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What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66919] Sun, 16 April 2006 15:33 Go to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Registered: February 2007
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Hi gang,

I asked this question, or something like it, many months ago, but
nursing school's data overload has long since pushed all your responses
right out of my brain.

The question is, to version 3 or not to version 3? The only thing I
remember that attracted me to it was the ability to render tracks, which
sounded like a handy feature.

Any notable problems with v3?

Would it be happy on a old Pentiumosaurus w/Windows '98? Or would I
have to talk the owner into finally upgrading? And which OS does v3 prefer?

Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
Doritos and the remote?

Should I just forget PARIS (like Debra Winger and Billy Crystal)?

Thank you so much,

Sarah

www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66931 is a reply to message #66919] Sun, 16 April 2006 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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Registered: September 2005
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The Graphic EQ is excellent. Try it in XP. If it works for you it will
be a far superior setup.

Sarah wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> I asked this question, or something like it, many months ago, but
> nursing school's data overload has long since pushed all your responses
> right out of my brain.
>
> The question is, to version 3 or not to version 3? The only thing I
> remember that attracted me to it was the ability to render tracks, which
> sounded like a handy feature.
>
> Any notable problems with v3?
>
> Would it be happy on a old Pentiumosaurus w/Windows '98? Or would I
> have to talk the owner into finally upgrading? And which OS does v3 prefer?
>
> Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
> Doritos and the remote?
>
> Should I just forget PARIS (like Debra Winger and Billy Crystal)?
>
> Thank you so much,
>
> Sarah
>
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66933 is a reply to message #66931] Sun, 16 April 2006 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Edna Sloan is currently offline  Edna Sloan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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I like it much better than 2.2. I'm using XP Pro. It also has some basic
midi features, fader grouping, a wave editor and more. There is one feature
that doesn't work, but can't recall at the moment, but nothing critical.
You can download the manual and see what's new - from the EMUor ID site I
believe.
Edna

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4442df0c@linux...
> The Graphic EQ is excellent. Try it in XP. If it works for you it will
> be a far superior setup.
>
> Sarah wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > I asked this question, or something like it, many months ago, but
> > nursing school's data overload has long since pushed all your responses
> > right out of my brain.
> >
> > The question is, to version 3 or not to version 3? The only thing I
> > remember that attracted me to it was the ability to render tracks, which
> > sounded like a handy feature.
> >
> > Any notable problems with v3?
> >
> > Would it be happy on a old Pentiumosaurus w/Windows '98? Or would I
> > have to talk the owner into finally upgrading? And which OS does v3
prefer?
> >
> > Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
> > Doritos and the remote?
> >
> > Should I just forget PARIS (like Debra Winger and Billy Crystal)?
> >
> > Thank you so much,
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
> >
> >
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66935 is a reply to message #66933] Sun, 16 April 2006 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
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>> Sarah wrote:
>> > Hi gang,
>> > I asked this question, or something like it, many months ago, but
>> > nursing school's data overload has long since pushed all your responses
>> > right out of my brain.

>> > The question is, to version 3 or not to version 3? The only thing
>> > I
>> > remember that attracted me to it was the ability to render tracks,
>> > which
>> > sounded like a handy feature.
>> >
>> > Any notable problems with v3?

Rendering: don't use DOS unfriendly characters or naming. No spaces, no
@#$^&(*_ type characters and use 8 or less characters in the channel strip.
It is indeed a very handy feature.
Compact files: Doesn't work, don't bother.
Midi: sucks, don't bother.
Ver3 also likes a little more cache than 2.2 in the config file.
Native mixes: just don't. They work, but they sound sterile and as DJ
can tell you they have some real dangerous quirks.
Another biggie is, welcome to the world of PACE. Scour the paris
websites and follow the instructions for use with XP. Also, realize that by
going XP your adat machines (if you even have any) will no longer follow
with the 9 pin sync and you can only have one adat card per MEC. Some ppl
have the 9 pin sync working with other sources, but I never got it to lock
up to a real adat machine. I can't remember if the adat machines worked for
some or not on ver 3 and ME/9x. I sold my adats and stopped trying years
ago - might not have all the details right on this one.
Version 3 also doesn't have the DSP effects list problem 2.xx does. You
can actually see them all when you add the freebies Chuck gave away (again,
see the paris websites for info hosted by various members here). Speaking of
freebies.... FreakQ has issues, you probably wanna skip that one.

>> > Would it be happy on a old Pentiumosaurus w/Windows '98? Or would
>> > I
>> > have to talk the owner into finally upgrading? And which OS does v3
> prefer?

Dunno about that. I use WinXP here. Seems like I may have installed to ME at
one point, but I don't remember details other than it worked.

>> > Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
>> > Doritos and the remote?

Yes. Install them to different paths. Install 2.2 first, then 3. Something
like C:\Paris and C:\ParisPro would do just fine. Keep in mind Paris 2.xx
and older will NOT open a Paris 3 PPJ if you saved any DSP effects to an
Aux.

>> > Should I just forget PARIS (like Debra Winger and Billy Crystal)?
>> >
>> > Thank you so much,
>> >
>> > Sarah
>> >
>> > www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm


Did I forget anything guys and gals?

AA


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Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66938 is a reply to message #66935] Sun, 16 April 2006 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005
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version 3 works with adats in ME/98. It's the jump to XP that makes adats
not work. The adat 9 pin sync works with other sources, (under XP) just not
with adats.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>> > Hi gang,
>>> > I asked this question, or something like it, many months ago, but
>>> > nursing school's data overload has long since pushed all your responses
>>> > right out of my brain.
>
>>> > The question is, to version 3 or not to version 3? The only thing

>>> > I
>>> > remember that attracted me to it was the ability to render tracks,

>>> > which
>>> > sounded like a handy feature.
>>> >
>>> > Any notable problems with v3?
>
> Rendering: don't use DOS unfriendly characters or naming. No spaces,
no
>@#$^&(*_ type characters and use 8 or less characters in the channel strip.

>It is indeed a very handy feature.
> Compact files: Doesn't work, don't bother.
> Midi: sucks, don't bother.
> Ver3 also likes a little more cache than 2.2 in the config file.
> Native mixes: just don't. They work, but they sound sterile and as DJ

>can tell you they have some real dangerous quirks.
> Another biggie is, welcome to the world of PACE. Scour the paris
>websites and follow the instructions for use with XP. Also, realize that
by
>going XP your adat machines (if you even have any) will no longer follow

>with the 9 pin sync and you can only have one adat card per MEC. Some ppl

>have the 9 pin sync working with other sources, but I never got it to lock

>up to a real adat machine. I can't remember if the adat machines worked
for
>some or not on ver 3 and ME/9x. I sold my adats and stopped trying years

>ago - might not have all the details right on this one.
> Version 3 also doesn't have the DSP effects list problem 2.xx does.
You
>can actually see them all when you add the freebies Chuck gave away (again,

>see the paris websites for info hosted by various members here). Speaking
of
>freebies.... FreakQ has issues, you probably wanna skip that one.
>
>>> > Would it be happy on a old Pentiumosaurus w/Windows '98? Or would

>>> > I
>>> > have to talk the owner into finally upgrading? And which OS does v3
>> prefer?
>
>Dunno about that. I use WinXP here. Seems like I may have installed to ME
at
>one point, but I don't remember details other than it worked.
>
>>> > Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over
the
>>> > Doritos and the remote?
>
>Yes. Install them to different paths. Install 2.2 first, then 3. Something

>like C:\Paris and C:\ParisPro would do just fine. Keep in mind Paris 2.xx

>and older will NOT open a Paris 3 PPJ if you saved any DSP effects to an

>Aux.
>
>>> > Should I just forget PARIS (like Debra Winger and Billy Crystal)?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you so much,
>>> >
>>> > Sarah
>>> >
>>> > www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
>Did I forget anything guys and gals?
>
>AA
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66940 is a reply to message #66938] Sun, 16 April 2006 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   
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Registered: January 2009
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>>
>>
>>Did I forget anything guys and gals?

On Macs (not relevant here, but maybe of interest to others reading this)
Ver 3
also enabled saving of all Native (VST) Insert info in the mix. You no longer
had
to rebuild all the Insert effects everytime you opened up a project. Win
users never
had to worry about this...
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #66973 is a reply to message #66919] Mon, 17 April 2006 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Thank you everyone, for your detailed responses! :)

Sarah


"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:4442c9f3$1@linux...
> Hi gang,
>
> I asked this question, or something like it, many months ago, but
> nursing school's data overload has long since pushed all your responses
> right out of my brain.
>
> The question is, to version 3 or not to version 3? The only thing I
> remember that attracted me to it was the ability to render tracks, which
> sounded like a handy feature.
>
> Any notable problems with v3?
>
> Would it be happy on a old Pentiumosaurus w/Windows '98? Or would I
> have to talk the owner into finally upgrading? And which OS does v3
> prefer?
>
> Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
> Doritos and the remote?
>
> Should I just forget PARIS (like Debra Winger and Billy Crystal)?
>
> Thank you so much,
>
> Sarah
>
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #67042 is a reply to message #66919] Tue, 18 April 2006 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wmarkwilson is currently offline  wmarkwilson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 114
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Yes. Quite happily. There is a procedure however.

Dubya

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:4442c9f3$1@linux...
> Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
> Doritos and the remote?
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #67062 is a reply to message #67042] Tue, 18 April 2006 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
Senior Member
Hey, Dubya. Thanks for chiming in. :)
Don't say "procedure" . . . I hate procedures.
OK, so is there more to the procedure than installing 2.2 first and then v3
to a different path?
How's the kids?

Sarah


"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote in message
news:4445694f$1@linux...
> Yes. Quite happily. There is a procedure however.
>
> Dubya
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:4442c9f3$1@linux...
>> Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
>> Doritos and the remote?
>
>
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #67064 is a reply to message #66973] Tue, 18 April 2006 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wmarkwilson is currently offline  wmarkwilson   UNITED STATES
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Kids is good.

You'll wanna have 2.2 installed first.... presuming you have that already:

Drag a complete *copy* of the 2.2 install directory to your desktop.

Then uninstall 2.2.

Delete the original 2.2 folder (not the copy on your desktop)

Empty recycle.

Reboot.

Install v3 to a directory of a name different from the old 2.2 install dir.

(FWIW, my installs are)

C:\Program Files\EMU\PARIS 2.2
C:\Program Files\EMU\PARIS 3.0

After v3 install reboot.

Launch v3 just to make sure all is well. (you may have to tweak your new
PARIS.cfg file)

Close v3

Drag the desktop copy of 2.2 back to it's original location.

You're done. Now you can lauch either.

Now for my secret tip of the day, just for kicks, or for organization and
time's sake, for any folks who use both versions on one OS install, if you
got a folder in which you worked a project with 2.2, place a copy of the 2.2
executable in that folder. Worked the contents of another folder with
3.0?... put a copy of the v3 .exe in that folder. Double Click either and
they fire up and run just like they're running from their respective install
dirs.

I've mentioned this before but I think I'm probably the only guy doing it.

Dubya
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #67069 is a reply to message #67064] Wed, 19 April 2006 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Yeah, I don't even have 2.2 installed anymore.
Rod
"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote:
>Kids is good.
>
>You'll wanna have 2.2 installed first.... presuming you have that already:
>
>Drag a complete *copy* of the 2.2 install directory to your desktop.
>
>Then uninstall 2.2.
>
>Delete the original 2.2 folder (not the copy on your desktop)
>
>Empty recycle.
>
>Reboot.
>
>Install v3 to a directory of a name different from the old 2.2 install dir.
>
>(FWIW, my installs are)
>
>C:\Program Files\EMU\PARIS 2.2
>C:\Program Files\EMU\PARIS 3.0
>
>After v3 install reboot.
>
>Launch v3 just to make sure all is well. (you may have to tweak your new

>PARIS.cfg file)
>
>Close v3
>
>Drag the desktop copy of 2.2 back to it's original location.
>
>You're done. Now you can lauch either.
>
>Now for my secret tip of the day, just for kicks, or for organization and

>time's sake, for any folks who use both versions on one OS install, if you

>got a folder in which you worked a project with 2.2, place a copy of the
2.2
>executable in that folder. Worked the contents of another folder with
>3.0?... put a copy of the v3 .exe in that folder. Double Click either and

>they fire up and run just like they're running from their respective install

>dirs.
>
>I've mentioned this before but I think I'm probably the only guy doing it.
>
>Dubya
>
>
Re: What to do . . . what to do . . . [message #67327 is a reply to message #67064] Tue, 25 April 2006 01:05 Go to previous message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
Senior Member
Thank you ever so much. I'll try it. :)

Sarah J. Tonin


"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote in message
news:4445dc96$1@linux...
> Kids is good.
>
> You'll wanna have 2.2 installed first.... presuming you have that already:
>
> Drag a complete *copy* of the 2.2 install directory to your desktop.
>
> Then uninstall 2.2.
>
> Delete the original 2.2 folder (not the copy on your desktop)
>
> Empty recycle.
>
> Reboot.
>
> Install v3 to a directory of a name different from the old 2.2 install
> dir.
>
> (FWIW, my installs are)
>
> C:\Program Files\EMU\PARIS 2.2
> C:\Program Files\EMU\PARIS 3.0
>
> After v3 install reboot.
>
> Launch v3 just to make sure all is well. (you may have to tweak your new
> PARIS.cfg file)
>
> Close v3
>
> Drag the desktop copy of 2.2 back to it's original location.
>
> You're done. Now you can lauch either.
>
> Now for my secret tip of the day, just for kicks, or for organization and
> time's sake, for any folks who use both versions on one OS install, if you
> got a folder in which you worked a project with 2.2, place a copy of the
> 2.2 executable in that folder. Worked the contents of another folder with
> 3.0?... put a copy of the v3 .exe in that folder. Double Click either and
> they fire up and run just like they're running from their respective
> install dirs.
>
> I've mentioned this before but I think I'm probably the only guy doing it.
>
> Dubya
>
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