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| Classic Rock [message #87463] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 11:08  |
TCB
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Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices had
the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like that
in years.
- Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they made
most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney, Soundgarden,
and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't fit
the format.
- Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way he
played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to listen
to from that era.
- Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
- There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or Randy
Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A Feeling
by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
notes are unreadable.
- I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
- If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
Opinions?
TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87491 is a reply to message #87463] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 17:21  |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you on
one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder than
Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the local
stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex barely had a
chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it again.
Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's predictable . .
.. it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to music what McDonalds
is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft enough not to require much
chewing. The motto of the American consumer is "Please, Don't Make Me
Think!" (Politicians know this and use it continuously, but that's another
discussion)
Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly creative,
unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not so
interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's one
of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After the
success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost his
original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being an
entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice hung
out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went Hollywood." YAWN!
I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now things
have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's lots of
great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on the radio.
S
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>
> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices had
> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like that
> in years.
>
>
> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they made
> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
> Soundgarden,
> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't fit
> the format.
>
> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way he
> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
> listen
> to from that era.
>
> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>
> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
> Randy
> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
> Feeling
> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
> notes are unreadable.
>
> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>
> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>
> Opinions?
>
> TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87492 is a reply to message #87491] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 17:31 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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Ballad of Dwight Fry tops my all time 5 favs.
AA
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:468ae987$1@linux...
> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>
> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you on
> one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder than
> Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the local
> stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex barely had a
> chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it again.
> Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's predictable .
> . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to music what
> McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft enough not to
> require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer is "Please,
> Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it continuously, but
> that's another discussion)
>
> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>
> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>
> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>
> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's one
> of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>
> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
> listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After
> the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost his
> original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being an
> entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice
> hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went Hollywood."
> YAWN!
>
> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now things
> have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's lots of
> great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on the radio.
>
> S
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>
>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>> had
>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like that
>> in years.
>>
>>
>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>> made
>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>> Soundgarden,
>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't fit
>> the format.
>>
>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>> he
>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>> listen
>> to from that era.
>>
>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>
>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>> Randy
>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>> Feeling
>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>> notes are unreadable.
>>
>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>
>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87502 is a reply to message #87491] |
Mon, 02 July 2007 19:51 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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The best Steve Miller album, IMO, was his LP called Sailor when Boz skaggs
was a member of the band. I think my favorite Steve Miller song is Dime A
Dance Romance and that was written by Boz Skaggs. The words are pretty
unintelligible, but there is enough nuance in them to paint an alluring
mental image of a debauch in a waterfront bar....sort of a Louie Louie
kinda' thing. There were also a couple of rockers on some other albums of
that era..one song called Steppin Stone and another that I can't remember.
Fly like an Eagle???.....the only great thing about that album, IMO, was
that it was recorded in his garage on a TEAC 80-80 (or so the legend goes).
The Joker was a joke..........bleecccchhh!!!!!
As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at the
time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
I'm gonna go down to a bar here in Durango called Scootin' blues tonight.
The town is full of a bunch of middle aged white guys and gals (damn!!!..I
just can't quit sayin' "gals", can I?) who are dressed in leathers and are
pretending to be real bikers. It's sooooo funny to watch them try to look
cool and hip and strut their stuff. Maybe the band will cover some Boston
tunes. Nothin funnier than watching old white people dance.
;o)
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:468ae987$1@linux...
> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>
> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you on
> one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder than
> Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the local
> stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex barely had a
> chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it again.
> Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's predictable .
> . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to music what
> McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft enough not to
> require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer is "Please,
> Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it continuously, but
> that's another discussion)
>
> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>
> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>
> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>
> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's one
> of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>
> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
> listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After
> the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost his
> original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being an
> entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice
> hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went Hollywood."
> YAWN!
>
> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now things
> have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's lots of
> great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on the radio.
>
> S
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>
>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>> had
>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like that
>> in years.
>>
>>
>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>> made
>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>> Soundgarden,
>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't fit
>> the format.
>>
>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>> he
>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>> listen
>> to from that era.
>>
>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>
>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>> Randy
>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>> Feeling
>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>> notes are unreadable.
>>
>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>
>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87509 is a reply to message #87492] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 20:28 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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Oh yeah, that song has one of the best crazy twisted guitar solos ever.
I gotta get outa here . . . I've . . . got . . . to . . . get . . . OUT . .
.. of . . . here!
Good stuff. :)
S
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:468aebe7$1@linux...
> Ballad of Dwight Fry tops my all time 5 favs.
> AA
>
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> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>
>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>
>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>
>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
>> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
>> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>
>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>
>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>
>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
>> listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After
>> the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost his
>> original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being an
>> entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice
>> hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>
>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>> lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>> the radio.
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>> had
>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>> that
>>> in years.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>> made
>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>> Soundgarden,
>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>> fit
>>> the format.
>>>
>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>>> he
>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>> listen
>>> to from that era.
>>>
>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>
>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>>> Randy
>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>> Feeling
>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>
>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>
>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87510 is a reply to message #87502] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 20:32 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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Love Little Feat, especially the "Sailin' Shoes" album. The song "Willin' "
alone has got me through some tough moments.
S
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:468b0c88@linux...
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> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at the
> time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>
>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>
>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>
>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
>> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
>> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>
>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>
>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>
>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
>> listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After
>> the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost his
>> original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being an
>> entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice
>> hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>
>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>> lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>> the radio.
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>> had
>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>> that
>>> in years.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>> made
>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>> Soundgarden,
>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>> fit
>>> the format.
>>>
>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>>> he
>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>> listen
>>> to from that era.
>>>
>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>
>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>>> Randy
>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>> Feeling
>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>
>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>
>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87515 is a reply to message #87510] |
Mon, 02 July 2007 23:13 |
DJ
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One of my all time favorite bands live, as well. Those guys could rock the
house/arena/earth. I was devastated when Lowell died. You know how some
people are diehard Deadheads????..........I was a Feathead.
;o)
;o)
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:468b1652@linux...
> Love Little Feat, especially the "Sailin' Shoes" album. The song "Willin'
> " alone has got me through some tough moments.
>
> S
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:468b0c88@linux...
>>
>> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>> the time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>
>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>
>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>>> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>>> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>>
>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
>>> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
>>> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>
>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>
>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I
>>> still listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion.
>>> After the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice
>>> lost his original band and with them a lot of important creative input.
>>> Being an entertainer became way more important than making good music,
>>> so Alice hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>
>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>>> lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>>> the radio.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>> had
>>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>> that
>>>> in years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
>>>> the
>>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>> made
>>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>> Soundgarden,
>>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>> fit
>>>> the format.
>>>>
>>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
>>>> also
>>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>>>> he
>>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>> listen
>>>> to from that era.
>>>>
>>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>
>>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>>>> Randy
>>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>> Feeling
>>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
>>>> the
>>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>>
>>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>
>>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We
>>>> didn't
>>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87520 is a reply to message #87512] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 03:35 |
John
Messages: 39
Registered: May 2006
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I'm 47 and still don't know what a cracker is but I love Boston, Queen,
ZZTop, The Outfield, Air Supply, Led Zeppelin, Rush, AC/DC and Shania.
I must be one...hehe
DC wrote:
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>
>> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>
>> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at the
>
>> time.
>
> Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some solid
> writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny, cuz
> I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
> (M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>
> About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>
> DC
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87521 is a reply to message #87510] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 03:36 |
John
Messages: 39
Registered: May 2006
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I have a great tab for willin if you want it. Love that song.
Sarah wrote:
> Love Little Feat, especially the "Sailin' Shoes" album. The song "Willin' "
> alone has got me through some tough moments.
>
> S
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:468b0c88@linux...
>> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at the
>> time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>
>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>
>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>>> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>>> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>>
>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
>>> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
>>> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>
>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>
>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
>>> listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After
>>> the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost his
>>> original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being an
>>> entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice
>>> hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>
>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>>> lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>>> the radio.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>> had
>>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>> that
>>>> in years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>> made
>>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>> Soundgarden,
>>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>> fit
>>>> the format.
>>>>
>>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>>>> he
>>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>> listen
>>>> to from that era.
>>>>
>>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>
>>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>>>> Randy
>>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>> Feeling
>>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>>
>>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>
>>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87529 is a reply to message #87510] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 07:31 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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I occasionally play percussion in an "unplugged" kind of group that plays
Willin. I always love to play that song.
Rod
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Love Little Feat, especially the "Sailin' Shoes" album. The song "Willin'
"
>alone has got me through some tough moments.
>
>S
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>news:468b0c88@linux...
>>
>> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
the
>> time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>
>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>
>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>>> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>>> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>>
>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my
top
>>> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . .
not
>>> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>
>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>
>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I still
>>> listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion. After
>>> the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice lost
his
>>> original band and with them a lot of important creative input. Being
an
>>> entertainer became way more important than making good music, so Alice
>>> hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>
>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>>> lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>>> the radio.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>> had
>>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>> that
>>>> in years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
the
>>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>> made
>>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>> Soundgarden,
>>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>> fit
>>>> the format.
>>>>
>>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
also
>>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the
way
>>>> he
>>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>> listen
>>>> to from that era.
>>>>
>>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>
>>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines
or
>>>> Randy
>>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than
A
>>>> Feeling
>>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
the
>>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>>
>>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>
>>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87533 is a reply to message #87515] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 07:51 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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DJ... you're a day behind... try to keep up man!! ;-)
(check your clock)
David.
Happy 4th to our Southern neighbors!
DJ wrote:
> One of my all time favorite bands live, as well. Those guys could rock the
> house/arena/earth. I was devastated when Lowell died. You know how some
> people are diehard Deadheads????..........I was a Feathead.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
> ;o)
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:468b1652@linux...
>
>>Love Little Feat, especially the "Sailin' Shoes" album. The song "Willin'
>>" alone has got me through some tough moments.
>>
>>S
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>>news:468b0c88@linux...
>>
>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>>>the time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>>>news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>>
>>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>>>on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>>>>than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>>>>local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>>>>barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>>>>again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>>>>predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>>>>music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>>>>enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>>>>is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>>>>continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>>
>>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>>>denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>>>>Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>>>>creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>>>
>>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
>>>>ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
>>>>so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>>>intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>>
>>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>>>themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>>>one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>>
>>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I
>>>>still listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion.
>>>>After the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice
>>>>lost his original band and with them a lot of important creative input.
>>>>Being an entertainer became way more important than making good music,
>>>>so Alice hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>>>>Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>>
>>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>>>Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>>>things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>>>>lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>>>>the radio.
>>>>
>>>>S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>>>had
>>>>>the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>>>that
>>>>>in years.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>- Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
>>>>>the
>>>>>90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>>>made
>>>>>most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>>>Soundgarden,
>>>>>and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>>>fit
>>>>>the format.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
>>>>>also
>>>>>tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>>>>>he
>>>>>played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>>>listen
>>>>>to from that era.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>>
>>>>>- There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>>>>>Randy
>>>>>Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>>>Feeling
>>>>>by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
>>>>>the
>>>>>notes are unreadable.
>>>>>
>>>>>- I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>>
>>>>>- If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We
>>>>>didn't
>>>>>used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>>
>>>>>Opinions?
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87537 is a reply to message #87509] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 09:22 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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Do you know how Alice recorded that vocal section?
(trivia time!)
AA
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:468b1550$1@linux...
> Oh yeah, that song has one of the best crazy twisted guitar solos ever.
>
> I gotta get outa here . . . I've . . . got . . . to . . . get . . . OUT .
> . . of . . . here!
>
> Good stuff. :)
>
> S
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:468aebe7$1@linux...
>> Ballad of Dwight Fry tops my all time 5 favs.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>
>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>
>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's Classic
>>> Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something truly
>>> creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the airwaves?
>>>
>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my top
>>> ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . . . not
>>> so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>
>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>
>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I
>>> still listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion.
>>> After the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice
>>> lost his original band and with them a lot of important creative input.
>>> Being an entertainer became way more important than making good music,
>>> so Alice hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>
>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff. There's
>>> lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much of it on
>>> the radio.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>> had
>>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>> that
>>>> in years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
>>>> the
>>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>> made
>>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>> Soundgarden,
>>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>> fit
>>>> the format.
>>>>
>>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
>>>> also
>>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
>>>> he
>>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>> listen
>>>> to from that era.
>>>>
>>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>
>>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
>>>> Randy
>>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>> Feeling
>>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
>>>> the
>>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>>
>>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>
>>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We
>>>> didn't
>>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87539 is a reply to message #87520] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 09:51 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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One of the best concerts I ever saw in my life was ZZ top in 1971 in the
football stadium at Stephen F. Austin University in Nacogdoches Texas. I was
flabbergasted. The only other time I had seen guitar playing like that had
been at a Hendrix concert back in the late summer of 1970, right before he
died.
Billy Gibbons can really play some incredible stuff. I really don't like
stylistic direction he and the band eventually took. By 1974, they weren't
innovative any more.it was all this "formula/Texas Hype" and it got got
really old and stupid. I was at their Barndance and Bar B Q concert in
Memorial Stadium in Austin in the summer of '74. 80,000 people sitting on
concrete bleachers and astroturf stoned and drunk out of their minds in the
middle of July with very limited water supplies and bags of Reddi Ice being
sold by the promoters for $10.00+ per. When the sun went down, people were
so crazed from the drugs and the heat that they started lighting fires on
the Astroturf. UT didn't allow another concert in that stadium for 25 years.
Bad Company (with Jimmy Paige sitting in) opened the concert, followed by
Santana. ZZ top showed up after that and they were just "loud" and mediocre
by comparison, eaaring these white Gene Autry costumes with oversized 20
gallon hats. I thought I was hallucinating......well....more than usual.
Santana, OTOH, just stole the show stole the show. I went out and bought
Borboletta the next day.
OK......rant off..
"John" <aint@itawful.com> wrote in message news:468b78de$1@linux...
> I'm 47 and still don't know what a cracker is but I love Boston, Queen,
> ZZTop, The Outfield, Air Supply, Led Zeppelin, Rush, AC/DC and Shania.
>
> I must be one...hehe
>
> DC wrote:
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>>
>>> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>>> the
>>
>>> time.
>>
>> Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
>> solid
>> writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny, cuz
>> I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>> (M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music
>> technology.
>>
>> About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>
>> DC
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87542 is a reply to message #87533] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 10:14 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
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Heheh!!!!..........well.......hmmmmm.........maybe I can turn back the clock
this way and my hair will grow back
;o)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:468bb548@linux...
> DJ... you're a day behind... try to keep up man!! ;-)
>
> (check your clock)
>
> David.
>
> Happy 4th to our Southern neighbors!
>
> DJ wrote:
>> One of my all time favorite bands live, as well. Those guys could rock
>> the house/arena/earth. I was devastated when Lowell died. You know how
>> some people are diehard Deadheads????..........I was a Feathead.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>> ;o)
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:468b1652@linux...
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>>>Love Little Feat, especially the "Sailin' Shoes" album. The song
>>>"Willin' " alone has got me through some tough moments.
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>>>news:468b0c88@linux...
>>>
>>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>>>>the time. I was a big Little Feat fan back then.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>>>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way
>>>>> louder than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73
>>>>> and the local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag
>>>>> reflex barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd
>>>>> play it again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . .
>>>>> it's predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It
>>>>> is to music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and
>>>>> soft enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American
>>>>> consumer is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and
>>>>> use it continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's
>>>>> Classic Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something
>>>>> truly creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the
>>>>> airwaves?
>>>>>
>>>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my
>>>>> top ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . .
>>>>> . not so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I
>>>>> still listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on
>>>>> occasion. After the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar
>>>>> Babies," Alice lost his original band and with them a lot of important
>>>>> creative input. Being an entertainer became way more important than
>>>>> making good music, so Alice hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed
>>>>> with Bob Hope and "went Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>>>
>>>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff.
>>>>> There's lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much
>>>>> of it on the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>>S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>in years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>>>>made
>>>>>>most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>>>>Soundgarden,
>>>>>>and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>>>>fit
>>>>>>the format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
>>>>>>also
>>>>>>tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the
>>>>>>way he
>>>>>>played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>>>>listen
>>>>>>to from that era.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines
>>>>>>or Randy
>>>>>>Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>>>>Feeling
>>>>>>by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>notes are unreadable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We
>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Opinions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Cracker = pejorative term for white people. As in 'He's such a cracker he
thinks James Brown was a running back and Bootsy Collins is a drink.'
Whether you are one or not, I defer to the famous Warren Buffet line, 'If
you sit down at the poker table and after 30 minutes don't know who the patsy
is, you're the patsy.'
;-)
TCB
John <aint@itawful.com> wrote:
>I'm 47 and still don't know what a cracker is but I love Boston, Queen,
>ZZTop, The Outfield, Air Supply, Led Zeppelin, Rush, AC/DC and Shania.
>
>I must be one...hehe
>
>DC wrote:
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>> Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was
so
>>
>>> friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
the
>>
>>> time.
>>
>> Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
solid
>> writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny,
cuz
>> I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>> (M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>
>> About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>
>> DC
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I actually admire Scholtz for a number of reasons. He sued his sweat shop
record label (with money made from his electronics) and won. He designed
some really cool guitar gear, I still wish I had my Rockman chorus module.
Also, as you say, a bright and thoughtful guy when interviewed. But I just
can't hang with the music.
Unrelated question, Don. As a guitar geek. My Fulltone OCD was stolen at
a gig recently. I'm playing these days through a two amp rig, a Top Hat AC-15
knockoff with a power soak on it and a Savage Macht 6. I've kind of decided
the OCD was a little too pretty for me. Great pedal but just not enough grit.
I'm thinking of a Fulltone 70 pedal or a Soul Bender, so more of a true fuzz
sound than an overdrive. Good idea? Bad idea? Alternative idea?
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
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>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>
>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>
>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
the
>
>>time.
>
>Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some solid
>writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny, cuz
>I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>(M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>
>About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>
>DC
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87568 is a reply to message #87566] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 14:36 |
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I listen to Kraftwerk (a lot) so I don't have a problem with perfect and well
executed music. I also like David paintings and Philip Larkin verse and Greek
terra cotta, all of which are almost perfectly executed. My point is that
Boston, to me and me only, sounds well executed to be sure, but to me also
phony and contrived. There's no airs put on by Hendrix, you can hear the
sweat and craziness and dirt all over the place. Again, just for me, not
trying to cause problems, Boston sounds like it's really trying to have feeling,
emotion, and balls but just doesn't.
TCB
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Now then, I'm really not trying to be divisive here. If people like More
>Than
>>a Feeling or think it's not treasonous to out a covert CIA agent that's
>OK.
>>We agree to disagree. But doesn't Boston seem a bit, I guess 'contrived'
>>is the best word? And I don't mean 'predictable' or 'well executed,' I
like
>>music made by machines after all. But doesn't More Than a Feeling actually
>>have Less Than a Feeling because it's trying so very hard to have Feeling
>>but ends up so buffed and perfect it's antiseptic?
>
>
>Then you probably don't like works of art such as
>executed, after all.
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>Neil
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I guess I view stuff like Boston, Steely Dan, Toy Matinee, etc.,
as skillfully-crafted works - they're deliberate in so many
aspects, and it's that which takes you to where they want you
to go... I mean, there's a whole world in Aja - just listen to
it open-mindedly sometime. Same goes for the first Boston album
(sorry, I don't even give them a pass on "Don't Look Back" -
it's ok, but nothing like the first one).
If guys like Fagen & Scholz would've wanted to produce raw
emotion & slightly out-of-tune chording, they certainly could
have. Scholz's problem is that he couldn't sustain the vision
very long.
Neil
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>I listen to Kraftwerk (a lot) so I don't have a problem with perfect and
well
>executed music. I also like David paintings and Philip Larkin verse and
Greek
>terra cotta, all of which are almost perfectly executed. My point is that
>Boston, to me and me only, sounds well executed to be sure, but to me also
>phony and contrived. There's no airs put on by Hendrix, you can hear the
>sweat and craziness and dirt all over the place. Again, just for me, not
>trying to cause problems, Boston sounds like it's really trying to have
feeling,
>emotion, and balls but just doesn't.
>
>TCB
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Now then, I'm really not trying to be divisive here. If people like More
>>Than
>>>a Feeling or think it's not treasonous to out a covert CIA agent that's
>>OK.
>>>We agree to disagree. But doesn't Boston seem a bit, I guess 'contrived'
>>>is the best word? And I don't mean 'predictable' or 'well executed,' I
>like
>>>music made by machines after all. But doesn't More Than a Feeling actually
>>>have Less Than a Feeling because it's trying so very hard to have Feeling
>>>but ends up so buffed and perfect it's antiseptic?
>>
>>
>>Then you probably don't like works of art such as
>>executed, after all.
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87586 is a reply to message #87565] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 22:20 |
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>Unrelated question, Don. As a guitar geek. My Fulltone OCD was stolen at
>a gig recently. I'm playing these days through a two amp rig, a Top Hat
AC-15
>knockoff with a power soak on it and a Savage Macht 6. I've kind of decided
>the OCD was a little too pretty for me. Great pedal but just not enough
grit.
>I'm thinking of a Fulltone 70 pedal or a Soul Bender, so more of a true
fuzz
>sound than an overdrive. Good idea? Bad idea? Alternative idea?
Sorry about the theft. Your music seems really chord-driven rather than
lead-guitar driven and I think a fuzz-type pedal might mush out pretty
quick. For more grind without mush, I like the Barber Direct Drive.
http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
Yeah, they talk a lot about "vintage" this and that but the pedal has a
good grind to it.
See if there is somewhere you can try one out.
Also, I have heard that the Foxrox ZIM is great and you can swap cards
out to get what you want.
http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
And there may be a fuzz that does just what you want that I have not
heard.
I have one of these:
http://www.tone-man.com/rangemaster.htm
on order, and I can't wait to hear what all those germanium overtones
do in front of my Direct Drive.
More to follow.
How's the band doing?
DC
>
>TCB
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was so
>>
>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>the
>>
>>>time.
>>
>>Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some solid
>>writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny, cuz
>>I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>>(M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>
>>About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>
>>DC
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Wed, 04 July 2007 22:25 |
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To me, buffed and perfect can be bitchin' as hell. I mean look how well
Bach did it. But then I always did like classically influenced rock, and
I fuggin' love the way Boston turns their song "Smokin" into Bach's
Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor in the middle. It still knocks me out
after all these years.
But I also love the Ramones.
DC
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Now then, I'm really not trying to be divisive here. If people like More
Than
>a Feeling or think it's not treasonous to out a covert CIA agent that's
OK.
>We agree to disagree. But doesn't Boston seem a bit, I guess 'contrived'
>is the best word? And I don't mean 'predictable' or 'well executed,' I like
>music made by machines after all. But doesn't More Than a Feeling actually
>have Less Than a Feeling because it's trying so very hard to have Feeling
>but ends up so buffed and perfect it's antiseptic?
>
>TCB
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I always liked the way Delf's voice morphed into guitar feedback at the
>
>>beginning of the lead solo in More than A Feeling.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote in message news:468b34d3$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was
so
>>>
>>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>the
>>>
>>>>time.
>>>
>>> Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
>
>>> solid
>>> writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny,
>cuz
>>> I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>>> (M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>>
>>> About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>>
>>> DC
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Thu, 05 July 2007 06:50 |
TCB
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Hey Don,
Thanks for the tips. The first Monkies record (the one you've heard) I barely
played on. A track here and there. It was pretty much done by Nick and Russell,
and they brought me in when they decided they wanted to play on stage. So
I've added a more sleaze and lead to the band, which Nick in particular has
been enjoying. I'm also adding feedback parts and ebow things and slide bits
and capoed open tunning and all manner of stuff.
The other guitar player in my band uses the Barber pedal you describe, and
it sounds great on his (very clean) silver Fender Bassman, but my 'base'
sound is pretty gritty to start with and the Barber doesn't sound nearly
as good. The Foxrox looks interesting, though they don't have the fuzz cards
I'd be interested in done yet. I've played my last TS-9, or clone there of!
Anyway, thanks, I'll check out the Foxrox,
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>>Unrelated question, Don. As a guitar geek. My Fulltone OCD was stolen at
>>a gig recently. I'm playing these days through a two amp rig, a Top Hat
>AC-15
>>knockoff with a power soak on it and a Savage Macht 6. I've kind of decided
>>the OCD was a little too pretty for me. Great pedal but just not enough
>grit.
>>I'm thinking of a Fulltone 70 pedal or a Soul Bender, so more of a true
>fuzz
>>sound than an overdrive. Good idea? Bad idea? Alternative idea?
>
>
>Sorry about the theft. Your music seems really chord-driven rather than
>lead-guitar driven and I think a fuzz-type pedal might mush out pretty
>quick. For more grind without mush, I like the Barber Direct Drive.
>
>http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>
>Yeah, they talk a lot about "vintage" this and that but the pedal has a
>good grind to it.
>
>See if there is somewhere you can try one out.
>
>Also, I have heard that the Foxrox ZIM is great and you can swap cards
>out to get what you want.
>
>http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
>
>And there may be a fuzz that does just what you want that I have not
>heard.
>
>I have one of these:
>
>http://www.tone-man.com/rangemaster.htm
>
>on order, and I can't wait to hear what all those germanium overtones
>do in front of my Direct Drive.
>
>More to follow.
>
>
>How's the band doing?
>
>
>DC
>
>
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was
so
>>>
>>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me at
>>the
>>>
>>>>time.
>>>
>>>Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
solid
>>>writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny,
cuz
>>>I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>>>(M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>>
>>>About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>>
>>>DC
>>
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Thu, 05 July 2007 06:52 |
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Hmm . . . I'm guessing here . . . in a straightjacket? I'm much better with
Beatles trivia. :)
S
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:468bcac5@linux...
> Do you know how Alice recorded that vocal section?
> (trivia time!)
> AA
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:468b1550$1@linux...
>> Oh yeah, that song has one of the best crazy twisted guitar solos ever.
>>
>> I gotta get outa here . . . I've . . . got . . . to . . . get . . . OUT
>> . . . of . . . here!
>>
>> Good stuff. :)
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:468aebe7$1@linux...
>>> Ballad of Dwight Fry tops my all time 5 favs.
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>>> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>>
>>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with you
>>>> on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way louder
>>>> than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73 and the
>>>> local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag reflex
>>>> barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd play it
>>>> again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . . it's
>>>> predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It is to
>>>> music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and soft
>>>> enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American consumer
>>>> is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and use it
>>>> continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>>
>>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's
>>>> Classic Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something
>>>> truly creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the
>>>> airwaves?
>>>>
>>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my
>>>> top ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . .
>>>> . not so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>>
>>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>>
>>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I
>>>> still listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on occasion.
>>>> After the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar Babies," Alice
>>>> lost his original band and with them a lot of important creative input.
>>>> Being an entertainer became way more important than making good music,
>>>> so Alice hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed with Bob Hope and "went
>>>> Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>>
>>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff.
>>>> There's lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much
>>>> of it on the radio.
>>>>
>>>> S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices
>>>>> had
>>>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>>> that
>>>>> in years.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
>>>>> the
>>>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>>> made
>>>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>>> Soundgarden,
>>>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>>> fit
>>>>> the format.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
>>>>> also
>>>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the
>>>>> way he
>>>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>>> listen
>>>>> to from that era.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>>
>>>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines
>>>>> or Randy
>>>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>>> Feeling
>>>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
>>>>> the
>>>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>>>
>>>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>>
>>>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions?
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Thu, 05 July 2007 08:46 |
dc[3]
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Ahhh, from what you are describing, I think a fuzz is the right direction
too. Barber has a fuzz in the prototype stage and is working on the
production version. Might be worth an email to ask him about it.
He sure builds nice stuff.
People seem to like these:
http://www.analogman.com/fuzzface.htm
Here's some more opinions:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=264861& ;highlight=fuzz
DC
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Don,
>
>Thanks for the tips. The first Monkies record (the one you've heard) I barely
>played on. A track here and there. It was pretty much done by Nick and Russell,
>and they brought me in when they decided they wanted to play on stage. So
>I've added a more sleaze and lead to the band, which Nick in particular
has
>been enjoying. I'm also adding feedback parts and ebow things and slide
bits
>and capoed open tunning and all manner of stuff.
>
>The other guitar player in my band uses the Barber pedal you describe, and
>it sounds great on his (very clean) silver Fender Bassman, but my 'base'
>sound is pretty gritty to start with and the Barber doesn't sound nearly
>as good. The Foxrox looks interesting, though they don't have the fuzz cards
>I'd be interested in done yet. I've played my last TS-9, or clone there
of!
>
>Anyway, thanks, I'll check out the Foxrox,
>
>TCB
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Unrelated question, Don. As a guitar geek. My Fulltone OCD was stolen
at
>>>a gig recently. I'm playing these days through a two amp rig, a Top Hat
>>AC-15
>>>knockoff with a power soak on it and a Savage Macht 6. I've kind of decided
>>>the OCD was a little too pretty for me. Great pedal but just not enough
>>grit.
>>>I'm thinking of a Fulltone 70 pedal or a Soul Bender, so more of a true
>>fuzz
>>>sound than an overdrive. Good idea? Bad idea? Alternative idea?
>>
>>
>>Sorry about the theft. Your music seems really chord-driven rather than
>>lead-guitar driven and I think a fuzz-type pedal might mush out pretty
>>quick. For more grind without mush, I like the Barber Direct Drive.
>>
>>http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>>
>>Yeah, they talk a lot about "vintage" this and that but the pedal has a
>
>>good grind to it.
>>
>>See if there is somewhere you can try one out.
>>
>>Also, I have heard that the Foxrox ZIM is great and you can swap cards
>>out to get what you want.
>>
>>http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
>>
>>And there may be a fuzz that does just what you want that I have not
>>heard.
>>
>>I have one of these:
>>
>>http://www.tone-man.com/rangemaster.htm
>>
>>on order, and I can't wait to hear what all those germanium overtones
>>do in front of my Direct Drive.
>>
>>More to follow.
>>
>>
>>How's the band doing?
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was
>so
>>>>
>>>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me
at
>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>time.
>>>>
>>>>Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
>solid
>>>>writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny,
>cuz
>>>>I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>>>>(M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>>>
>>>>About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87613 is a reply to message #87463] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 09:03 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Everybody has an opinion, so I'll give mine too. Most classic rock is old,
tired, and over played, however I still love a lot of it. For me it's mood
music. When I'm in the mood I can really dig it, it takes me back. When
I'm not in the mood, I can hardly stand it. One thing I really like about
classic rock is, it was real musicianship.
The band Boston took rock to a new level at the time. The songs, the playing,
the sound, the production and the way that music was recorded were all notable
at the time. Rockin' organ, Boston's incorporation of the Hammond B3 organ
in rock at the time was also notable. Also, the concepts and the art work
on the album covers for Boston and Steve Miller were exceptional at the time.
I think Boston really did want to take us to a new place musically.
If you don't care for Boston or Steve Miller that's cool. If you think that
they have been over played, that they had their fair time on the radio and
should move over for new music, that is Ok too.
The term "CRACKER" has many meanings, but in this case it is derogative.
It is a anti white slur, that is black slang for stupid, unintelligent,
dimwitted white people. It is similar to calling somebody a stupid redneck.
In this case it is a slam on the music and anybody that would like it, or
listen to this music, which would be quite a few of us here.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices had
>the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like that
>in years.
>
>
>- Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they made
>most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney, Soundgarden,
>and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't fit
>the format.
>
>- Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
he
>played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to listen
>to from that era.
>
>- Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>
>- There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
Randy
>Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A Feeling
>by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>notes are unreadable.
>
>- I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>
>- If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>
>Opinions?
>
>TCB
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87617 is a reply to message #87612] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 10:48 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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The foxrox pedal is really cool, but they don't have the fuzz cards ready
yet. Bummer. If I could get one germanium and one silicon fuzz (the first
for fuzz and the second for freakout) I bet that would be a killer.
One of the reasons I'm doing this (besides the theft) is that I want more
nastiness in my sounds. I sound like a former professional blues/jazz guitar
player playing in a punky power pop band, 'cause that's what I am. In fact,
that's a general problem with the Monx. My guitars sound too nice, my mixes
sound too nice, my soft panned backing vox sound too nice, etc. and so on.
Maybe I'll just get a used Fulltone '69 pedal and a new '70 pedal. That should
do the trick nicely.
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Ahhh, from what you are describing, I think a fuzz is the right direction
>too. Barber has a fuzz in the prototype stage and is working on the
>production version. Might be worth an email to ask him about it.
>He sure builds nice stuff.
>
>People seem to like these:
>
>http://www.analogman.com/fuzzface.htm
>
>Here's some more opinions:
>
> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=264861& ;highlight=fuzz
>
>DC
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Don,
>>
>>Thanks for the tips. The first Monkies record (the one you've heard) I
barely
>>played on. A track here and there. It was pretty much done by Nick and
Russell,
>>and they brought me in when they decided they wanted to play on stage.
So
>>I've added a more sleaze and lead to the band, which Nick in particular
>has
>>been enjoying. I'm also adding feedback parts and ebow things and slide
>bits
>>and capoed open tunning and all manner of stuff.
>>
>>The other guitar player in my band uses the Barber pedal you describe,
and
>>it sounds great on his (very clean) silver Fender Bassman, but my 'base'
>>sound is pretty gritty to start with and the Barber doesn't sound nearly
>>as good. The Foxrox looks interesting, though they don't have the fuzz
cards
>>I'd be interested in done yet. I've played my last TS-9, or clone there
>of!
>>
>>Anyway, thanks, I'll check out the Foxrox,
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Unrelated question, Don. As a guitar geek. My Fulltone OCD was stolen
>at
>>>>a gig recently. I'm playing these days through a two amp rig, a Top Hat
>>>AC-15
>>>>knockoff with a power soak on it and a Savage Macht 6. I've kind of decided
>>>>the OCD was a little too pretty for me. Great pedal but just not enough
>>>grit.
>>>>I'm thinking of a Fulltone 70 pedal or a Soul Bender, so more of a true
>>>fuzz
>>>>sound than an overdrive. Good idea? Bad idea? Alternative idea?
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry about the theft. Your music seems really chord-driven rather than
>>>lead-guitar driven and I think a fuzz-type pedal might mush out pretty
>>>quick. For more grind without mush, I like the Barber Direct Drive.
>>>
>>>http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>>>
>>>Yeah, they talk a lot about "vintage" this and that but the pedal has
a
>>
>>>good grind to it.
>>>
>>>See if there is somewhere you can try one out.
>>>
>>>Also, I have heard that the Foxrox ZIM is great and you can swap cards
>>>out to get what you want.
>>>
>>>http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
>>>
>>>And there may be a fuzz that does just what you want that I have not
>>>heard.
>>>
>>>I have one of these:
>>>
>>>http://www.tone-man.com/rangemaster.htm
>>>
>>>on order, and I can't wait to hear what all those germanium overtones
>>>do in front of my Direct Drive.
>>>
>>>More to follow.
>>>
>>>
>>>How's the band doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was
>>so
>>>>>
>>>>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me
>at
>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
>>solid
>>>>>writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny,
>>cuz
>>>>>I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>>>>>(M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>>>>
>>>>>About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87627 is a reply to message #87602] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 16:47 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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Ezrin stacked a bunch of folding chairs on Vincent, effectively trapping him
in something tangible, then rolled tape. Heh.
AA <- Cooper fan
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:468cf91a@linux...
> Hmm . . . I'm guessing here . . . in a straightjacket? I'm much better
> with Beatles trivia. :)
>
> S
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:468bcac5@linux...
>> Do you know how Alice recorded that vocal section?
>> (trivia time!)
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:468b1550$1@linux...
>>> Oh yeah, that song has one of the best crazy twisted guitar solos ever.
>>>
>>> I gotta get outa here . . . I've . . . got . . . to . . . get . . . OUT
>>> . . . of . . . here!
>>>
>>> Good stuff. :)
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:468aebe7$1@linux...
>>>> Ballad of Dwight Fry tops my all time 5 favs.
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:468ae987$1@linux...
>>>>> Opinions? Sure, I'm crawlin' with 'em over here:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am so with you on Steve Miller, in fact, I would disagree with
>>>>> you on one point . . . I think Steve Miller Band screams CRACKER way
>>>>> louder than Boston. I had just moved my band to Portland in late '73
>>>>> and the local stations were playing "The Joker" so often that my gag
>>>>> reflex barely had a chance to relax from the last play when they'd
>>>>> play it again. Unfortunately, I think I do understand the appeal . . .
>>>>> it's predictable . . . it's easy listening with a rock drumbeat. It
>>>>> is to music what McDonalds is to food. It's sweet, fatty, salty, and
>>>>> soft enough not to require much chewing. The motto of the American
>>>>> consumer is "Please, Don't Make Me Think!" (Politicians know this and
>>>>> use it continuously, but that's another discussion)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to solo out Steve Miller -- this appeal to the lowest common
>>>>> denominator seems to be true of most popular music, whether it's
>>>>> Classic Rock or the latest in Hippity Hop. How often does something
>>>>> truly creative, unique, or even interesting break through on the
>>>>> airwaves?
>>>>>
>>>>> Love AC/DC in their Bon Scott period ("Highway to Hell" is in my
>>>>> top ten rock songs of all time). AC/DC with Brian what's-his-name . .
>>>>> . not so interesting. He's a good screamer, but not much character.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, I liked Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth. Hot music, very
>>>>> intersting vocals. Sammy Hagar . . . ? YAWN!
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a lot of great bands deteriorate into boring parodies of
>>>>> themselves after achieving worldwide success and wealth. I think it's
>>>>> one of the hazards of getting rich off of one's art.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my favorite bands of the '70s was Alice Cooper, in fact I
>>>>> still listen to the albums "Love It To Death" and "Killer" on
>>>>> occasion. After the success of "School's Out" and "Billion Dollar
>>>>> Babies," Alice lost his original band and with them a lot of important
>>>>> creative input. Being an entertainer became way more important than
>>>>> making good music, so Alice hung out with Liza Minnelli and golfed
>>>>> with Bob Hope and "went Hollywood." YAWN!
>>>>>
>>>>> I do think things got interesting for a while in the nineties when
>>>>> Nirvana broke the spell of spandex, big hair, and lipstick, but now
>>>>> things have settled back down into layers of homogenized fluff.
>>>>> There's lots of great music out there, just don't expect to hear much
>>>>> of it on the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468a9096$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our
>>>>>> offices had
>>>>>> the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> in years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney,
>>>>>> Soundgarden,
>>>>>> and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't
>>>>>> fit
>>>>>> the format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the
>>>>>> way he
>>>>>> played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to
>>>>>> listen
>>>>>> to from that era.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines
>>>>>> or Randy
>>>>>> Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A
>>>>>> Feeling
>>>>>> by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> notes are unreadable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Opinions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87636 is a reply to message #87617] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 20:54 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Dang, this could be your pedal.
Check out the clips.
http://skreddypedals.com/skreddy_pedals_mayo.htm
DC
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>The foxrox pedal is really cool, but they don't have the fuzz cards ready
>yet. Bummer. If I could get one germanium and one silicon fuzz (the first
>for fuzz and the second for freakout) I bet that would be a killer.
>
>One of the reasons I'm doing this (besides the theft) is that I want more
>nastiness in my sounds. I sound like a former professional blues/jazz guitar
>player playing in a punky power pop band, 'cause that's what I am. In fact,
>that's a general problem with the Monx. My guitars sound too nice, my mixes
>sound too nice, my soft panned backing vox sound too nice, etc. and so on.
>
>
>Maybe I'll just get a used Fulltone '69 pedal and a new '70 pedal. That
should
>do the trick nicely.
>
>TCB
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ahhh, from what you are describing, I think a fuzz is the right direction
>>too. Barber has a fuzz in the prototype stage and is working on the
>>production version. Might be worth an email to ask him about it.
>>He sure builds nice stuff.
>>
>>People seem to like these:
>>
>>http://www.analogman.com/fuzzface.htm
>>
>>Here's some more opinions:
>>
>> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=264861& ;highlight=fuzz
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Don,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the tips. The first Monkies record (the one you've heard) I
>barely
>>>played on. A track here and there. It was pretty much done by Nick and
>Russell,
>>>and they brought me in when they decided they wanted to play on stage.
>So
>>>I've added a more sleaze and lead to the band, which Nick in particular
>>has
>>>been enjoying. I'm also adding feedback parts and ebow things and slide
>>bits
>>>and capoed open tunning and all manner of stuff.
>>>
>>>The other guitar player in my band uses the Barber pedal you describe,
>and
>>>it sounds great on his (very clean) silver Fender Bassman, but my 'base'
>>>sound is pretty gritty to start with and the Barber doesn't sound nearly
>>>as good. The Foxrox looks interesting, though they don't have the fuzz
>cards
>>>I'd be interested in done yet. I've played my last TS-9, or clone there
>>of!
>>>
>>>Anyway, thanks, I'll check out the Foxrox,
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Unrelated question, Don. As a guitar geek. My Fulltone OCD was stolen
>>at
>>>>>a gig recently. I'm playing these days through a two amp rig, a Top
Hat
>>>>AC-15
>>>>>knockoff with a power soak on it and a Savage Macht 6. I've kind of
decided
>>>>>the OCD was a little too pretty for me. Great pedal but just not enough
>>>>grit.
>>>>>I'm thinking of a Fulltone 70 pedal or a Soul Bender, so more of a true
>>>>fuzz
>>>>>sound than an overdrive. Good idea? Bad idea? Alternative idea?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry about the theft. Your music seems really chord-driven rather than
>>>>lead-guitar driven and I think a fuzz-type pedal might mush out pretty
>>>>quick. For more grind without mush, I like the Barber Direct Drive.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, they talk a lot about "vintage" this and that but the pedal has
>a
>>>
>>>>good grind to it.
>>>>
>>>>See if there is somewhere you can try one out.
>>>>
>>>>Also, I have heard that the Foxrox ZIM is great and you can swap cards
>>>>out to get what you want.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
>>>>
>>>>And there may be a fuzz that does just what you want that I have not
>>>>heard.
>>>>
>>>>I have one of these:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.tone-man.com/rangemaster.htm
>>>>
>>>>on order, and I can't wait to hear what all those germanium overtones
>>>>do in front of my Direct Drive.
>>>>
>>>>More to follow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How's the band doing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As far as cracker bands are concerned, I never thougth that of
>>>>>>>Boston.....but then again, I really never gave it any thought. I was
>>>so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>friggin glad to be hearing anything but disco that it worked for me
>>at
>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Like so much of radio they only play the lighter side. There is some
>>>solid
>>>>>>writing and playing once you get past "more than a feeling". Funny,
>>>cuz
>>>>>>I met Scholz and he is definitely Thad's kind of guy. Highly educated,
>>>>>>(M.A. M.I.T.) very intellectual with a great passion for music technology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>About as much of a cracker as SSC was...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87637 is a reply to message #87463] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 21:00 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Over the weekend I got to see some classic rock acts for free at a festival.
I saw Mark Farner, he was good. Blue Oyster Cult they were Ok, and Paul
Rogers. Paul Rogers was great! He still has a great voice, and the band
was tight. I also saw Puddle of Mud, and they were good as well.
The week before I was dragged to a Ted Nugent show, they sure rocked it for
a three piece band. It was a freebie, so I went. A few years ago I saw
him and I have to say he had the worst sound I had ever heard, bar none.
This time the sound was Ok.
These guys still draw big crowds here in Detroit, I'm sure in other parts
of the country they wouldn't draw flies.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Just random observations. The construction guys renovating our offices had
>the local classic rock station on. Haven't listened to anything like that
>in years.
>
>
>- Peral Jam is by far the most boring band to come out of Seattle in the
>90's, but the only one who can get on a classic rock station, so they made
>most of the money. The Screaming Trees, Alice in CHains, Mudhoney, Soundgarden,
>and half a dozen others were better bands with better songs but don't fit
>the format.
>
>- Eddie Van Halen on their first record was a staggeringly good but also
>tasteful guitar player. And there's something just joyful about the way
he
>played back then. It was lost as time went on but he's a pleasure to listen
>to from that era.
>
>- Angus Young has some devestating vibrato.
>
>- There's nothing in this world short of a trailer truck of Saltines or
Randy
>Travis that positively screams CRACKER quite as loudly as More Than A Feeling
>by Boston. There's no sheet music for that song 'cuase it's so white the
>notes are unreadable.
>
>- I will never get why the Steve Miller Band is so popular.
>
>- If any band can give Van Halen a run for their money in the 'We didn't
>used to suck but boy to we now' category it would be ZZ Top.
>
>Opinions?
>
>TCB
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