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| Re: Cubase 4 [message #87541 is a reply to message #87535] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 10:10   |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Bill,
Once you've got all of your VST I/O set up for a project and you are using a
bunch of external gear. Close cubase, turn off your computer, then reboot
and launch Cubase and tell me if all of your patching has been saved or if
you've got to go back and repatch at least some of it.
this is a big problem if you're using lots of analog gear in a mix. I've to
26 analog I/O in my rig and 20+ analog outboard processors. this can be a
big issue if I've got a mix happening with lots of stuff patched in, then I
reopen the project and my patching is not working and I have to reinvent the
wheel.
Deej
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:468bc120@linux...
>I recently upgraded to C4 from SX1. I've been using Samplitude up 'til now,
>but got kind of fed up with certain Sam limitations.
>
> I am so impressed with C4 and it's capabilities. I love patching in
> outboard f/x with delay compensation. I actually dig many of the included
> f/x plugs and the Studio eq is not too shabby. I was just messing with the
> envelope shaper on a snare and could get a ton of control with it (trick I
> just found: when snare fills need more oomph, automate the release time
> and open it up for the fill - makes them big and ballsy).
>
> One of the reasons I switched away from Sam is it has a kind of incomplete
> or sloppy aspect to it. They add new features but don't complete or
> integrate them fully. C4 is totally the opposite - a very slick, pro bit
> o' kit.
>
> I'm contemplating something DJ will no doubt appreciate. There are some
> excellent f/x in Sam I would like to be able to patch into from C4, but
> they are proprietary. Can I run Sam on a separate machine and patch via
> the sends out thru ADAT LP into a channel in Sam with the f/x on it? I
> wonder if it senses the actual delay or just computes it from the driver
> latency settings? If it just computes it will not compensate for the delay
> into and out of the Sam machine's sound card. When I get time to install
> sam on the other machine I'll check it out.
>
> If you are looking for a really excellent, mature and robust DAW I do
> recommend C4.
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| Re: Cubase 4 [message #87559 is a reply to message #87541] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 13:14 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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I only have a couple things patched so far, and they always come back.
DJ wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Once you've got all of your VST I/O set up for a project and you are using a
> bunch of external gear. Close cubase, turn off your computer, then reboot
> and launch Cubase and tell me if all of your patching has been saved or if
> you've got to go back and repatch at least some of it.
> this is a big problem if you're using lots of analog gear in a mix. I've to
> 26 analog I/O in my rig and 20+ analog outboard processors. this can be a
> big issue if I've got a mix happening with lots of stuff patched in, then I
> reopen the project and my patching is not working and I have to reinvent the
> wheel.
> Deej
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:468bc120@linux...
>> I recently upgraded to C4 from SX1. I've been using Samplitude up 'til now,
>> but got kind of fed up with certain Sam limitations.
>>
>> I am so impressed with C4 and it's capabilities. I love patching in
>> outboard f/x with delay compensation. I actually dig many of the included
>> f/x plugs and the Studio eq is not too shabby. I was just messing with the
>> envelope shaper on a snare and could get a ton of control with it (trick I
>> just found: when snare fills need more oomph, automate the release time
>> and open it up for the fill - makes them big and ballsy).
>>
>> One of the reasons I switched away from Sam is it has a kind of incomplete
>> or sloppy aspect to it. They add new features but don't complete or
>> integrate them fully. C4 is totally the opposite - a very slick, pro bit
>> o' kit.
>>
>> I'm contemplating something DJ will no doubt appreciate. There are some
>> excellent f/x in Sam I would like to be able to patch into from C4, but
>> they are proprietary. Can I run Sam on a separate machine and patch via
>> the sends out thru ADAT LP into a channel in Sam with the f/x on it? I
>> wonder if it senses the actual delay or just computes it from the driver
>> latency settings? If it just computes it will not compensate for the delay
>> into and out of the Sam machine's sound card. When I get time to install
>> sam on the other machine I'll check it out.
>>
>> If you are looking for a really excellent, mature and robust DAW I do
>> recommend C4.
>
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| Re: Cubase 4 [message #87561 is a reply to message #87559] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 13:20 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Well that's good Bill. I hope you don't encounter the sporadic problems that
I have here. It's not just me either. Others have reported this with Cubase
4. I do agree that (other than my few"issues") it's a dream program and is
one of the main reasons I decided tha it was time to learn a new DAW. Don't
count on a lot of support from the cubase.net forum. this place is more
useful than the Cubase user's group for Cubase problems because Neil and
John are here.
;o)
Deej
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:468c010e@linux...
>I only have a couple things patched so far, and they always come back.
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> Once you've got all of your VST I/O set up for a project and you are
>> using a bunch of external gear. Close cubase, turn off your computer,
>> then reboot and launch Cubase and tell me if all of your patching has
>> been saved or if you've got to go back and repatch at least some of it.
>> this is a big problem if you're using lots of analog gear in a mix. I've
>> to 26 analog I/O in my rig and 20+ analog outboard processors. this can
>> be a big issue if I've got a mix happening with lots of stuff patched in,
>> then I reopen the project and my patching is not working and I have to
>> reinvent the wheel.
>> Deej
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:468bc120@linux...
>>> I recently upgraded to C4 from SX1. I've been using Samplitude up 'til
>>> now, but got kind of fed up with certain Sam limitations.
>>>
>>> I am so impressed with C4 and it's capabilities. I love patching in
>>> outboard f/x with delay compensation. I actually dig many of the
>>> included f/x plugs and the Studio eq is not too shabby. I was just
>>> messing with the envelope shaper on a snare and could get a ton of
>>> control with it (trick I just found: when snare fills need more oomph,
>>> automate the release time and open it up for the fill - makes them big
>>> and ballsy).
>>>
>>> One of the reasons I switched away from Sam is it has a kind of
>>> incomplete or sloppy aspect to it. They add new features but don't
>>> complete or integrate them fully. C4 is totally the opposite - a very
>>> slick, pro bit o' kit.
>>>
>>> I'm contemplating something DJ will no doubt appreciate. There are some
>>> excellent f/x in Sam I would like to be able to patch into from C4, but
>>> they are proprietary. Can I run Sam on a separate machine and patch via
>>> the sends out thru ADAT LP into a channel in Sam with the f/x on it? I
>>> wonder if it senses the actual delay or just computes it from the driver
>>> latency settings? If it just computes it will not compensate for the
>>> delay into and out of the Sam machine's sound card. When I get time to
>>> install sam on the other machine I'll check it out.
>>>
>>> If you are looking for a really excellent, mature and robust DAW I do
>>> recommend C4.
>>
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| Re: Cubase 4 [message #87595 is a reply to message #87591] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 06:08 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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There's about 20 more here:
http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=27
Don't get me wrong, it's a great program and I love it, but there are bugs
and instabilities that pros in the cubase forum mention regularly to such
severity that they can't move over to C4 yet.
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>John, you are the only person I have heard say that.
>
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>0414 913 247
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>"John" <aint@itawful.com> wrote in message news:468bdf9a@linux...
>> C4 is fantastic and also buggy. They developers are pretty sloppy and
as
>> a result the app is NOT one that many can use in a pro studio. I love
it
>> but it does have warts. As long as it does what you want then it's
>> fantastic. Like I said, I love it.
>>
>> Check out my notes.
>>
>> www.kfocus.com/cubase
>>
>> Bill L wrote:
>>> I recently upgraded to C4 from SX1. I've been using Samplitude up 'til
>>> now, but got kind of fed up with certain Sam limitations.
>>>
>>> I am so impressed with C4 and it's capabilities. I love patching in
>>> outboard f/x with delay compensation. I actually dig many of the included
>>> f/x plugs and the Studio eq is not too shabby. I was just messing with
>>> the envelope shaper on a snare and could get a ton of control with it
>>> (trick I just found: when snare fills need more oomph, automate the
>>> release time and open it up for the fill - makes them big and ballsy).
>>>
>>> One of the reasons I switched away from Sam is it has a kind of
>>> incomplete or sloppy aspect to it. They add new features but don't
>>> complete or integrate them fully. C4 is totally the opposite - a very
>>> slick, pro bit o' kit.
>>>
>>> I'm contemplating something DJ will no doubt appreciate. There are some
>>> excellent f/x in Sam I would like to be able to patch into from C4, but
>>> they are proprietary. Can I run Sam on a separate machine and patch via
>>> the sends out thru ADAT LP into a channel in Sam with the f/x on it?
I
>>> wonder if it senses the actual delay or just computes it from the driver
>>> latency settings? If it just computes it will not compensate for the
>>> delay into and out of the Sam machine's sound card. When I get time to
>>> install sam on the other machine I'll check it out.
>>>
>>> If you are looking for a really excellent, mature and robust DAW I do
>>> recommend C4.
>
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