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| Re: Ping: Deej SSL Duende [message #101631 is a reply to message #101630] |
Sun, 14 December 2008 22:13  |
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Deej [5]
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Registered: March 2008
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"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Deej, so you're saying that Cubase doesn't have the latency issues that
>Paris does?
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>Rich
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It depends on what you consider to be a latency problem. Here's how latency
is dealt with in Cubase:
1. You need a pretty powerful rig to run Cubase at low latency (1.5ms/64k
buffers). This will get you the same latency as Paris, more or less
2. You can use native plugins as reverb sends while tracking..the less CPU
hungry and latency prone, the better. You can also use the UAD-2 in low latency
mode while tracking though this will significantly hit your cpu...thus my
admonition about having a fast computer. To my knowledge, Duende does not
have the same low latency capability that UAD-2 does so you probably won't
be able to use it. Using outboard gear is sorta mandatory if you're running
a big session and you need processing going on while tracking so Paris has
the edge when tracking because you can use the EDS FX.
Once everything is tracked, you can raise the buffer levels and start using
DSP cards like POCO, UAD-2/UAD-1 and Duende on output channels and Cubase
will automatically compensate for the delay. The only VST/VSTi situation
that I know of where it isn't flawless is with Drumagog..and especially with
Drumagog BFD. with those two, it is necessary to really get anal with sample
alignment because, at least on my rig, Cubase delay compensation does not
work properly.
If you are in the middle of a mix and you have a project loaded up with a
dozen or more DSP card based processors and you need o OD for some reason,
Cubase has a global disable button so you can track without the instantiated
plugins causing unacceptable latency or maxing out your CPU.
The Cubase control room function is a dream come true if you've got an adequately
powered computer to avoid having to use ASIO direct monitoring. A decent
dual core CPU will allow you to track at 3ms latency very reliably. Most
people don't even notice any latency at all with 3ms. If you're going for
a bit tighter situation, then I'd recommend a quad if you're going to be
doing large track counts or using VST FX on input channels.
As for the summing situation, it's easier with Paris. It's more flexible
with Cubase........unlimited options for manipulating audio very easily.
It just depends on what your needs are.
Here's a link to a 256k MP3 of a punkabilly band I'm mixing here to give
you an example of a mix with the Duende happening. I used it a bit on the
drums and bass to give 'em a little thump. It's got an interesting set of
processors and takes a while to learn.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/eith4mmzgye/BILLY.mp3
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