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| OT: Soft Samplers [message #67420] |
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jef knight[1]
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Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
I've gotta get a soft sampler.
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
cheers
jef
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67426 is a reply to message #67420] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 11:39  |
Tom Bruhl
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Jef,
I am in the same boat as you. After looking them all over
Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best aside from Giga. I'm not
convinced it's not a buggy piece though. I'd like to hear
from someone here who has experience with it.
Tom
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:44523838$1@linux...
Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra=20
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,=20
I've gotta get a soft sampler.
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk=20
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as =
some=20
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg=20
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working =
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I=20
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be=20
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I=20
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take =
on=20
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n =
con's.
cheers
jef
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jef,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am in the same boat as you. =
After looking=20
them all over</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best =
aside from=20
Giga. I'm not</FONT></DIV>
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though. I'd=20
like to hear</FONT></DIV>
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with=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Dudes and=20
Dudettes...<BR><BR>I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily =
include=20
orchestra <BR>and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do =
convincingly.=20
So, <BR>I've gotta get a soft sampler.<BR>Having looked at a few of =
the sample=20
libraries like vienna and kirk <BR>hunter, it seems to me that NI =
Kontakt 2 is=20
the way to go. Now, as some <BR>of you may have guessed, I a big =
steinberg=20
<BR>fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd =
an..ahem..."working=20
<BR>demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it =
as I=20
<BR>thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to =
be=20
<BR>pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the =
studio, I=20
<BR>don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive =
too....lol<BR><BR>Before I=20
shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on <BR>the =
whole=20
thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n=20
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67452 is a reply to message #67426] |
Sun, 30 April 2006 10:09 |
jef knight[1]
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ya, me too. Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that it
take soooo much horsepower to run it that it requires it's own comp.
jef
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Jef,
> I am in the same boat as you. After looking them all over
> Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best aside from Giga. I'm not
> convinced it's not a buggy piece though. I'd like to hear
> from someone here who has experience with it.
> Tom
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>
>
> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
> news:44523838$1@linux...
> Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
>
> I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
> and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
> I've gotta get a soft sampler.
> Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
> hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as
> some
> of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
> fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd
> an..ahem..."working
> demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
> thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
> pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
> don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
>
> Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you
> take on
> the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n
> con's.
>
> cheers
>
> jef
>
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ya, me too. Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that it
take soooo much horsepower to run it that it requires it's own comp.<br>
jef<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jef,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I am in the same boat as you. After
looking them all over</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best
aside from Giga. I'm not</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">convinced it's not a buggy piece
though. I'd like to hear</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">from someone here who has experience
with it.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Tom</font></div>
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<div>"jef knight" <<a href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>>
wrote in message <a href="news:44523838$1@linux">news:44523838$1@linux</a>...</div>
Hey Dudes and Dudettes...<br>
<br>
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra <br>
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So, <br>
I've gotta get a soft sampler.<br>
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk <br>
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
<br>
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg <br>
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working <br>
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I <br>
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be <br>
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I <br>
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol<br>
<br>
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
<br>
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
<br>
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| Re: OT: Soft Samplers [message #67453 is a reply to message #67420] |
Sun, 30 April 2006 12:16 |
TCB
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I think Kontakt is great software, lots of options for making your own sounds
or importing other libraries. Lots of 'experimental' sounding filters and
f/x as well and good external f/x integration. Also, very good sounds ship
with it. I'm not sure if it's public knowledge but the sample library is
mostly done by some crazy Germans whose company name rhymes with Bellow Fools.
I have HALion as well and don't use it much.
Two other options to consider. First, VSampler from MAZ sound
http://www.maz-sound.com/index.php?show=product&id=2
Is a _great_ soft sampler. For under $200 it will do 99% of what most samplists
need and it has _super_ VST effect integration. So if you don't like the
delay in the sampler, stuck your favorite VST delay on it. And how about
a UAD stereo Fairchild where higher velocity lowers the threshold of the
compressor? Squeezes a little more on the loud sections and lets the softer
stuff chime through. Very nice.
Also, for string sounds, while I'm not a huge fan of HALion the HALion strings
module is pretty good and dead easy to program.
TCB
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
>
>I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
>and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
>I've gotta get a soft sampler.
>Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
>hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
>of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
>fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
>demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
>thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
>pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
>don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
>
>Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
>the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
>
>cheers
>
>jef
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67454 is a reply to message #67452] |
Sun, 30 April 2006 17:12 |
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Yeah Jeff and Tom, you definitely need a separate, dedicated computer to =
run Giga properly in my experience.
Rich
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:4454ee9a$1@linux...
ya, me too. Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that it =
take soooo much horsepower to run it that it requires it's own comp.
jef
Tom Bruhl wrote:=20
Jef,
I am in the same boat as you. After looking them all over
Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best aside from Giga. I'm not
convinced it's not a buggy piece though. I'd like to hear
from someone here who has experience with it.
Tom
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:44523838$1@linux...
Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include =
orchestra=20
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. =
So,=20
I've gotta get a soft sampler.
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and =
kirk=20
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as =
some=20
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg=20
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd =
an..ahem..."working=20
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it =
as I=20
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to =
be=20
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the =
studio, I=20
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you =
take on=20
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n =
con's.
cheers
jef
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looking them all over</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the =
best aside from=20
Giga. I'm not</FONT></DIV>
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though. =20
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wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:44523838$1@linux">news:44523838$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hey =
Dudes=20
and Dudettes...<BR><BR>I've got a project coming up that will =
neccessarily=20
include orchestra <BR>and some other fiddly-bits that my synths =
won't do=20
convincingly. So, <BR>I've gotta get a soft sampler.<BR>Having =
looked at a=20
few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk <BR>hunter, it =
seems to=20
me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some <BR>of you may =
have=20
guessed, I a big steinberg <BR>fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. =
but=20
having dld'd an..ahem..."working <BR>demo"....cough, cough.. of =
Halion, I=20
wasn't as impressed with it as I <BR>thought I'd be. Wasn't happy =
with the=20
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already=20
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dough=20
for this cookie, what's you take on <BR>the whole thing and, more=20
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67470 is a reply to message #67420] |
Sun, 30 April 2006 21:02 |
Deej [1]
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I've got the Garritan Personal Orchestra here. It uses the NI Kompact
interface. It's easy to use and can be pretty convincing if someone other
than me is using it.
;o)
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
news:44523838$1@linux...
> Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
>
> I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
> and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
> I've gotta get a soft sampler.
> Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
> hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
> of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
> fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
> demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
> thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
> pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
> don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
>
> Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
> the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
>
> cheers
>
> jef
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67480 is a reply to message #67454] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 08:21 |
jef knight[1]
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that was my conclusion also, after running it on my amd64/3200 unit.
....already runnin' two comps...more is *definately* not better....lol
Rich Lamanna wrote:
> Yeah Jeff and Tom, you definitely need a separate, dedicated computer
> to run Giga properly in my experience.
>
> Rich
>
> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
> news:4454ee9a$1@linux...
> ya, me too. Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that
> it take soooo much horsepower to run it that it requires it's own
> comp.
> jef
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>
>> Jef,
>> I am in the same boat as you. After looking them all over
>> Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best aside from Giga. I'm not
>> convinced it's not a buggy piece though. I'd like to hear
>> from someone here who has experience with it.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
>> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
>> news:44523838$1@linux...
>> Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
>>
>> I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include
>> orchestra
>> and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do
>> convincingly. So,
>> I've gotta get a soft sampler.
>> Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna
>> and kirk
>> hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go.
>> Now, as some
>> of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
>> fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd
>> an..ahem..."working
>> demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with
>> it as I
>> thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed
>> to be
>> pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the
>> studio, I
>> don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
>>
>> Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's
>> you take on
>> the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion
>> pro's'n con's.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> jef
>>
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that was my conclusion also, after running it on my amd64/3200 unit.
....already runnin' two comps...more is *definately* not better....lol<br>
<br>
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<div><font size="2">Yeah Jeff and Tom, you definitely need a
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<div>"jef knight" <<a href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>>
wrote in message <a href="news:4454ee9a$1@linux">news:4454ee9a$1@linux</a>...</div>
ya, me too. Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that it
take soooo much horsepower to run it that it requires it's own comp.<br>
jef<br>
<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jef,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I am in the same boat as you.
After looking them all over</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the
best aside from Giga. I'm not</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">convinced it's not a buggy piece
though. I'd like to hear</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">from someone here who has
experience with it.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Tom</font></div>
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<div>"jef knight" <<a
href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>>
wrote in message <a href="news:44523838$1@linux">news:44523838$1@linux</a>...</div>
Hey Dudes and Dudettes...<br>
<br>
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra <br>
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So, <br>
I've gotta get a soft sampler.<br>
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk <br>
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
<br>
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg <br>
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working <br>
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I <br>
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be <br>
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I <br>
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol<br>
<br>
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
<br>
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
<br>
jef</blockquote>
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| Re: OT: Soft Samplers [message #67481 is a reply to message #67453] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 08:24 |
jef knight[1]
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thanks Tom. the Maz seems pretty cool for the $, but I'm leaning towards
the east/west quantum leap orchestra stuff and I believe it native to
kontakt...looks like I'm gonna that route 'n see where it takes me...
jef
TCB wrote:
>I think Kontakt is great software, lots of options for making your own sounds
>or importing other libraries. Lots of 'experimental' sounding filters and
>f/x as well and good external f/x integration. Also, very good sounds ship
>with it. I'm not sure if it's public knowledge but the sample library is
>mostly done by some crazy Germans whose company name rhymes with Bellow Fools.
>I have HALion as well and don't use it much.
>
>Two other options to consider. First, VSampler from MAZ sound
>
>http://www.maz-sound.com/index.php?show=product&id=2
>
>Is a _great_ soft sampler. For under $200 it will do 99% of what most samplists
>need and it has _super_ VST effect integration. So if you don't like the
>delay in the sampler, stuck your favorite VST delay on it. And how about
>a UAD stereo Fairchild where higher velocity lowers the threshold of the
>compressor? Squeezes a little more on the loud sections and lets the softer
>stuff chime through. Very nice.
>
>Also, for string sounds, while I'm not a huge fan of HALion the HALion strings
>module is pretty good and dead easy to program.
>
>TCB
>
>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
>>
>>I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
>>and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
>>I've gotta get a soft sampler.
>>Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
>>hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
>>fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
>>demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
>>thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
>>pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
>>don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
>>
>>Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>jef
>>
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thanks Tom. the Maz seems pretty cool for the $, but I'm leaning
towards the east/west quantum leap orchestra stuff and I believe it
native to kontakt...looks like I'm gonna that route 'n see where it
takes me...<br>
jef<br>
<br>
TCB wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid44550cf5$1@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I think Kontakt is great software, lots of options for making your own sounds
or importing other libraries. Lots of 'experimental' sounding filters and
f/x as well and good external f/x integration. Also, very good sounds ship
with it. I'm not sure if it's public knowledge but the sample library is
mostly done by some crazy Germans whose company name rhymes with Bellow Fools.
I have HALion as well and don't use it much.
Two other options to consider. First, VSampler from MAZ sound
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.maz-sound.com/index.php?show=product&id=2">http://www.maz-sound.com/index.php?show=product&id=2</a>
Is a _great_ soft sampler. For under $200 it will do 99% of what most samplists
need and it has _super_ VST effect integration. So if you don't like the
delay in the sampler, stuck your favorite VST delay on it. And how about
a UAD stereo Fairchild where higher velocity lowers the threshold of the
compressor? Squeezes a little more on the loud sections and lets the softer
stuff chime through. Very nice.
Also, for string sounds, while I'm not a huge fan of HALion the HALion strings
module is pretty good and dead easy to program.
TCB
jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
I've gotta get a soft sampler.
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
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<pre wrap="">of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
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<pre wrap="">the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
cheers
jef
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67482 is a reply to message #67470] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 08:28 |
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hey deej..
I listened to some garritan samples and they seem to be still have that
you-can-tell-it's-artificial aspect to them. i'm leaning towards the
quantum leap stuff. i was considering the vienna library but their
website was somewhat sub-helpful...but that just could have been me/that
last corona/time of day.....lol
DJ wrote:
>I've got the Garritan Personal Orchestra here. It uses the NI Kompact
>interface. It's easy to use and can be pretty convincing if someone other
>than me is using it.
>
>;o)
>
>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>news:44523838$1@linux...
>
>
>>Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
>>
>>I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
>>and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
>>I've gotta get a soft sampler.
>>Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
>>hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
>>of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
>>fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
>>demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
>>thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
>>pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
>>don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
>>
>>Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
>>the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>jef
>>
>>
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hey deej..<br>
I listened to some garritan samples and they seem to be still have that
you-can-tell-it's-artificial aspect to them. i'm leaning towards the
quantum leap stuff. i was considering the vienna library but their
website was somewhat sub-helpful...but that just could have been
me/that last corona/time of day.....lol<br>
<br>
DJ wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid445589a1$1@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I've got the Garritan Personal Orchestra here. It uses the NI Kompact
interface. It's easy to use and can be pretty convincing if someone other
than me is using it.
;o)
"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote in message
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<pre wrap="">Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include orchestra
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. So,
I've gotta get a soft sampler.
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and kirk
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, as some
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd an..ahem..."working
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it as I
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to be
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the studio, I
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you take on
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n con's.
cheers
jef
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| Re: Soft Samplers [message #67614 is a reply to message #67454] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 19:36 |
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Jeff, I already have 2 comps., one running Paris and my Midi Workstation =
and the other running Giga. I've been considering a 3rd comp. dedicated =
to the internet and other non musical apps, but this is getting a bit =
crazy now :-)
Rich
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:4455430d@linux...
Yeah Jeff and Tom, you definitely need a separate, dedicated computer =
to run Giga properly in my experience.
Rich
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:4454ee9a$1@linux...
ya, me too. Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that =
it take soooo much horsepower to run it that it requires it's own comp.
jef
Tom Bruhl wrote:=20
Jef,
I am in the same boat as you. After looking them all over
Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the best aside from Giga. I'm not
convinced it's not a buggy piece though. I'd like to hear
from someone here who has experience with it.
Tom
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:44523838$1@linux...
Hey Dudes and Dudettes...
I've got a project coming up that will neccessarily include =
orchestra=20
and some other fiddly-bits that my synths won't do convincingly. =
So,=20
I've gotta get a soft sampler.
Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like vienna and =
kirk=20
hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way to go. Now, =
as some=20
of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg=20
fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd =
an..ahem..."working=20
demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I wasn't as impressed with it =
as I=20
thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the interface and it seemed to =
be=20
pretty pretty demanding. I already *have* those guys in the =
studio, I=20
don't need my tools to all passive-aggressive too....lol
Before I shell out any actual dough for this cookie, what's you =
take on=20
the whole thing and, more importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n =
con's.
cheers
jef
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Jeff, I already have 2 comps., one running Paris and =
my Midi=20
Workstation and the other running Giga. I've been considering a 3rd =
comp.=20
dedicated to the internet and other non musical apps, but this is =
getting a bit=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yeah Jeff and Tom, you definitely need a separate, =
dedicated computer to run Giga properly in my =
experience.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"jef knight" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com=
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wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4454ee9a$1@linux">news:4454ee9a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>ya, =
me too.=20
Don seem to think it's viable. My take on Giga is that it take soooo =
much=20
horsepower to run it that it requires it's own =
comp.<BR>jef<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jef,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am in the same boat as =
you. After=20
looking them all over</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kontakt 2 looks/sounds like the =
best aside=20
from Giga. I'm not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>convinced it's not a buggy piece=20
though. I'd like to hear</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>from someone here who has =
experience with=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"jef knight" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com=
</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44523838$1@linux">news:44523838$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hey =
Dudes=20
and Dudettes...<BR><BR>I've got a project coming up that will=20
neccessarily include orchestra <BR>and some other fiddly-bits =
that my=20
synths won't do convincingly. So, <BR>I've gotta get a soft=20
sampler.<BR>Having looked at a few of the sample libraries like =
vienna=20
and kirk <BR>hunter, it seems to me that NI Kontakt 2 is the way =
to go.=20
Now, as some <BR>of you may have guessed, I a big steinberg=20
<BR>fan...cubase/nuendo/wavelab/etc.. but having dld'd=20
an..ahem..."working <BR>demo"....cough, cough.. of Halion, I =
wasn't as=20
impressed with it as I <BR>thought I'd be. Wasn't happy with the =
interface and it seemed to be <BR>pretty pretty demanding. I =
already=20
*have* those guys in the studio, I <BR>don't need my tools to =
all=20
passive-aggressive too....lol<BR><BR>Before I shell out any =
actual dough=20
for this cookie, what's you take on <BR>the whole thing and, =
more=20
importantly, on Kontact/Halion pro's'n=20
=
con's.<BR><BR>cheers<BR><BR>jef</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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