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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91013 is a reply to message #91011] |
Fri, 05 October 2007 18:32 |
DJ
Messages: 1124 Registered: July 2005
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"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:4706e4d2@linux...
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> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470692cb$1@linux...
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>> This is nice. I'm Crying!!!!!!!!!!! WAAA WAAAA WAAAA
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>> http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=152 &itemid=27515&action=news_details
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> Probably only around $12,000.00
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WOW!!!....I just checked their price list:
Here's what it says:
LE|C24 Pro Tools Studio Bundle
The LE|C24 Pro Tools Studio Bundle pairs C|24 with a 003T Rack Factory
system to provide the ultimate, professional project studio solution for the
budget-minded. You get all the tactile benefits of console mixing along with
plenty of analog, digital, and MIDI connections for your creative endeavors.
The bundle features award-winning Pro Tools LEŽ software and a collection of
top-quality plug-ins (worth over $3,000) that are ideal for mixing. You also
get the DV ToolkitT 2 option, which supercharges Pro Tools LE with added
support for up to 48 stereo audio tracks, several powerful plug-ins ideal
for music and post-production projects, and DigiSnake cables to connect
everything together.
a.. C|24
b.. 003 Rack Factory
c.. DV Toolkit 2
d.. C|24 TRS DigiSnake Kit
e.. Digidesign SynchronicT
f.. Digidesign HybridT
g.. Bomb Factory Pultec Bundle
h.. Bomb Factory FairchildT Bundle
i.. TL EveryPhaseT
Retail price: $12,995
Retail value: $16,759
Savings: $3,764
I'm getting pretty good at this stuff, I guess.
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91023 is a reply to message #91011] |
Fri, 05 October 2007 21:01 |
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I think around $6-7K. This where we thought Paris would be by now..Oh well.
On their site, they state that for $18K for the C24 and HD2Acel,96 io, some
plugins..Not bad for a full blow Pro Tools rig.
Let's give Digi some credit for AT least trying to address the abandoned
"Mid Market" segment.
For those of you who not that familiar with PT HD. PT HD 2acel is a hell
of a rig with alot of power. On a Nice MAc or PC (Multi-cores) you can run
alot dsp and Rtas plugins along with 130 tracks.. Yes, I knwo we can do that
with our Native apps, but, it's nto as smooth, flexible(routing) as this
solution. Especialy with this controller-C24.
So, before you start the Digi bash, take real hard look at what's being offered.
My thoughts these days is that the DAW audio companies (Hardware & Software)
want to nickel and dime you all the way to the top $20kPlus, 8 channels at
a time.
As well as, Steingberg. They really need a unit like this for Cubase and
Nuendo.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470692cb$1@linux...
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>> This is nice. I'm Crying!!!!!!!!!!! WAAA WAAAA WAAAA
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>> http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=152 &itemid=27515&action=news_details
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>Probably only around $12,000.00
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91024 is a reply to message #91023] |
Fri, 05 October 2007 21:20 |
DJ
Messages: 1124 Registered: July 2005
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470708a8$1@linux...
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> I think around $6-7K. This where we thought Paris would be by now..Oh
> well.
>
> On their site, they state that for $18K for the C24 and HD2Acel,96 io,
> some
> plugins..Not bad for a full blow Pro Tools rig.
>
> Let's give Digi some credit for AT least trying to address the abandoned
> "Mid Market" segment.
>
> For those of you who not that familiar with PT HD. PT HD 2acel is a hell
> of a rig with alot of power. On a Nice MAc or PC (Multi-cores) you can run
> alot dsp and Rtas plugins along with 130 tracks.. Yes, I knwo we can do
> that
> with our Native apps, but, it's nto as smooth, flexible(routing) as this
> solution. Especialy with this controller-C24.
>
> So, before you start the Digi bash, take real hard look at what's being
> offered.
> My thoughts these days is that the DAW audio companies (Hardware &
> Software)
> want to nickel and dime you all the way to the top $20kPlus, 8 channels at
> a time.
>
> As well as, Steingberg. They really need a unit like this for Cubase and
> Nuendo.
>
A similar controller for Nuendo costs over $20k.
http://www.arbiter.co.uk/wkaudio/index.htm
I think Digidesign has actually put together something that is pretty
attractive here. I just wonder there the got'chas are. There are always
got'cha's somewhere with Digidesign..........always.some critical
functionality they leave out that costs big time if you need it.
Wasn't it WC sync with the 001/ 002 and 003???....I can't remember.
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91025 is a reply to message #91024] |
Fri, 05 October 2007 21:55 |
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Yep .The 003 WC.Finicky.. But, HD..Smooth. I think Digi had to fight back
with:
-8 core16 core personal computers
-Apple's Logic Studio
-Steingberg Nuendo on 8 core 16 core personal computers.
I think they used their strenght with hardware to addred to Mid-Level pro
market with a Product like HD2 Acel and a killer controller that has 16
mic pres and 8 x2 submixer, Talk back functions and full comaptibility with
the Pro tools app. Nero zero latency...192 tracks @41/48k..96 tracks @96k..With
full completemnt of plugins. This is not LE/M-powered..We're talking HD.
Not that lame cripple ware. 18k from digi is looking really good.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470708a8$1@linux...
>>
>> I think around $6-7K. This where we thought Paris would be by now..Oh
>> well.
>>
>> On their site, they state that for $18K for the C24 and HD2Acel,96 io,
>> some
>> plugins..Not bad for a full blow Pro Tools rig.
>>
>> Let's give Digi some credit for AT least trying to address the abandoned
>> "Mid Market" segment.
>>
>> For those of you who not that familiar with PT HD. PT HD 2acel is a hell
>> of a rig with alot of power. On a Nice MAc or PC (Multi-cores) you can
run
>> alot dsp and Rtas plugins along with 130 tracks.. Yes, I knwo we can do
>> that
>> with our Native apps, but, it's nto as smooth, flexible(routing) as this
>> solution. Especialy with this controller-C24.
>>
>> So, before you start the Digi bash, take real hard look at what's being
>> offered.
>> My thoughts these days is that the DAW audio companies (Hardware &
>> Software)
>> want to nickel and dime you all the way to the top $20kPlus, 8 channels
at
>> a time.
>>
>> As well as, Steingberg. They really need a unit like this for Cubase and
>> Nuendo.
>>
>
>A similar controller for Nuendo costs over $20k.
>http://www.arbiter.co.uk/wkaudio/index.htm
>
>I think Digidesign has actually put together something that is pretty
>attractive here. I just wonder there the got'chas are. There are always
>got'cha's somewhere with Digidesign..........always.some critical
>functionality they leave out that costs big time if you need it.
>
>Wasn't it WC sync with the 001/ 002 and 003???....I can't remember.
>
>
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91035 is a reply to message #91025] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 00:23 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164 Registered: October 2006
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OK, so lemme get this straight - with this system, you buy/get a
C24 AND a digi-003, and you get to run a full version of PTHD
on it for about $12k (street) total?
Neil
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Yep .The 003 WC.Finicky.. But, HD..Smooth. I think Digi had to fight back
>with:
>
>-8 core16 core personal computers
>-Apple's Logic Studio
>-Steingberg Nuendo on 8 core 16 core personal computers.
>
>I think they used their strenght with hardware to addred to Mid-Level pro
>market with a Product like HD2 Acel and a killer controller that has 16
>mic pres and 8 x2 submixer, Talk back functions and full comaptibility with
>the Pro tools app. Nero zero latency...192 tracks @41/48k..96 tracks @96k..With
>full completemnt of plugins. This is not LE/M-powered..We're talking HD.
>Not that lame cripple ware. 18k from digi is looking really good.
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470708a8$1@linux...
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>>> I think around $6-7K. This where we thought Paris would be by now..Oh
>
>>> well.
>>>
>>> On their site, they state that for $18K for the C24 and HD2Acel,96 io,
>
>>> some
>>> plugins..Not bad for a full blow Pro Tools rig.
>>>
>>> Let's give Digi some credit for AT least trying to address the abandoned
>>> "Mid Market" segment.
>>>
>>> For those of you who not that familiar with PT HD. PT HD 2acel is a hell
>>> of a rig with alot of power. On a Nice MAc or PC (Multi-cores) you can
>run
>>> alot dsp and Rtas plugins along with 130 tracks.. Yes, I knwo we can
do
>
>>> that
>>> with our Native apps, but, it's nto as smooth, flexible(routing) as this
>>> solution. Especialy with this controller-C24.
>>>
>>> So, before you start the Digi bash, take real hard look at what's being
>
>>> offered.
>>> My thoughts these days is that the DAW audio companies (Hardware &
>>> Software)
>>> want to nickel and dime you all the way to the top $20kPlus, 8 channels
>at
>>> a time.
>>>
>>> As well as, Steingberg. They really need a unit like this for Cubase
and
>>> Nuendo.
>>>
>>
>>A similar controller for Nuendo costs over $20k.
>>http://www.arbiter.co.uk/wkaudio/index.htm
>>
>>I think Digidesign has actually put together something that is pretty
>>attractive here. I just wonder there the got'chas are. There are always
>
>>got'cha's somewhere with Digidesign..........always.some critical
>>functionality they leave out that costs big time if you need it.
>>
>>Wasn't it WC sync with the 001/ 002 and 003???....I can't remember.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91038 is a reply to message #91035] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 05:56 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705 Registered: January 2009
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I don't think so-
I think this bundle has LE and the PTHD version Lamont is referring to is
another config...
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>OK, so lemme get this straight - with this system, you buy/get a
>C24 AND a digi-003, and you get to run a full version of PTHD
>on it for about $12k (street) total?
>
>
>Neil
>
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yep .The 003 WC.Finicky.. But, HD..Smooth. I think Digi had to fight back
>>with:
>>
>>-8 core16 core personal computers
>>-Apple's Logic Studio
>>-Steingberg Nuendo on 8 core 16 core personal computers.
>>
>>I think they used their strenght with hardware to addred to Mid-Level pro
>>market with a Product like HD2 Acel and a killer controller that has 16
>>mic pres and 8 x2 submixer, Talk back functions and full comaptibility
with
>>the Pro tools app. Nero zero latency...192 tracks @41/48k..96 tracks @96k..With
>>full completemnt of plugins. This is not LE/M-powered..We're talking HD.
>>Not that lame cripple ware. 18k from digi is looking really good.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470708a8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I think around $6-7K. This where we thought Paris would be by now..Oh
>>
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> On their site, they state that for $18K for the C24 and HD2Acel,96 io,
>>
>>>> some
>>>> plugins..Not bad for a full blow Pro Tools rig.
>>>>
>>>> Let's give Digi some credit for AT least trying to address the abandoned
>>>> "Mid Market" segment.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who not that familiar with PT HD. PT HD 2acel is a
hell
>>>> of a rig with alot of power. On a Nice MAc or PC (Multi-cores) you can
>>run
>>>> alot dsp and Rtas plugins along with 130 tracks.. Yes, I knwo we can
>do
>>
>>>> that
>>>> with our Native apps, but, it's nto as smooth, flexible(routing) as
this
>>>> solution. Especialy with this controller-C24.
>>>>
>>>> So, before you start the Digi bash, take real hard look at what's being
>>
>>>> offered.
>>>> My thoughts these days is that the DAW audio companies (Hardware &
>>>> Software)
>>>> want to nickel and dime you all the way to the top $20kPlus, 8 channels
>>at
>>>> a time.
>>>>
>>>> As well as, Steingberg. They really need a unit like this for Cubase
>and
>>>> Nuendo.
>>>>
>>>
>>>A similar controller for Nuendo costs over $20k.
>>>http://www.arbiter.co.uk/wkaudio/index.htm
>>>
>>>I think Digidesign has actually put together something that is pretty
>>>attractive here. I just wonder there the got'chas are. There are always
>>
>>>got'cha's somewhere with Digidesign..........always.some critical
>>>functionality they leave out that costs big time if you need it.
>>>
>>>Wasn't it WC sync with the 001/ 002 and 003???....I can't remember.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91061 is a reply to message #91035] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 10:35 |
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Who's taking about LE 003?? I'm talking the other listed system C24 with HD2
Acel for 18k..
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>OK, so lemme get this straight - with this system, you buy/get a
>C24 AND a digi-003, and you get to run a full version of PTHD
>on it for about $12k (street) total?
>
>
>Neil
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yep .The 003 WC.Finicky.. But, HD..Smooth. I think Digi had to fight back
>>with:
>>
>>-8 core16 core personal computers
>>-Apple's Logic Studio
>>-Steingberg Nuendo on 8 core 16 core personal computers.
>>
>>I think they used their strenght with hardware to addred to Mid-Level pro
>>market with a Product like HD2 Acel and a killer controller that has 16
>>mic pres and 8 x2 submixer, Talk back functions and full comaptibility
with
>>the Pro tools app. Nero zero latency...192 tracks @41/48k..96 tracks @96k..With
>>full completemnt of plugins. This is not LE/M-powered..We're talking HD.
>>Not that lame cripple ware. 18k from digi is looking really good.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470708a8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I think around $6-7K. This where we thought Paris would be by now..Oh
>>
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> On their site, they state that for $18K for the C24 and HD2Acel,96 io,
>>
>>>> some
>>>> plugins..Not bad for a full blow Pro Tools rig.
>>>>
>>>> Let's give Digi some credit for AT least trying to address the abandoned
>>>> "Mid Market" segment.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who not that familiar with PT HD. PT HD 2acel is a
hell
>>>> of a rig with alot of power. On a Nice MAc or PC (Multi-cores) you can
>>run
>>>> alot dsp and Rtas plugins along with 130 tracks.. Yes, I knwo we can
>do
>>
>>>> that
>>>> with our Native apps, but, it's nto as smooth, flexible(routing) as
this
>>>> solution. Especialy with this controller-C24.
>>>>
>>>> So, before you start the Digi bash, take real hard look at what's being
>>
>>>> offered.
>>>> My thoughts these days is that the DAW audio companies (Hardware &
>>>> Software)
>>>> want to nickel and dime you all the way to the top $20kPlus, 8 channels
>>at
>>>> a time.
>>>>
>>>> As well as, Steingberg. They really need a unit like this for Cubase
>and
>>>> Nuendo.
>>>>
>>>
>>>A similar controller for Nuendo costs over $20k.
>>>http://www.arbiter.co.uk/wkaudio/index.htm
>>>
>>>I think Digidesign has actually put together something that is pretty
>>>attractive here. I just wonder there the got'chas are. There are always
>>
>>>got'cha's somewhere with Digidesign..........always.some critical
>>>functionality they leave out that costs big time if you need it.
>>>
>>>Wasn't it WC sync with the 001/ 002 and 003???....I can't remember.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: C24 new DAW Controller..Wow Weee [message #91077 is a reply to message #91069] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 13:34 |
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Well, if you consider the difference btw an entry level HD1 vs HD2 Acel, thats
pretty competitive. The HD2 acel is becoming the PT system of choice for
a lot project pro studios. Bypasing the 96 io unit for a Apogee ADx16 or
even Lynx 16, you had a really nice rig with that C24 controller.
I miss not having a dedicated controller. I guse Paris spoiled me. I can
work wih a mouse very well,but as look back, I used the C16 alot..
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Who's taking about LE 003?? I'm talking the other listed system C24 with
>HD2
>>Acel for 18k..
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>I didn't know exactly what you wre talking about - that's why I
>asked.
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>$18k - i dunno, that's still a pretty huge investment. Still
>doesn't really change the entry-level price point for HD by
>very much, just gives you more bang for your buck.
>
>Neil
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