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Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102035] Sat, 10 January 2009 14:36 Go to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html

Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait and
a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff always
irritates me!

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html

Jan 24, 07
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html

http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102036 is a reply to message #102035] Sat, 10 January 2009 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.

Rich

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:496914f0$1@linux...
>
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>
> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait and
> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
> always
> irritates me!
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>
> Jan 24, 07
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>
> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102040 is a reply to message #102035] Sat, 10 January 2009 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Something for you giging key players.

http://www.infiniteresponse.com/



"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>
>Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait and
>a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
always
>irritates me!
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>
>Jan 24, 07
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>
> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102041 is a reply to message #102036] Sun, 11 January 2009 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.

Bottom line - they don't work

For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to treat
your mixing room properly or at least make a great start

just my $0.02 CAD



"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:496939e3$1@linux...
> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>
> Rich
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>
>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>> and
>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
>> always
>> irritates me!
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>
>> Jan 24, 07
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>
>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102042 is a reply to message #102041] Sun, 11 January 2009 06:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert is currently offline  Robert   CANADA
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Amen Don, after years of chasing the "Magic box" I spent $300.00 on some
Fibrex insulation, fabric, wood frame and staples and a weekend's work.
Built 16 - 2' x 4' x 4" panels, hung em mostly in the corners of my
tracking and mixing rooms. Huge difference in the low end, much tighter and
defined, less muddy. The best $300.00 I ever spent in the studio.

Rob
Another $0.02 CAD


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>
> Bottom line - they don't work
>
> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>
> just my $0.02 CAD
>
>
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>
>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>>> and
>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
>>> always
>>> irritates me!
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>
>>> Jan 24, 07
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>
>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102043 is a reply to message #102041] Sun, 11 January 2009 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Don, the way the company describes the technology, you'd think this was
superior to all the other products. Shit I'm so gullible, thought I'd found
the magic bullet for my home, less than acoustically perfect studio. The
best part of the video was that the space where the beer fridge was located
made no difference at all. Mnnnn... my calculous says that drinking always
makes things sound better.

Rich

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>
> Bottom line - they don't work
>
> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>
> just my $0.02 CAD
>
>
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>
>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>>> and
>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
>>> always
>>> irritates me!
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>
>>> Jan 24, 07
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>
>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102044 is a reply to message #102042] Sun, 11 January 2009 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are some
problems. Not sure where to start.

Rich

"Rob_A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:496a0359@linux...
> Amen Don, after years of chasing the "Magic box" I spent $300.00 on some
> Fibrex insulation, fabric, wood frame and staples and a weekend's work.
> Built 16 - 2' x 4' x 4" panels, hung em mostly in the corners of my
> tracking and mixing rooms. Huge difference in the low end, much tighter
> and defined, less muddy. The best $300.00 I ever spent in the studio.
>
> Rob
> Another $0.02 CAD
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
>> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>>
>> Bottom line - they don't work
>>
>> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
>> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>>
>> just my $0.02 CAD
>>
>>
>>
>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>>
>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>>
>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>>
>>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>>>> and
>>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
>>>> always
>>>> irritates me!
>>>>
>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>>
>>>> Jan 24, 07
>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>>
>>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>>
>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102046 is a reply to message #102041] Sun, 11 January 2009 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, you SO nailed my thoughts on this one.

- Kerry (who is in the process of building *real* acoustic conditioning in
his room this month).



On 1/11/09 3:59 AM, in article 4969e286@linux, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com>
wrote:

> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>
> Bottom line - they don't work
>
> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to treat
> your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>
> just my $0.02 CAD
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102047 is a reply to message #102044] Sun, 11 January 2009 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
can be done cheap and still look great.

Here's a couple of angles for you:

http://www.atsacoustics.com/

Mo' spendy side:

http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
105.html

Mo' cheaper side:

http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html

I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with sonic
benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D

- K

Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.


On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are some
> problems. Not sure where to start.
>
> Rich


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102048 is a reply to message #102047] Sun, 11 January 2009 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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A bit more on the SuperChunks etc

http://www.runet.edu/~shelm/acoustics/bass-traps.html

- K

On 1/11/09 11:04 AM, in article C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com, "Kerry
Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:

> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
> can be done cheap and still look great.
>
> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>
> Mo' spendy side:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
> 105.html
>
> Mo' cheaper side:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>
> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with sonic
> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>
> - K
>
> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>
>
> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are some
>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>
>> Rich
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102049 is a reply to message #102044] Sun, 11 January 2009 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Here's another take:

http://forum.studiotips.com/viewtopic.php?t=535

- K


On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are some
> problems. Not sure where to start.
>
> Rich
>
> "Rob_A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:496a0359@linux...
>> Amen Don, after years of chasing the "Magic box" I spent $300.00 on some
>> Fibrex insulation, fabric, wood frame and staples and a weekend's work.
>> Built 16 - 2' x 4' x 4" panels, hung em mostly in the corners of my
>> tracking and mixing rooms. Huge difference in the low end, much tighter
>> and defined, less muddy. The best $300.00 I ever spent in the studio.
>>
>> Rob
>> Another $0.02 CAD
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
>>> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>>> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>>>
>>> Bottom line - they don't work
>>>
>>> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
>>> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>>>
>>> just my $0.02 CAD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>>>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction
>>>>> -System.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti
>>>>> -Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-
>>>>> Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>>>>> and
>>>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
>>>>> always
>>>>> irritates me!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercon
>>>>> trol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan 24, 07
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.ht
>>>>> ml
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http:/
>>>>> /www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_MasterControl_01_W-N AMM-07
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liqu
>>>>> id-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102051 is a reply to message #102041] Sun, 11 January 2009 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Don I agree, your right, I also believe a good analyzer like the SMART system
can certainly help adjust a room for better acoustics and speaker placement,
etc. I think it would still be interesting to see if you could get your
local dealer to rent you the KRK magic box to see if it helps at all. It'd
be nice to try before you buy, if it actually improved you mixes it might
be worth the money. In the end your right, no box is going to fix bad acoustics.
Good advice, start with the room treatment first.

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>
>Bottom line - they don't work
>
>For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to treat

>your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>
>just my $0.02 CAD
>
>
>
>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:496939e3$1@linux...
>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>
>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait

>>> and
>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff

>>> always
>>> irritates me!
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>
>>> Jan 24, 07
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>
>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102052 is a reply to message #102041] Sun, 11 January 2009 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Don I agree, your right, I also believe a good analyzer like the SMART system
can certainly help adjust a room for better acoustics and speaker placement,
etc. I think it would still be interesting to see if you could get your
local dealer to rent you the KRK magic box to see if it helps at all. It'd
be nice to try before you buy, if it actually improved you mixes it might
be worth the money. In the end your right, no box is going to fix bad acoustics.
Good advice, spend the money on room treatment first.

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>
>Bottom line - they don't work
>
>For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to treat

>your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>
>just my $0.02 CAD
>
>
>
>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:496939e3$1@linux...
>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>
>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait

>>> and
>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff

>>> always
>>> irritates me!
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>
>>> Jan 24, 07
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>
>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>
>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102053 is a reply to message #102044] Sun, 11 January 2009 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner of
the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly. Add
some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points) between
you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.

You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)

Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will help
you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have

Just a couple more $0.02 CAD



"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:496a3828@linux...
> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
> some problems. Not sure where to start.
>
> Rich
>
> "Rob_A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:496a0359@linux...
>> Amen Don, after years of chasing the "Magic box" I spent $300.00 on some
>> Fibrex insulation, fabric, wood frame and staples and a weekend's work.
>> Built 16 - 2' x 4' x 4" panels, hung em mostly in the corners of my
>> tracking and mixing rooms. Huge difference in the low end, much tighter
>> and defined, less muddy. The best $300.00 I ever spent in the studio.
>>
>> Rob
>> Another $0.02 CAD
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
>>> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>>> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>>>
>>> Bottom line - they don't work
>>>
>>> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
>>> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>>>
>>> just my $0.02 CAD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>>>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>>>>> and
>>>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait
>>>>> stuff always
>>>>> irritates me!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan 24, 07
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102058 is a reply to message #102053] Sun, 11 January 2009 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.

On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com>
wrote:

> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner of
> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly. Add
> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points) between
> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>
> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>
> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will help
> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>
> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102059 is a reply to message #102058] Mon, 12 January 2009 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.

I used Rovus RXL 40 - about the same price as OC...almost identical acoustic
specs according to Bob Gold's web site


>
> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
> <dnafe@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner
>> of
>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly.
>> Add
>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>> between
>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>>
>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>
>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>> help
>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>
>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102065 is a reply to message #102058] Mon, 12 January 2009 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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Thanks for the tip... where do you source it?

David.

Kerry Galloway wrote:
> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>
> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner of
>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly. Add
>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points) between
>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>>
>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>
>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will help
>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>
>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102068 is a reply to message #102059] Mon, 12 January 2009 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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sorry that should have read Roxul RXL 40

no sleep will make you type funny

hehe


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:496b2fd2@linux...
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
>> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>
> I used Rovus RXL 40 - about the same price as OC...almost identical
> acoustic specs according to Bob Gold's web site
>
>
>>
>> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
>> <dnafe@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
>>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner
>>> of
>>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly.
>>> Add
>>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>>> between
>>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>>>
>>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them
>>> on
>>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
>>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>>
>>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>>> help
>>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>>
>>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102069 is a reply to message #102047] Mon, 12 January 2009 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Light and heavy carpentry, Kerry. I've got so many power tools that I could
start my own contracting business. Thanks for the info. Looks like I'll be
doing a little interior decorating.

Rich

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
> can be done cheap and still look great.
>
> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>
> Mo' spendy side:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
> 105.html
>
> Mo' cheaper side:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>
> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with
> sonic
> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>
> - K
>
> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>
>
> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
>> some
>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>
>> Rich
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102070 is a reply to message #102058] Mon, 12 January 2009 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Kerry, Don, have you ever heard of, or used a product called SafeNSound,
doesn't appear too rigid? Looks like Roxul AFB Mineral Wool is not rigid
either and will collapse, whereas Owens Corning 703 is rigid. Hey, just want
to say thanks to everyone for all of your great advice and suggestions.

Rich

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>
> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
> <dnafe@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner
>> of
>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly.
>> Add
>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>> between
>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>>
>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>
>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>> help
>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>
>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102071 is a reply to message #102070] Mon, 12 January 2009 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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Safe N Sound and AFB are very similar with respect to sag... great for
building studio walls, but a bit of a pain for building treatment.

David.

Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Kerry, Don, have you ever heard of, or used a product called SafeNSound,
> doesn't appear too rigid? Looks like Roxul AFB Mineral Wool is not rigid
> either and will collapse, whereas Owens Corning 703 is rigid. Hey, just want
> to say thanks to everyone for all of your great advice and suggestions.
>
> Rich
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
>> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>>
>> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
>> <dnafe@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
>>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner
>>> of
>>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly.
>>> Add
>>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>>> between
>>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>>>
>>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
>>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
>>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>>
>>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>>> help
>>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>>
>>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102073 is a reply to message #102069] Tue, 13 January 2009 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:38:03 -0500, "Very Deep Productions"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

>Light and heavy carpentry, Kerry. I've got so many power tools that I could
>start my own contracting business.
this might not be the right time to get into the construction
industry. ;o)


Thanks for the info. Looks like I'll be
>doing a little interior decorating.
>
>Rich
>
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
>> can be done cheap and still look great.
>>
>> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>>
>> Mo' spendy side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
>> 105.html
>>
>> Mo' cheaper side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>>
>> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with
>> sonic
>> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
>> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>>
>> - K
>>
>> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
>>> some
>>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102074 is a reply to message #102071] Tue, 13 January 2009 03:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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I'm familiar with safe'n'sound...not the same stuff at all.

Roxul RXL 40 is what you're after if you want close to the OC 703 specs

6 - 3" thick batts per package roughly $50 CAD


"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:496c0b4b@linux...
> Safe N Sound and AFB are very similar with respect to sag... great for
> building studio walls, but a bit of a pain for building treatment.
>
> David.
>
> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>> Kerry, Don, have you ever heard of, or used a product called SafeNSound,
>> doesn't appear too rigid? Looks like Roxul AFB Mineral Wool is not rigid
>> either and will collapse, whereas Owens Corning 703 is rigid. Hey, just
>> want to say thanks to everyone for all of your great advice and
>> suggestions.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
>>> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
>>> <dnafe@rogers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts
>>>> minimum)
>>>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each
>>>> corner of
>>>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up
>>>> significantly. Add
>>>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>>>> between
>>>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some
>>>> clairity.
>>>>
>>>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them
>>>> on
>>>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way
>>>> the
>>>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>>>
>>>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>>>> help
>>>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>>>
>>>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102075 is a reply to message #102070] Tue, 13 January 2009 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did my "between the studs" studio soundproofing in SafeNSound. It's
residential soundproofing insulation, and at $36 a bale it's great stuff at
a killer price. It's designed to friction fit between studs, and would be
pretty floppy for wall covering unless you framed it.

Rockboard is a better choice for the panels - it's a rigid product with very
similar characteristics to 703. It's not all that easy to source but a
contractor buddy found it for me at a place called Crossroads C & I in
Burnaby, BC.

- Kerry




On 1/12/09 6:22 PM, in article 496bfe39@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

> Kerry, Don, have you ever heard of, or used a product called SafeNSound,
> doesn't appear too rigid? Looks like Roxul AFB Mineral Wool is not rigid
> either and will collapse, whereas Owens Corning 703 is rigid. Hey, just want
> to say thanks to everyone for all of your great advice and suggestions.
>
> Rich
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
>> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>>
>> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
>> <dnafe@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts minimum)
>>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each corner
>>> of
>>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up significantly.
>>> Add
>>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>>> between
>>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some clairity.
>>>
>>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them on
>>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way the
>>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>>
>>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>>> help
>>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>>
>>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>>
>
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102076 is a reply to message #102075] Tue, 13 January 2009 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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Roxul RXL 40 can usually be found at non big box building supply stores

Go to a commercial construction site and ask them where they get their
insulation

Don



"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C591F422.D2D3%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>I did my "between the studs" studio soundproofing in SafeNSound. It's
> residential soundproofing insulation, and at $36 a bale it's great stuff
> at
> a killer price. It's designed to friction fit between studs, and would be
> pretty floppy for wall covering unless you framed it.
>
> Rockboard is a better choice for the panels - it's a rigid product with
> very
> similar characteristics to 703. It's not all that easy to source but a
> contractor buddy found it for me at a place called Crossroads C & I in
> Burnaby, BC.
>
> - Kerry
>
>
>
>
> On 1/12/09 6:22 PM, in article 496bfe39@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Kerry, Don, have you ever heard of, or used a product called SafeNSound,
>> doesn't appear too rigid? Looks like Roxul AFB Mineral Wool is not rigid
>> either and will collapse, whereas Owens Corning 703 is rigid. Hey, just
>> want
>> to say thanks to everyone for all of your great advice and suggestions.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C5901213.D2C4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> One addition - for Canadians, grab Roxul Rockboard 60 instead of OC 703.
>>> Even better acoustically, a fraction of the price.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/09 2:43 PM, in article 496a79a3@linux, "Don Nafe"
>>> <dnafe@rogers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As Kerry said if your handy grab some 3" thick OC 703, (8 batts
>>>> minimum)
>>>> wrap them in some nice fabric and stack a pair end on end in each
>>>> corner
>>>> of
>>>> the room...dollars to donuts your low end will tighten up
>>>> significantly.
>>>> Add
>>>> some more along the walls (at the first mirror reflection points)
>>>> between
>>>> you and your speakers and your stereo imaging should gain some
>>>> clairity.
>>>>
>>>> You can use frames, base stands (like Deej) wall mount them, set them
>>>> on
>>>> milk crates for height do what ever looks good to you but either way
>>>> the
>>>> more you add the better the room will sound (up to a point)
>>>>
>>>> Shooting your room with ETF or other similar diagnostic programs will
>>>> help
>>>> you ascretain what's going on in your room and is handy to have
>>>>
>>>> Just a couple more $0.02 CAD
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102079 is a reply to message #102044] Tue, 13 January 2009 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert is currently offline  Robert   CANADA
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Rich, the place I started is here http://www.ethanwiner.com/
Ethan is like a walking encyclopedia on "sound treatment on a budget". He is
very active in many sound forums always willing to share his knowledge. He
sells pro treatment but has plans on his site to "build your own" either
broad band or tuned absorption treatment.
Good luck and believe me "it is worth every penny you put into it".

Rob

"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:496a3828@linux...
> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
> some problems. Not sure where to start.
>
> Rich
>
> "Rob_A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:496a0359@linux...
>> Amen Don, after years of chasing the "Magic box" I spent $300.00 on some
>> Fibrex insulation, fabric, wood frame and staples and a weekend's work.
>> Built 16 - 2' x 4' x 4" panels, hung em mostly in the corners of my
>> tracking and mixing rooms. Huge difference in the low end, much tighter
>> and defined, less muddy. The best $300.00 I ever spent in the studio.
>>
>> Rob
>> Another $0.02 CAD
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
>>> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>>> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>>>
>>> Bottom line - they don't work
>>>
>>> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
>>> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>>>
>>> just my $0.02 CAD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>>>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
>>>>> and
>>>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait
>>>>> stuff always
>>>>> irritates me!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan 24, 07
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>>>
>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102080 is a reply to message #102044] Tue, 13 January 2009 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You could create an acoustic cloud over your mix position (I am assuming
we are talking control room) and trim the outside of the cloud with the
same profile and color crown. You can then also install some lighting at
the back of the cloud that will reflect off of the surrounding ceiling
giving a nice indirect light glow around the cloud. The bottom of the
cloud can be faced in a material that matches the decor.

The same face material can be used to cover side and rear treatments.
Trimming out the panels in a complimentary wood profile will make them
look like they belong with the room.

David.

Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are some
> problems. Not sure where to start.
>
> Rich
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102082 is a reply to message #102080] Tue, 13 January 2009 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:496d17c6$1@linux...
> You could create an acoustic cloud over your mix position (I am assuming
> we are talking control room) and trim the outside of the cloud with the
> same profile and color crown. You can then also install some lighting at
> the back of the cloud that will reflect off of the surrounding ceiling
> giving a nice indirect light glow around the cloud. The bottom of the
> cloud can be faced in a material that matches the decor.
>
> The same face material can be used to cover side and rear treatments.
> Trimming out the panels in a complimentary wood profile will make them
> look like they belong with the room.
>
> David.


that's essentially what I did less the ambient lighting
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102089 is a reply to message #102080] Tue, 13 January 2009 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> You can then also install some lighting at
> the back of the cloud that will reflect off of the surrounding ceiling
> giving a nice indirect light glow around the cloud. The bottom of the
> cloud can be faced in a material that matches the decor.

OK, I am *so* stealing that idea.

- K


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102090 is a reply to message #102089] Tue, 13 January 2009 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On that note... has anyone tried some LED lighting in the studio yet?
Any adverse effects to audio/power?

AA


"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C592D507.D2E8%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> You can then also install some lighting at
>> the back of the cloud that will reflect off of the surrounding ceiling
>> giving a nice indirect light glow around the cloud. The bottom of the
>> cloud can be faced in a material that matches the decor.
>
> OK, I am *so* stealing that idea.
>
> - K
>
More cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102094 is a reply to message #102040] Wed, 14 January 2009 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Speaking of room acoustics... And you get that high quality Behringer mic
with the package!!!

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Auralex/PR/I n-Store-Room-Analysis-Kit.html

This is cool.
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/RadialEngine ering/PR/Radial-Lunch-Box-Series-Modules.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/DangerousMus ic/PR/Dangerous-Music-DAC-SR-Surround-Converter.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AllenHeath/P R/Allen-Heath-Compact-Digital-Mixing-System.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioTechnic a/PR/Audio-Technica-ATH-M35-Stereo-Monitor-Headphones.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/PetesPlaceAu dio/PR/Pete-s-Place-Audio-BAC-500-Module.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Celemony/PR/ Celemony-Melodyne-Editor-with-DNA.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Sennheiser/P R/Sennheiser-Audiophile-HD-800-Headphones.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Sennheiser/P R/Sennheiser-Pro-Ear-Canal-IE-Headphone-Series.html

I wonder how these will sound???
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Focusrite/PR /Focusrite-VST-AU-plug-in-Guitar-FX-.html

Now why couldn't they throw 16 mic pres on this baby and sell me one for
around three grand?
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/SolidStateLo gic/PR/Solid-State-Logic-Matrix-Studio-Console-.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/ImmersiveMed iaResearch/PR/Immersive-Media-Research-Vortex.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/McDSP/PR/McD SP-Retro-Pack-Bundle.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/TRXCymbalCom pany/PR/TRX-BRT-Series-Cymbals.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Redmatica/PR /Redmatica-Creative-Sampling-Suite.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/RapcoHorizon /PR/Rapcohorizon-Winter-NAMM-2009.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/ProTonePedal s/PR/Pro-Tone-Pedals-Rusty-Cooley-Overdrive-Pedal.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Akai/PR/Akai -Pro-MPK49-Keyboard-Controller.html

http://hybridmic.adkmic.com/

http://www.realios.com/

NAMM special
http://www.abbeyroadplugins.com/

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Primacoustic /PR/Primacoustic-RX5-Up-Fire-Isolation-Platform.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Primacoustic /PR/Primacoustic-FlexiBooth.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Primacoustic /PR/Primacoustic-GoTrap-Stackable-Gobo-and-Bass-Trap.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Primacoustic /PR/Primacoustic-Machine-Room-Computer-Silencer.html

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/JZMicrophone s/PR/JZ-Microphones-Microphone-BT-201.html

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/01/13/vintage-tube-disto rtion-plug-in-now-available/

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/MixosaurusDA WDrumsGmbH/PR/MIXOSAURUS-DAW-Drums-KIT-B-.html


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Something for you giging key players.
>
>http://www.infiniteresponse.com/
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>
>>Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year wait
and
>>a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait stuff
>always
>>irritates me!
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>
>>Jan 24, 07
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>
>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>
>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102100 is a reply to message #102090] Wed, 14 January 2009 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, but now you've mentioned it, it's caught my interest - I'm about to
tackle lighting the space this month. Is it commonly available in places
like Home Depot yet, or is it specialty stuff?

- K


On 1/13/09 11:37 PM, in article 496d999c$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

> On that note... has anyone tried some LED lighting in the studio yet?
> Any adverse effects to audio/power?
>
> AA


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102110 is a reply to message #102100] Wed, 14 January 2009 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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I was thinking roll my own, using stage lighting parts/pieces. Maybe even a
DMX512 controller. Wouldn't that be sweet?

AA


"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C5938978.D2F5%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> No, but now you've mentioned it, it's caught my interest - I'm about to
> tackle lighting the space this month. Is it commonly available in places
> like Home Depot yet, or is it specialty stuff?
>
> - K
>
>
> On 1/13/09 11:37 PM, in article 496d999c$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> On that note... has anyone tried some LED lighting in the studio yet?
>> Any adverse effects to audio/power?
>>
>> AA
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102111 is a reply to message #102110] Wed, 14 January 2009 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That'd be the way to go - I was pricing the consumer versions today. Yikes,
$140 for a table lamp. No thankee.

- K


On 1/14/09 4:58 PM, in article 496e8d88@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

> I was thinking roll my own, using stage lighting parts/pieces. Maybe even a
> DMX512 controller. Wouldn't that be sweet?
>
> AA


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102112 is a reply to message #102110] Wed, 14 January 2009 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Aaron Allen wrote:
> I was thinking roll my own, using stage lighting parts/pieces. Maybe even a
> DMX512 controller. Wouldn't that be sweet?

That would be cool, Aaron. I've been contemplating that, too. In the
mean time I picked up an LED color changing light designed for
video/film location lighting and it also makes a handy mood light in the
studio.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> AA
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C5938978.D2F5%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> No, but now you've mentioned it, it's caught my interest - I'm about to
>> tackle lighting the space this month. Is it commonly available in places
>> like Home Depot yet, or is it specialty stuff?
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 1/13/09 11:37 PM, in article 496d999c$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
>> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>> On that note... has anyone tried some LED lighting in the studio yet?
>>> Any adverse effects to audio/power?
>>>
>>> AA
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102148 is a reply to message #102079] Fri, 16 January 2009 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Rob I found this article on his website, very helpful. Thanks.

http://www.ethanwiner.com/basstrap.html

"Rob_A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:496d156e$1@linux...
> Rich, the place I started is here http://www.ethanwiner.com/
> Ethan is like a walking encyclopedia on "sound treatment on a budget". He
> is very active in many sound forums always willing to share his knowledge.
> He sells pro treatment but has plans on his site to "build your own"
> either broad band or tuned absorption treatment.
> Good luck and believe me "it is worth every penny you put into it".
>
> Rob
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:496a3828@linux...
>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
>> some problems. Not sure where to start.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Rob_A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:496a0359@linux...
>>> Amen Don, after years of chasing the "Magic box" I spent $300.00 on some
>>> Fibrex insulation, fabric, wood frame and staples and a weekend's work.
>>> Built 16 - 2' x 4' x 4" panels, hung em mostly in the corners of my
>>> tracking and mixing rooms. Huge difference in the low end, much tighter
>>> and defined, less muddy. The best $300.00 I ever spent in the studio.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>> Another $0.02 CAD
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:4969e286@linux...
>>>> This just seems like another product in the long line of products that
>>>> claims to be the "magic box solution" to shitty acoustics.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line - they don't work
>>>>
>>>> For what you'd spend on this toy you can buy the materials you need to
>>>> treat your mixing room properly or at least make a great start
>>>>
>>>> just my $0.02 CAD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:496939e3$1@linux...
>>>>> Wow, that ERGO thingie is very cool. I'm gonna get myself one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:496914f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2009/KRK-Systems-ERGO-R oom-Correction-System.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/BricastiDesi gn/PR/Bricasti-Model-10-Remote-.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/AudioImpress ions/PR/Audio-Impressions-FAR-XMG2.D-Active-Monitor-.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well Alesis finally gets it out the door, nothing like a two year
>>>>>> wait and
>>>>>> a price jump. This bate you in at a low price, and make you wait
>>>>>> stuff always
>>>>>> irritates me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/Alesis/PR/Al esis-Mastercontrol-Audio-Interface-And-Control-Surface.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan 24, 07
>>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Alesis/PR/Ma sterControl.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/video_popup/popup_theater. php?url=http://www.harmony-central.com/theater/Alesis_Master Control_01_W-NAMM-07
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM09/Content/LiquidMetalG uitars/PR/Liquid-Metal-Guitars-LMG-T-Guitar.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102150 is a reply to message #102047] Fri, 16 January 2009 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
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Kerry, I think I'm just going to purchase a few of these from Auralex, they
seem reasonable and look pretty neat. There's a weath of products from this
company, some of it pretty expensive though. What do you think?

http://www.auralex.com/bass_traps_lenrd/bass_traps_lenrd.asp

Rich

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
> can be done cheap and still look great.
>
> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>
> Mo' spendy side:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
> 105.html
>
> Mo' cheaper side:
>
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>
> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with
> sonic
> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>
> - K
>
> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>
>
> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
>> some
>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>
>> Rich
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102152 is a reply to message #102150] Fri, 16 January 2009 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm of mixed mind on those. They do work well, and they look pro. On the
other hand, they're far more expensive, they mainly suit 90 degree angle
corners (my space has more of an arched ceiling) and I don't particularly
*like* that look myself. I decided to go with built-ins, but it will come
down to your budget and tastes.

- K


On 1/16/09 4:34 AM, in article 4970823c@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

> Kerry, I think I'm just going to purchase a few of these from Auralex, they
> seem reasonable and look pretty neat. There's a weath of products from this
> company, some of it pretty expensive though. What do you think?
>
> http://www.auralex.com/bass_traps_lenrd/bass_traps_lenrd.asp
>
> Rich
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
>> can be done cheap and still look great.
>>
>> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>>
>> Mo' spendy side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
>> 105.html
>>
>> Mo' cheaper side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>>
>> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with
>> sonic
>> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
>> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>>
>> - K
>>
>> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
>>> some
>>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>
>


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Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102153 is a reply to message #102150] Fri, 16 January 2009 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Flanigan is currently offline  Gary Flanigan
Messages: 181
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
I have these in the corners of my room, and while they work pretty well, if
I had it to do over again I would instead install micro traps from Real Traps.




"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Kerry, I think I'm just going to purchase a few of these from Auralex, they

>seem reasonable and look pretty neat. There's a weath of products from this

>company, some of it pretty expensive though. What do you think?
>
> http://www.auralex.com/bass_traps_lenrd/bass_traps_lenrd.asp
>
>Rich
>
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
>> can be done cheap and still look great.
>>
>> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>>
>> Mo' spendy side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
>> 105.html
>>
>> Mo' cheaper side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>>
>> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with

>> sonic
>> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
>> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>>
>> - K
>>
>> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are

>>> some
>>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>
>
Re: Some cool stuff announced for NAMM [message #102154 is a reply to message #102150] Fri, 16 January 2009 10:31 Go to previous message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Real Traps if you're buying ready made

D


"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4970823c@linux...
> Kerry, I think I'm just going to purchase a few of these from Auralex,
> they seem reasonable and look pretty neat. There's a weath of products
> from this company, some of it pretty expensive though. What do you think?
>
> http://www.auralex.com/bass_traps_lenrd/bass_traps_lenrd.asp
>
> Rich
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C58F82BD.D2B4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Rich - are you reasonably "handy"? Can you do, say, light carpentry? This
>> can be done cheap and still look great.
>>
>> Here's a couple of angles for you:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/
>>
>> Mo' spendy side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Acoustic-Panels-with-De signer-Fabrics--
>> 105.html
>>
>> Mo' cheaper side:
>>
>> http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--DIY-Acoustic-Materials--102 .html
>>
>> I found presenting it to my "significant other" as "redecorating with
>> sonic
>> benefits" rather than "I gotta stick these things up" turned fierce
>> opposition into alliance, especially after I let her pick the fabric :D
>>
>> - K
>>
>> Also the "SuperChunk" bass absorbers are *well* worth checking out.
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/09 10:04 AM, in article 496a3828@linux, "Very Deep Productions"
>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob, so how do I treat my high ceilinged, plaser lath, victorian parlor,
>>> with crown mouldings and such, without it looking sucky, like it's jerry
>>> rigged? Actually the sound of the room is pretty decent, but there are
>>> some
>>> problems. Not sure where to start.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>
>
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