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| Re: I don't know if this is true, but!!! [message #81179 is a reply to message #81174] |
Mon, 05 March 2007 14:35   |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Hmmm..............is this sorta like Steve Jobs letting Power Computing
>blaze the trails for higher bandwidth/bus speeds and overall hardware
>performance gains before yanking their OS licensing once their superior
>machines started kicking Apples ass in the marketplace?
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>Just curious
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DeeJ,
First these are two completely different issues. The Mac cloning was a bad
idea for Apple at the time. The market for Macs was not growing as was expected.
The cloning was cannibalizing Apple sales and Apple was losing a lot of
money on the deal. So much so that apple looked like it could go out of
business if it continued the cloning deal. The cloners were in effect, being
subsidized by Apple, at Apple's expense. Apple tried to raise licensing
fees but that didn't work, the cloners protested it.
The hardware manufactures could have continued to build and sell the hardware
and shipped the machines with Mac OS 7.6. The customer would have had to
purchase Mac OS 8.x from Apple. The cloners chose not to continue, because
the OS was were all the profit was. The cloners were getting Mac OS for
next to nothing, and the OS was costing Apple all the money to develop. The
cloners had screwed them self's because they had been dumping the prices
in the dirt for three years. They would have had to raise prices and ship
a machine with an old OS. Power Computing Chose to switch to selling Win-Tel
machines but failed.
I was an authorized dealer for all of the Mac clone manufactures, including
Power Computing. I was there, I even signed the Power Computing petition
for Apple to continue the cloning. I certainly wanted the cloning to continue,
however, ending the cloning was the best thing for Apple and all Mac users
in the end.
Apple didn't stop the cloning because Power Computing had a higher performing
machine. The DayStar Genesis quad processor kicked the ass of any thing
Power Computing ever had to offer. At the time I signed a deal to become
a Tatung Mac Clone dealer. The Tatung Mac clone would have eaten anything
the Power Computing machines had at the time. I can't remember the name
of the company, but I was a dealer for a company that had a rack mount Mac
that you could order it with 8 or 16 processors. This box could be used
as a processing farm for your desk top Mac. The main application was scientific
or to be used as a rendering farm.
Power Computing machines were good, but they had their share of problems.
Other manufactures were coming out with features that Power Computing didn't
have. The Motorola StarMax machines were the first to have PS2 ports and
ATA drives.
Apple didn't steal there designs either. Apple supplied the cloners with
there designs and the cloners modified the Apple designs. The cloners also
co-designed products with Apple. So Apple didn't rip the cloners off. Of
course the cloners were not happy when it ended, but it was just business,
and they could have continued to build machines. They could have tried to
renegotiate licensing in a year, but they all chose to get out of the business
all together. I don't think Apple screwed Power Computing. If you know
the real history, Apple payed Power Computing 100 million in Apple stock
to buy back the cloning license. I wouldn't call that a rip off. Go look
it up!
James
P.S. It still no excuse for MS's unscrupulous business practices.
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45ec665f$1@linux...
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>> I don't know if this is true, but it's funny if it is! Also it's funny
>> how
>> Apple is blamed and MS corporate espionage is ignored.
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>> http://clintonforbes.blogspot.com/search/label/INTERCAL
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>> He is such a class act! Here is the other one to read:
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>> Bill Gates Confidential E-Mail: Mac Users as Guinea Pigs
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>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&newsID=1739 4
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>> http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX 0_6060.pdf
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