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Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83138] Sun, 15 April 2007 16:14 Go to next message
Kateeba is currently offline  Kateeba   
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I just read this and it made me think about the industry and who buys what,
and what the future might hold.

So what do you people think???

http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/rUnJmz9vjqgbZu/In-a-World- of-iPods-Will-the-CD-Go-the-Way-of-Vinyl.xhtml

Lou


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www.enchantedvibrations.net
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83146 is a reply to message #83138] Mon, 16 April 2007 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
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Its a hard question to avoid. I think that CD's, like vinyl, will
eventually occupy a niche, but music develvered by the web seems the future.
If you think of web pages as "cover art," at least we'll be able to
"package" the music with all kinds of visuals. I remember when folks used
to be very concerned about record covers shrinking down to jewel-case size.
MR
"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> I just read this and it made me think about the industry and who buys
what,
> and what the future might hold.
>
> So what do you people think???
>
>
http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/rUnJmz9vjqgbZu/In-a-World- of-iPods-Will-the-CD-Go-the-Way-of-Vinyl.xhtml
>
> Lou
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83149 is a reply to message #83146] Mon, 16 April 2007 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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In short, yes and no. Do i think album is all but dead? Yes.
Do i think CD's will go away as a medium completely? Nah, not
for awhile anyway; some people still like to hold a product in
their hands.

What bothers me the most about this trend, however, is the fact
that music has become just another low-end commodity, worth
anywhere from nothing, to a buck; depending on the perception
of who it is you're asking.

Neil


"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Its a hard question to avoid. I think that CD's, like vinyl, will
>eventually occupy a niche, but music develvered by the web seems the future.
>If you think of web pages as "cover art," at least we'll be able to
>"package" the music with all kinds of visuals. I remember when folks used
>to be very concerned about record covers shrinking down to jewel-case size.
>MR
>"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote in message
>news:4622b1f1$1@linux...
>>
>> I just read this and it made me think about the industry and who buys
>what,
>> and what the future might hold.
>>
>> So what do you people think???
>>
>>
> http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/rUnJmz9vjqgbZu/In-a-World- of-iPods-Will-the-CD-Go-the-Way-of-Vinyl.xhtml
>>
>> Lou
>
>
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83167 is a reply to message #83149] Mon, 16 April 2007 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:

>
>What bothers me the most about this trend, however, is the fact
>that music has become just another low-end commodity, worth
>anywhere from nothing, to a buck; depending on the perception
>of who it is you're asking.
>

curiously, isn't a buck what 45s used to cost? I remember when that was the
totality of my music purchases...
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83180 is a reply to message #83138] Mon, 16 April 2007 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I think, oddly enough, the CD will continue on as a 'direct marketing' tool
for independent bands but that's about it. We usually sell a few CDs at every
Monkies show but at CD baby and the iTunes store (I know it's possible to
order it at the former, don't know about the latter as I won't deal with
DRM'd files) we've had a handful of CD orders and probably six or seven handfuls
of download orders.

Keep in mind that of the $15 that you give the guy at the checkout counter
in the vast majority of cases the artist gets around a buck of it. So one
$10 direct sale is worth is five bucks cheaper for the customer and 10X the
compensation for the band. Those economics make some sense to me, while I
don't think the label/distributor/Wal-Mart or Mom and Pop model does at all.


TCB

"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>I just read this and it made me think about the industry and who buys what,
>and what the future might hold.
>
>So what do you people think???
>
> http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/rUnJmz9vjqgbZu/In-a-World- of-iPods-Will-the-CD-Go-the-Way-of-Vinyl.xhtml
>
>Lou
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83194 is a reply to message #83149] Mon, 16 April 2007 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On 16 Apr 2007 23:32:22 +1000, "Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:

>
>In short, yes and no. Do i think album is all but dead? Yes.
>Do i think CD's will go away as a medium completely? Nah, not
>for awhile anyway; some people still like to hold a product in
>their hands.
>
>What bothers me the most about this trend, however, is the fact
>that music has become just another low-end commodity, worth
>anywhere from nothing, to a buck; depending on the perception
>of who it is you're asking.
>

What also bothers me about the online music thing, as well as the
online video thing, is that we are developing an entire generation of
consumers who accept 128k mp3's as hi-fidelity. Same thing with
online video and most dvd's. Unreasonable mpeg compression, chunky
artifacts, sections of background that drag along and just jump....

And yet all I hear at the local Best Buy is people raving about the
image on the new hi-def tv's when compression artifacts are plainly
visible.

They're just all being trained to accept crappy,
super-high-compression content as "pure digital quality."

Gives a really bad name to digital.

pab, curmudgeon-in-training.
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83214 is a reply to message #83194] Mon, 16 April 2007 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>And yet all I hear at the local Best Buy is people raving
about the
>image on the new hi-def tv's when compression artifacts are
plainly visible.

I can't see any artifacts in hi-def TV unless the satellite
feed is glitching. Are you seeing these a lot? (now, I want to
be clear that I am NOT talking about a hi-def signal that's
being run through a convertor box to get to show on a lo-res
screen).

>They're just all being trained to accept crappy,
>super-high-compression content as "pure digital quality."

I'm tellin' ya, we need to come up with a line of square
speakers - that way you can advertise them as being "digital
all the way to the cone!"

:)
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83236 is a reply to message #83214] Tue, 17 April 2007 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Just make the speaker with 2 cones, one shaped like a 1 and the other a 0.
Tell them, this speaker only does the 1's and this one the 0's. PURE DIGITAL
!
Re: Do you think the CD will eventually go the way of vinyl? [message #83242 is a reply to message #83236] Tue, 17 April 2007 06:31 Go to previous message
Nei is currently offline  Nei
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Just make the speaker with 2 cones, one shaped like a 1 and the other a
0.
> Tell them, this speaker only does the 1's and this one the 0's. PURE
DIGITAL

DOH! Yes, but in that case, each speaker could only be one
sample thick, in order to prevent phase issues.

:D
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