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PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108929] Sat, 03 October 2015 14:36 Go to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Everyone,

***update: I just got word that someone at ID is denying that ID gave permission for a PACE free PARIS 3.0 to be released. I'm certain that Edmund gave Brian permission, but I don't have anything in writing from Edmund, so I'm taking down the file as a precaution until we can get a definitive statement from ID.***

I just got word from Brian Tankersly that Edmund Pirali has approved the release of a pace free PARIS 3.01.

I've attached it to this post.

PARIS 3.01 was a bug fix build. I'm not sure what is fixed, but it's newer than 3.0, which is pretty amazing!

I'd like to thank Edmund for allowing this. It's going to make a big difference to a lot of people, including me. This really is quite a gift!

I'd also like the thank Brian T for reaching out to Edmund. We have always been lucky to have Brian in our community. From his help promoting PARIS, to the DVD, to his help in making the first XP driver possible, to helping me just make the PSCL better, and so much more - we're very lucky. Thank you, Brian!

I hope this helps every PARIS user out there. I may just have to re-write the VST effects subsystem now...

All the best!

Mike

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Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108931 is a reply to message #108929] Sat, 03 October 2015 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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Any instruction or do we load it into the system as is?
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108932 is a reply to message #108931] Sat, 03 October 2015 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ronj_91602 wrote on Sat, 03 October 2015 17:08
Any instruction or do we load it into the system as is?




Just locate your current Paris.EXE, make a safety copy of it and then replace that file with the new Paris.EXE. Where that file is located depends on which Installer you used. On my machine with Mike's newest drivers, it is:

C:\ > Program Files (x86) > E-Mu > Paris Pro > Paris.EXE

If you are on a 32 bit system, it will be in Program Files without the (X86).

Enjoy, and thanks again, Edmund!


Regards,
Brian T
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108933 is a reply to message #108932] Sat, 03 October 2015 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yanoska is currently offline  Yanoska   UNITED STATES
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Don't know if anyone else has encountered this problem but when I tried to initiate the new executable file I received the error message attached.index.php?t=getfile&id=1027&private=0
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108934 is a reply to message #108933] Sat, 03 October 2015 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W. is currently offline  Kim W.   AUSTRALIA
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That's just too cool!
Can't wait to try it.
Cheers, and thanks!
Kim
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108935 is a reply to message #108929] Sun, 04 October 2015 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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Cool Ok it is 2:45 a.m. and I said I would wait till tomorrow. Yea right !, sooooooooooooooooo I downloaded the file, deleted my exe. file, which I have backed up many times. Put in the NEW Edmund file, which by the way if you remember I actually talked to him and found out when they were dumping us. Anyhow......first I had to tell windows to shut up and run or install the program. Boooooooooooom Paris 3.1 on Windows 8.1 So I loaded a song and it played back fine ! I then quit Paris no problem, shut down computer, started computer zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz excuse me, made a shortcut to the new exe. on the desktop, clicked the shortcut, Booooooom Paris 3,01 on windows 8.1 Paris started right up with no B.S. played a tune worked FINE!!! Wow what the hell year was this craziness all started and we are still digging this program, and now 64 bit windows 8.1 Paris 3.01 in 2015 !NO PACE !!!!! Freedom Yee-Haw !But thanks Edmund anyhow, and Brian and all computer Very Happy Gurus, ahh there I thought of a better term, for keeping this going. Last thing, if you got Paris to play nicely with my waves vst toys, wow tape plugins on vocals and acoustic guitars etc. MAMA Mia ! that would be some spicy meatball ! Time to konk out I have to play later today and Monday so I will try recording Tuesday and let you know how it goes. Thanks to all! Laughing
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108936 is a reply to message #108935] Sun, 04 October 2015 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yanoska is currently offline  Yanoska   UNITED STATES
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To all: This is what happened with my initial installation of the new 3.01 exe file resulting in the error message I posted earlier.

I had to create a new empty VST folder and direct PARIS to that (using my old exe file) before installing the new exe file.

It worked, but I don't know which VST plugin in the old folder was causing PARIS to hang up. It is working now.

Hard to believe this was created in 2001!

Thanks to Brian T and Mike Audet for their perseverance!

Take care, Mike.
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108937 is a reply to message #108936] Sun, 04 October 2015 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W. is currently offline  Kim W.   AUSTRALIA
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Hi All.

FWIW, I ventured out to the "dungeon" tonight, to do some rough mixes of an album I'm currently recording for a client. (A continuous timeline with some 25 songs, spanning 32+ tracks, and over a thousand files in the audio bin...).
I decided to replace the pace-free V3.0 that I've been using for years, with this version 3.01.

I'm happy to report that all went well. No sign of trouble at all, on Win7 64 bit. (Four EDS's, two MECs.)

Loaded up a couple of other projects with heavier plugin use, and so far, No problems!
I went straight for the old well known bug in 3.0, whereby the now line would stop moving in the editor window, when an area below track 18 was clicked on, and sure enough, that bug has been fixed.

Time will tell if other, random gremlins have been rectified.
But from my end, in any case, so far so good!

A big thanks to Edmund for finally releasing this version.
I know how pear shaped things had gotten all those years ago, with the takeover by Creative, and the death of SSC, but it is indeed a glorious thing, that this wonderful beast has somehow survived all these years, through thick and thin, due to the efforts of the likes of Chuck, Mike, Kerry, Brian, Aaron, Derek, etc etc....

Anyway, all I can say is, jump in. The weather is fine.
But for now, don't forget to back up your old exe, just in case....

The question has to be asked, however. What treats awaited us with the yet uncompiled version 3.02 that Kerry and Mike have beenworking on???

Cheers,

Kim

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Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108938 is a reply to message #108929] Sun, 04 October 2015 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yesssss. It keeps getting better? Thanks all who made this possible!!!
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108940 is a reply to message #108937] Sun, 04 October 2015 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kim W. wrote on Sun, 04 October 2015 09:58
Hi All.
The question has to be asked, however. What treats awaited us with the yet uncompiled version 3.02 that Kerry and Mike have beenworking on???



Mike could answer the 3.02 question better than I, but I had to jump in and say that all I did was shake the tree to find versions of CodeWarrior for experimentation - the work on 3.02 is 100% Mike. I wouldn't even know who to ask where to start beginning.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108941 is a reply to message #108940] Sun, 04 October 2015 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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The version I've been working on is 3.2. I managed to get it as far as just before the main windows opened, and then it crashes. I'm not sure if Code Warrior 6 would make a difference or not. The functions I added work fine, which makes me think that an existing function was changed in addition to new function having been added to the version AbLibWin.dll that it requires.

I have to take some more time with it. It's not as critical now that we have 3.01 PACE free. I'd like to get the GUI finished for the ASIO driver, and then tackle the VST subsystem. I've been improving the core of the ASIO driver - I just fixed some bugs that I've been chasing for the past year. I've also just started looking into modifying the microcode in the EDS cards to allow interrupts at 64 sample intervals to improve CPU utilization. It's all very cool! Bill Mauchly has been a huge help.

I'm going to which to QT for the GUI because I'm thinking of doing a Linux driver at some point. I just finished reading a 400 page book on how to do it, and I've got the basic design roughed out to support just the PARIS app. I'm not too keen on how Windows 10 handles privacy. I think we could probably run PARIS 3.01 under Wine with the right modifications to the PSCL.

I'm so excited that we've gotten free of PACE. This is wonderful!!

Mike
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108943 is a reply to message #108941] Tue, 06 October 2015 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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Rolling Eyes Hmmmm well did some recording tonight on 3.1 Well it plays back very solid, records very solid, it won't let you do gain changes or super normalization stuff, it will do the bottom stuff on that pull down. In Crying or Very Sad automation edit window it will not allow you to use the eraser or the pencil functions so you cannot say erase mutes on the automated window. Those functions are greyed out in the window. I went to 3.0 and everything was ROCK !! Bummer but I hope this helps. Cool
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108944 is a reply to message #108943] Tue, 06 October 2015 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Richard,

I just checked, and you're right: the normalize and super normalize no longer work from the menu in the editor. But, you can still do them in the window that opens up if you double click on a file.

The automation editor window did work for me. Do you mind sending me your session?

All the best!

Mike
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108945 is a reply to message #108944] Tue, 06 October 2015 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Kelley is currently offline  Richard Kelley   UNITED STATES
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I can stick the file on a cd and mail it to you. I would also like to send you a copy of a self project it has taken me a year to do. I would be honored if you could check it out in I know, maybe some time you might have driving and taking your kids to the gym or are they still too young ? Ha Ha ! Let me know, anything to help the community. Paris Rocks ! Cool
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108946 is a reply to message #108929] Tue, 06 October 2015 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Brian T., Edmund P., and Mike Audit!

James
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108947 is a reply to message #108946] Tue, 06 October 2015 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Edmund, I hope you read this and reconsider releasing the PARIS code and any notes to Mike Audit for use by the PARIS community. That would be huge! When you created PARIS, you knocked it out of the park! We'd like a chance to further improve on what you started. We only want the code to improve our PARIS systems that we love. The Paris users would greatly appreciate it, and Mike Audit would be a good steward of the PARIS code.

Thanks Again!
James
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108975 is a reply to message #108929] Mon, 19 October 2015 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thesandbox1 is currently offline  thesandbox1   UNITED STATES
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wow...haven't logged in a few months and I now see this!
Many thanks to Edmund, BT, Mike and Kerry for your years of work creating, paving the way, fighting the good fight, and continuing to make this platform viable in today's audio world.
Cheers to all!!!


Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108978 is a reply to message #108929] Mon, 19 October 2015 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W. is currently offline  Kim W.   AUSTRALIA
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Hi all.
Well, after a mixing session last night, unfortunately I have gone back to v3.0. One dsp function I still use in Paris is the pitch shift. Yeah, I know it sounds a bit funky, but I only use it for "spot" correction on particularly badly pitched vocals, where some syllables are too far out for Autotune to handle. This function just doesn't work in 3.01.
So far this is the only negative I've come across with the newer build. Probably no biggie for most of you.
Cheers,
Kim
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108981 is a reply to message #108978] Wed, 21 October 2015 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It looks like the whole destructive DSP part of the menu is broken, and only part of it was moved into the destructive edit window.

At least it's pace free and addresses some other bugs.

All the best,

Mike

Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108988 is a reply to message #108929] Tue, 03 November 2015 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is great news....! Kudos to Mike, Brian and Edmund. I have since switched to a PT rig but I still have my beloved Paris 4 card beast.
Cheers
Rob
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #108992 is a reply to message #108988] Sun, 08 November 2015 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Rob -

I've always been a fan of the work you do out there in New Brunswick.
Very natural and full of vibe!

Hope you're well and busy : )

I run mainly Harrison Mixbus through a Metric Halo ULN-8 to some outboard, but Paris by itself is still an amazing system. (I'm a part timer...)

Ted
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109012 is a reply to message #108929] Sat, 05 December 2015 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Obviously, have not logged in here a long time; this is great news, thank you!!!
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109201 is a reply to message #108929] Sat, 18 June 2016 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does anyone know if a Mac version of this is available at all? Should I (humbly) ping ID - or does someone here have an established line of communication and could ask on my behalf?

I'm trying to build a backup PARIS machine - I have so much stuff in PARIS and if I lost my main rig, I'd be in deep trouble (not to mention devastated). Second worst case if no PACE free Mac version is available would be to see if they are still auth'ing the PACE version (I own two copies of the software; only ever registered one)

Absolute worst case is I have to rebuild from scratch each time the 7 day trial period expires Sad (if disaster struck I could probably live with that)

Regards, Nic.
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109203 is a reply to message #109201] Sat, 18 June 2016 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Nic,

Feel free to contact ID about a pace free Mac version, but I don't think it's going get results.

From what I gather, the PARIS application continued to be developed into a new product, probably a law enforcement product, after Emu discontinued the hardware. I'm not sure if ID even has the code as it was at the time of 3.0's release to produce a PACE free version.

To my knowledge, the PACE removal utility was never released for the MAC, so there is no way to remove the PACE code from the existing MAC version, even it if is legal in your jurisdiction.

ID has publicly stated that they will no longer provide response codes for PARIS 3.0.

My advice is to get a PC. PARIS 3.0 runs great, and PCs are relatively cheap. You'll be able to port all your session files, though native plugins may not be retained.

I wish I could help you with a Mac version, and I wish you the best of luck if you decide to contact ID. Please let us know how it goes.

I hope this helps.

Mike
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109204 is a reply to message #108929] Sat, 18 June 2016 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Mike,

Appreciate the reply. I'll try ID although first I need an EDS card (not touching my working system) as the spare (unused) one I have seems to be cactus. I will pass on any information I get from ID if I get to that stage.

Your advice re. running on PC is definitely an option, although I would prefer to have a backup system as close to my working rig as possible.

Regards, Nic.
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109289 is a reply to message #109204] Thu, 05 January 2017 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey guys!

I don't see any attachment on the first post of this thread...can someone please post the 3.01 PACE free file?

Thanks!
Sig
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109463 is a reply to message #108929] Sat, 03 February 2018 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If someone could please PM me as well

Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109466 is a reply to message #109463] Sat, 03 February 2018 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks guys!

Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109481 is a reply to message #108929] Mon, 26 February 2018 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can I get the link as well, please?
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109483 is a reply to message #108929] Tue, 06 March 2018 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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+1 here for a link to the PACE free .exe
I need to clean the dust of Paris and fool around again.
-Phil
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109485 is a reply to message #108929] Fri, 09 March 2018 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could I get a link also
Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109486 is a reply to message #108929] Fri, 09 March 2018 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry folks, we can't link that here.

While the status of PACE-free Paris is still in dispute, we don't want to run the (even extremely minimal) risk of posting or linking it, either publicly or privately. It would be damaging to the community to risk having this forum taken offline. Even if IMHO the legal grounds for taking it down were extremely shaky and could be easily gutted like a flounder in court, we could still be down for a while.

You'll just have to talk amongst yourselves privately about those sort of things while the status clarifies.


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Re: PACE Free PARIS 3.01 [message #109487 is a reply to message #108929] Fri, 09 March 2018 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am surprised that ID took down the PACE-free version of PARIS from the forums. A couple of weeks ago I spoke on the phone with their CEO Tim Areson who told me that they can no longer provide me with the PACE key as they no longer had support for it themselves. He suggested that I might need look "elsewhere on the internet" for a solution of my problem
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Hi everyone, I'm a new member of the forum trying to resurrect my Paris system. I have a working system used for mixing on an aging Mac G4 machine and I want to get a Paris system working on Windows 10 64 bit. I installed Mike's drivers and have Paris 2 running and Reaper sort of running, a bit confusing coming from Logic Pro in OS X but will figure it out.

I'm here to request guidance in getting Paris 3.01 working on the system. I have a PACE code for the Mac OS 9 version but apparently this does me no good in the current environment. Any help is appreciated. Feel free to PM

Thanks, Dan
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