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| OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102149] |
Fri, 16 January 2009 04:31  |
Rich Lamanna
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OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply astounding.
Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is and
ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these file
formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
Thanks,
Rich
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| Re: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102151 is a reply to message #102149] |
Fri, 16 January 2009 05:02  |
Rich Lamanna
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http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna_interview
Here's an interview with Peter Neubacker.
Rich
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4970818d@linux...
> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
> astounding. Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
> functional in Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge),
> whatever that is and ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also
> imports and uses these file formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>
> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102163 is a reply to message #102149] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 11:04 |
Mike Bloomer
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Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8. Tried
the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to .wav
and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble. Somewhat
of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I have
also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much indistinguishable
from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
MB
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
>time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply astounding.
>Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
>Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is
and
>ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
file
>formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>
>http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>
>Thanks,
>Rich
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>
Every moment you spend watching TV is a moment you have surrendered your free will
King Cake Band
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102164 is a reply to message #102163] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 11:02 |
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Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass and
many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to work
against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
quick when you get the hang of it.
- K
On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
<tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8. Tried
> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to .wav
> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble. Somewhat
> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I have
> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much indistinguishable
> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
> MB
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102165 is a reply to message #102164] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 12:18 |
TC
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I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing I
ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system to a
new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So I'm
going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I just
assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
but apparently not.
Cheers,
TC
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass and
> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to work
> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
> quick when you get the hang of it.
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> - K
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> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8. Tried
>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to .wav
>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble. Somewhat
>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I have
>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much indistinguishable
>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>> MB
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102166 is a reply to message #102164] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 16:47 |
Ted Gerber
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Exactly the same here. Sax, violin, any single note voices
are great to use this on. Interestingly, I feel like the new
polyphonic capability crosses a line for me, and I can't
bring myself to use it. No logical explanation, just a bad feeling...
Ted
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass and
>many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
>useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to work
>against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>quick when you get the hang of it.
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>- K
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>On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
><tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8. Tried
>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
.wav
>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble. Somewhat
>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
have
>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much indistinguishable
>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>> MB
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102167 is a reply to message #102165] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 16:49 |
Ted Gerber
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Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
audio file folder, to keep things straight.
Ted
TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing I
>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system to a
>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So I'm
>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I just
>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>but apparently not.
>
>Cheers,
>
>TC
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>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
and
>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to
work
>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>
>> - K
>>
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>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
Tried
>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
.wav
>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble. Somewhat
>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
have
>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much indistinguishable
>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>> MB
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102169 is a reply to message #102163] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 18:07 |
Rich Lamanna
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Mike so what happens when you open up the plug in Paris? Does Paris crash?
What exactly happens, wondering if there is a workaround? Do you know anyone
who has tried using the Melodyne bridge or ReWire? The polyphonic version
looks totally incredible.
Rich
"Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8. Tried
> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to .wav
> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
> Somewhat
> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I have
> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
> indistinguishable
> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
> MB
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> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
>
>>time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>astounding.
>
>>Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
>
>>Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is
> and
>>ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
> file
>>formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>
>>http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Rich
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>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102170 is a reply to message #102164] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 18:10 |
Rich Lamanna
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Kerry so it looks like using this within Paris is not an option, kind of a
pain, but I've flown files in and out of Paris before editing with Sonic
Foundry...... not too much of a problem.
Rich
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C5976B2F.D344%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass and
> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to
> work
> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
> quick when you get the hang of it.
>
> - K
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> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>> Tried
>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
>> .wav
>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>> Somewhat
>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>> correction
>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
>> have
>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>> indistinguishable
>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>> MB
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102171 is a reply to message #102167] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 18:19 |
Rich Lamanna
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Ted, So you can't run Paris and Melodyne at the same time. A bit of a pain.
What happens when you attempt to run both programs, how does the computer
behave?
Rich
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:49726e8e$1@linux...
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> Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
> same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
> audio file folder, to keep things straight.
>
> Ted
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> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing I
>>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system to a
>
>>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>
>>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So I'm
>
>>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I just
>
>>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>
>>but apparently not.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>TC
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>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
> and
>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to
> work
>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
> Tried
>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
> wav
>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>>> Somewhat
>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>> correction
>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
> have
>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>> indistinguishable
>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>>> version
>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>> MB
>>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102172 is a reply to message #102166] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 18:25 |
Rich Lamanna
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Funny you say "just a bad feeling", the polyphonic thing is kind of unreal,
it seems like unreality or something that just shouldn't be possible. Kind
of like taking the color purple and breaking it down into its component
colors, blue and red. It really is amazing that the dude figured this out.
Rich
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Exactly the same here. Sax, violin, any single note voices
> are great to use this on. Interestingly, I feel like the new
> polyphonic capability crosses a line for me, and I can't
> bring myself to use it. No logical explanation, just a bad feeling...
>
> Ted
>
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> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass and
>>many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
>>useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to
>>work
>>against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>>quick when you get the hang of it.
>>
>>- K
>>
>>
>>On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>><tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>>> Tried
>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
> wav
>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>> Somewhat
>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>> correction
>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
> have
>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>> indistinguishable
>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>> version
>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>> MB
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102174 is a reply to message #102171] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 19:43 |
Ted Gerber
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HI Rich -
I'm on Mac. Paris only works under OS9 (or older). Melodyne
only works under OSX. So while both are on the same computer -
G4 (I also have Melodyne Plugin on my G5 where Logic 8 is) -
they obviously can't work concurrently, I have to reboot from
one OS to the other. Big drag, but you get used to it. I am
planning on switching to PC for Paris for all the updates Mike A has made
available on XP, but I would still have MDyne on the G5.
Ted
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Ted, So you can't run Paris and Melodyne at the same time. A bit of a pain.
>What happens when you attempt to run both programs, how does the computer
>behave?
>
>Rich
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>news:49726e8e$1@linux...
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>> Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
>> same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
>> audio file folder, to keep things straight.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing I
>>>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>>>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system to
a
>>
>>>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>>
>>>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So I'm
>>
>>>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>>>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I just
>>
>>>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>>
>>>but apparently not.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>TC
>>>
>>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
>> and
>>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic.
Very
>>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix
to
>> work
>>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>>
>>>> - K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>> Tried
>>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files
to
>> wav
>>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>>>> Somewhat
>>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>>> correction
>>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done.
I
>> have
>>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>>> indistinguishable
>>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>>>> version
>>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>>> MB
>>>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102175 is a reply to message #102173] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 19:48 |
Ted Gerber
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Melodyne comes as a standalone 8 track editor Melodyne Studio,
and as a plugin which works with most all current DAWS. The tricky thing
is that you have to "record" the audio to be
corrected into the plugin, and then make you adjustmenst. The file that plays
back is a new file created within the "shell" of the plugin, whereas Autotune
and others are "real time".
Ted
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>So Kerry can you use Melodyne within Logic?
>
>Rich
>
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C5976B2F.D344%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
and
>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to
>> work
>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>>> Tried
>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
>>> .wav
>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>> Somewhat
>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>> correction
>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
>>> have
>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>> indistinguishable
>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>> MB
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102176 is a reply to message #102149] |
Sat, 17 January 2009 21:36 |
Deej [5]
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"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
>time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply astounding.
>Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
>Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is
and
>ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
file
>formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>
>http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>
>Thanks,
>Rich
>
I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to revoice
chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you can
output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass ain't
working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want. Looks
like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102178 is a reply to message #102174] |
Sun, 18 January 2009 10:42 |
Rich Lamanna
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Ted, according to Mike Bloomer the Melodyne plug will not work in Paris? I'm
not sure what platform he is on. Not sure whether to get the full version or
cre8. I'm wondering if the full version will work via the Melodyne Bridge
with Paris in XP.
Rich
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:4972976a$1@linux...
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> HI Rich -
>
> I'm on Mac. Paris only works under OS9 (or older). Melodyne
> only works under OSX. So while both are on the same computer -
> G4 (I also have Melodyne Plugin on my G5 where Logic 8 is) -
> they obviously can't work concurrently, I have to reboot from
> one OS to the other. Big drag, but you get used to it. I am
> planning on switching to PC for Paris for all the updates Mike A has made
> available on XP, but I would still have MDyne on the G5.
>
> Ted
>
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>Ted, So you can't run Paris and Melodyne at the same time. A bit of a
>>pain.
>
>>What happens when you attempt to run both programs, how does the computer
>
>>behave?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>news:49726e8e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
>>> same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
>>> audio file folder, to keep things straight.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>>>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing I
>>>>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>>>>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system to
> a
>>>
>>>>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>>>
>>>>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So I'm
>>>
>>>>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>>>>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I just
>>>
>>>>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>>>
>>>>but apparently not.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>TC
>>>>
>>>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
>>> and
>>>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic.
> Very
>>>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix
> to
>>> work
>>>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one.
>>>>> Pretty
>>>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>>> Tried
>>>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files
> to
>>> wav
>>>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>
>>>>>> Somewhat
>>>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>>>> correction
>>>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done.
> I
>>> have
>>>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>>>> indistinguishable
>>>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>>>> MB
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102179 is a reply to message #102163] |
Sun, 18 January 2009 10:44 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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Mike, I'm assuming you're on PC as you're converting to wav files. Are you
familiar with the Melodyne Bridge? Have you tried it with Paris?
Rich
"Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:49721db7$1@linux...
>
> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8. Tried
> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to .wav
> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
> Somewhat
> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch correction
> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I have
> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
> indistinguishable
> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest version
> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
> MB
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
>
>>time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>astounding.
>
>>Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
>
>>Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is
> and
>>ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
> file
>>formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>
>>http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Rich
>>
>>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102180 is a reply to message #102178] |
Sun, 18 January 2009 13:48 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Rich -
I really have no knowledge of what might work on a PC, since
I'm a Mac user.
Ted
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Ted, according to Mike Bloomer the Melodyne plug will not work in Paris?
I'm
>not sure what platform he is on. Not sure whether to get the full version
or
>cre8. I'm wondering if the full version will work via the Melodyne Bridge
>with Paris in XP.
>
>Rich
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>news:4972976a$1@linux...
>>
>> HI Rich -
>>
>> I'm on Mac. Paris only works under OS9 (or older). Melodyne
>> only works under OSX. So while both are on the same computer -
>> G4 (I also have Melodyne Plugin on my G5 where Logic 8 is) -
>> they obviously can't work concurrently, I have to reboot from
>> one OS to the other. Big drag, but you get used to it. I am
>> planning on switching to PC for Paris for all the updates Mike A has made
>> available on XP, but I would still have MDyne on the G5.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>Ted, So you can't run Paris and Melodyne at the same time. A bit of a
>>>pain.
>>
>>>What happens when you attempt to run both programs, how does the computer
>>
>>>behave?
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:49726e8e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
>>>> same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
>>>> audio file folder, to keep things straight.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>>>>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing
I
>>>>>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>>>>>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system
to
>> a
>>>>
>>>>>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>>>>
>>>>>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So
I'm
>>>>
>>>>>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>>>>>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I
just
>>>>
>>>>>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>>>>
>>>>>but apparently not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>TC
>>>>>
>>>>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric
bass
>>>> and
>>>>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic.
>> Very
>>>>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix
>> to
>>>> work
>>>>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one.
>>>>>> Pretty
>>>>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>>>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>>>> Tried
>>>>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files
>> to
>>>> wav
>>>>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>
>>>>>>> Somewhat
>>>>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>>>>> correction
>>>>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done.
>> I
>>>> have
>>>>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>>>>> indistinguishable
>>>>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>>>>> MB
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102196 is a reply to message #102174] |
Sun, 18 January 2009 23:38 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Wasn't there an old OS9 version?
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>HI Rich -
>
>I'm on Mac. Paris only works under OS9 (or older). Melodyne
>only works under OSX. So while both are on the same computer -
>G4 (I also have Melodyne Plugin on my G5 where Logic 8 is) -
>they obviously can't work concurrently, I have to reboot from
>one OS to the other. Big drag, but you get used to it. I am
>planning on switching to PC for Paris for all the updates Mike A has made
>available on XP, but I would still have MDyne on the G5.
>
>Ted
>
>
>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>Ted, So you can't run Paris and Melodyne at the same time. A bit of a pain.
>
>>What happens when you attempt to run both programs, how does the computer
>
>>behave?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>news:49726e8e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
>>> same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
>>> audio file folder, to keep things straight.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>>>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing I
>>>>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>>>>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system to
>a
>>>
>>>>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>>>
>>>>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So I'm
>>>
>>>>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>>>>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I just
>>>
>>>>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>>>
>>>>but apparently not.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>TC
>>>>
>>>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
>>> and
>>>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic.
>Very
>>>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix
>to
>>> work
>>>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>>>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>>> Tried
>>>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files
>to
>>> wav
>>>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>
>>>>>> Somewhat
>>>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>>>> correction
>>>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done.
>I
>>> have
>>>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>>>> indistinguishable
>>>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>>>> MB
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102197 is a reply to message #102196] |
Sun, 18 January 2009 23:41 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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vs. 2.0
http://www.celemony.com/cms/?id=156&L=0
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Wasn't there an old OS9 version?
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>HI Rich -
>>
>>I'm on Mac. Paris only works under OS9 (or older). Melodyne
>>only works under OSX. So while both are on the same computer -
>>G4 (I also have Melodyne Plugin on my G5 where Logic 8 is) -
>>they obviously can't work concurrently, I have to reboot from
>>one OS to the other. Big drag, but you get used to it. I am
>>planning on switching to PC for Paris for all the updates Mike A has made
>>available on XP, but I would still have MDyne on the G5.
>>
>>Ted
>>
>>
>>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>Ted, So you can't run Paris and Melodyne at the same time. A bit of a
pain.
>>
>>>What happens when you attempt to run both programs, how does the computer
>>
>>>behave?
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:49726e8e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yup, had the same issue. I run it and Paris on the
>>>> same comp (have to reboot :{ ) and now save the mdd files into the PARIS
>>>> audio file folder, to keep things straight.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>>>>I have Cre8 and the plugin. I find I use the plugin more. One thing
I
>>>>>ran into yesterday (OSX) is that melodyne files get saved in the user
>>>>>profile on the system drive by default. I had moved my logic system
to
>>a
>>>>
>>>>>new computer and it couldn't find the melodyne audio files when I opened
>>>>
>>>>>an older session (luckily I had the old system drive backed up). So
I'm
>>>>
>>>>>going to make sure to use the save dialog within the plugin to specify
>>>>>the session folder.. Since I was using the plug within a session, I
just
>>>>
>>>>>assumed the files would be saved within the session audio files folder,
>>>>
>>>>>but apparently not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>TC
>>>>>
>>>>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric
bass
>>>> and
>>>>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic.
>>Very
>>>>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix
>>to
>>>> work
>>>>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>>>>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>>>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>>>> Tried
>>>>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files
>>to
>>>> wav
>>>>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>
>>>>>>> Somewhat
>>>>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>>>>> correction
>>>>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done.
>>I
>>>> have
>>>>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>>>>> indistinguishable
>>>>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>>>>> MB
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102204 is a reply to message #102176] |
Mon, 19 January 2009 12:07 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase? Right,
I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply amazing
technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have you been
able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
Rich
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
>
>>time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>astounding.
>
>>Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
>
>>Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is
> and
>>ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
> file
>>formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>
>>http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Rich
>>
>
> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to revoice
> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you can
> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass ain't
> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
> Looks
> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102208 is a reply to message #102204] |
Mon, 19 January 2009 13:04 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Hey Rich,
Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
back into the session.
David.
Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase? Right,
> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply amazing
> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have you been
> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>
> Rich
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a long
>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>> astounding.
>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional in
>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that is
>> and
>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
>> file
>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>
>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to revoice
>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you can
>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass ain't
>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>> Looks
>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102213 is a reply to message #102208] |
Mon, 19 January 2009 15:51 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version after
your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way which
I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
Thanks,
Rich
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
> Hey Rich,
>
> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that other
> plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug first then
> process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs in line, you
> have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will be out of time
> when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any plugs inserted
> before it, or edits in the edit window will have no affect because the
> audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best thing to do would be
> to render the audio file, open in a stand alone version (like the new
> Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import back into the session.
>
> David.
>
> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>> amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so,
>> have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>> long
>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>> astounding.
>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
>>>> in
>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>> is
>>> and
>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
>>> file
>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>> revoice
>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you can
>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>> ain't
>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>>> Looks
>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102214 is a reply to message #102213] |
Mon, 19 January 2009 16:05 |
TC
Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Easiest method is to export a stereo bounce (minus the track you are
goint to be processing), then export your target track. Bring both
tracks into Melodyne. then you can hear your guide/background track at
the same time you are working on your target track. Tune target track,
export, import back to paris.
Cheers,
TC
Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version after
> your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way which
> I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
> computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>> Hey Rich,
>>
>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that other
>> plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug first then
>> process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs in line, you
>> have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will be out of time
>> when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any plugs inserted
>> before it, or edits in the edit window will have no affect because the
>> audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best thing to do would be
>> to render the audio file, open in a stand alone version (like the new
>> Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import back into the session.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>> amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so,
>>> have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>> long
>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>> astounding.
>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
>>>>> in
>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>>> is
>>>> and
>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
>>>> file
>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>> revoice
>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you can
>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>> ain't
>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>>>> Looks
>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102216 is a reply to message #102208] |
Mon, 19 January 2009 18:42 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Good points. I found that I want all the "tuning" done first anyway, so I
would insert MDyne as the first plug each time, and
while you still have to be mindful that the audio is "loading up" and "playing
from" MDyne, at least the timing and other plugin issues are taken care of.
Ted
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Hey Rich,
>
>Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>back into the session.
>
>David.
>
>Very Deep Productions wrote:
>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase? Right,
>> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply amazing
>> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have you
been
>> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
long
>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>> astounding.
>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
in
>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
is
>>> and
>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
>>> file
>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to revoice
>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
can
>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass ain't
>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>>> Looks
>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102228 is a reply to message #102213] |
Tue, 20 January 2009 12:56 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
computers..
David.
Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version after
> your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way which
> I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
> computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>> Hey Rich,
>>
>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that other
>> plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug first then
>> process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs in line, you
>> have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will be out of time
>> when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any plugs inserted
>> before it, or edits in the edit window will have no affect because the
>> audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best thing to do would be
>> to render the audio file, open in a stand alone version (like the new
>> Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import back into the session.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>> amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so,
>>> have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>> long
>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>> astounding.
>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
>>>>> in
>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>>> is
>>>> and
>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses these
>>>> file
>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>> revoice
>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you can
>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>> ain't
>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>>>> Looks
>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102251 is a reply to message #102228] |
Thu, 22 January 2009 17:04 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Dave, I see said the blind man. So you can't sync Melodyne and a DAW in real
time, didn't realize that.
Thanks,
Rich
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:49763dd8@linux...
> The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
> computers..
>
> David.
>
> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
>> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
>> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way
>> which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
>> computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>> Hey Rich,
>>>
>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>> in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>> be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>> plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>> affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>> thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>> version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>> back into the session.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity?
>>>> If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>>> long
>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>>>> is
>>>>> and
>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>> these
>>>>> file
>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>> revoice
>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>>> can
>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>> ain't
>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102252 is a reply to message #102251] |
Thu, 22 January 2009 17:21 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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I never found it to be a problem, a tad inconvenient transferring tracks
between rigs but the actual process of using melodyne was very intuitive,
unlike that other program
just my $0.02 CAD
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:497913e0@linux...
> Dave, I see said the blind man. So you can't sync Melodyne and a DAW in
> real time, didn't realize that.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:49763dd8@linux...
>> The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
>> computers..
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
>>> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
>>> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way
>>> which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2
>>> separate computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>>> Hey Rich,
>>>>
>>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>>> in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio
>>>> will be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne,
>>>> any plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>>> affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>>> thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>>> version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>>> back into the session.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity?
>>>>> If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever
>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102253 is a reply to message #102251] |
Thu, 22 January 2009 18:24 |
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Yes, you can sync them using Melodyne Bridge or ReWire for the purposes of
playback. What is meant here is that Melodyne doesn't process in real-time
like Automatic mode on Autotune - you edit the tracks in Melodyne.
- K
On 1/22/09 5:04 PM, in article 497913e0@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
> Dave, I see said the blind man. So you can't sync Melodyne and a DAW in real
> time, didn't realize that.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:49763dd8@linux...
>> The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
>> computers..
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
>>> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
>>> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way
>>> which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
>>> computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>>> Hey Rich,
>>>>
>>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>>> in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>>> be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>>> plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>>> affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>>> thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>>> version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>>> back into the session.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity?
>>>>> If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>
>
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102254 is a reply to message #102251] |
Thu, 22 January 2009 19:19 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
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Senior Member |
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As mentioned, you CAN sync the application on another computer... BUT
not as a "real time" plugin of the first computer. The vocal file would
have to reside "on the other computer"... making backups a bit of a
pain. Keep in mind that Melodyne also keeps the reference file that you
"capture" in a folder inside the Melodyne application folder, unless you
tell it to store the file elsewhere before you begin (#1 beef with this
software). It's a real kludge either way. Better to do what TC said
and use the Cre8 or Studio version with reference tracks, then transfer
the finished file at the end.
David.
Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Dave, I see said the blind man. So you can't sync Melodyne and a DAW in real
> time, didn't realize that.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:49763dd8@linux...
>> The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
>> computers..
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
>>> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
>>> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way
>>> which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
>>> computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>>> Hey Rich,
>>>>
>>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>>> in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>>> be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>>> plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>>> affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>>> thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>>> version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>>> back into the session.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity?
>>>>> If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102270 is a reply to message #102214] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 05:35 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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TC................ Brilliant! Thanks for the feedback.
Rich
"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:497518cb@linux...
>
> Easiest method is to export a stereo bounce (minus the track you are goint
> to be processing), then export your target track. Bring both tracks into
> Melodyne. then you can hear your guide/background track at the same time
> you are working on your target track. Tune target track, export, import
> back to paris.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
>> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
>> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way
>> which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2 separate
>> computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>> Hey Rich,
>>>
>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>> in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>> be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>> plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>> affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>> thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>> version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>> back into the session.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity?
>>>> If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>>>>>> long
>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>>>>>> is
>>>>> and
>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>> these
>>>>> file
>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>> revoice
>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>>> can
>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>> ain't
>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102272 is a reply to message #102175] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 05:47 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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Ted, so the big difference here between the Melodyne plug and Autotune is
the real time issue. You still have to import the new file created by
Melodyne back into Paris, right? But will the plug automatically open the
*.paf file you're modifying within Paris simply by inserting the plug in the
track? If so this would at least eliminate the need to render the files out
of Paris.
Rich
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:49729880$1@linux...
>
> Melodyne comes as a standalone 8 track editor Melodyne Studio,
> and as a plugin which works with most all current DAWS. The tricky thing
> is that you have to "record" the audio to be
> corrected into the plugin, and then make you adjustmenst. The file that
> plays
> back is a new file created within the "shell" of the plugin, whereas
> Autotune
> and others are "real time".
>
> Ted
>
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>So Kerry can you use Melodyne within Logic?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>news:C5976B2F.D344%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> Done all the same things myself, including cello, viola, electric bass
> and
>>> many others, and flown them back and forth between PARIS and Logic. Very
>>> useful tool. I use the standalone version; I bounce a reference mix to
>
>>> work
>>> against and then export the tracks I need to work on one by one. Pretty
>>> quick when you get the hang of it.
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/17/09 11:04 AM, in article 49721db7$1@linux, "Mike Bloomer"
>>> <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Been using Melodyne for 3 or 4 years now. It's awesome. I have Cre8.
>
>>>> Tried
>>>> the plugin in Paris, it does not work.
>>>> Cre8 is a separate 8 channel editor. You have to convert the files to
>
>>>> .wav
>>>> and then import back to Paris. It is definitely worth the trouble.
>>>> Somewhat
>>>> of a learning curve but not as bad as say Cubase..... The pitch
>>>> correction
>>>> is pretty much transparent. You really can't tell when you're done. I
>
>>>> have
>>>> also used it to create vocal harmonies which are pretty much
>>>> indistinguishable
>>>> from "real" ones. It works on single note slide guitar.The newest
>>>> version
>>>> is polyphonic, which I am dying to try...
>>>> MB
>>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102274 is a reply to message #102216] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 05:58 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
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Ted, I like the idea of using the plug in and see it can be done within
Paris, at least on a Mac. Not sure if anyone is using the plug on a PC......
anyone?
Rich
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:49752c18$1@linux...
>
> Good points. I found that I want all the "tuning" done first anyway, so I
> would insert MDyne as the first plug each time, and
> while you still have to be mindful that the audio is "loading up" and
> "playing
> from" MDyne, at least the timing and other plugin issues are taken care
> of.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>Hey Rich,
>>
>>Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>
>>in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>
>>be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>back into the session.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>> Right,
>
>>> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>> amazing
>
>>> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have you
> been
>>> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
> long
>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>> astounding.
>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
> in
>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
> is
>>>> and
>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>> these
>>>> file
>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>> revoice
>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
> can
>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>> ain't
>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>
>>>> Looks
>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102279 is a reply to message #102274] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 09:41 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
Registered: March 2008
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"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Ted, I like the idea of using the plug in and see it can be done within
>Paris, at least on a Mac. Not sure if anyone is using the plug on a PC......
>anyone?
>
>Rich
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>news:49752c18$1@linux...
>>
>> Good points. I found that I want all the "tuning" done first anyway, so
I
>> would insert MDyne as the first plug each time, and
>> while you still have to be mindful that the audio is "loading up" and
>> "playing
>> from" MDyne, at least the timing and other plugin issues are taken care
>> of.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>Hey Rich,
>>>
>>>Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>
>>>in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>
>>>be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>>plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>>affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>>thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>>version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>>back into the session.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>> Right,
>>
>>>> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>>> amazing
>>
>>>> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have you
>> been
>>>> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for
a
>> long
>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
>> in
>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>> is
>>>>> and
>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>> these
>>>>> file
>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>> revoice
>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>> can
>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>> ain't
>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>>
>>>>> Looks
>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102280 is a reply to message #102279] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 09:42 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
Registered: March 2008
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Arrrghhh!!!....sorry. I was gonna ppost to check the FS site relative to Melodyne.......so
check the FS site relative to Melodyne.....
;)
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>
>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>Ted, I like the idea of using the plug in and see it can be done within
>
>>Paris, at least on a Mac. Not sure if anyone is using the plug on a PC......
>
>>anyone?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>news:49752c18$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Good points. I found that I want all the "tuning" done first anyway,
so
>I
>>> would insert MDyne as the first plug each time, and
>>> while you still have to be mindful that the audio is "loading up" and
>
>>> "playing
>>> from" MDyne, at least the timing and other plugin issues are taken care
>
>>> of.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>Hey Rich,
>>>>
>>>>Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>>use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>>other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>>first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>>
>>>>in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>>
>>>>be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>>>plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>>>affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>>>thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>>>version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>>>back into the session.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>
>>>>> Right,
>>>
>>>>> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>>>> amazing
>>>
>>>>> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have
you
>>> been
>>>>> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for
>a
>>> long
>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
>>> in
>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever
that
>>> is
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>> can
>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>
>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
want.
>>>
>>>>>> Looks
>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102281 is a reply to message #102273] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 08:43 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Senior Member |
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"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> skrev i melding
news:497b2062@linux...
> Erling, are you on PC or Mac?
I'm on a PC.
>So with the Plug you still have to import the new file created by Melodyne
>back into Paris after processing, right?
I havn't tested the Meloplugin in Paris at all since I found a solution that
worked for me with the standalone units, before the plugin came out. Had a
little test right now with the plugin inside Paris, as VST in Chainer, but
it seems that the plugin can't understand PAF files at all. So, maybe it
will work, if you're working with 16 bits wav-files inside Paris.
....and yes, I have to import the wav melo-file as a new one in Paris(that
automatic will be PAF if it's 24 bits wav) and manually change out the old
one in the Edit window.
> But will the plug automatically open the *.paf file you're modifying
> within Paris simply by inserting the plug into the track? If so this would
> at least eliminate the need to render the files out of Paris.
>
> Rich
Melodyne normally can't understand Parisfiles at all, so therefore this
export-import thing is one of the solutions, as far as I can see.
Erling
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49799998@linux...
>> Exactly what I'm doing too after seeking solutions with Melodyne in Paris
>> the last years.
>> Render the PAF-file to start from the beginning of the project in Paris,
>> export it as wave,
>> open it in Melodyne and do the tuning fixes,
>> save arrangement(for later use if you're not satisfied) and save the
>> audiofile from Start of reference track.
>> The new file will allways get a new name like *.melo.wav
>> Take away the dot before melo and save it.
>> Import it into the Parisproject, change out the "bad" file with the new
>> one and there you go.
>>
>> I had problems here to import the file with the dot, so I found out the
>> dot solution to work for me.
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> skrev i melding
>> news:49793abe@linux...
>>> Better to do what TC said and use the Cre8 or Studio version with
>>> reference tracks, then transfer the finished file at the end.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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