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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70580 is a reply to message #70558] |
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Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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The info on the user's forum looks pretty grim, but user's forums are
sometimes more about troubles than success stories. After reading a bit
more, I determined that setting the KORE driver latency
(yikes........another ****'in driver to configure) to a minimum and
inserting the KORE as a VST plugin in the first insert or send slot in a
Cubase SX 3x project seems to be working for some folks. There's a whole
'nuther can of worms involved with this critter as far as producing clicks
and pops too and I just spent 6 months sussing this issue with 4 x UAD-1's
and 3 x RME cards by resorting to using 2 x Magma chassis' in one DAW. If
this thing starts overloading my PCI bus, it's gonna get shitcanned PDQ and
I will once again be reduced to mousing
;o)
"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:44c7ba57$1@linux...
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> The two people I know who have bought it have sent them back, complete
POS.
>
> It's also a big dongle, so that may or may not be an issue in your case.
For people with laptops it's sure a deal breaker.
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> Cheers,
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> TC
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> DJ wrote:
> > NI KORE
> > http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
> >
> > I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
> >
> > Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it
should
> > have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to try
> > it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here. Everything
is
> > working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat
though
> > and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I can
> > punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
> >
> > It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use it
as a
> > plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with
UAD-1
> > plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
> > literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
> > parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I* want
it to
> > because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP
based
> > plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to
implement it
> > as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile long
> > shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is
saying
> > that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
> >
> > Mr. Optimistic
> >
> >
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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70595 is a reply to message #70551] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 06:11 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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NI, unfortunately, has a tendency to release really buggy first versions of
things. I remember the first Spektral Delay, which turned a 'run a nuclear
power plant' audio box into a completely unusable crash monkey. However,
they usually do get things together later on, so keep an eye on it and you
might have a winner in the future.
TCB
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>NI KORE
>http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
>
>I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
>
>Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it should
>have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to try
>it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here. Everything is
>working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat though
>and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I can
>punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
>
>It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use it
as a
>plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with UAD-1
>plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
>literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
>parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I* want it
to
>because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP based
>plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to implement
it
>as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile long
>shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is saying
>that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
>
>Mr. Optimistic
>
>
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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70629 is a reply to message #70595] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 06:10 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Well heck, Thad......there's a great review of it in Future Music this
month, so everything must work perfectly on every imaginable
platform.......right?
;oP
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:44c8bb98$1@linux...
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> NI, unfortunately, has a tendency to release really buggy first versions
of
> things. I remember the first Spektral Delay, which turned a 'run a nuclear
> power plant' audio box into a completely unusable crash monkey. However,
> they usually do get things together later on, so keep an eye on it and you
> might have a winner in the future.
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >NI KORE
> >http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
> >
> >I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
> >
> >Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it
should
> >have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to try
> >it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here. Everything is
> >working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat
though
> >and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I can
> >punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
> >
> >It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use it
> as a
> >plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with
UAD-1
> >plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
> >literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
> >parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I* want it
> to
> >because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP
based
> >plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to implement
> it
> >as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile long
> >shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is saying
> >that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
> >
> >Mr. Optimistic
> >
> >
>
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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70674 is a reply to message #70551] |
Sat, 29 July 2006 15:32 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Well, it came yesterday. I opened it up and there is an eitire minimanual
fust for the installation. It doesn't really look that hard to do but, after
reading the manual and determining that, for my needs, it's parttly overkill
and partly not ready for prime time, I decided to try reloading the driver
for my Houston controller to see if I could get it's functionality up to
speed for controlling VST plugins and now it seems to be doing as it should
so I'm really contemplating whether or not to even screw around with this
thing and all of the hoops Native Instruments requires the user to jump
through just to register it so that it can function. Basically, for my
purposes, it's just a VST plugin wrapper that would allow control of plugin
parameters once those parameters are mapped to the controller. Since my
Houston controller is working properly now, I'm thinking "what's the point?"
I'm really too busy to jack around with this kind of unnecessary redundancy.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44c794f0@linux...
> NI KORE
> http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
>
> I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
>
> Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it
should
> have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to try
> it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here. Everything is
> working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat though
> and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I can
> punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
>
> It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use it as
a
> plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with
UAD-1
> plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
> literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
> parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I* want it
to
> because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP based
> plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to implement
it
> as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile long
> shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is saying
> that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
>
> Mr. Optimistic
>
>
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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70675 is a reply to message #70674] |
Sat, 29 July 2006 15:59 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44cbe242$1@linux...
> Well, it came yesterday. I opened it up and there is an eitire minimanual
> fust for the installation. It doesn't really look that hard to do but,
after
> reading the manual and determining that, for my needs, it's parttly
overkill
> and partly not ready for prime time, I decided to try reloading the driver
> for my Houston controller to see if I could get it's functionality up to
> speed for controlling VST plugins and now it seems to be doing as it
should
> so I'm really contemplating whether or not to even screw around with this
> thing and all of the hoops Native Instruments requires the user to jump
> through just to register it so that it can function. Basically, for my
> purposes, it's just a VST plugin wrapper that would allow control of
plugin
> parameters once those parameters are mapped to the controller. Since my
> Houston controller is working properly now, I'm thinking "what's the
point?"
> I'm really too busy to jack around with this kind of unnecessary
redundancy.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44c794f0@linux...
> > NI KORE
> > http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
> >
> > I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
> >
> > Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it
> should
> > have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to try
> > it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here. Everything
is
> > working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat
though
> > and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I can
> > punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
> >
> > It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use it
as
> a
> > plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with
> UAD-1
> > plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
> > literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
> > parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I* want
it
> to
> > because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP
based
> > plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to
implement
> it
> > as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile long
> > shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is
saying
> > that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
> >
> > Mr. Optimistic>
...........and now I'm sorta' glad I didn't instazll the software:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t= 37870
This may be just an overblown paranoia on the part of the poster, but
another part of my little pea brain is thinking that a trojan is a trojan is
a trojan......
Sorry guys. I'm gonna likely renig on being a betapig for this thing. It's
already back in the box and ready for the RMA#.
Deej
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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70681 is a reply to message #70675] |
Sat, 29 July 2006 21:23 |
Mike Claytor
Messages: 32
Registered: October 2006
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You weenie! Where's your sense of adventure!
......and I still wanna know if the right turn signal mod is cool or no!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:44cbe242$1@linux...
>> Well, it came yesterday. I opened it up and there is an eitire minimanual
>> fust for the installation. It doesn't really look that hard to do but,
>after
>> reading the manual and determining that, for my needs, it's parttly
>overkill
>> and partly not ready for prime time, I decided to try reloading the driver
>> for my Houston controller to see if I could get it's functionality up
to
>> speed for controlling VST plugins and now it seems to be doing as it
>should
>> so I'm really contemplating whether or not to even screw around with this
>> thing and all of the hoops Native Instruments requires the user to jump
>> through just to register it so that it can function. Basically, for my
>> purposes, it's just a VST plugin wrapper that would allow control of
>plugin
>> parameters once those parameters are mapped to the controller. Since my
>> Houston controller is working properly now, I'm thinking "what's the
>point?"
>> I'm really too busy to jack around with this kind of unnecessary
>redundancy.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44c794f0@linux...
>> > NI KORE
>> > http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
>> >
>> > I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
>> >
>> > Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it
>> should
>> > have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to
try
>> > it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here. Everything
>is
>> > working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat
>though
>> > and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I
can
>> > punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
>> >
>> > It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use
it
>as
>> a
>> > plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with
>> UAD-1
>> > plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
>> > literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
>> > parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I* want
>it
>> to
>> > because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP
>based
>> > plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to
>implement
>> it
>> > as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile
long
>> > shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is
>saying
>> > that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
>> >
>> > Mr. Optimistic>
>
>..........and now I'm sorta' glad I didn't instazll the software:
>
> http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t= 37870
>
>This may be just an overblown paranoia on the part of the poster, but
>another part of my little pea brain is thinking that a trojan is a trojan
is
>a trojan......
>
>Sorry guys. I'm gonna likely renig on being a betapig for this thing. It's
>already back in the box and ready for the RMA#.
>
>Deej
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| Re: I'm gonna try this and let you guys know if it's worth a **** [message #70689 is a reply to message #70681] |
Sun, 30 July 2006 10:54 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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I'm sorta' at the point right now with my native DAW that I reached with my
Paris DAW a couple of years ago.........finding the sweet spot so that it
does everything I need, at least withiun the contest of using Paris for
tracking and both DAWs for mixing. The logical next step will be a move to
64 bit and all that goes with it. At this point I may start looking at the
monster Intel Macs or quad socket dual core AMD machines. I just have this
feeling tat when 64 bit comes along, these mosterr boxes are going to be
able to compete with Paris as far as "near zero" latency goes and that 64
bit will enable developers to come up with more realistic sounding mix bus
coding, sort of like the 56 point Paris mix bus. It looks like WWIII is
about to begin so I'm not goping to speculate too much on what's going to
happen in the next 12 months, but if the world is still somewhat
recognizable, "possibly" systems like this may be justifiable/affordable.
The Apogee interfaces for the Mac look like a very nice situation for a
powerful turnkey DAW.
Cheers,
DJ
"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nopsy.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:44cc3453$1@linux...
>
>
> You weenie! Where's your sense of adventure!
>
> .....and I still wanna know if the right turn signal mod is cool or no!
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >news:44cbe242$1@linux...
> >> Well, it came yesterday. I opened it up and there is an eitire
minimanual
> >> fust for the installation. It doesn't really look that hard to do but,
> >after
> >> reading the manual and determining that, for my needs, it's parttly
> >overkill
> >> and partly not ready for prime time, I decided to try reloading the
driver
> >> for my Houston controller to see if I could get it's functionality up
> to
> >> speed for controlling VST plugins and now it seems to be doing as it
> >should
> >> so I'm really contemplating whether or not to even screw around with
this
> >> thing and all of the hoops Native Instruments requires the user to jump
> >> through just to register it so that it can function. Basically, for my
> >> purposes, it's just a VST plugin wrapper that would allow control of
> >plugin
> >> parameters once those parameters are mapped to the controller. Since my
> >> Houston controller is working properly now, I'm thinking "what's the
> >point?"
> >> I'm really too busy to jack around with this kind of unnecessary
> >redundancy.
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44c794f0@linux...
> >> > NI KORE
> >> > http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us
> >> >
> >> > I've got a line on a system that is returnable, no questions asked.
> >> >
> >> > Forum reports lots of bugs.........as in this thing is such a POS it
> >> should
> >> > have never have even been released. This is precisely why I want to
> try
> >> > it.......Things are going wayyyyy to smopothly around here.
Everything
> >is
> >> > working and I am bored/ feel the need for pain . I'm going to cheat
> >though
> >> > and Ghost my system before I install it so if it hoses everything, I
> can
> >> > punt it and go back to my mundane life as it once was.
> >> >
> >> > It appears to be primarily a controller for VSTi's but I want to use
> it
> >as
> >> a
> >> > plugin controller as my outdated Steiny Houston is buggy as hell with
> >> UAD-1
> >> > plugs and often crashes the system so I am reduced to mousing. The
> >> > literature on this KORE thingy indicates that it can be used to tweak
> >> > parameters on VST plugins but I doubt if it will work the way *I*
want
> >it
> >> to
> >> > because forum members are reporting that it doesn't have PDC for DSP
> >based
> >> > plugins like UAD-/POCO. However, methinks they may be trying to
> >implement
> >> it
> >> > as an audio interface as well so this may (possibly-as in 1000 mile
> long
> >> > shot) be part of the problem though I doubt it.........plus, NI is
> >saying
> >> > that they are trying to correct this PDC oversight so we'll see.
> >> >
> >> > Mr. Optimistic>
> >
> >..........and now I'm sorta' glad I didn't instazll the software:
> >
> > http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t= 37870
> >
> >This may be just an overblown paranoia on the part of the poster, but
> >another part of my little pea brain is thinking that a trojan is a trojan
> is
> >a trojan......
> >
> >Sorry guys. I'm gonna likely renig on being a betapig for this thing.
It's
> >already back in the box and ready for the RMA#.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
>
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