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| Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78883 is a reply to message #78882] |
Tue, 23 January 2007 13:40   |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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Hi Chris,
I know Windows 32 can only by default use up to 2G, but I'm running the /3G
switch to
let the apps access more. Is that what you are referring to, or is there a
board
dependancy with this one that will limit me otherwise?
So as long as I just setup a raid with the silicon image controller I should
be fine?
I'm thinking of going raid for the samples drive.
Thanks!
Dedric
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45b672df@linux...
> Hi Dedric,
> I use it at home with the quad 6700 works like a champ.
> 3x uads pci
> 1x firewire 800
>
> The only issues I have with it are that the JMicron sata controllers don't
> work well for raid but the lintel and silicon images work great.
>
> If you have that many PCI slots filled and you have 4 gigs windows will
> only see 2 gigs of your 4 gigs in 32bit xp.
>
> It will see the 4 gigs in win 64 pro, vista and linux.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Anyone using the Asus P5W DH Deluxe with a core 2 or quad core? Any
>> problems or issues to watch out for.
>> I'm also considering the P5WDG2 or Intel D975XBX2KR, but would prefer to
>> have 3 PCI slots for 2 UAD-1s and
>> and RME card, for now at least until I upgrade the audio card to PCIe
>> (this is for Nuendo, btw).
>>
>> Feel free to email me offline to since it's ot - dedric at keyofd dot
>> net.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dedric
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78884 is a reply to message #78883] |
Tue, 23 January 2007 14:50 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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4GB with a 32 bit OS is like the speed limit. No way to get around it. The
various switches really just allow apps to move around the 2GB (tops) of
physical memory they use.
http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=69
We've done the benchmarks on (fairly) big iron. It makes a real difference
running a 64 bit OS with large amounts of memory.
TCB
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>Hi Chris,
>
>I know Windows 32 can only by default use up to 2G, but I'm running the
/3G
>switch to
>let the apps access more. Is that what you are referring to, or is there
a
>board
>dependancy with this one that will limit me otherwise?
>
>So as long as I just setup a raid with the silicon image controller I should
>be fine?
>I'm thinking of going raid for the samples drive.
>
>Thanks!
>Dedric
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:45b672df@linux...
>> Hi Dedric,
>> I use it at home with the quad 6700 works like a champ.
>> 3x uads pci
>> 1x firewire 800
>>
>> The only issues I have with it are that the JMicron sata controllers don't
>> work well for raid but the lintel and silicon images work great.
>>
>> If you have that many PCI slots filled and you have 4 gigs windows will
>> only see 2 gigs of your 4 gigs in 32bit xp.
>>
>> It will see the 4 gigs in win 64 pro, vista and linux.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Anyone using the Asus P5W DH Deluxe with a core 2 or quad core? Any
>>> problems or issues to watch out for.
>>> I'm also considering the P5WDG2 or Intel D975XBX2KR, but would prefer
to
>>> have 3 PCI slots for 2 UAD-1s and
>>> and RME card, for now at least until I upgrade the audio card to PCIe
>>> (this is for Nuendo, btw).
>>>
>>> Feel free to email me offline to since it's ot - dedric at keyofd dot
>>> net.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dedric
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
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| Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78885 is a reply to message #78883] |
Tue, 23 January 2007 14:33 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Dedric,
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I know Windows 32 can only by default use up to 2G, but I'm running the /3G
> switch to
> let the apps access more. Is that what you are referring to, or is there a
> board
> dependancy with this one that will limit me otherwise?
With 3 UAD cards in the machine my motherboard will only report 2 gigs
to windows whether or not I have the 3 gig switch or not. Also any of
the BIOS settings that effect that memory hole don't seem to to effect
it. With just the 2 in it may act differently for you.
>
> So as long as I just setup a raid with the silicon image controller I should
> be fine?
I'm using a IDE OS and DVD drive
2x sata in raid 0 for samples on the Intel controller
1 drive on intel in removable
2x sata internal on silicon image.
Seems to work fine.
> I'm thinking of going raid for the samples drive.
>
> Thanks!
> Dedric
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:45b672df@linux...
>> Hi Dedric,
>> I use it at home with the quad 6700 works like a champ.
>> 3x uads pci
>> 1x firewire 800
>>
>> The only issues I have with it are that the JMicron sata controllers don't
>> work well for raid but the lintel and silicon images work great.
>>
>> If you have that many PCI slots filled and you have 4 gigs windows will
>> only see 2 gigs of your 4 gigs in 32bit xp.
>>
>> It will see the 4 gigs in win 64 pro, vista and linux.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Anyone using the Asus P5W DH Deluxe with a core 2 or quad core? Any
>>> problems or issues to watch out for.
>>> I'm also considering the P5WDG2 or Intel D975XBX2KR, but would prefer to
>>> have 3 PCI slots for 2 UAD-1s and
>>> and RME card, for now at least until I upgrade the audio card to PCIe
>>> (this is for Nuendo, btw).
>>>
>>> Feel free to email me offline to since it's ot - dedric at keyofd dot
>>> net.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dedric
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78886 is a reply to message #78883] |
Tue, 23 January 2007 14:35 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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this is the best up to date info on the 3/gb deal.
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/08/22/218527. aspx
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I know Windows 32 can only by default use up to 2G, but I'm running the /3G
> switch to
> let the apps access more. Is that what you are referring to, or is there a
> board
> dependancy with this one that will limit me otherwise?
>
> So as long as I just setup a raid with the silicon image controller I should
> be fine?
> I'm thinking of going raid for the samples drive.
>
> Thanks!
> Dedric
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:45b672df@linux...
>> Hi Dedric,
>> I use it at home with the quad 6700 works like a champ.
>> 3x uads pci
>> 1x firewire 800
>>
>> The only issues I have with it are that the JMicron sata controllers don't
>> work well for raid but the lintel and silicon images work great.
>>
>> If you have that many PCI slots filled and you have 4 gigs windows will
>> only see 2 gigs of your 4 gigs in 32bit xp.
>>
>> It will see the 4 gigs in win 64 pro, vista and linux.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Anyone using the Asus P5W DH Deluxe with a core 2 or quad core? Any
>>> problems or issues to watch out for.
>>> I'm also considering the P5WDG2 or Intel D975XBX2KR, but would prefer to
>>> have 3 PCI slots for 2 UAD-1s and
>>> and RME card, for now at least until I upgrade the audio card to PCIe
>>> (this is for Nuendo, btw).
>>>
>>> Feel free to email me offline to since it's ot - dedric at keyofd dot
>>> net.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dedric
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78889 is a reply to message #78885] |
Tue, 23 January 2007 15:07 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Hi Chris,
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45b68dac$1@linux...
> With 3 UAD cards in the machine my motherboard will only report 2 gigs to
> windows whether or not I have the 3 gig switch or not. Also any of the
> BIOS settings that effect that memory hole don't seem to to effect it.
> With just the 2 in it may act differently for you.
Ouch. That could be a problem then. Hopefully that's related to 3 UAD-1s,
and not just UAD-1s, or using all three PCI slots.
I'll have to be sure I have a return policy for that board first.
Thanks,
Dedric
>>
>> So as long as I just setup a raid with the silicon image controller I
>> should be fine?
>
> I'm using a IDE OS and DVD drive
> 2x sata in raid 0 for samples on the Intel controller
> 1 drive on intel in removable
> 2x sata internal on silicon image.
>
> Seems to work fine.
>
>
>> I'm thinking of going raid for the samples drive.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dedric
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:45b672df@linux...
>>> Hi Dedric,
>>> I use it at home with the quad 6700 works like a champ.
>>> 3x uads pci
>>> 1x firewire 800
>>>
>>> The only issues I have with it are that the JMicron sata controllers
>>> don't work well for raid but the lintel and silicon images work great.
>>>
>>> If you have that many PCI slots filled and you have 4 gigs windows will
>>> only see 2 gigs of your 4 gigs in 32bit xp.
>>>
>>> It will see the 4 gigs in win 64 pro, vista and linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>> Anyone using the Asus P5W DH Deluxe with a core 2 or quad core? Any
>>>> problems or issues to watch out for.
>>>> I'm also considering the P5WDG2 or Intel D975XBX2KR, but would prefer
>>>> to have 3 PCI slots for 2 UAD-1s and
>>>> and RME card, for now at least until I upgrade the audio card to PCIe
>>>> (this is for Nuendo, btw).
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to email me offline to since it's ot - dedric at keyofd dot
>>>> net.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dedric
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78891 is a reply to message #78886] |
Tue, 23 January 2007 15:14 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Interesting. Regardless of the actual function of the /3G switch, it makes
a significant difference
with Nuendo and loading sample libraries, even with only 2G of ram, so I
guess that just implies
libraries need more of the user virtual address space, or there isn't as
much of it available for
secondary apps to access normally.
Before adding the switch, Nuendo would at times toss up memory errors when
approaching 1.6G used, and would
at least come to a standstill. But after setting it (with userva=2770 I
believe - for UAD-1s) I can load down memory at will,
though I watch it carefully to be sure I'm not killing Windows n the
process. I've actually had Nuendo run with less than 100M
of free Ram, inadvertantly. It runs fine with a bit over 200M free. With
sample libraries, that last bit can make a significant
difference.
Regards,
Dedric
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45b68e55$1@linux...
> this is the best up to date info on the 3/gb deal.
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/08/22/218527. aspx
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I know Windows 32 can only by default use up to 2G, but I'm running the
>> /3G switch to
>> let the apps access more. Is that what you are referring to, or is there
>> a board
>> dependancy with this one that will limit me otherwise?
>>
>> So as long as I just setup a raid with the silicon image controller I
>> should be fine?
>> I'm thinking of going raid for the samples drive.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dedric
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:45b672df@linux...
>>> Hi Dedric,
>>> I use it at home with the quad 6700 works like a champ.
>>> 3x uads pci
>>> 1x firewire 800
>>>
>>> The only issues I have with it are that the JMicron sata controllers
>>> don't work well for raid but the lintel and silicon images work great.
>>>
>>> If you have that many PCI slots filled and you have 4 gigs windows will
>>> only see 2 gigs of your 4 gigs in 32bit xp.
>>>
>>> It will see the 4 gigs in win 64 pro, vista and linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>> Anyone using the Asus P5W DH Deluxe with a core 2 or quad core? Any
>>>> problems or issues to watch out for.
>>>> I'm also considering the P5WDG2 or Intel D975XBX2KR, but would prefer
>>>> to have 3 PCI slots for 2 UAD-1s and
>>>> and RME card, for now at least until I upgrade the audio card to PCIe
>>>> (this is for Nuendo, btw).
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to email me offline to since it's ot - dedric at keyofd dot
>>>> net.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dedric
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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