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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90543 is a reply to message #90358] |
Tue, 25 September 2007 12:59   |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46f94f01$1@linux...
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> Back when I was selling Paris some people expressed these same thoughts,
> especially if they came from Cubase or Logic. I would try to get
> potential
> customers to look at that non hardware demo and they would get turned off
> by the color and the look. I got asked if it had skins here and there.
> Some loved it and some thought it was yuk.
I sold Paris for a while as well (did you ever work with Eddie Fritz?) -
same responses. In some ways I liked it, but in others,
not my favorite - still beat the pants off of ProTools interface - and more
graphically creative than anything at the time.
Did you (or anyone else) ever see Mantis? Brian T had it running at his
place as a patch bay - iirc, it was a somewhat similar interface, but I
think in the blue-grey color scheme - pretty darn high tech and cool looking
at the time, imho. It also looked like it would have been Paris on
steroids. Aaron probably knows of it.
>
> By the way, I'm glad we're on to different subjects.
Same here. Have a great day.
Regards,
Dedric
>
> James
>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
>
>>> graphics
>>> and color?
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>>
>>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>>
>>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like
>>>>> Gothic
>>>
>>>>> look
>>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like
>>>>> interface
>>> is
>>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
> It
>>>
>>>>> must
>>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>> but
>>>>> N4
>>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>> the
>>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>> of
>>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
> much
>>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>>before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
> for
>>>>> an
>>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>>automatic
>>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
> VST3
>>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>>
>>>>>>alone
>>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
> as
>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90559 is a reply to message #90543] |
Tue, 25 September 2007 20:09 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Yup, I do. That Mantis was phenom man, total recall like the Paris Patchbay,
only in Adat land.
G'luck talking BT out of that, heh.. I think he said there were very few
made of them.
AA
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:46f96dfc@linux...
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46f94f01$1@linux...
>>
>> Back when I was selling Paris some people expressed these same thoughts,
>> especially if they came from Cubase or Logic. I would try to get
>> potential
>> customers to look at that non hardware demo and they would get turned
>> off
>> by the color and the look. I got asked if it had skins here and there.
>> Some loved it and some thought it was yuk.
>
> I sold Paris for a while as well (did you ever work with Eddie Fritz?) -
> same responses. In some ways I liked it, but in others,
> not my favorite - still beat the pants off of ProTools interface - and
> more graphically creative than anything at the time.
>
> Did you (or anyone else) ever see Mantis? Brian T had it running at his
> place as a patch bay - iirc, it was a somewhat similar interface, but I
> think in the blue-grey color scheme - pretty darn high tech and cool
> looking at the time, imho. It also looked like it would have been Paris
> on steroids. Aaron probably knows of it.
>
>>
>> By the way, I'm glad we're on to different subjects.
>
> Same here. Have a great day.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>>
>> James
>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW
>>>> interface
>>
>>>> graphics
>>>> and color?
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>>>
>>>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and
>>>>>spreadsheet
>>>>
>>>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like
>>>>>> Gothic
>>>>
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like
>>>>>> interface
>>>> is
>>>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
>> It
>>>>
>>>>>> must
>>>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>>> but
>>>>>> N4
>>>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes
>>>>>>>include
>>>> the
>>>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>>> of
>>>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
>> much
>>>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>>>before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>> for
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>>>automatic
>>>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
>> VST3
>>>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key
>>>>>>>commands
>>>>
>>>>>>>alone
>>>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
>> as
>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90606 is a reply to message #90559] |
Wed, 26 September 2007 11:30 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Kevin M. told me that they showed the mantis under a glass case at one of
the shows. The concept with the ethernet was then stolen by Roland and showed
up in the VM 7200 mixer product according to Kevin M. Kevin tried and tried
to get EMU to move forward on Mantis, but it, like many things was left to
wither on the vine and die. Kevin said that the technology behind mantis
was vary promising.
Does anybody remember the Ensoniq analog mixer from around 1996? I think
it was supposed to have some digital outs, something like the Mackie Onyx.
It was 16ch and modular, I always wondered if it was supposed to be the
front end for Paris???
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yup, I do. That Mantis was phenom man, total recall like the Paris Patchbay,
>only in Adat land.
>G'luck talking BT out of that, heh.. I think he said there were very few
>made of them.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:46f96dfc@linux...
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46f94f01$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Back when I was selling Paris some people expressed these same thoughts,
>>> especially if they came from Cubase or Logic. I would try to get
>>> potential
>>> customers to look at that non hardware demo and they would get turned
>>> off
>>> by the color and the look. I got asked if it had skins here and there.
>>> Some loved it and some thought it was yuk.
>>
>> I sold Paris for a while as well (did you ever work with Eddie Fritz?)
-
>> same responses. In some ways I liked it, but in others,
>> not my favorite - still beat the pants off of ProTools interface - and
>> more graphically creative than anything at the time.
>>
>> Did you (or anyone else) ever see Mantis? Brian T had it running at his
>> place as a patch bay - iirc, it was a somewhat similar interface, but
I
>> think in the blue-grey color scheme - pretty darn high tech and cool
>> looking at the time, imho. It also looked like it would have been Paris
>> on steroids. Aaron probably knows of it.
>>
>>>
>>> By the way, I'm glad we're on to different subjects.
>>
>> Same here. Have a great day.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW
>>>>> interface
>>>
>>>>> graphics
>>>>> and color?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and
>>>>>>spreadsheet
>>>>>
>>>>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like
>>>>>>> Gothic
>>>>>
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like
>>>>>>> interface
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
>>> It
>>>>>
>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>>>> but
>>>>>>> N4
>>>>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes
>>>>>>>>include
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
>>> much
>>>>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>>>>before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>>> for
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>>>>automatic
>>>>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
>>> VST3
>>>>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key
>>>>>>>>commands
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>alone
>>>>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for
me
>>> as
>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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