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| Paris Perspective: [message #87831] |
Mon, 09 July 2007 14:22  |
LaMont
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As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog botique plugins,
I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate verb adn
Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is the Comp..
With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new standards
in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still holding it's
own with the best of them..
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87879 is a reply to message #87845] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 13:26  |
Dale
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Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>
>
>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>LaMont--
>>i agree--
>>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>FX for the room rev.--
>>any suggestions?
>>thanks
>>jp
>>
>>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog botique
plugins,
>>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>
>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate verb
adn
>>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is the
>>Comp..
>>>
>>>
>>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new standards
>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still holding
it's
>>>own with the best of them..
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87881 is a reply to message #87879] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 14:59 |
Tom Bruhl
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Dale,
I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or sometimes=20
snare.
Tom
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
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Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>
>
>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>LaMont--
>>i agree--
>>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>FX for the room rev.--
>>any suggestions?
>>thanks
>>jp
>>
>>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog =
botique
plugins,
>>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>
>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate =
verb
adn
>>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is =
the
>>Comp..
>>>
>>>
>>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new =
standards
>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
holding
it's
>>>own with the best of them..
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
reverb. =20
Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses and =
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either and=20
it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =
plate to notch=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>more often than not. It carves a =
whole for=20
the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87896 is a reply to message #87895] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 17:16 |
Nil
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VST-wrapper issues, maybe?
Neil
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I never could get that one to run right on Paris. I don't remember exactly
>the deal, and it passed sound but as I recall it wouldn't save settings
or
>make any changes to the settings.
>AA
>
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46939de5$1@linux...
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>> Or RoomMachine844 from Silverspike.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>Try a plug called Ambience
>>>
>>>jp wrote:
>>>> LaMont--
>>>> i agree--
>>>> though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> FX for the room rev.--
>>>> any suggestions?
>>>> thanks
>>>> jp
>>>>
>>>> "LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>> As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog botique
>> plugins,
>>>>> I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate verb
>> adn
>>>>> Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is
the
>>>> Comp..
>>>>>
>>>>> With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new
>>>>> standards
>>>>> in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still holding
>> it's
>>>>> own with the best of them..
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87904 is a reply to message #87896] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 19:31 |
Rod Lincoln
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Yeah, I wrapped that one in fxpansion and no problems.
Rod
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>VST-wrapper issues, maybe?
>
>Neil
>
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>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I never could get that one to run right on Paris. I don't remember exactly
>
>>the deal, and it passed sound but as I recall it wouldn't save settings
>or
>>make any changes to the settings.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46939de5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Or RoomMachine844 from Silverspike.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>Try a plug called Ambience
>>>>
>>>>jp wrote:
>>>>> LaMont--
>>>>> i agree--
>>>>> though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>>> i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>>> FX for the room rev.--
>>>>> any suggestions?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> jp
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>> As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog botique
>>> plugins,
>>>>>> I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate
verb
>>> adn
>>>>>> Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is
>the
>>>>> Comp..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new
>
>>>>>> standards
>>>>>> in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still holding
>>> it's
>>>>>> own with the best of them..
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87906 is a reply to message #87881] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 20:44 |
Dale
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Thanks Tom
Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
Thanks,
Dale
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Dale,
>I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or sometimes=20
>snare.
>Tom
>
> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>
> Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
> >
> >
> >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>LaMont--
> >>i agree--
> >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
> >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
> >>FX for the room rev.--
> >>any suggestions?
> >>thanks
> >>jp
> >>
> >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog =
>botique
> plugins,
> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
> >>>
> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate =
>verb
> adn
> >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is
=
>the
> >>Comp..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new
=
>standards
> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
>holding
> it's
> >>>own with the best of them..
> >
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>reverb. =20
>Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses and
=
>mix=20
>them</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>together. Don't get too loud with =
>either and=20
>it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =
>plate to notch=20
>out some mids</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>more often than not. It carves a =
>whole for=20
>the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
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>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
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> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>, can=20
> you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those=20
> available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=20
> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =
>room=20
> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or =
>
> revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=20
> =
>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=
>nt"=20
> <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =
>making our=20
> way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =
>more=20
> resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=20
> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =
>good for=20
> most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =
>are=20
> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=20
> =
>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=
>=20
> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=20
> standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =
>years=20
> are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=20
> them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87908 is a reply to message #87906] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 20:55 |
jp jpjonesnet
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dale--
i call up the room reverb (with some tweaking)
and then the plate reverb--
the plate is usually "Bill's TC"
that i think Bill Lorentz created(sp?)
hi, bill
then i usually have to roll off some high end
either pre or post
jp
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks Tom
>
>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dale,
>>I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or sometimes=20
>>snare.
>>Tom
>>
>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>
>> Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>
>>
>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>> >
>> >
>> >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>LaMont--
>> >>i agree--
>> >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>> >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>> >>FX for the room rev.--
>> >>any suggestions?
>> >>thanks
>> >>jp
>> >>
>> >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>botique
>> plugins,
>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>> >>>
>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate
=
>>verb
>> adn
>> >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is
>=
>>the
>> >>Comp..
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new
>=
>>standards
>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
>>holding
>> it's
>> >>>own with the best of them..
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>reverb. =20
>>Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses and
>=
>>mix=20
>>them</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>together. Don't get too loud with =
>>either and=20
>>it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =
>>plate to notch=20
>>out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>more often than not. It carves a =
>>whole for=20
>>the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
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>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>, can=20
>> you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those=20
>> available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>><<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=20
>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =
>>room=20
>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or =
>>
>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=20
>> =
>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=
>>nt"=20
>> <<A =
>>href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =
>>making our=20
>> way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =
>>more=20
>> resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=20
>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =
>>good for=20
>> most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =
>>are=20
>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=20
>> =
>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=
>>=20
>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=20
>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =
>>years=20
>> are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=20
>> them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>and=20
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87909 is a reply to message #87904] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 21:02 |
Aaron Allen
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Were you guys able to get Room Machine flying in Paris? That was another one
that was showing the same kind of problems.
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46944104$1@linux...
>
> Yeah, I wrapped that one in fxpansion and no problems.
> Rod
> "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>VST-wrapper issues, maybe?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I never could get that one to run right on Paris. I don't remember
>>>exactly
>>
>>>the deal, and it passed sound but as I recall it wouldn't save settings
>>or
>>>make any changes to the settings.
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46939de5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Or RoomMachine844 from Silverspike.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>Try a plug called Ambience
>>>>>
>>>>>jp wrote:
>>>>>> LaMont--
>>>>>> i agree--
>>>>>> though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>>>> i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>>>> FX for the room rev.--
>>>>>> any suggestions?
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>>>>>> botique
>>>> plugins,
>>>>>>> I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate
> verb
>>>> adn
>>>>>>> Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is
>>the
>>>>>> Comp..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new
>>
>>>>>>> standards
>>>>>>> in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>>>>>>> holding
>>>> it's
>>>>>>> own with the best of them..
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87911 is a reply to message #87906] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 21:52 |
Tom Bruhl
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Dale,
Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
It's always a crap shoot.
Crap,
Tom
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:46945223$1@linux...
Thanks Tom
Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
Thanks,
Dale
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dale,
>I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
sometimes=3D20
>snare.
>Tom
>
> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>
> Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
> >
> >
> >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>LaMont--
> >>i agree--
> >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
> >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
> >>FX for the room rev.--
> >>any suggestions?
> >>thanks
> >>jp
> >>
> >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog =
=3D
>botique
> plugins,
> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
stellar.
> >>>
> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
Plate =3D
>verb
> adn
> >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
is
=3D
>the
> >>Comp..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the =
new
=3D
>standards
> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
=3D
>holding
> it's
> >>>own with the best of them..
> >
>
>
>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87913 is a reply to message #87911] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 22:15 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
dark & you'll be a happy camper!
For rooms, go find another plugin.
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dale,
>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>
>It's always a crap shoot.
>Crap,
>Tom
>
>
> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>news:46945223$1@linux...
>
> Thanks Tom
>
> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dale,
> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>sometimes=3D20
> >snare.
> >Tom
> >
> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
> >
> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
> >
> >
> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
> > >
> > >
> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>LaMont--
> > >>i agree--
> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
> > >>FX for the room rev.--
> > >>any suggestions?
> > >>thanks
> > >>jp
> > >>
> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog =
>=3D
> >botique
> > plugins,
> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>stellar.
> > >>>
> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>Plate =3D
> >verb
> > adn
> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
=
>is
> =3D
> >the
> > >>Comp..
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
=
>new
> =3D
> >standards
> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
>=3D
> >holding
> > it's
> > >>>own with the best of them..
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>richer =3D
> >reverb. =3D20
> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>busses and
> =3D
> >mix=3D20
> >them</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud =
>with =3D
> >either and=3D20
> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
=
>the =3D
> >plate to notch=3D20
> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
=
>a =3D
> >whole for=3D20
> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>/A>=3D
> >>=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>ick=3D
> >, can=3D20
> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
> > =
>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>those=3D20
> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
> ><<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
> >room=3D20
> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or =
>=3D
> >
> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
> > =3D
> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
> >nt"=3D20
> > <<A =3D
> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
> >making our=3D20
> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
> >more=3D20
> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
> >good for=3D20
> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
> >are=3D20
> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
> > =3D
> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
> >=3D20
> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
> >years=3D20
> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>post pan won't=20
>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>stereo in so that=20
>might help</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>The key is to=20
>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
=
>your=20
>source.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>each. I like=20
>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>softly. The=20
>room can</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>you're not=20
>careful.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix =
>them to=20
>enhance</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
=
>or=20
>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>ks=20
> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>richer=20
> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>busses and=20
> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>will be=20
> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>some=20
> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>or=20
> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>=20
> wrote in message =
>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>rick <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>of those=20
> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>10 Jul=20
> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>wrote:<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>criticism=20
> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>don't=20
> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>and other=20
> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>that=20
> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>The Plate=20
> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>Delays are=20
> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>Waves new=20
> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>still=20
> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>with the=20
> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>choose=20
> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
> =
>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR>>&l=
>t;DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>2px solid;=20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>A><BR>> =20
> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
> those=3D20<BR>> =
>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
> =
>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>ancient user=20
> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>R>> =20
> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>have been=20
> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>are=20
> were=3D20<BR>> =20
> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>band) is=20
> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>Plate=20
> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>cool, and=20
> is=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>modeling,=20
> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>
> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
> of=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87914 is a reply to message #87909] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 22:23 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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I can't remember what wrapper I was using when I had Paris as
a Primary DAW (and now I don't have any VST's loaded on the
Paris machine), but yeah I had it working - Rod did too,
apparently.
Damn, that's a good plugin... it's my favorite for drum rooms,
and that's mainly what I use it on - I tend to use the Lexi
Pantheon for most other reverbs, but for drums the RM844 is my
go-to.
Neil
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Were you guys able to get Room Machine flying in Paris? That was another
one
>that was showing the same kind of problems.
>AA
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46944104$1@linux...
>>
>> Yeah, I wrapped that one in fxpansion and no problems.
>> Rod
>> "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>VST-wrapper issues, maybe?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I never could get that one to run right on Paris. I don't remember
>>>>exactly
>>>
>>>>the deal, and it passed sound but as I recall it wouldn't save settings
>>>or
>>>>make any changes to the settings.
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46939de5$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Or RoomMachine844 from Silverspike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Try a plug called Ambience
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jp wrote:
>>>>>>> LaMont--
>>>>>>> i agree--
>>>>>>> though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>>>>> i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>>>>> FX for the room rev.--
>>>>>>> any suggestions?
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>>>>>>> botique
>>>>> plugins,
>>>>>>>> I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate
>> verb
>>>>> adn
>>>>>>>> Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
is
>>>the
>>>>>>> Comp..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
new
>>>
>>>>>>>> standards
>>>>>>>> in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>>>>>>>> holding
>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> own with the best of them..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87916 is a reply to message #87913] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 22:29 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding I
steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be interested
to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>
>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dale,
>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>
>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>Crap,
>>Tom
>>
>>
>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks Tom
>>
>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dale
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Dale,
>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>sometimes=3D20
>> >snare.
>> >Tom
>> >
>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>> >
>> >
>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>LaMont--
>> > >>i agree--
>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>> > >>any suggestions?
>> > >>thanks
>> > >>jp
>> > >>
>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
=
>>=3D
>> >botique
>> > plugins,
>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>stellar.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>Plate =3D
>> >verb
>> > adn
>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>=
>>is
>> =3D
>> >the
>> > >>Comp..
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>=
>>new
>> =3D
>> >standards
>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
>>=3D
>> >holding
>> > it's
>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>richer =3D
>> >reverb. =3D20
>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>busses and
>> =3D
>> >mix=3D20
>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud =
>>with =3D
>> >either and=3D20
>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>=
>>the =3D
>> >plate to notch=3D20
>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>=
>>a =3D
>> >whole for=3D20
>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>>=3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>/A>=3D
>> >>=3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>ick=3D
>> >, can=3D20
>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>> > =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>those=3D20
>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>> ><<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>> >room=3D20
>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or =
>>=3D
>> >
>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>> >nt"=3D20
>> > <<A =3D
>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>> >making our=3D20
>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>> >more=3D20
>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>> >good for=3D20
>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>> >are=3D20
>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>> >=3D20
>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>> >years=3D20
>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>spam, =3D
>> >and=3D20
>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>fer=3D
>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>post pan won't=20
>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>stereo in so that=20
>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>The key is to=20
>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>=
>>your=20
>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>each. I like=20
>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>softly. The=20
>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>you're not=20
>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix =
>>them to=20
>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>=
>>or=20
>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>ks=20
>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>richer=20
>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>busses and=20
>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>will be=20
>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>some=20
>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>or=20
>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>><<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>=20
>> wrote in message =
>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>rick <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>of those=20
>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>10 Jul=20
>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>criticism=20
>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>don't=20
>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>><BR>> =20
>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>and other=20
>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>that=20
>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>The Plate=20
>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>Delays are=20
>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>Waves new=20
>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>still=20
>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>with the=20
>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>choose=20
>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>> =
>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>> =
>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR> >&l=
>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>
>> face=3D3DArial =
>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>> =
>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>0px;=20
>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>2px solid;=20
>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>A><BR>> =20
>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>> =
>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>the=20
>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>ancient user=20
>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>R>> =20
>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>have been=20
>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>are=20
>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>band) is=20
>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>Plate=20
>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>cool, and=20
>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>modeling,=20
>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>
>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>ONT=20
>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>spam,=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>> =
>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87917 is a reply to message #87916] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 22:32 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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You want some high-quality non-lin??? You can make whatever you
want with this thing:
http://www.quikquak.com/downloads.html
Neil
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
I
>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be interested
>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>
>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Dale,
>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>
>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>Crap,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom
>>>
>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Dale,
>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>sometimes=3D20
>>> >snare.
>>> >Tom
>>> >
>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>LaMont--
>>> > >>i agree--
>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>> > >>thanks
>>> > >>jp
>>> > >>
>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >botique
>>> > plugins,
>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>stellar.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>Plate =3D
>>> >verb
>>> > adn
>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>>=
>>>is
>>> =3D
>>> >the
>>> > >>Comp..
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>=
>>>new
>>> =3D
>>> >standards
>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
=
>>>=3D
>>> >holding
>>> > it's
>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> >
>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>> ></HEAD>
>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer =3D
>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and
>>> =3D
>>> >mix=3D20
>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
=
>>>with =3D
>>> >either and=3D20
>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>>=
>>>the =3D
>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>=
>>>a =3D
>>> >whole for=3D20
>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>/A>=3D
>>> >>=3D20
>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>ick=3D
>>> >, can=3D20
>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>> > =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>those=3D20
>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>> ><<A=3D20
>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>> >room=3D20
>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
=
>>>=3D
>>> >
>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>> >nt"=3D20
>>> > <<A =3D
>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>> >making our=3D20
>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>> >more=3D20
>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>> >good for=3D20
>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>> >are=3D20
>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>> >=3D20
>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>> >years=3D20
>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam, =3D
>>> >and=3D20
>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>fer=3D
>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>post pan won't=20
>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>The key is to=20
>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>=
>>>your=20
>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>each. I like=20
>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>softly. The=20
>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>you're not=20
>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
=
>>>them to=20
>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>=
>>>or=20
>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>ks=20
>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer=20
>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and=20
>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>will be=20
>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>some=20
>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>or=20
>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>><<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message =
>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>rick <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>of those=20
>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>10 Jul=20
>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>criticism=20
>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>don't=20
>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>><BR>> =20
>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>and other=20
>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>that=20
>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>The Plate=20
>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>Delays are=20
>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>Waves new=20
>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>still=20
>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>with the=20
>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>choose=20
>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>> =
>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>
>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>> =
>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>0px;=20
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>>>2px solid;=20
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>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>A><BR>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>ancient user=20
>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>R>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>have been=20
>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>are=20
>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>band) is=20
>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>Plate=20
>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>cool, and=20
>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>modeling,=20
>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>
>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>ONT=20
>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam,=20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>> =
>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87923 is a reply to message #87916] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 22:52 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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I find that the rooms work much better in the whole mix than you
expect them to from what they sound like soloed.
DC
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
I
>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be interested
>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>
>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Dale,
>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>
>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>Crap,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom
>>>
>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Dale,
>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>sometimes=3D20
>>> >snare.
>>> >Tom
>>> >
>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>LaMont--
>>> > >>i agree--
>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>> > >>thanks
>>> > >>jp
>>> > >>
>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >botique
>>> > plugins,
>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>stellar.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>Plate =3D
>>> >verb
>>> > adn
>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>>=
>>>is
>>> =3D
>>> >the
>>> > >>Comp..
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>=
>>>new
>>> =3D
>>> >standards
>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
=
>>>=3D
>>> >holding
>>> > it's
>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> >
>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>> ></HEAD>
>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer =3D
>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and
>>> =3D
>>> >mix=3D20
>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
=
>>>with =3D
>>> >either and=3D20
>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>>=
>>>the =3D
>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>=
>>>a =3D
>>> >whole for=3D20
>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>/A>=3D
>>> >>=3D20
>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>ick=3D
>>> >, can=3D20
>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>> > =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>those=3D20
>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>> ><<A=3D20
>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>> >room=3D20
>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
=
>>>=3D
>>> >
>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>> >nt"=3D20
>>> > <<A =3D
>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>> >making our=3D20
>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>> >more=3D20
>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>> >good for=3D20
>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>> >are=3D20
>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>> >=3D20
>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>> >years=3D20
>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam, =3D
>>> >and=3D20
>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>fer=3D
>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>post pan won't=20
>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>The key is to=20
>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>=
>>>your=20
>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>each. I like=20
>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>softly. The=20
>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>you're not=20
>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
=
>>>them to=20
>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>=
>>>or=20
>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>ks=20
>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer=20
>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and=20
>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>will be=20
>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>some=20
>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>or=20
>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>><<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message =
>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>rick <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>of those=20
>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>10 Jul=20
>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>criticism=20
>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>don't=20
>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>><BR>> =20
>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>and other=20
>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>that=20
>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>The Plate=20
>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>Delays are=20
>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>Waves new=20
>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>still=20
>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>with the=20
>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>choose=20
>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>> =
>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>> =
>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>
>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>> =
>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>0px;=20
>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>2px solid;=20
>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>A><BR>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>ancient user=20
>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>R>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>have been=20
>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>are=20
>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>band) is=20
>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>Plate=20
>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>cool, and=20
>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>modeling,=20
>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>
>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>ONT=20
>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam,=20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>> =
>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87924 is a reply to message #87917] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 22:54 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Neil you are the free plug master!
Where was this in your "Here are a few of my favourite (free) things" post?
Not out yet?
Cheers,
Kim.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>You want some high-quality non-lin??? You can make whatever you
>want with this thing:
>
>http://www.quikquak.com/downloads.html
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
>I
>>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be interested
>>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>
>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dale,
>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>Crap,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>
>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dale,
>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>> >snare.
>>>> >Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>=
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
=
>>>>spam, =3D
>>>> >and=3D20
>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>fer=3D
>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>=
>>>>your=20
>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>>you're not=20
>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
>=
>>>>them to=20
>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>=
>>>>or=20
>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>ks=20
>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer=20
>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and=20
>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>will be=20
>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>>some=20
>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>or=20
>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>><<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>of those=20
>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>criticism=20
>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>don't=20
>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>and other=20
>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>> =
>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>> =
>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>
>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>> =
>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>0px;=20
>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>the=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>ancient user=20
>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>R>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>have been=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>are=20
>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>band) is=20
>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>Plate=20
>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>cool, and=20
>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>modeling,=20
>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>
>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>ONT=20
>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam,=20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>> =
>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87925 is a reply to message #87924] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 23:02 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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Well, that's not a free one, Kimmers... that's a link to the
page where you can download a demo (which is a pretty decent
demo, full-featured, just has dropouts; which is much better
than the type that has limited features & you can't really tell
what it can do).
Also, don't know if I'd include that one in my "favorite"
plugins, regardless, because it's very CPU-expensive. I think
that takes it off the list of "Favorites", but it's definitely
very versatile & might be good for some sounds you're into.
Neil
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Neil you are the free plug master!
>
>Where was this in your "Here are a few of my favourite (free) things" post?
>Not out yet?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>You want some high-quality non-lin??? You can make whatever you
>>want with this thing:
>>
>>http://www.quikquak.com/downloads.html
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
>>I
>>>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be interested
>>>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>>
>>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dale,
>>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>>Crap,
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dale
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Dale,
>>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>>> >snare.
>>>>> >Tom
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>>> > >>thanks
>>>>> > >>jp
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>>=
>>>>>=3D
>>>>> >botique
>>>>> > plugins,
>>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>>stellar.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The
=
>>>>>Plate =3D
>>>>> >verb
>>>>> > adn
>>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
>and
>>>>=
>>>>>is
>>>>> =3D
>>>>> >the
>>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting
the
>>>>=
>>>>>new
>>>>> =3D
>>>>> >standards
>>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>>=
>>>>>=3D
>>>>> >holding
>>>>> > it's
>>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>>> >
>>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a
=
>>>>>richer =3D
>>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux
=
>>>>>busses and
>>>>> =3D
>>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>>=
>>>>>with =3D
>>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
>of
>>>>=
>>>>>the =3D
>>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>>=
>>>>>a =3D
>>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>>=
>>>>>=3D
>>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>>> > =3D
>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>>/A>=3D
>>>>> >>=3D20
>>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>>> > =3D
>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>>ick=3D
>>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>>> > =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>>those=3D20
>>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>>> >room=3D20
>>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
>>=
>>>>>=3D
>>>>> >
>>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>>> > =3D
>>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>>> >more=3D20
>>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>>> >are=3D20
>>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>>> > =3D
>>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>>> >=3D20
>>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>>> >years=3D20
>>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>=
>>>>>spam, =3D
>>>>> >and=3D20
>>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>>fer=3D
>>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>>=
>>>>>your=20
>>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>>>you're not=20
>>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
>>=
>>>>>them to=20
>>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>>=
>>>>>or=20
>>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>>ks=20
>>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>>richer=20
>>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>>busses and=20
>>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>>will be=20
>>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out
=
>>>>>some=20
>>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>>or=20
>>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>>><<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>>of those=20
>>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>>criticism=20
>>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>>don't=20
>>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>>and other=20
>>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>>that=20
>>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>>The Plate=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>>Delays are=20
>>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>>Waves new=20
>>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>>still=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>>with the=20
>>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>>choose=20
>>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>>
>>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>>> =
>>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>>0px;=20
>>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000
=
>>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>>> =
>>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>>the=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>>ancient user=20
>>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> =
>>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>>R>> =20
>>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>>have been=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>>are=20
>>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>>band) is=20
>>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>>Plate=20
>>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>>cool, and=20
>>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> =
>>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>>modeling,=20
>>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>>
>>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>> =
>>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>>ONT=20
>>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>>spam,=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>>> =
>>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87928 is a reply to message #87925] |
Tue, 10 July 2007 23:58 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Not free? OutRAGEous! ;o)
I run pretty much entirely free plugs these days. I can't be bothered updating
any of the old ones I have, and between the Paris effects and freebies I
find I can get almost anything done I need to...
....but then I'm a kinda "8 track tape wasn't that bad" kinda guy... ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Well, that's not a free one, Kimmers... that's a link to the
>page where you can download a demo (which is a pretty decent
>demo, full-featured, just has dropouts; which is much better
>than the type that has limited features & you can't really tell
>what it can do).
>
>Also, don't know if I'd include that one in my "favorite"
>plugins, regardless, because it's very CPU-expensive. I think
>that takes it off the list of "Favorites", but it's definitely
>very versatile & might be good for some sounds you're into.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Neil you are the free plug master!
>>
>>Where was this in your "Here are a few of my favourite (free) things" post?
>>Not out yet?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>You want some high-quality non-lin??? You can make whatever you
>>>want with this thing:
>>>
>>>http://www.quikquak.com/downloads.html
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
>>>I
>>>>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be interested
>>>>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>>>
>>>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dale,
>>>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>>>Crap,
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Dale,
>>>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>>>> >snare.
>>>>>> >Tom
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>>>> > >>thanks
>>>>>> > >>jp
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>>>=
>>>>>>=3D
>>>>>> >botique
>>>>>> > plugins,
>>>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>>>stellar.
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The
>=
>>>>>>Plate =3D
>>>>>> >verb
>>>>>> > adn
>>>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
>>and
>>>>>=
>>>>>>is
>>>>>> =3D
>>>>>> >the
>>>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting
>the
>>>>>=
>>>>>>new
>>>>>> =3D
>>>>>> >standards
>>>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>>>=
>>>>>>=3D
>>>>>> >holding
>>>>>> > it's
>>>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a
>=
>>>>>>richer =3D
>>>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux
>=
>>>>>>busses and
>>>>>> =3D
>>>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>>>=
>>>>>>with =3D
>>>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
>>of
>>>>>=
>>>>>>the =3D
>>>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>>>=
>>>>>>a =3D
>>>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>>>=
>>>>>>=3D
>>>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>>>/A>=3D
>>>>>> >>=3D20
>>>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>>>ick=3D
>>>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>>>> > =
>>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>>>those=3D20
>>>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>>>> >room=3D20
>>>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins
or
>>>=
>>>>>>=3D
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>>>> >more=3D20
>>>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays
=3D
>>>>>> >are=3D20
>>>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>>>> > =3D
>>>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>>>> >=3D20
>>>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10
=3D
>>>>>> >years=3D20
>>>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>>=
>>>>>>spam, =3D
>>>>>> >and=3D20
>>>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>>>fer=3D
>>>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>>>=
>>>>>>your=20
>>>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if
=
>>>>>>you're not=20
>>>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
>>>=
>>>>>>them to=20
>>>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>>>=
>>>>>>or=20
>>>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>>>ks=20
>>>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>>>richer=20
>>>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>>>busses and=20
>>>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out
>=
>>>>>>some=20
>>>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>>>or=20
>>>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>>>><<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>>>of those=20
>>>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>>>criticism=20
>>>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>>>don't=20
>>>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>>>and other=20
>>>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>>>that=20
>>>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>>>The Plate=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>>>Delays are=20
>>>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>>>Waves new=20
>>>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>>>still=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>>>with the=20
>>>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>>>choose=20
>>>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>>>
>>>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>>>0px;=20
>>>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000
>=
>>>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>>>the=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>>>ancient user=20
>>>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>>>R>> =20
>>>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>>>have been=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>>>are=20
>>>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>>>band) is=20
>>>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>>>Plate=20
>>>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>>>cool, and=20
>>>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>>>modeling,=20
>>>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>>>
>>>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>>>ONT=20
>>>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>>>spam,=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87930 is a reply to message #87909] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 01:16 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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No problems at all with "Room Machine" in Paris and WinXP for me. I'm using
"FXpansion VST-DX adapter 3.3" to find "Chainer" and "Chainer" to find the
VSTplugins in "Steinberg" and then opening "Room Machine" in "Chainer" who
is opened in "Native Plugins".
Erling
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> skrev i melding
news:469457b4@linux...
> Were you guys able to get Room Machine flying in Paris? That was another
> one that was showing the same kind of problems.
> AA
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46944104$1@linux...
>>
>> Yeah, I wrapped that one in fxpansion and no problems.
>> Rod
>> "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>VST-wrapper issues, maybe?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I never could get that one to run right on Paris. I don't remember
>>>>exactly
>>>
>>>>the deal, and it passed sound but as I recall it wouldn't save settings
>>>or
>>>>make any changes to the settings.
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46939de5$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Or RoomMachine844 from Silverspike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Try a plug called Ambience
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jp wrote:
>>>>>>> LaMont--
>>>>>>> i agree--
>>>>>>> though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>>>>> i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>>>>> FX for the room rev.--
>>>>>>> any suggestions?
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>>>>>>> botique
>>>>> plugins,
>>>>>>>> I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were stellar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The Plate
>> verb
>>>>> adn
>>>>>>>> Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is
>>>the
>>>>>>> Comp..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new
>>>
>>>>>>>> standards
>>>>>>>> in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>>>>>>>> holding
>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> own with the best of them..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #87942 is a reply to message #87923] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 11:00 |
Wayne Carson
Messages: 86
Registered: June 2007
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I use the Paris EDS room reverb "studio A" on stereo guitar tracks (from
pod), ride cymbal and hi hat. I use the plate for vocals.
Wayne
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4694700a$1@linux...
>
> I find that the rooms work much better in the whole mix than you
> expect them to from what they sound like soloed.
>
> DC
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
> I
>>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be
>>interested
>>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>
>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dale,
>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>Crap,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>
>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dale,
>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>> >snare.
>>>> >Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
> =
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
> =
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
> =
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam, =3D
>>>> >and=3D20
>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>fer=3D
>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>=
>>>>your=20
>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>>you're not=20
>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
> =
>>>>them to=20
>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>=
>>>>or=20
>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>ks=20
>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer=20
>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and=20
>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>will be=20
>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>>some=20
>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>or=20
>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>><<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>of those=20
>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>criticism=20
>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>don't=20
>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>and other=20
>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>> =
>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>> =
>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>
>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>> =
>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>0px;=20
>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>the=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>ancient user=20
>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>R>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>have been=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>are=20
>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>band) is=20
>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>Plate=20
>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>cool, and=20
>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>modeling,=20
>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>
>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>ONT=20
>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam,=20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>> =
>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #88060 is a reply to message #87923] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 14:10 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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I used to use the room reverbs for drums all the time with the non-linear
reverbs on snare.
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4694700a$1@linux...
>
> I find that the rooms work much better in the whole mix than you
> expect them to from what they sound like soloed.
>
> DC
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
> I
>>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be
>>interested
>>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>
>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dale,
>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>Crap,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>
>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dale,
>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>> >snare.
>>>> >Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
> =
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
> =
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
> =
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam, =3D
>>>> >and=3D20
>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>fer=3D
>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>=
>>>>your=20
>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>>you're not=20
>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
> =
>>>>them to=20
>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>=
>>>>or=20
>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>ks=20
>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer=20
>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and=20
>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>will be=20
>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>>some=20
>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>or=20
>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>><<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>of those=20
>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>criticism=20
>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>don't=20
>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>and other=20
>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>> =
>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>> =
>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>
>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>> =
>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>0px;=20
>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>the=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>ancient user=20
>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>R>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>have been=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>are=20
>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>band) is=20
>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>Plate=20
>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>cool, and=20
>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>modeling,=20
>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>
>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>ONT=20
>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam,=20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>> =
>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #88218 is a reply to message #87913] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 19:05 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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neil--
thanks
this is what i suspected all along--
btw--
i'm adding an internal HD to my G4--
can i format it in OS 9.2.2
while i have OS 10.2 also on my mac?
jp
"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>
>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dale,
>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>
>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>Crap,
>>Tom
>>
>>
>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks Tom
>>
>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dale
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Dale,
>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>sometimes=3D20
>> >snare.
>> >Tom
>> >
>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>> >
>> >
>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>LaMont--
>> > >>i agree--
>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>> > >>any suggestions?
>> > >>thanks
>> > >>jp
>> > >>
>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
=
>>=3D
>> >botique
>> > plugins,
>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>stellar.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>Plate =3D
>> >verb
>> > adn
>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>=
>>is
>> =3D
>> >the
>> > >>Comp..
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>=
>>new
>> =3D
>> >standards
>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still =
>>=3D
>> >holding
>> > it's
>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>richer =3D
>> >reverb. =3D20
>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>busses and
>> =3D
>> >mix=3D20
>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud =
>>with =3D
>> >either and=3D20
>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>=
>>the =3D
>> >plate to notch=3D20
>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>=
>>a =3D
>> >whole for=3D20
>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>>=3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>/A>=3D
>> >>=3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>ick=3D
>> >, can=3D20
>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>> > =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>those=3D20
>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>> ><<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>> >room=3D20
>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or =
>>=3D
>> >
>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>> >nt"=3D20
>> > <<A =3D
>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>> >making our=3D20
>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>> >more=3D20
>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>> >good for=3D20
>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>> >are=3D20
>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>> >=3D20
>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>> >years=3D20
>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>spam, =3D
>> >and=3D20
>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>fer=3D
>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>post pan won't=20
>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>stereo in so that=20
>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>The key is to=20
>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>=
>>your=20
>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>each. I like=20
>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>softly. The=20
>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>you're not=20
>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix =
>>them to=20
>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>=
>>or=20
>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>ks=20
>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>richer=20
>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>busses and=20
>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>will be=20
>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>some=20
>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>or=20
>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>><<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>=20
>> wrote in message =
>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>rick <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>of those=20
>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>10 Jul=20
>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>criticism=20
>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>don't=20
>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>><BR>> =20
>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>and other=20
>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>that=20
>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>The Plate=20
>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>Delays are=20
>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>Waves new=20
>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>still=20
>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>with the=20
>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>choose=20
>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>> =
>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
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>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
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>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
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>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR> >&l=
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>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
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>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
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>> =
>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>
>> face=3D3DArial =
>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>> =
>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>0px;=20
>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>2px solid;=20
>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>A><BR>> =20
>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>> =
>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>the=20
>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>ancient user=20
>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>R>> =20
>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>have been=20
>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>are=20
>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>band) is=20
>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>Plate=20
>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>cool, and=20
>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>modeling,=20
>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>
>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>ONT=20
>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>spam,=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #88226 is a reply to message #88218] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 21:16 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Yes. Thanks for posting "Francesca" by the way. It was nice to hear it again.
Ted
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>neil--
>thanks
>this is what i suspected all along--
>btw--
>i'm adding an internal HD to my G4--
>can i format it in OS 9.2.2
>while i have OS 10.2 also on my mac?
>jp
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>
>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Dale,
>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>
>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>Crap,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom
>>>
>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Dale,
>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>sometimes=3D20
>>> >snare.
>>> >Tom
>>> >
>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>LaMont--
>>> > >>i agree--
>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>> > >>thanks
>>> > >>jp
>>> > >>
>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >botique
>>> > plugins,
>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>stellar.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>Plate =3D
>>> >verb
>>> > adn
>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>>=
>>>is
>>> =3D
>>> >the
>>> > >>Comp..
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>=
>>>new
>>> =3D
>>> >standards
>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
=
>>>=3D
>>> >holding
>>> > it's
>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> >
>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>> ></HEAD>
>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer =3D
>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and
>>> =3D
>>> >mix=3D20
>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
=
>>>with =3D
>>> >either and=3D20
>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>>=
>>>the =3D
>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>=
>>>a =3D
>>> >whole for=3D20
>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>/A>=3D
>>> >>=3D20
>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>ick=3D
>>> >, can=3D20
>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>> > =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>those=3D20
>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>> ><<A=3D20
>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>> >room=3D20
>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
=
>>>=3D
>>> >
>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>> >nt"=3D20
>>> > <<A =3D
>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>> >making our=3D20
>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>> >more=3D20
>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>> >good for=3D20
>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>> >are=3D20
>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>> >=3D20
>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>> >years=3D20
>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam, =3D
>>> >and=3D20
>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>fer=3D
>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>post pan won't=20
>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>The key is to=20
>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>=
>>>your=20
>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>each. I like=20
>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>softly. The=20
>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>you're not=20
>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
=
>>>them to=20
>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>=
>>>or=20
>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>ks=20
>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer=20
>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and=20
>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>will be=20
>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>some=20
>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>or=20
>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>><<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message =
>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>rick <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>of those=20
>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>10 Jul=20
>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>criticism=20
>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>don't=20
>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>><BR>> =20
>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>and other=20
>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>that=20
>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>The Plate=20
>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>Delays are=20
>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>Waves new=20
>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>still=20
>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>with the=20
>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>choose=20
>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>> =
>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>
>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>> =
>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
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>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>2px solid;=20
>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>A><BR>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>ancient user=20
>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>R>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>have been=20
>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>are=20
>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>band) is=20
>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>Plate=20
>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>cool, and=20
>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>modeling,=20
>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>
>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>ONT=20
>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam,=20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>> =
>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #88228 is a reply to message #88218] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 21:40 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>neil--
>thanks
>this is what i suspected all along--
>btw--
>i'm adding an internal HD to my G4--
>can i format it in OS 9.2.2
>while i have OS 10.2 also on my mac?
>jp
>
Yes. Best if you install OSX on one drive and OS 9 on another if your going
to run Paris on the OS9 drive.
>
>
>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>
>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Dale,
>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>
>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>Crap,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom
>>>
>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Dale,
>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>sometimes=3D20
>>> >snare.
>>> >Tom
>>> >
>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>LaMont--
>>> > >>i agree--
>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>> > >>thanks
>>> > >>jp
>>> > >>
>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >botique
>>> > plugins,
>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>stellar.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>Plate =3D
>>> >verb
>>> > adn
>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and
>>=
>>>is
>>> =3D
>>> >the
>>> > >>Comp..
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>=
>>>new
>>> =3D
>>> >standards
>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
=
>>>=3D
>>> >holding
>>> > it's
>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> >
>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>> ></HEAD>
>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer =3D
>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and
>>> =3D
>>> >mix=3D20
>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
=
>>>with =3D
>>> >either and=3D20
>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of
>>=
>>>the =3D
>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>=
>>>a =3D
>>> >whole for=3D20
>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>/A>=3D
>>> >>=3D20
>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>ick=3D
>>> >, can=3D20
>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>> > =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>those=3D20
>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>> ><<A=3D20
>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>> >room=3D20
>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
=
>>>=3D
>>> >
>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>> >nt"=3D20
>>> > <<A =3D
>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>> >making our=3D20
>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>> >more=3D20
>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>> >good for=3D20
>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>> >are=3D20
>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>> > =3D
>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>> >=3D20
>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>> >years=3D20
>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam, =3D
>>> >and=3D20
>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>fer=3D
>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>post pan won't=20
>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>The key is to=20
>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>=
>>>your=20
>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>each. I like=20
>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>softly. The=20
>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>you're not=20
>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
=
>>>them to=20
>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>=
>>>or=20
>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>ks=20
>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>richer=20
>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>busses and=20
>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>will be=20
>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>some=20
>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>or=20
>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>><<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>=20
>>> wrote in message =
>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>rick <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>of those=20
>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>10 Jul=20
>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>criticism=20
>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>don't=20
>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>><BR>> =20
>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>and other=20
>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>that=20
>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>The Plate=20
>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>Delays are=20
>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>Waves new=20
>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>still=20
>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>with the=20
>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>choose=20
>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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>>> =
>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>> =
>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
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>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
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>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
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>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
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>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>A><BR>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>ancient user=20
>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>R>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>have been=20
>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>are=20
>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>band) is=20
>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>Plate=20
>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>cool, and=20
>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =
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>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>modeling,=20
>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>
>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
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>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>ONT=20
>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>spam,=20
>>> =
>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>> =
>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #88259 is a reply to message #88228] |
Tue, 17 July 2007 19:15 |
jp
Messages: 65
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james--
thanks--
hadn't thought of that
jp
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>neil--
>>thanks
>>this is what i suspected all along--
>>btw--
>>i'm adding an internal HD to my G4--
>>can i format it in OS 9.2.2
>>while i have OS 10.2 also on my mac?
>>jp
>>
>
>Yes. Best if you install OSX on one drive and OS 9 on another if your going
>to run Paris on the OS9 drive.
>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>
>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dale,
>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>Crap,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>
>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dale,
>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>> >snare.
>>>> >Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>=
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
=
>>>>spam, =3D
>>>> >and=3D20
>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>fer=3D
>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>=
>>>>your=20
>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>>you're not=20
>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
>=
>>>>them to=20
>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>=
>>>>or=20
>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>ks=20
>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer=20
>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and=20
>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>will be=20
>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>>some=20
>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>or=20
>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>><<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>of those=20
>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>criticism=20
>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>don't=20
>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>and other=20
>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>> =
>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>> =
>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>
>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>> =
>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>0px;=20
>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>the=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>ancient user=20
>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>R>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>have been=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>are=20
>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>band) is=20
>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>Plate=20
>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>cool, and=20
>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>modeling,=20
>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>
>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>ONT=20
>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam,=20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>> =
>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris Perspective: [message #88260 is a reply to message #88226] |
Tue, 17 July 2007 19:16 |
jp
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Ted--
you betcha
jp
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>Yes. Thanks for posting "Francesca" by the way. It was nice to hear it again.
>
>Ted
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>neil--
>>thanks
>>this is what i suspected all along--
>>btw--
>>i'm adding an internal HD to my G4--
>>can i format it in OS 9.2.2
>>while i have OS 10.2 also on my mac?
>>jp
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>
>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dale,
>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>Crap,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>
>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dale,
>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>> >snare.
>>>> >Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>=
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
=
>>>>spam, =3D
>>>> >and=3D20
>>>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>>>fer=3D
>>>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Plate is mono in so =
>>>>post pan won't=20
>>>>matter nor</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will it hurt. Paris Room is =
>>>>stereo in so that=20
>>>>might help</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to maintain post pan settings. =
>>>>The key is to=20
>>>>'blend' the</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>two to help sculpt the ambience around
>>>=
>>>>your=20
>>>>source.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use the best qualities of =
>>>>each. I like=20
>>>>the plates longer</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decays much of the time but very =
>>>>softly. The=20
>>>>room can</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get dense and flutter too much if =
>>>>you're not=20
>>>>careful.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just play with small amounts and mix
>=
>>>>them to=20
>>>>enhance</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums
>>>=
>>>>or=20
>>>>whatever.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always a crap shoot.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crap,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"dale" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:46945223$1@linux">news:46945223$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>ks=20
>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer=20
>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and=20
>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>will be=20
>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>>some=20
>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>or=20
>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>><<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>of those=20
>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>criticism=20
>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>don't=20
>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>and other=20
>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>> =
>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>> =
>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>
>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>> =
>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>0px;=20
>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On=20
>>>> 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =
>>>>=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:jpj@jpj=
>>>>ones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>=
>>>>;>>i=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about =
>>>>the=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>room=3D20<BR>> reverb--<BR>>>i'm an =
>>>>ancient user=20
>>>> and don't have any plug-ins or =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>>> revised<BR>>>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR=
>>>>>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D<BR>>nt"=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20'>mail=
>>>>to:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20</A><B=
>>>>R>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other =
>>>>have been=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>making our=3D20<BR>> way thru the new analog=20
>>>> botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> resolved in stating that Paris FX =
>>>>are=20
>>>> were=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 =
>>>>band) is=20
>>>> very =3D<BR>>good for=3D20<BR>> most applications. The =
>>>>Plate=20
>>>> verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> right up with the best. The Gate is =
>>>>cool, and=20
>>>> is=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>=
>>>>;>><BR>>>>With=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the=20
>>>> new=3D20<BR>> standards<BR>>>>in plugins =
>>>>modeling,=20
>>>> Paris's plugins after 10 =3D<BR>>years=3D20<BR>> are still =
>>>>
>>>> holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best=20
>>>> of=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><F=
>>>>ONT=20
>>>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>>>spam,=20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>>>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
>>>> =
>>>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>>>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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