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| Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98797] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 19:03  |
Terry T
Messages: 32
Registered: February 2007
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Hey Guys,
As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the Surplus
store was in the area, because she was “Looking for her husband” (That would
be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that’s funny) So they began
to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the conversation
and said “I have one he can have. (Free)
So with all that said, will this work.
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
Man! what a find. I Think
If this will work:
1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
software? (Paris use only)
2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98799 is a reply to message #98797] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 19:40  |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
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> Hey Guys,
>
> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
> Surplus
> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
> would
> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
> began
> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
> conversation
> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>
> So with all that said, will this work.
>
> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>
> Man! what a find. I Think
>
> If this will work:
> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
> software? (Paris use only)
Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows XP
disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it, and
if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a CD,
DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean system
sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's free also
from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to the
internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature rich' on
the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows updates
pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the system.
Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at idle and
80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack 1 and no
internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power supply
was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that helps you
guage power requirements.
> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check with
the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's. Don't put
an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one next to it,
but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for running the
amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard drive for audio
data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or firewire (or COM
ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's onboard.
AA
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98800 is a reply to message #98799] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 19:43 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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musicxp isn't as easy to get at now... instead try this:
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:482cf696@linux...
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> "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
>> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
>> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
>> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
>> Surplus
>> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
>> would
>> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
>> began
>> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
>> conversation
>> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>>
>> So with all that said, will this work.
>>
>> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>>
>> Man! what a find. I Think
>>
>> If this will work:
>> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>> software? (Paris use only)
>
> Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows XP
> disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
> http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it,
> and if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
> However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
> up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a
> CD, DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean
> system sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's
> free also from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to
> the internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature
> rich' on the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows
> updates pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the
> system. Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at
> idle and 80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack
> 1 and no internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
> FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power
> supply was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that
> helps you guage power requirements.
>
>> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>
> It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
>
>> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
>
> Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
> disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check
> with the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's.
> Don't put an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one
> next to it, but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for
> running the amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard
> drive for audio data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or
> firewire (or COM ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's
> onboard.
>
> AA
>
>
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98801 is a reply to message #98799] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 20:20 |
Terry T
Messages: 32
Registered: February 2007
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Hey Aaron,
Thanks for the advice and no a disc did not come with it. I just brought
the Trend Micro Anti-virus plus Anti-spyware is this a good idea or not compared
to the one you recommend.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
>news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
>> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right
now
>> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
>> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
>> Surplus
>> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
>> would
>> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
>> began
>> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
>> conversation
>> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>>
>> So with all that said, will this work.
>>
>> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>>
>> Man! what a find. I Think
>>
>> If this will work:
>> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>> software? (Paris use only)
>
>Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows
XP
>disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
>http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it,
and
>if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
>However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
>up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a
CD,
>DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean system
>sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's free also
>from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to the
>internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature rich'
on
>the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows updates
>pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the system.
>Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at idle and
>80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack 1 and no
>internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
>FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power supply
>was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that helps you
>guage power requirements.
>
>> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>
>It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
>
>> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
>
>Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
>disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check with
>the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's. Don't put
>an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one next to
it,
>but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for running the
>amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard drive for audio
>data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or firewire (or COM
>ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's onboard.
>
>AA
>
>
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98802 is a reply to message #98801] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 21:01 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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Last I looked Trend was cool to use. They're been around a while.
AA
"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:482cfd99$1@linux...
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> Hey Aaron,
>
> Thanks for the advice and no a disc did not come with it. I just brought
> the Trend Micro Anti-virus plus Anti-spyware is this a good idea or not
> compared
> to the one you recommend.
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>>> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
>>> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right
> now
>>> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
>>> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
>
>>> Surplus
>>> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
>
>>> would
>>> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
>
>>> began
>>> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
>
>>> conversation
>>> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>>>
>>> So with all that said, will this work.
>>>
>>> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>>> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>>>
>>> Man! what a find. I Think
>>>
>>> If this will work:
>>> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>>> software? (Paris use only)
>>
>>Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows
> XP
>>disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
>>http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it,
> and
>>if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
>>However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
>
>>up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a
> CD,
>>DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean
>>system
>
>>sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's free also
>
>>from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to the
>>internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature rich'
> on
>>the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows updates
>>pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the system.
>>Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at idle and
>
>>80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack 1 and no
>
>>internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
>>FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power
>>supply
>
>>was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that helps you
>
>>guage power requirements.
>>
>>> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>>
>>It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
>>
>>> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
>>
>>Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
>
>>disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check
>>with
>
>>the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's. Don't put
>
>>an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one next to
> it,
>>but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for running the
>
>>amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard drive for audio
>
>>data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or firewire (or COM
>
>>ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's onboard.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98805 is a reply to message #98797] |
Fri, 16 May 2008 00:56 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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Hey Terry,
It could be a good idea to get a program like "Everest" by www.lavalys.com .
Then you can get all informations you need about your "new" XP computer,
what motherboard-type, what legal XP number, what kind of memory etc. etc.
etc.
I believe you also must change the powersupply. Get a 500-600 watts with a
big slowgoing lownoise fan, that can be used with that old board.
Erling
"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
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> Hey Guys,
>
> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
> Surplus
> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
> would
> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
> began
> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
> conversation
> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>
> So with all that said, will this work.
>
> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>
> Man! what a find. I Think
>
> If this will work:
> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
> software? (Paris use only)
> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98806 is a reply to message #98797] |
Fri, 16 May 2008 01:41 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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Senior Member |
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Well, this is interesting . . . I too have been running PARIS in Windows '98
on an old PII from the year 2000 or something, and I was also just given a
much newer computer with XP on in. I don't even know what's in it yet, cuz
I haven't fired it up or cracked it open, but the idea is to install our
other PARIS system in it. And I, too, am an RN, though not a travelling
one. I'll pay close attention to your responses, so I don't wind up asking
the same questions. :)
*SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT*
We're working on our second all PARIS CD album now on that same old beat up
computer, but in case anyone missed the first . . . it can be had at
www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm or www.cdbaby.com/sarahtonin or on iTunes and
a bunch of those other song downloading places.
CD #2 is called "Angel Food" and demo samples will soon be posted on our
site.
Thank you, and have a lovely tomorrow,
Sarah
"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
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> Hey Guys,
>
> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
> Surplus
> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
> would
> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
> began
> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
> conversation
> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>
> So with all that said, will this work.
>
> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>
> Man! what a find. I Think
>
> If this will work:
> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
> software? (Paris use only)
> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
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| Re: Mike or Aaron Will This Work? [message #98811 is a reply to message #98797] |
Fri, 16 May 2008 09:38 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
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Senior Member |
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Hi Terry,
This sounds like a really good PARIS machine. Here's what I would do:
Partition the drive and have Windows 98 and Windows XP installed. You'll
need the installation CDs for both. You also need to be mindful that Windows
98 requires a third party driver to access a hard drive larger than 120GB.
The Windows XP driver can still be tempermental. Keep 98 around just in
case.
Also, Windows XP requires at least 1.25 GB of Ram to work well for Audio.
The disk cache will try to cache your whole project up to 1 GB, forcing
program code into the swap file and bogging down the machine if you only
have 1 GB or less. It drove me nuts until I got more than 1 GB.
I hope thses suggestions are helpful!
Mike
"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Guys,
>
>As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
>she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
Surplus
>store was in the area, because she was “Looking for her husband” (That would
>be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that’s funny) So they
began
>to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
conversation
>and said “I have one he can have. (Free)
>
>So with all that said, will this work.
>
>AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>
>Man! what a find. I Think
>
>If this will work:
>1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>software? (Paris use only)
>2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
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