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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84452 is a reply to message #84448] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 08:59   |
Tom Bruhl
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Hey Deej,
The Opteron 185 slips into a 939 socket? I thought the
X2 4800 was the fastest CPU for that socket? Keep me
informed!
I'm loving my 939 with the AMD X2 4800 for Cubase.
I'm not tracking with it though. Just VSTi s and MIDI.
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464734e7@linux...
It's not latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable. =
It's an=20
AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will be a =
problem if=20
you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably something you'll want =
to=20
upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan to use it for audio. You =
should=20
be able to upgrade the CPU to an Opteron 185 (2.6GHz per core) and =
have a=20
nice machine to run a native system, or pull the CPU and load an AMD =
64 3800=20
single core CPU to run it with Paris. If you like to overclock, the =
3800 x 2=20
has a pretty good track record for some major MHz boosting.
Deej
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message =
news:46472b73@linux...
> Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.
> http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8
>
> Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer / =
AMD=20
> Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX =
Mid-Tower Case=20
> with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power Supply
>
> $399 Tiger Direct
>
> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up with =
> processors, but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking this out.
>
> I'll be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.
>
> Bill L=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Opteron 185 slips into a 939 =
socket? I=20
thought the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>X2 4800 was the fastest CPU for that =
socket? =20
Keep me</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>informed!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm loving my 939 with the AMD X2 4800 =
for=20
Cubase.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not tracking with it though. =
Just VSTi s=20
and MIDI.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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wrote in=20
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href=3D"news:464734e7@linux">news:464734e7@linux</A>...</DIV>It's not=20
latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable. It's an=20
<BR>AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will be a =
problem=20
if <BR>you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably something =
you'll want=20
to <BR>upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan to use it for =
audio. You=20
should <BR>be able to upgrade the CPU to an Opteron 185 (2.6GHz per =
core) and=20
have a <BR>nice machine to run a native system, or pull the CPU and =
load an=20
AMD 64 3800 <BR>single core CPU to run it with Paris. If you like to=20
overclock, the 3800 x 2 <BR>has a pretty good track record for some =
major MHz=20
boosting.<BR><BR>Deej<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Bill L" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:bill@billlorentzen.com">bill@billlorentzen.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
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href=3D"news:46472b73@linux">news:46472b73@linux</A>...<BR>> Here=20
is a link to Tiger Direct's website.<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8">http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8</A><BR>><=
BR>> =20
Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer / =
AMD=20
<BR>> Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX =
Mid-Tower=20
Case <BR>> with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power =
Supply<BR>><BR>> $399=20
Tiger Direct<BR>><BR>> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I =
have not=20
been keeping up with <BR>> processors, but I finally have to =
upgrade so I'm=20
checking this out.<BR>><BR>> I'll be running Cubase4 and =
Samplitude on=20
it.<BR>><BR>> Bill L <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84455 is a reply to message #84452] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 09:57 |
Deej [4]
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I'm running an Opteron 185 in my 939 system right now. 2600MHz per core. =
Woohoo!!!
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46473739$1@linux...
Hey Deej,
The Opteron 185 slips into a 939 socket? I thought the
X2 4800 was the fastest CPU for that socket? Keep me
informed!
I'm loving my 939 with the AMD X2 4800 for Cubase.
I'm not tracking with it though. Just VSTi s and MIDI.
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:464734e7@linux...
It's not latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable. =
It's an=20
AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will be a =
problem if=20
you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably something you'll =
want to=20
upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan to use it for audio. You =
should=20
be able to upgrade the CPU to an Opteron 185 (2.6GHz per core) and =
have a=20
nice machine to run a native system, or pull the CPU and load an AMD =
64 3800=20
single core CPU to run it with Paris. If you like to overclock, the =
3800 x 2=20
has a pretty good track record for some major MHz boosting.
Deej
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message =
news:46472b73@linux...
> Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.
> http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8
>
> Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer =
/ AMD=20
> Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX =
Mid-Tower Case=20
> with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power Supply
>
> $399 Tiger Direct
>
> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up =
with=20
> processors, but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking this =
out.
>
> I'll be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.
>
> Bill L=20
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm running an Opteron 185 in my 939 =
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now. 2600MHz per core. Woohoo!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46473739$1@linux">news:46473739$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Opteron 185 slips into a 939 =
socket? I=20
thought the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>X2 4800 was the fastest CPU for that=20
socket? Keep me</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>informed!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm loving my 939 with the AMD X2 =
4800 for=20
Cubase.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not tracking with it =
though. Just VSTi=20
s and MIDI.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
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href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A=20
href=3D"news:464734e7@linux">news:464734e7@linux</A>...</DIV>It's =
not=20
latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable. It's an=20
<BR>AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will be =
a=20
problem if <BR>you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably =
something=20
you'll want to <BR>upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan to =
use it for=20
audio. You should <BR>be able to upgrade the CPU to an Opteron 185 =
(2.6GHz=20
per core) and have a <BR>nice machine to run a native system, or =
pull the=20
CPU and load an AMD 64 3800 <BR>single core CPU to run it with =
Paris. If you=20
like to overclock, the 3800 x 2 <BR>has a pretty good track record =
for some=20
major MHz boosting.<BR><BR>Deej<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Bill L" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bill@billlorentzen.com">bill@billlorentzen.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46472b73@linux">news:46472b73@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8">http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8</A><BR>><=
BR>> =20
Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer / =
AMD=20
<BR>> Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX =
Mid-Tower Case <BR>> with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power=20
Supply<BR>><BR>> $399 Tiger Direct<BR>><BR>> Seems like =
a=20
ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up with <BR>> =
processors,=20
but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking this =
out.<BR>><BR>> I'll=20
be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.<BR>><BR>> Bill L=20
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84462 is a reply to message #84459] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 10:52 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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HI Bill,
If you are using a UAD then you are SOL. The Nforce 4 in general has
some PCI bottlenecks in it from the PCI to PCI-e bridge design.
Also that bundle is gonna be loud if your using it for audio.
The Asus A8R-MVP is the only board that is fully compatible with UADs.
It has 3 pci slots and 2 open PCI-e and you can mix PCI and PCI UADs
on it.
Like all these board they won't be around much ;longer. All the FX/X2
and Opteron 100 series chips are compatible with it. I is not Vista
compatible if that matters to you. But the majority of the 939 will not
have Vista compatibility either.
Chris
Bill L wrote:
> Thanks, Deej. You saved me from a painful time-waster. They list jerky
> audio and CPU spikes on the UAD site with NFORCE 3 & 4 chips and dual
> core AMD cpu.
>
> Such a sweet deal. Oh well. eBay here I come.
>
> Bill
>
> DJ wrote:
>> It's the NForce4 chipset. NForce3 works great. NForce4 .not so. Chris
>> Ludwig will know more about this than I.
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:46473858@linux...
>>> What is the problem with the NForce and UAD1? I've used earlier
>>> nForce and UADs with no problem (but then I seem to have a magic
>>> touch with computers and almost never run into compatibility
>>> issues). But if it is not compatible then it's a deal breaker,
>>> 'cause I can't mix w/out my UADs.
>>>
>>> If I had to upgrade the CPU then it's not really a great deal. As it
>>> is, it will certainly be much faster than the 2.1 Athlon XP (don't
>>> laugh) I'm using now. I figured I would add another gig of Ram and
>>> more drives, etc.
>>>
>>> Bill L
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> It's not latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely
>>>> upgradable. It's an AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The
>>>> chipset will be a problem if you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM
>>>> is probably something you'll want to upgrade to a pair of 1GB
>>>> sticks if you plan to use it for audio. You should be able to
>>>> upgrade the CPU to an Opteron 185 (2.6GHz per core) and have a nice
>>>> machine to run a native system, or pull the CPU and load an AMD 64
>>>> 3800 single core CPU to run it with Paris. If you like to
>>>> overclock, the 3800 x 2 has a pretty good track record for some
>>>> major MHz boosting.
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:46472b73@linux...
>>>>> Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8
>>>>>
>>>>> Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer
>>>>> / AMD Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX
>>>>> Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power Supply
>>>>>
>>>>> $399 Tiger Direct
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up
>>>>> with processors, but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking
>>>>> this out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L
>>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84465 is a reply to message #84462] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 10:59 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
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Chris..........the "only" fully compatible board? Wow!! that's pretty sad.
Deej
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:464751ea$1@linux...
> HI Bill,
> If you are using a UAD then you are SOL. The Nforce 4 in general has some
> PCI bottlenecks in it from the PCI to PCI-e bridge design.
> Also that bundle is gonna be loud if your using it for audio.
>
> The Asus A8R-MVP is the only board that is fully compatible with UADs. It
> has 3 pci slots and 2 open PCI-e and you can mix PCI and PCI UADs on it.
> Like all these board they won't be around much ;longer. All the FX/X2 and
> Opteron 100 series chips are compatible with it. I is not Vista compatible
> if that matters to you. But the majority of the 939 will not have Vista
> compatibility either.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> Thanks, Deej. You saved me from a painful time-waster. They list jerky
>> audio and CPU spikes on the UAD site with NFORCE 3 & 4 chips and dual
>> core AMD cpu.
>>
>> Such a sweet deal. Oh well. eBay here I come.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> It's the NForce4 chipset. NForce3 works great. NForce4 .not so. Chris
>>> Ludwig will know more about this than I.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46473858@linux...
>>>> What is the problem with the NForce and UAD1? I've used earlier nForce
>>>> and UADs with no problem (but then I seem to have a magic touch with
>>>> computers and almost never run into compatibility issues). But if it is
>>>> not compatible then it's a deal breaker, 'cause I can't mix w/out my
>>>> UADs.
>>>>
>>>> If I had to upgrade the CPU then it's not really a great deal. As it
>>>> is, it will certainly be much faster than the 2.1 Athlon XP (don't
>>>> laugh) I'm using now. I figured I would add another gig of Ram and more
>>>> drives, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Bill L
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> It's not latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable.
>>>>> It's an AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will
>>>>> be a problem if you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably
>>>>> something you'll want to upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan
>>>>> to use it for audio. You should be able to upgrade the CPU to an
>>>>> Opteron 185 (2.6GHz per core) and have a nice machine to run a native
>>>>> system, or pull the CPU and load an AMD 64 3800 single core CPU to run
>>>>> it with Paris. If you like to overclock, the 3800 x 2 has a pretty
>>>>> good track record for some major MHz boosting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:46472b73@linux...
>>>>>> Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer /
>>>>>> AMD Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX
>>>>>> Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power Supply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $399 Tiger Direct
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up with
>>>>>> processors, but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking this out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L
>>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84475 is a reply to message #84462] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 15:28 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Don't know about that...I'm writing this to you on a 939 board, (ASROCK
with AMD Athlon 64 3500+), and using Vista...have been for months.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:464751ea$1@linux...
> HI Bill,
> If you are using a UAD then you are SOL. The Nforce 4 in general has some
> PCI bottlenecks in it from the PCI to PCI-e bridge design.
> Also that bundle is gonna be loud if your using it for audio.
>
> The Asus A8R-MVP is the only board that is fully compatible with UADs. It
> has 3 pci slots and 2 open PCI-e and you can mix PCI and PCI UADs on it.
> Like all these board they won't be around much ;longer. All the FX/X2 and
> Opteron 100 series chips are compatible with it. I is not Vista compatible
> if that matters to you. But the majority of the 939 will not have Vista
> compatibility either.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> Thanks, Deej. You saved me from a painful time-waster. They list jerky
>> audio and CPU spikes on the UAD site with NFORCE 3 & 4 chips and dual
>> core AMD cpu.
>>
>> Such a sweet deal. Oh well. eBay here I come.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> It's the NForce4 chipset. NForce3 works great. NForce4 .not so. Chris
>>> Ludwig will know more about this than I.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46473858@linux...
>>>> What is the problem with the NForce and UAD1? I've used earlier nForce
>>>> and UADs with no problem (but then I seem to have a magic touch with
>>>> computers and almost never run into compatibility issues). But if it is
>>>> not compatible then it's a deal breaker, 'cause I can't mix w/out my
>>>> UADs.
>>>>
>>>> If I had to upgrade the CPU then it's not really a great deal. As it
>>>> is, it will certainly be much faster than the 2.1 Athlon XP (don't
>>>> laugh) I'm using now. I figured I would add another gig of Ram and more
>>>> drives, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Bill L
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> It's not latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable.
>>>>> It's an AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will
>>>>> be a problem if you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably
>>>>> something you'll want to upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan
>>>>> to use it for audio. You should be able to upgrade the CPU to an
>>>>> Opteron 185 (2.6GHz per core) and have a nice machine to run a native
>>>>> system, or pull the CPU and load an AMD 64 3800 single core CPU to run
>>>>> it with Paris. If you like to overclock, the 3800 x 2 has a pretty
>>>>> good track record for some major MHz boosting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:46472b73@linux...
>>>>>> Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer /
>>>>>> AMD Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX
>>>>>> Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power Supply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $399 Tiger Direct
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up with
>>>>>> processors, but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking this out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L
>>>
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> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84476 is a reply to message #84460] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 16:43 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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What UA says is with dual core you cannot use 3 or 4
AMD Dual-Core CPU (Athlon X2/Opteron) with NVIDIA nForce4 / nForce3
based chipset
Symptom: Choppy Audio, CPU spiking.
* Systems may work fine with PCIe audio I/O device
(or FireWire device connected to PCIe>FireWire adapter)
* UAD-1 works via Magma expansion chassis
* Use Asus A8V series as a possible alternative (Via K8T800/K8T890
chipset)
* Issues do not exist with single core systems
* Issues do not exist with UAD-1e
AMD Dual Opteron / Dual-Core CPU (Athlon X2/Opteron) with NVIDIA nForce
Pro (2xxx-series) based chipset
Symptom: Choppy Audio, CPU spiking.
* Systems may work fine with PCIe audio I/O device
(or FireWire device connected to PCIe>FireWire adapter)
* UAD-1 works via Magma expansion chassis
* Use Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) as a possible alternative
* Issues do not exist with UAD-1e
DJ wrote:
> NForce 3 works great with UAD-1 cards. I'm using a Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra
> 939 right now with 4 x UAD-1's in a Magma. Rock solid. The GA-K8NS-939 works
> well too. Highly recommended for UAD-1 cards. You don't need the"ultra". All
> it provides is an extra LAN port and an extra SATA controller (which shares
> IRQ with PCI slots that you will need for audio or DSP cards so it's
> unusable on my system anyway.
>
> Deej
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> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:46474e65@linux...
>> Thanks, Deej. You saved me from a painful time-waster. They list jerky
>> audio and CPU spikes on the UAD site with NFORCE 3 & 4 chips and dual core
>> AMD cpu.
>>
>> Such a sweet deal. Oh well. eBay here I come.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> It's the NForce4 chipset. NForce3 works great. NForce4 .not so. Chris
>>> Ludwig will know more about this than I.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:46473858@linux...
>>>> What is the problem with the NForce and UAD1? I've used earlier nForce
>>>> and UADs with no problem (but then I seem to have a magic touch with
>>>> computers and almost never run into compatibility issues). But if it is
>>>> not compatible then it's a deal breaker, 'cause I can't mix w/out my
>>>> UADs.
>>>>
>>>> If I had to upgrade the CPU then it's not really a great deal. As it is,
>>>> it will certainly be much faster than the 2.1 Athlon XP (don't laugh)
>>>> I'm using now. I figured I would add another gig of Ram and more drives,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Bill L
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> It's not latest/greatest PCIe board, but it's definitely upgradable.
>>>>> It's an AGP/PCI based mobo with an NForce4 chipset. The chipset will be
>>>>> a problem if you plan to use UAD-1 cards. The RAM is probably something
>>>>> you'll want to upgrade to a pair of 1GB sticks if you plan to use it
>>>>> for audio. You should be able to upgrade the CPU to an Opteron 185
>>>>> (2.6GHz per core) and have a nice machine to run a native system, or
>>>>> pull the CPU and load an AMD 64 3800 single core CPU to run it with
>>>>> Paris. If you like to overclock, the 3800 x 2 has a pretty good track
>>>>> record for some major MHz boosting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:46472b73@linux...
>>>>>> Here is a link to Tiger Direct's website.
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yno3y8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asus A8N-SLI SE Socket 939 Barebone Kit / All-In-1 Inkjet Printer /
>>>>>> AMD Athlon X2 3800+ OEM / 250GB SATA HDD / 1GB DDR PC3200 / ATX
>>>>>> Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side / SLI 600 Watt Power Supply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $399 Tiger Direct
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like a ridiculously good deal. I have not been keeping up with
>>>>>> processors, but I finally have to upgrade so I'm checking this out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be running Cubase4 and Samplitude on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L
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| Re: How current is this computer? [message #84480 is a reply to message #84479] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 18:00 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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>and the New Nvidia chi sets used on the F series work fine.
This is the direction I'm headed..probably starting next week. I gotta have
some more horsepower soon. Still, I'm pretty darned happy with the
UAD-1/Magma route. A 13 slot Magma has 4 slots (#''s 1, 5, 7 & 11 on the
newer boards with the round cable and slots # 1, 5, 8 & 12 on the older ones
with the flat 80 pin ribbon cable) that will all share a single IRQ and if
inserted in a mobo PCI slot that doesn't share IRQ with the AGP (or whatever
other show stopper), they will function as a single PCI card on one
driver/IRQ. I'm using two of the newer model 13 slot Magmas with 4 x UAD-1
cards in one and 3 x RME HDSP cards in the other. It's the most rock solid
DAW I've ever built. I have also used a newer and older 13 slot Magma in
this same scenario and they worked great together. Hope the Tyan S2915 will
be the same. It won't be long until I start building this beast. I'm looking
for deals on Socket F Opteron 2220's (2.8GHz per core) right now. They are
quite a bit more than the 2218's (2.6GHz per core). A pair of 2218's can be
had these days for around $575.00, and it looks like prices are starting to
drop.
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4647b2c4$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
> Yes the boards that have popular chip sets on them are lucky enough to
> have Vista compatibility.
> The only compatible board still being made yes. Not sure why any
> motherboard maker would make new board based on chipset s that are EOL.
> The newer sockets and chip sets coming out for AMD stuff will have no
> backwards compatibility. UADs issues with those chip sets are nothing they
> can really do anything about. These are design flaws in the chip sets
> themselves. We tried ages ago when we first ran across the issue to find
> ways to make it work. There are also overall PCI performance issues on the
> Via chipset also. The Nforce 3 board works great with a single but with
> dual cores it's unpredictable. The Nforce 4 was pretty much useless over
> all for most any PCI audio device. NVidia strayed quite abit away from the
> PCI-e spec with the Nforce 4 so they could improve video/gaming
> performance. Of course this the vast majority of users and the Nforce 4 is
> an excellent gamer chip set.
> The Nforce 3 chipset over all was better but dual-core support was not
> optimized in them. This the case with the Opteron motherboards like the
> Tyan 2885. With single cores the board work fine but with dual cores all
> kinds of weird stuff happens. The S2895 works better but like the S2885 it
> still has issues because of the AMD 8131 chipset used on hte PCI-x bus.
> The 8131 chipset had a bunch of design flaws and timing and buss sensitive
> devices like the UAD and even the TC power core especially the MK1 would
> suffer from abnormal cpus loads and drop outs. The 8132 chipset used on
> the Super Micro boards and the New Nvidia chi sets used on the F series
> work fine. The current Intel chip sets work fine but like AMD they do have
> to rely on the motherboard manufacturers to properly lay out a board and
> not cut corners.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46475372@linux...
>>
>>> Chris..........the "only" fully compatible board? Wow!! that's pretty
>>> sad.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Asus A8V and Giga GA-K8NS 939 are fully compatible as well. Are you
>> talking about mobos that are currently still being made? Shux, I'm so
>> used to living in retroland, I don't think much about buying something 2
>> years old...I guess that's sorta' sad as well. UA better get up off their
>> collective hiney's PDQ and get something to market to address the
>> situation.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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