>>Rod
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Never mind...the crackles are showing up on the other ppjs now. Still havn't
>>>figured out the cause. I un plugged the 442, so that wasn't it. I bypassed
>>>the Benchmark DAC-1 and wen't striaght out some Paris analog outs. still
>>>makes crackles out the right speaker, only when playing.
>>>Rod
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I had a wierd thing happen yesterday. I had drum tracks to cut for 2 different
>>>>clients, both projects were at 48k, 24 bit.(most of the work I do is at
>>>44.1
>>>>24 or 16 bit) I switched my lucid genx to 48k and rebooted to work. (I
>>have
>>>>6 eds in a magma, 2 mecs, and a 442, all clocked to the lucid)
>>>>Client A had 3 songs to do, and was not present, client B had 2 songs,
>>and
>>>>was present for the session.
>>>>I did one song for Client A, good sounds everything normal.
>>>>Client B showed up, I used the ppj from client A as a template
>>>>as I really liked the sounds I had tweaked. Playing back the first drum
>>>take
>>>>from client B, I started noticing some clicks and pops from the right
>speaker.
>>>>When I solo'd the individual tracks, they were clean. I also notice the
>>>noises
>>>>weren't in the same spot every time. I rebooted everything and did the
>>2nd
>>>>song. Same thing. Thankfully, the noises were very minor and the clients
>>>>weren't really worried about them as the tracks were clean, and I made
>>up
>>>>some technical excuse, to appear knowledgable, rendered the tracks, gave
>>>>client B a CD and the left.
>>>>After Client B left, I pulled up the next 2 songs from Client A, and did
>>>>tracks for them. NO CLICKS AT ALL. These were copied from the same ppj's
>>>>as client B. Gone, nada. I'm glad everything seems fine, but it just seemed
>>>>really wierd.
>>>>It wasn't a heat issue, as I had the computer on all day, and the last
>>two
>>>>songs had no problems. No UAD plugs were used, as these were only tracking
>>>>sessions. Client A actually had more tracks for me to play to than client
>>>>B, although both only had just a few, 3 to five tracks. It makes no sense.
>>>>
>>>>Just thought I'd share.
>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101003 is a reply to message #100986] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 13:00 |
Deej [5]
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Rod,
It's been many years since I've used Paris now, but what I might try to do
is one of two things:
1. Assuming that your default.ppj is set to 48k, switch your computer, MECs
and clock off, flip your clock back on at 48k, then switch on the MECs and
finally launch your Paris default.ppj. this may take care of the problem.
If your default.ppj is set o 44.1k, I would create another one at 48k and
use that. Mine was always set to 48k and it didn't make any difference if
the clock was set to 44.1 at bootup/initialization IIRC. Once I was initialized,
I'd just create a new project at 44.1 and everything was good.
Hope this helps,
Deej
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101004 is a reply to message #101003] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 13:13 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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Deej, thanks, for the idea. Yes, I have my default ppj set to 48k although
I almost always work at 44.1. Right now the thing that seemed to have fixed
it is re-installing the sub system, then moving the audio into a fresh ppj.
The Sub system re-install by itself didn't work, nor did moving audio to
fresh ppj's, but doing both seems to work so far. I'm in the middle of trying
to get a bunch of tracks out so I haven't had time to really get methodical
about it.
rod
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>
>Rod,
>
>It's been many years since I've used Paris now, but what I might try to
do
>is one of two things:
>
>1. Assuming that your default.ppj is set to 48k, switch your computer, MECs
>and clock off, flip your clock back on at 48k, then switch on the MECs and
>finally launch your Paris default.ppj. this may take care of the problem.
>
>If your default.ppj is set o 44.1k, I would create another one at 48k and
>use that. Mine was always set to 48k and it didn't make any difference if
>the clock was set to 44.1 at bootup/initialization IIRC. Once I was initialized,
>I'd just create a new project at 44.1 and everything was good.
>
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Deej
>
>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101005 is a reply to message #101004] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 13:55 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
Registered: March 2008
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"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc..rr.com> wrote:
>
>Deej, thanks, for the idea. Yes, I have my default ppj set to 48k although
>I almost always work at 44.1. Right now the thing that seemed to have fixed
>it is re-installing the sub system, then moving the audio into a fresh ppj.
>The Sub system re-install by itself didn't work, nor did moving audio to
>fresh ppj's, but doing both seems to work so far. I'm in the middle of trying
>to get a bunch of tracks out so I haven't had time to really get methodical
>about it.
>
>rod
Glad you got it sussed Rod. I remember sometimes having to just do a complete
uninstall/reinstall of Paris to get things back up and running. I had a pretty
extensive folder of notes and tweaks so I could get back to business ASAP.
this was "one" reason I found running Paris on Win ME to be my preference.
Paris was quicker and easier to uninstall/reinstall using that OS.
I've been tempted to revisit Paris. I'd love to experience the improvements
that Rob has created for use with Win XP and multiple ADAT modules, multicore
processors, etc. I'm still pretty happy wih Cubase 4x here, but getting the
"big/open" thing going takes a bit of work. I miss the ease with which this
can be done and I'd wager that integrating Paris with the new Waves whizbang
plugins and EDS FX could get a mixequivalent or better to what I am able
to do with the UAD-2 and 4 x UAD-1's, primarily because of the sonic advantages
of Paris right out of the chute.............oh well.......enough reminiscing.
;)
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101007 is a reply to message #101005] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 19:04 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Well...not so fast. They kind of came back. I actually tried what you said,
plus the subsystem renew. I even tried disabling hardware acceleration on
my evil matrox vid card (which I'm still slightly suspicious might be the
cuplrit). No luck. Then I put the matrox back to it's previous settings,
re-installed the subsystem again and imported the files into a new ppj. No
more clicks or pops. I finished the tracks for the clients that were at 48k.
Now I'm back to 44.1 and there are no problems. I work very seldom in 48k.
I suspect there may be something wonky somewhere that only rears it's head
when taxing the system like that, although I got no dixk streaming errors.
Rod
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
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>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc..rr.com> wrote:
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>>Deej, thanks, for the idea. Yes, I have my default ppj set to 48k although
>>I almost always work at 44.1. Right now the thing that seemed to have fixed
>>it is re-installing the sub system, then moving the audio into a fresh
ppj.
>>The Sub system re-install by itself didn't work, nor did moving audio to
>>fresh ppj's, but doing both seems to work so far. I'm in the middle of
trying
>>to get a bunch of tracks out so I haven't had time to really get methodical
>>about it.
>>
>>rod
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>Glad you got it sussed Rod. I remember sometimes having to just do a complete
>uninstall/reinstall of Paris to get things back up and running. I had a
pretty
>extensive folder of notes and tweaks so I could get back to business ASAP.
>this was "one" reason I found running Paris on Win ME to be my preference.
>Paris was quicker and easier to uninstall/reinstall using that OS.
>
>I've been tempted to revisit Paris. I'd love to experience the improvements
>that Rob has created for use with Win XP and multiple ADAT modules, multicore
>processors, etc. I'm still pretty happy wih Cubase 4x here, but getting
the
>"big/open" thing going takes a bit of work. I miss the ease with which this
>can be done and I'd wager that integrating Paris with the new Waves whizbang
>plugins and EDS FX could get a mixequivalent or better to what I am able
>to do with the UAD-2 and 4 x UAD-1's, primarily because of the sonic advantages
>of Paris right out of the chute.............oh well.......enough reminiscing.
>
>;)
>
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101009 is a reply to message #101005] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 21:17 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Deej wrote:
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc..rr.com> wrote:
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>>Deej, thanks, for the idea. Yes, I have my default ppj set to 48k although
>>I almost always work at 44.1. Right now the thing that seemed to have fixed
>>it is re-installing the sub system, then moving the audio into a fresh ppj.
>>The Sub system re-install by itself didn't work, nor did moving audio to
>>fresh ppj's, but doing both seems to work so far. I'm in the middle of trying
>>to get a bunch of tracks out so I haven't had time to really get methodical
>>about it.
>>
>>rod
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>
> Glad you got it sussed Rod. I remember sometimes having to just do a complete
> uninstall/reinstall of Paris to get things back up and running. I had a pretty
> extensive folder of notes and tweaks so I could get back to business ASAP.
> this was "one" reason I found running Paris on Win ME to be my preference.
> Paris was quicker and easier to uninstall/reinstall using that OS.
>
> I've been tempted to revisit Paris. I'd love to experience the improvements
> that Rob has created for use with Win XP and multiple ADAT modules, multicore
> processors, etc. I'm still pretty happy wih Cubase 4x here, but getting the
> "big/open" thing going takes a bit of work. I miss the ease with which this
> can be done and I'd wager that integrating Paris with the new Waves whizbang
> plugins and EDS FX could get a mixequivalent or better to what I am able
> to do with the UAD-2 and 4 x UAD-1's, primarily because of the sonic advantages
> of Paris right out of the chute.............oh well.......enough reminiscing.
>
> ;)
>
You can always take a break and come up Oregon way to help me get my
eight card rig running again. It's waaay more horsepower than I have
needed but thought I might run into a use for it someday.
Jeff
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101011 is a reply to message #101010] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 21:54 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Deej wrote:
> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
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>>You can always take a break and come up Oregon way to help me get my
>>eight card rig running again. It's waaay more horsepower than I have
>>needed but thought I might run into a use for it someday.
>>
>>Jeff
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> I'd love to come up to Oregon. Right now I'm totally buried in work. One
> thing I would suggest to getting two 13 slot Magma chassis'. I know for sure
> you can get this bussed properly with two of these if you have a mobo that
> has a couple of IRQ's that can be configured not to share with anything critical.
> I'm using a pair of Mqagma's right now and at one point I was running 4 x
> UAD-1's and a pair of TC POCO's in one of them and 3 x RME PCI cards in the
> other. If the RME driver would support more than three cards, I would get
> another RME PCI card as well.
>
> If I were to go back to Paris, I would probably use four computers with a
> single EDS card and a single fully loaded MEC per system and sync them up
> via timecode. It would create some bussing possibilities that I'd like to
> explore.
>
> ;)
>
>
Like your idea...I was sitting pretty at six cards, but the move to the
13 slot magma hasn't gone well. I might need a taller rack and split
the EDS's up between the 13 and the 7 slot. I've only gotten 4 cards
working in the 13 slot. It is the newer style interface card.
I still am not sure all of my cables are good so one of these times I'm
going to test them all.
Wish your whole sheebang was up here, Amy, Crash, and the horses. Our
special needs son had been "given" a horse to care for, but the ranch
owner shut down so now he is really our of sorts.
We're working on a plan B but it hasn't materialized yet.
Jeff
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| Re: Weird noises, there, ..........then not [message #101031 is a reply to message #101005] |
Wed, 12 November 2008 06:55 |
no
Messages: 40
Registered: January 2008
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Ahh!
The "Big, open thing".
I hope there is still a place for that in modern music.
Case in point:
I've been approached to remix a recent live recording by "The Saints".
(Anyone remember those Ozzie punksters from the 70's/80's??)
Welll... This thing has already been mixed by one of the band
members.
(albeit a "rush job", admittedly..done over a weekend).
His efforts are pretty cool, but suffer that all-too-familiar
"smallness" that seems to be flavour of the month, but fatigueing
to my ears. It sounds full at low levels, but lacking in bottom end. Crank
it up,
and it hurts!!. My monitors sound like an ipod, with the source
processed by itunes...yuk!
I don't know what was used to mix, but I have already tested the water
and Paris is sounding BIGGER!!. (I can crank up the bass or kick,
and it doesn't disappear behind the wall of guitar!)
(The Sex Pistols' Never Mind The Bollocks sounds better, the louder it is....Hmmm.)
The source is a less-than-stellar split multicore feed (minus rack toms...the
files mysteriously disappeared), consisting of 22 tracks.
The management like what they are hearing. It has DEPTH!!
Punk Music??....Depth??? Go figure!
Wish me luck. LOL!!!
Kim
All I have is a less-than-stellar split multicore feed, recorded
into something. (22 tracks.... the rack toms are missing!).
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
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>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc..rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Deej, thanks, for the idea. Yes, I have my default ppj set to 48k although
>>I almost always work at 44.1. Right now the thing that seemed to have fixed
>>it is re-installing the sub system, then moving the audio into a fresh
ppj.
>>The Sub system re-install by itself didn't work, nor did moving audio to
>>fresh ppj's, but doing both seems to work so far. I'm in the middle of
trying
>>to get a bunch of tracks out so I haven't had time to really get methodical
>>about it.
>>
>>rod
>
>Glad you got it sussed Rod. I remember sometimes having to just do a complete
>uninstall/reinstall of Paris to get things back up and running. I had a
pretty
>extensive folder of notes and tweaks so I could get back to business ASAP.
>this was "one" reason I found running Paris on Win ME to be my preference.
>Paris was quicker and easier to uninstall/reinstall using that OS.
>
>I've been tempted to revisit Paris. I'd love to experience the improvements
>that Rob has created for use with Win XP and multiple ADAT modules, multicore
>processors, etc. I'm still pretty happy wih Cubase 4x here, but getting
the
>"big/open" thing going takes a bit of work. I miss the ease with which this
>can be done and I'd wager that integrating Paris with the new Waves whizbang
>plugins and EDS FX could get a mixequivalent or better to what I am able
>to do with the UAD-2 and 4 x UAD-1's, primarily because of the sonic advantages
>of Paris right out of the chute.............oh well.......enough reminiscing.
>
>;)
>
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