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OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100728] Mon, 27 October 2008 04:53 Go to next message
mike audet[1] is currently offline  mike audet[1]
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I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps coming
up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.

SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0

So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight piracy
for their upcoming store.

PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
SP2.

Mike
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100730 is a reply to message #100728] Mon, 27 October 2008 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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It would not surprise me.

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
coming
>up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>
>SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>
>So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight piracy
>for their upcoming store.
>
>PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
>SP2.
>
>Mike
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100733 is a reply to message #100728] Mon, 27 October 2008 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_m is currently offline  xpam_m   UNITED STATES
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SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite
so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause
it SO aint ready to go.

FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't exect
to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is what
they are planning.

WMW


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>
> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
> coming
> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>
> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>
> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
> piracy
> for their upcoming store.
>
> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
> SP2.
>
> Mike
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100734 is a reply to message #100733] Mon, 27 October 2008 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Here's a glimpse of where they are going, looks kind of familiar:

Microsoft unveils `cloud computing' product

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20081027/D942UOPG0.html

How original, the concept of a cloud, a place to store and host all your
media, I wonder where they got that idea???

Hmmmm... looks familiar:
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/

It looks like MS is going to start with Amazon to sell music, maybe they
will call it ZuneTunes later.

"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote:
>SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite

>so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause

>it SO aint ready to go.
>
>FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't exect

>to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is what

>they are planning.
>
>WMW
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>
>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps

>> coming
>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>
>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>
>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight

>> piracy
>> for their upcoming store.
>>
>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
>> SP2.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100740 is a reply to message #100734] Mon, 27 October 2008 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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It sounded like Ms was going to sell storage space, web based software programs,
and media through Amazon. Now Microsoft says they will compete with Amazon.
It will be interesting to see what Windows Azure is.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20081027/D9432PC84.html

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Here's a glimpse of where they are going, looks kind of familiar:
>
>Microsoft unveils `cloud computing' product
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20081027/D942UOPG0.html
>
>How original, the concept of a cloud, a place to store and host all your
>media, I wonder where they got that idea???
>
>Hmmmm... looks familiar:
>http://www.apple.com/mobileme/
>
>It looks like MS is going to start with Amazon to sell music, maybe they
>will call it ZuneTunes later.
>
>"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote:
>>SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite
>
>>so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause
>
>>it SO aint ready to go.
>>
>>FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't exect
>
>>to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is what
>
>>they are planning.
>>
>>WMW
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
>
>>> coming
>>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>>
>>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>>
>>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
>
>>> piracy
>>> for their upcoming store.
>>>
>>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop
with
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100748 is a reply to message #100733] Tue, 28 October 2008 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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Hey Mark

How did you remove SP3 and go back to SP2 if that's possible

Reason I ask is we're looking at a used laptop with SP3 on it and I'd like
to havethe option of going to SP2

Don




"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:49060b47@linux...
> SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite
> so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause
> it SO aint ready to go.
>
> FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't
> exect to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is
> what they are planning.
>
> WMW
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>
>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
>> coming
>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>
>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>
>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
>> piracy
>> for their upcoming store.
>>
>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
>> SP2.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100749 is a reply to message #100733] Tue, 28 October 2008 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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Hey Mark

How did you remove SP3 and go back to SP2 if that's possible

Reason I ask is we're looking at a used laptop with SP3 on it and I'd like
to havethe option of going to SP2

Don




"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:49060b47@linux...
> SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite
> so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause
> it SO aint ready to go.
>
> FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't
> exect to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is
> what they are planning.
>
> WMW
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>
>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
>> coming
>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>
>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>
>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
>> piracy
>> for their upcoming store.
>>
>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
>> SP2.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100750 is a reply to message #100734] Tue, 28 October 2008 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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> Hmmmm... looks familiar:
> http://www.apple.com/mobileme/

Yeah, well... Most of you who know me, know that I've been a mac user
for a few years. (I'm really an old Unix guy is what it is, and I like
BSD unix better than Linux.)

I think that MobileME has been one of the most anticipated, yet the most
bungled, products that Apple has developed. On top of the crappy web
mail interface, the increased SPAM, and all the system downtime, I
personally think that "me.com" is the most pretentious, selfish, B.S.
name for a website, and I will never use it for my email or web addresses...

How's that? :)

Doug

http://www.parisfaqs.com


Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100751 is a reply to message #100750] Tue, 28 October 2008 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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On 2008-10-28 07:50:00 -0700, Doug Wellington <doug@parisfaqs.com> said:

> I personally think that "me.com" is the most pretentious, selfish,
> B.S. name for a website, and I will never use it for my email or web
> addresses...

Not even if they offered you a free mePod? :)

- K

>
> How's that? :)
>
> Doug
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100752 is a reply to message #100750] Tue, 28 October 2008 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Doug Wellington <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>> Hmmmm... looks familiar:
>> http://www.apple.com/mobileme/
>
>Yeah, well... Most of you who know me, know that I've been a mac user
>for a few years. (I'm really an old Unix guy is what it is, and I like

>BSD unix better than Linux.)
>
>I think that MobileME has been one of the most anticipated, yet the most

>bungled, products that Apple has developed. On top of the crappy web
>mail interface, the increased SPAM, and all the system downtime, I
>personally think that "me.com" is the most pretentious, selfish, B.S.
>name for a website, and I will never use it for my email or web addresses...
>
>How's that? :)
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com

I thought the cloud name and concept was childish and rather insulting to
the intelligence of Mac users. Apparently MS thinks the name and concept
is worth copying. Lol! Once again, I think Apple is going in some wrong
directions, like canning FireWire and cutting down the Power/features on
the white MacBooks. In the end they will get the software straitened out,
but to put out buggy crap software sure reminds me of Microsoft.
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100753 is a reply to message #100748] Tue, 28 October 2008 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erling is currently offline  Erling   NORWAY
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I believe Mark is a "Ghost" person;-) Seriously, I believe he allways
have a good, old Ghost-version ready, if some shit should happened
with the computer. DosGhost and newer computers isn't a good affair,
so I'm using Paragon Hard Disk Manager from
http://www.paragon-software.com/ to do the "Ghost", Partition and
Defraging job.

Erling

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:33:56 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com>
wrote:

>Hey Mark
>
>How did you remove SP3 and go back to SP2 if that's possible
>
>Reason I ask is we're looking at a used laptop with SP3 on it and I'd like
>to havethe option of going to SP2
>
>Don
>
>
>
>
>"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote in message
>news:49060b47@linux...
>> SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite
>> so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause
>> it SO aint ready to go.
>>
>> FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't
>> exect to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is
>> what they are planning.
>>
>> WMW
>>
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
>>> coming
>>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>>
>>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>>
>>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
>>> piracy
>>> for their upcoming store.
>>>
>>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop with
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100754 is a reply to message #100748] Tue, 28 October 2008 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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System Restore, if you made an image. If not, well......
Personally, I just haven't seen any issues with SP3 on the machines I have
chosen to install it to. I will not install it to my Paris box, that's still
at SP1 and staying there 'til it dies..
FWIW

AA


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:490718f0@linux...
>
> How did you remove SP3 and go back to SP2 if that's possible
>
> Reason I ask is we're looking at a used laptop with SP3 on it and I'd like
> to havethe option of going to SP2
>
> Don
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100756 is a reply to message #100734] Tue, 28 October 2008 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Cloud computing is a general concept, an industry term, and has been for at
least the past two years. It didn't originate with Apple or Microsoft.

Chuck

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Here's a glimpse of where they are going, looks kind of familiar:
>
>Microsoft unveils `cloud computing' product
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20081027/D942UOPG0.html
>
>How original, the concept of a cloud, a place to store and host all your
>media, I wonder where they got that idea???
>
>Hmmmm... looks familiar:
>http://www.apple.com/mobileme/
>
>It looks like MS is going to start with Amazon to sell music, maybe they
>will call it ZuneTunes later.
>
>"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote:
>>SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been quite
>
>>so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to SP3 cause
>
>>it SO aint ready to go.
>>
>>FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't exect
>
>>to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is what
>
>>they are planning.
>>
>>WMW
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
>
>>> coming
>>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>>
>>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>>
>>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My guess
>>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
>
>>> piracy
>>> for their upcoming store.
>>>
>>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop
with
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100800 is a reply to message #100752] Thu, 30 October 2008 00:48 Go to previous message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Ms is going to take on Apple.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=23343&am p;pagtype=allchandate

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Doug Wellington <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>> Hmmmm... looks familiar:
>>> http://www.apple.com/mobileme/
>>
>>Yeah, well... Most of you who know me, know that I've been a mac user

>>for a few years. (I'm really an old Unix guy is what it is, and I like
>
>>BSD unix better than Linux.)
>>
>>I think that MobileME has been one of the most anticipated, yet the most
>
>>bungled, products that Apple has developed. On top of the crappy web
>>mail interface, the increased SPAM, and all the system downtime, I
>>personally think that "me.com" is the most pretentious, selfish, B.S.
>>name for a website, and I will never use it for my email or web addresses...
>>
>>How's that? :)
>>
>>Doug
>>
>>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>I thought the cloud name and concept was childish and rather insulting to
>the intelligence of Mac users. Apparently MS thinks the name and concept
>is worth copying. Lol! Once again, I think Apple is going in some wrong
>directions, like canning FireWire and cutting down the Power/features on
>the white MacBooks. In the end they will get the software straitened out,
>but to put out buggy crap software sure reminds me of Microsoft.
>
Re: OT - but interesting (to me anyway) [message #100801 is a reply to message #100748] Wed, 29 October 2008 23:35 Go to previous message
xpam_m is currently offline  xpam_m   UNITED STATES
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Junior Member
Don, I did a rollback or an uninstall. I can't remember which. Seems like
there is an option in the SP setup to keep old files in the eventuality of a
removal. If your SP3 install didn't take this option, it may be the case
that you cannot remove it. Check your add/remove programs for SP3. If it
is there, I don't see why you couldn't just do an uninstall.

As Erling pointed out... I am a pervasive ghoster. I would, if I were you,
GHOST the currect SP3 OS before doing the SP3 removal/uninstall.

Mark


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:490718f0@linux...
> Hey Mark
>
> How did you remove SP3 and go back to SP2 if that's possible
>
> Reason I ask is we're looking at a used laptop with SP3 on it and I'd like
> to havethe option of going to SP2
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_m@avidrecording> wrote in message
> news:49060b47@linux...
>> SP3 came off my box as fast as it went on. OMG.... I haven't been
>> quite so happy to remove something as that in YEARS!!! Just say NO to
>> SP3 cause it SO aint ready to go.
>>
>> FWIW, MS is really deeply committed to live.com right now, I wouldn't
>> exect to see a ZuneTunes store.com for att leasta year or more IF that is
>> what they are planning.
>>
>> WMW
>>
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:49059d98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I decided to try Windows XP SP3 on my new install. Check out what keeps
>>> coming
>>> up in the debugger over and over and over again that I never saw in SP2.
>>>
>>> SetContentId drmRights.CopyProtect=0
>>>
>>> So, who else thinks that Microsoft is planning their own iTunes? My
>>> guess
>>> is they're trying to lock down all Windows boxes to preemptively fight
>>> piracy
>>> for their upcoming store.
>>>
>>> PARIS works fine for me in SP3, but if I could do it again, I'd stop
>>> with
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
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