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Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81559]

Thu, 15 March 2007 13:40

Kateeba

Messages: 76
Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut

Member

I will be putting out 2 more CD's some time in the near future, but I wanted
to get a good price on "pressed," not "burned" CD packages at lower volume,
like about 300 to start.

For my last CD, I used Oasis, which was great, but I had 1000 made. With
my music being on the abstract side, sales are way too low for that amount,
so I was thinking of cutting back. Oasis offers 500, but I think I would
like to try 300 this time.

I would be looking at a regular jewell case with 4 panel color, bar code,
& shrink wrap.

Any suggestions?

Thanks Lou Guarino

www.enchantedvibrations.com

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81560 is a reply to message #81559]

Thu, 15 March 2007 13:44

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Hi Lou,

The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well until
you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will tell you that 500
cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is worse. Good-quality burned
ones, with good art and packaging may be a better choice, but I hope I
am wrong.

best

DC

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>I will be putting out 2 more CD's some time in the near future, but I wanted
>to get a good price on "pressed," not "burned" CD packages at lower volume,
>like about 300 to start.
>
>For my last CD, I used Oasis, which was great, but I had 1000 made. With
>my music being on the abstract side, sales are way too low for that amount,
>so I was thinking of cutting back. Oasis offers 500, but I think I would
>like to try 300 this time.
>
>I would be looking at a regular jewell case with 4 panel color, bar code,
>& shrink wrap.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks Lou Guarino
>
>www.enchantedvibrations.com

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81570 is a reply to message #81559]

Thu, 15 March 2007 18:19

Gantt Kushner

Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...

Senior Member

I send a lot of folks to Rich Krentz at eopco.com. Tell him I sent you -
maybe he'll be really nice to me when i finally record my own CD!

Gantt

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>I will be putting out 2 more CD's some time in the near future, but I wanted
>to get a good price on "pressed," not "burned" CD packages at lower volume,
>like about 300 to start.
>
>For my last CD, I used Oasis, which was great, but I had 1000 made. With
>my music being on the abstract side, sales are way too low for that amount,
>so I was thinking of cutting back. Oasis offers 500, but I think I would
>like to try 300 this time.
>
>I would be looking at a regular jewell case with 4 panel color, bar code,
>& shrink wrap.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks Lou Guarino
>
>www.enchantedvibrations.com

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81582 is a reply to message #81560]

Thu, 15 March 2007 22:37

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Lou,
>
>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>worse.

*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
sold for an avg. of $10 each).
***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.

*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
sold for an avg. of $10 each).
***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.

Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.

Neil

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81594 is a reply to message #81582]

Fri, 16 March 2007 09:11

Kateeba

Messages: 76
Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut

Member

Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.

I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them pressed,
with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio stations
and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot of them.
The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.

You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.

Lou

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Lou,
>>
>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>worse.
>
>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>
>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>
>
>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>
>Neil

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81609 is a reply to message #81594]

Fri, 16 March 2007 13:01

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
a call.

http://www.cdsg.com/

they are the best in the biz IMO.

DC

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.
>
>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them pressed,
>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio
stations
>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot of
them.
> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>
>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>
>Lou
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Lou,
>>>
>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>worse.
>>
>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>
>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>
>>
>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>
>>Neil
>

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81622 is a reply to message #81609]

Fri, 16 March 2007 18:33

Kateeba

Messages: 76
Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut

Member

Looks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most places.
I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do the digipaks
for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.
So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
- unless I find better before then.

Thanks

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
>a call.
>
>http://www.cdsg.com/
>
>they are the best in the biz IMO.
>
>DC
>
>
>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>
>>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.
>>
>>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them pressed,
>>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio
>stations
>>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot of
>them.
>> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
>>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>>
>>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>>
>>Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Lou,
>>>>
>>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>>worse.
>>>
>>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>
>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81626 is a reply to message #81622]

Fri, 16 March 2007 19:34

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Oh, CDSG is on a whole different level from Discmakers. Have you
called them or emailed? If they don't want to do 300 then DM may be
your best shot.

DC

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>Looks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most places.
> I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do the
digipaks
>for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.

>So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
>- unless I find better before then.
>
>Thanks
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
>>a call.
>>
>>http://www.cdsg.com/
>>
>>they are the best in the biz IMO.
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.

>>>
>>>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them
pressed,
>>>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio
>>stations
>>>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot of
>>them.
>>> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
>>>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>>>
>>>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>>>
>>>Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Lou,
>>>>>
>>>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>>>worse.
>>>>
>>>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>>
>>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>
>>
>

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81641 is a reply to message #81626]

Sat, 17 March 2007 05:03

Kateeba

Messages: 76
Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut

Member

So why are they on a different level??? What makes them so special or better
than the other places? I would like to know facts if you please. Thanks

Lou

"DC" <dc@spamme rsinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Oh, CDSG is on a whole different level from Discmakers. Have you
>called them or emailed? If they don't want to do 300 then DM may be
>your best shot.
>
>DC
>
>
>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>
>>Looks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most
places.
>> I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do the
>digipaks
>>for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.
>
>>So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
>>- unless I find better before then.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
>>>a call.
>>>
>>>http://www.cdsg.com/
>>>
>>>they are the best in the biz IMO.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.

>
>>>>
>>>>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them
>pressed,
>>>>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio
>>>stations
>>>>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot
of
>>>them.
>>>> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
>>>>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>>>>
>>>>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>>>>
>>>>Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Lou,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>>>>worse.
>>>>>
>>>>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>>>
>>>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81642 is a reply to message #81626]

Sat, 17 March 2007 05:06

Kateeba

Messages: 76
Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut

Member

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81660 is a reply to message #81641]

Sat, 17 March 2007 14:09

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

CDSG is a boutique high-end outfit. Their stuff is gorgeous
their attention to detail is superb and they are used to working
with top pros and producers. They treat you like royalty and
their art work is the best in the biz. DM is for the little local
guy just needing a few decent discs and they do fine for that.
I only use CDSG for all my classical stuff and couldn't be happier.

For someone who just wants 300, I would certainly call them
and see if you can work it out. It's worth that much time investment.

Oh, and their prices are usually better...

DC

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>
>So why are they on a different level??? What makes them so special or better
>than the other places? I would like to know facts if you please. Thanks
>
>Lou
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spamme rsinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Oh, CDSG is on a whole different level from Discmakers. Have you
>>called them or emailed? If they don't want to do 300 then DM may be
>>your best shot.
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Looks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most
>places.
>>> I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do the
>>digipaks
>>>for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.
>>
>>>So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
>>>- unless I find better before then.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
>>>>a call.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.cdsg.com/
>>>>
>>>>they are the best in the biz IMO.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.

>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them
>>pressed,
>>>>>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio
>>>>stations
>>>>>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot
>of
>>>>them.
>>>>> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
>>>>>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>>>>>
>>>>>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lou
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Lou,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>>>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>>>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>>>>>worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81680 is a reply to message #81660]

Sun, 18 March 2007 09:10

Kateeba

Messages: 76
Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut

Member

You got me with the prices are better part. I will give them a call when
the time comes. I have a part of one piece to finish, then I have to contact
Sakis for my mastering, then off it goes to manufacture.

Thanks

Lou

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>CDSG is a boutique high-end outfit. Their stuff is gorgeous
>their attention to detail is superb and they are used to working
>with top pros and producers. They treat you like royalty and
>their art work is the best in the biz. DM is for the little local
>guy just needing a few decent discs and they do fine for that.
>I only use CDSG for all my classical stuff and couldn't be happier.
>
>For someone who just wants 300, I would certainly call them
>and see if you can work it out. It's worth that much time investment.
>
>Oh, and their prices are usually better...
>
>DC
>
>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>So why are they on a different level??? What makes them so special or
better
>>than the other places? I would like to know facts if you please. Thanks
>>
>>Lou
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spamme rsinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Oh, CDSG is on a whole different level from Discmakers. Have you
>>>called them or emailed? If they don't want to do 300 then DM may be
>>>your best shot.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Looks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most
>>places.
>>>> I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do the
>>>digipaks
>>>>for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.
>>>
>>>>So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
>>>>- unless I find better before then.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
>>>>>a call.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.cdsg.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>they are the best in the biz IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them
>>>pressed,
>>>>>>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio
>>>>>stations
>>>>>>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot
>>of
>>>>>them.
>>>>>> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
>>>>>>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Lou,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>>>>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>>>>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>>>>>>worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>>>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>>>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: Best place to have CD's manufactured [message #81693 is a reply to message #81680]

Sun, 18 March 2007 13:18

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Let me know how that works out, would you?

thanks

DC

Sakis rocks, as you know.

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>You got me with the prices are better part. I will give them a call when
>the time comes. I have a part of one piece to finish, then I have to contact
>Sakis for my mastering, then off it goes to manufacture.
>
>Thanks
>
>Lou
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>CDSG is a boutique high-end outfit. Their stuff is gorgeous
>>their attention to detail is superb and they are used to working
>>with top pros and producers. They treat you like royalty and
>>their art work is the best in the biz. DM is for the little local
>>guy just needing a few decent discs and they do fine for that.
>>I only use CDSG for all my classical stuff and couldn't be happier.
>>
>>For someone who just wants 300, I would certainly call them
>>and see if you can work it out. It's worth that much time investment.
>>
>>Oh, and their prices are usually better...
>>
>>DC
>>
>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>So why are they on a different level??? What makes them so special or
>better
>>>than the other places? I would like to know facts if you please. Thanks
>>>
>>>Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spamme rsinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Oh, CDSG is on a whole different level from Discmakers. Have you
>>>>called them or emailed? If they don't want to do 300 then DM may be
>>>>your best shot.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Looks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most
>>>places.
>>>>> I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do
the
>>>>digipaks
>>>>>for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.
>>>>
>>>>>So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
>>>>>- unless I find better before then.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think 300 may be fewer than they will do, but you can give them
>>>>>>a call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.cdsg.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>they are the best in the biz IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them
>>>>pressed,
>>>>>>>with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the
radio
>>>>>>stations
>>>>>>>and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot
>>>of
>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>> The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole
artisic
>>>>>>>package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi Lou,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>>>>>>>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>>>>>>>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>>>>>>>>worse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>>>>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>>>>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>>>>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>>>>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>>>>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>>>>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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