 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105320] |
Tue, 25 May 2010 10:50  |
hungaristan
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A few months ago I promised to get back with the details of my new PARIS setup, so here it is:
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Dual Six-Core Opteron 2.2GHz
Supermicro H8DA8-2 mobo
8GB RAM
Promise SuperTrak EX8650 8 channel RAID
Two Firewire800 cards
Two Acer touchscreens
UAD2-Quad
TC Powercore 6000
VirtuaVia expansion chassis with 4 EDS-1000 cards, 2 MECs
RME Fireface 800
Native KORE 2
Novation Remote Zero SL
ESI M8U XL MIDI Interface
Win Xp Pro 32 bit
Win 7 64 bit
Cubase 5
Native Komplete 5, Komplete 6
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I never had to struggle so hard for such a long time to get a PC working reliably.
I started with a Tyan mobo and everything looked fine until I installed Win 7 64 bit, when an endless nightmare of untraceable random BSODs started. It took weeks of tireless investigation to finally surrender and get the Supermicro mobo (for another 400$).
With the exception of some minor glitches during the configurations it finally works really nicely now.
So, if anyone has plans to set up a new machine for W7 64 bit, these components seem to like each other.
So, what's the missing link in this system? Yes, it's the 64 bit Scherzo driver, of course... Mike, could we fast wind to Christmas now? 
Endre
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| Re: 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105346 is a reply to message #105320] |
Mon, 07 June 2010 01:59  |
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Cool I've been waiting for this post for a while now hungaristan! Thank you for posting.
hungaristan does Paris run ok with the most current drivers for xp?
basically with this win7 system you have spec'ed out here will Paris run ok on it, within the win7 operating system?
Or do you boot up into xp to run Paris on this rig for now.
If you run Paris in win7 on this rig, why exactly do you need 64 bit drivers to have more access to 4gb+ ram for plugins and more cores etc?
thanks again for posting i'll be getting my win 7 paris rig together now!!! i can't wait to get this rig going cause i also got an rme ff800 as well!!!
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| Re: 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105348 is a reply to message #105346] |
Mon, 07 June 2010 06:41 |
hungaristan
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| rokuez wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 10:59 | Cool I've been waiting for this post for a while now hungaristan! Thank you for posting.
hungaristan does Paris run ok with the most current drivers for xp?
basically with this win7 system you have spec'ed out here will Paris run ok on it, within the win7 operating system?
Or do you boot up into xp to run Paris on this rig for now.
If you run Paris in win7 on this rig, why exactly do you need 64 bit drivers to have more access to 4gb+ ram for plugins and more cores etc?
thanks again for posting i'll be getting my win 7 paris rig together now!!! i can't wait to get this rig going cause i also got an rme ff800 as well!!!
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There are 4 OS's in the system:
WinXP Pro 32 bit:
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All audio hardware and software is available here, this is my PARIS system (with Mike's driver).
The only thing that doesn't work here is the Acer touch screens. They were too lazy to write the Xp drivers (which was not clearly stated on their website when I checked it before buying). If I had known this I would have never bought them, hp and Dell touch screens work under Xp for the same price.
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit:
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All audio hardware and software is available, except PARIS and Wavelab (the 64 bit release is coming out soon)
Win 7 Ultimate 32 bit:
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All audio hardware and software is available, except PARIS.
This partition was installed on the Tyan mobo, when I tried to trace down whether the BSODs were caused by Win 7 in general or they were present on the 64 bit version only. Everything works fine here, but now that I have a fully working 64 bit Win 7 system with the Supermicro mobo, this partition is not needed any more.
WinXP Pro 32 bit:
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This partition was installed during the investigations and experiments with various OS and BIOS settings. There's nothing here (not even the mobo drivers), except Acronis True Image.
I'm still using this partition and I perform all disk management tasks for all partitions from here (regular backups, restores, defrags etc.).
In theory it's not necessary to have this partition, but my experience has shown that it'smuch safer to have a system on a separate HD that's not in daily use (i.e. no updates, failed installs or anything else could mess it up) and the other partitions can be fixed from here in case of a disaster.
So, basically I'm bouncing back and forth between Win Xp 32 and Win7 64 for my audio and video work. The new 64 bit Scherzo drivers would make Xp redundant and I'd use Win 7 64 bit only.
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| Re: 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105541 is a reply to message #105538] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 16:08 |
hungaristan
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| kerryg wrote on Sun, 15 August 2010 21:44 | Unfortunately, it probably moves too fast to photograph 
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Very wrong. The beast is over 45 kg, I hardly could lift it up to put it on the table during the installation. Whales are not known for their speed.
It's not gonna be too easy to take pictures of it, though, because it's in the studio rack cabinet, where it won't be easy to make its inside visible, but I'll do my best.
Just one serious thought on speed: I've never seen the CPU load to go higher than 30-40% during normal operation of my audio system, but it seems that it will take some time for the developers to efficiently make use of these multicore systems. E.g. I often get VST peaks with some NI VST instruments (10-12 instances in total), while the system CPU load is still around 30%, which is somewhat disappointing.
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| Re: 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105830 is a reply to message #105541] |
Tue, 09 November 2010 04:01 |
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sorry if this is a dumb question.
I haven't build a PC in some time, so maybe i"m not super familiar with the benefits of the Promise SuperTrak EX8650 8 channel RAID.
The Promise SuperTrak EX8650 8 channel RAID is for connecting multiple hard drives?
If so how many hard drives are attached to this rig?
Why not just use the sata connections (at least i assume its not IDE anymore) from the mobo?
Or do you need the Promise SuperTrak EX8650 8 channel RAID because you can't connect more then X amount of hd's just using the mobos sata connections.
Second thing I'm wondering about is what kind of ram you are specifically using for these 8 gb's?
I'm assuming it won't make a difference i suppose, but I just want to make sure as its been three or four years sense i've assembled a pc.
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| Re: 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105831 is a reply to message #105830] |
Tue, 09 November 2010 04:53 |
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The Promise SuperTrak EX8650 8 channel RAID is for connecting multiple hard drives?
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yes
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If so how many hard drives are attached to this rig?
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8
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Or do you need the Promise SuperTrak EX8650 8 channel RAID because you can't connect more then X amount of hd's just using the mobos sata connections.
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That's one reason.
The second one is security (RAID 5 can tolerate the failure of any of the attached disks without losing its data)
The third one is increased read/write performance (due to the distributed r/w actions across the drives). This one has not so much importance for most audio applications, as a single SATA drive has enough throughput to handle really high track counts, but it's a must for video apps, because no single drive will play back 8 HD video channels simultaneously in multicam mode and I'm using the machine for video editing, too.
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Second thing I'm wondering about is what kind of ram you are specifically using for these 8 gb's?
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Kingston ValueRAM - 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 - 667 MHz / PC2-5300 - ECC (KVR667D2S4P5K2/4G)
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| Re: 12 Core W7 64 machine is waiting for Mike's 64 bit driver [message #105846 is a reply to message #105845] |
Sat, 20 November 2010 14:18 |
hungaristan
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| rokuez wrote on Sat, 20 November 2010 13:05 | just ordered the Supermicro H8DA8-2 mobo!
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You won't regret it.
| Quote: | i've been looking at the Dual six core 2.2 opteron what kind of fan/heat sink combo did you get?
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I bought an Innovatek case with integrated water cooling: (their site is in German only)
http:// www.webshop-innovatek.de/shop/Wasserkuehlung/Fertiggehaeuse/ Chieftec-BIG-Tower-AP-Dual.html
With all the accessories (RAM coolers, chipset cooler, 10 HDD coolers) it cost over $1400. It's very quiet (although not completely noiseless, because passive cooling is not enough for this machine, so there's a microcontroller that operates two large fans when needed). I'm quite happy with it, but it's very expensive and it was difficult to set up (connecting all the modules with pipes, filling up the system etc.), so I'd recommend to check this out instead:
http://tech-reviews.co.uk/reviews/asus-axe-square-cpu-cooler/
I put together a new machine based on the Tyan mobo that I bought before the Supermicro for my audio system and used these coolers. Way cheaper and as quiet as the Innovatek (although they cool the CPU only and the Innovatek case takes care of all other parts, too).
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