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| Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76088] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 08:14  |
LaMont
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Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My search
for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
1) Soundscape system
2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
5) Scope II Platform..
Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the future
of DSP DAW.
Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76107 is a reply to message #76088] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 14:08  |
LaMont
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Ok.. I just learn that that Fairlight Dream plugin platform uses the Scope
DSP plugins..In addition, being able to ue both native and DSP powered VST
plugins as well..
Folks, this is some really good stuff.
For the longest of times(3 years) I have have been sitting on the fence abnout
jumping in a full-blow Pt-HD rig/ with mixing controller. The studio where
I work has 2 HD setups, but my personal studio uses Paris & Nuendo, along
with PT-M-powered, summed to a soundcraft Ghost (56 channels) analog mixer.
Great sound, but I want a One-Stop-Solution.
I'm thinking that the Fairlight path offers what I've been harping on:
-Slick Digital Mixer (Eqs &Comps/gates/Limiters)
-With built-in high-track count audio Recorder.
-Killer editing
-Intuative layout
-Ability to use 3rd party plugins
-ONE VENDOR!!! (smile)
1(one) Crystal Core technology is equlivalent to 8 HD accel cards!!! What
if you were to use 2??? Yikes!!!!
This i the 'breakthrough ' in breaking the current offerings, even with the
just announced 'quad-core' processors.
I'm jacked.!!!
-
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My search
>for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>
>1) Soundscape system
>2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
>4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
>5) Scope II Platform..
>
>Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the future
>of DSP DAW.
>
>Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>
> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76110 is a reply to message #76109] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 14:37 |
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I'm hearing 18k to start..So, maybe 30-40k might be realistic for the configuration
I'm wanting..
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>I'm thinking that the Fairlight path offers what I've been harping on:
>>
>>-Slick Digital Mixer (Eqs &Comps/gates/Limiters)
>>-With built-in high-track count audio Recorder.
>>-Killer editing
>>-Intuative layout
>>-Ability to use 3rd party plugins
>>-ONE VENDOR!!! (smile)
>>
>>1(one) Crystal Core technology is equlivalent to 8 HD accel cards!!! What
>>if you were to use 2??? Yikes!!!!
>>
>>This i the 'breakthrough ' in breaking the current offerings, even with
>the
>>just announced 'quad-core' processors.
>>
>>I'm jacked.!!!
>
>And this bad boy costs how much, again?
>
>Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76114 is a reply to message #76111] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 16:23 |
LaMont
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#1 Hey Neil, although I use PT (aka slow tools), I don't want to invest this
kind of Money into digi.
#2 I got quoted(good price) form our Sweetwater rep a PT HD-2 accel, with
Control 24, apogee AD16x/DA16x.Blah Plugs galour..
almost 30k.(27k) to be exact.
3) If I need to do the "yes" I have PT. I do have the 96(48track stero) version..
4) But, I want to go beyond PT-HD and a cool all-in one solution.
#5 My second choice is the Neundo/ Euphopnics route. A grat setup, but you're
at the mercy of your computer..Native.which is not bad, but, I want a DSP
solution..
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>OK, so here's a question - why not go with PTHD then? That way
>you could actually spend LESS and still be able to say "yes"
>when people call your studio & ask: "Do you have Pro-Tools?"
>instead of trying to convince them that your kung-fu is better?
>
>Easier for compatibility's sake to - import/export & all that.
>
>Not that I'm trying to sell you on PT, but I'm just curious.
>
>Neil
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>"LaMont" <JJDPRO@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>I'm hearing 18k to start..So, maybe 30-40k might be realistic for the configuration
>>I'm wanting..
>>
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>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>I'm thinking that the Fairlight path offers what I've been harping on:
>>>>
>>>>-Slick Digital Mixer (Eqs &Comps/gates/Limiters)
>>>>-With built-in high-track count audio Recorder.
>>>>-Killer editing
>>>>-Intuative layout
>>>>-Ability to use 3rd party plugins
>>>>-ONE VENDOR!!! (smile)
>>>>
>>>>1(one) Crystal Core technology is equlivalent to 8 HD accel cards!!!
What
>>>>if you were to use 2??? Yikes!!!!
>>>>
>>>>This i the 'breakthrough ' in breaking the current offerings, even with
>>>the
>>>>just announced 'quad-core' processors.
>>>>
>>>>I'm jacked.!!!
>>>
>>>And this bad boy costs how much, again?
>>>
>>>Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76117 is a reply to message #76114] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 17:50 |
Nappy
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LaMont,
What does the Euphonix Control surface go for?
respect
Nappy
"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>#1 Hey Neil, although I use PT (aka slow tools), I don't want to invest
this
>kind of Money into digi.
>
>#2 I got quoted(good price) form our Sweetwater rep a PT HD-2 accel, with
>Control 24, apogee AD16x/DA16x.Blah Plugs galour..
>almost 30k.(27k) to be exact.
>
>3) If I need to do the "yes" I have PT. I do have the 96(48track stero)
version..
>4) But, I want to go beyond PT-HD and a cool all-in one solution.
>
>#5 My second choice is the Neundo/ Euphopnics route. A grat setup, but you're
>at the mercy of your computer..Native.which is not bad, but, I want a DSP
>solution..
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>>OK, so here's a question - why not go with PTHD then? That way
>>you could actually spend LESS and still be able to say "yes"
>>when people call your studio & ask: "Do you have Pro-Tools?"
>>instead of trying to convince them that your kung-fu is better?
>>
>>Easier for compatibility's sake to - import/export & all that.
>>
>>Not that I'm trying to sell you on PT, but I'm just curious.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <JJDPRO@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm hearing 18k to start..So, maybe 30-40k might be realistic for the
configuration
>>>I'm wanting..
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>I'm thinking that the Fairlight path offers what I've been harping on:
>>>>>
>>>>>-Slick Digital Mixer (Eqs &Comps/gates/Limiters)
>>>>>-With built-in high-track count audio Recorder.
>>>>>-Killer editing
>>>>>-Intuative layout
>>>>>-Ability to use 3rd party plugins
>>>>>-ONE VENDOR!!! (smile)
>>>>>
>>>>>1(one) Crystal Core technology is equlivalent to 8 HD accel cards!!!
>What
>>>>>if you were to use 2??? Yikes!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>This i the 'breakthrough ' in breaking the current offerings, even with
>>>>the
>>>>>just announced 'quad-core' processors.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm jacked.!!!
>>>>
>>>>And this bad boy costs how much, again?
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>
>>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76118 is a reply to message #76116] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 17:54 |
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itls great..on my dual opteronpc, it's stable as any daw app I have including
Nuendo. It' just working on a HD setup..Yes,I purchased the 16 track expansion
along with killer plugs thrown in..
"Nei" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>#2 I got quoted(good price) form our Sweetwater rep a PT HD-2 accel, with
>Control 24, apogee AD16x/DA16x.Blah Plugs galour..
>almost 30k.(27k) to be exact.
>
>OK, point taken, but you can get into HD for far less than a
>loaded system like you're talking about.
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>>3) If I need to do the "yes" I have PT. I do have the 96(48track stero)
>version..
>
>What is that? LE with that expansion pack thingy? How does that
>work out for you? Is it decent or????
>
>Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76119 is a reply to message #76118] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 18:08 |
Neil
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"lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>itls great..on my dual opteronpc, it's stable as any daw app I have including
>Nuendo. It' just working on a HD setup..Yes,I purchased the 16 track expansion
>along with killer plugs thrown in..
The big issue I have with PT now (it USED to be that I thought
it sounded like ass, but the new convertors rock, and I think
they've definitely improved the ITB summing - judging from the
few mixes I've heard that I know were done ITB), is that you're
locked-in to Digiblah stuff from front to back... I like those
HD convertors, but I don't like 'em $3,000 better than the
RME's I have right now, for example. If I could get away with
just buying an HD Core card, I'd be there as we speak.
You're still summing in Native, essentially, with an LE system,
though, right? Those aren't DSP summing, are they?
Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76123 is a reply to message #76117] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 20:34 |
LaMont
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Hi Nappy,
the MC-5 conroller goes for 20k list, but i hear that the street price is
around 13-15k..Then, about 8k per set(bucket) of faders.
BrianT and the his staff at that setup..
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>LaMont,
>What does the Euphonix Control surface go for?
>
>respect
>Nappy
>
>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>#1 Hey Neil, although I use PT (aka slow tools), I don't want to invest
>this
>>kind of Money into digi.
>>
>>#2 I got quoted(good price) form our Sweetwater rep a PT HD-2 accel, with
>>Control 24, apogee AD16x/DA16x.Blah Plugs galour..
>>almost 30k.(27k) to be exact.
>>
>>3) If I need to do the "yes" I have PT. I do have the 96(48track stero)
>version..
>>4) But, I want to go beyond PT-HD and a cool all-in one solution.
>>
>>#5 My second choice is the Neundo/ Euphopnics route. A grat setup, but
you're
>>at the mercy of your computer..Native.which is not bad, but, I want a DSP
>>solution..
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OK, so here's a question - why not go with PTHD then? That way
>>>you could actually spend LESS and still be able to say "yes"
>>>when people call your studio & ask: "Do you have Pro-Tools?"
>>>instead of trying to convince them that your kung-fu is better?
>>>
>>>Easier for compatibility's sake to - import/export & all that.
>>>
>>>Not that I'm trying to sell you on PT, but I'm just curious.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <JJDPRO@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'm hearing 18k to start..So, maybe 30-40k might be realistic for the
>configuration
>>>>I'm wanting..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>I'm thinking that the Fairlight path offers what I've been harping
on:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Slick Digital Mixer (Eqs &Comps/gates/Limiters)
>>>>>>-With built-in high-track count audio Recorder.
>>>>>>-Killer editing
>>>>>>-Intuative layout
>>>>>>-Ability to use 3rd party plugins
>>>>>>-ONE VENDOR!!! (smile)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1(one) Crystal Core technology is equlivalent to 8 HD accel cards!!!
>>What
>>>>>>if you were to use 2??? Yikes!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This i the 'breakthrough ' in breaking the current offerings, even
with
>>>>>the
>>>>>>just announced 'quad-core' processors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm jacked.!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>And this bad boy costs how much, again?
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System: Uses the Scope DSP Platform for Plugins..WOW!! [message #76125 is a reply to message #76119] |
Fri, 17 November 2006 20:41 |
LaMont
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No Neil, I'm summing via analog 56 channel soundcraft Ghost..Only ITB summing
I do is with Paris.AND even Paris sounds better summed thru the mixer..
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>itls great..on my dual opteronpc, it's stable as any daw app I have including
>>Nuendo. It' just working on a HD setup..Yes,I purchased the 16 track expansion
>>along with killer plugs thrown in..
>
>The big issue I have with PT now (it USED to be that I thought
>it sounded like ass, but the new convertors rock, and I think
>they've definitely improved the ITB summing - judging from the
>few mixes I've heard that I know were done ITB), is that you're
>locked-in to Digiblah stuff from front to back... I like those
>HD convertors, but I don't like 'em $3,000 better than the
>RME's I have right now, for example. If I could get away with
>just buying an HD Core card, I'd be there as we speak.
>
>You're still summing in Native, essentially, with an LE system,
>though, right? Those aren't DSP summing, are they?
>
>Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76132 is a reply to message #76126] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 07:21 |
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So, DJ... Are you basically doing the same thing you were doing before w/
Paris and Cubase, but w/ the Pulsar stuff? Have you tried the UAD-1 FX in
the Pulsar system yet?
Gantt
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>La Mont,
>
>I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with Paris
>ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>
>I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have created. Also,
>I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing to/from my digipatch
>digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right now but other than that,
I
>think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this thing sounds
>great and so far is extremely stable.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Deej
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>
>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My
>search
>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>
>> 1) Soundscape system
>> 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
>> 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
>> 5) Scope II Platform..
>>
>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the
>future
>> of DSP DAW.
>>
>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>
>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76134 is a reply to message #76132] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 07:40 |
DJ
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Gantt,
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:455f16cc$1@linux...
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> So, DJ... Are you basically doing the same thing you were doing before w/
> Paris and Cubase, but w/ the Pulsar stuff?
Yes.
Have you tried the UAD-1 FX in
> the Pulsar system yet?
the Pulsar system doesn't allow VST Fx or instruments. those have to be used
within a VST host.
>
> Gantt
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >La Mont,
> >
> >I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with
Paris
> >ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
> >
> >I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have created.
Also,
> >I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing to/from my digipatch
> >digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right now but other than that,
> I
> >think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this thing
sounds
> >great and so far is extremely stable.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My
> >search
> >> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
> >>
> >> 1) Soundscape system
> >> 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
> >> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
> >> 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
> >> 5) Scope II Platform..
> >>
> >> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the
> >future
> >> of DSP DAW.
> >>
> >> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
> >>
> >> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76139 is a reply to message #76138] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 12:05 |
Dimitrios
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DJ,
For Cubase with scope:
Under software I/O window there are asio destinations and sends.
Choose 64 floating asio 2 that can have up to 64 routings.
Now the destination asio sends audio to cubase which shows inside SX by simply
routing.
Why is it so difficult ?
Just think the asio as inputs and outputs of SX !
Let me know where are you stuck...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Yes. I'm almost in sonic nirvana.
>
>I've got Cubase synced to Paris ADAT using the Creamware sync plate. This
>little gem seems to allow timeline chase by Cubase while still allowing
both
>platforms to sync to WC. This always created a trainwreck with the RME
>cards.
>
>Right now this system is rock solid stable.
>
>Right now I'm getting ready to give Gary a call.I can't seem to grok how
to
>get external FX set up between the Scope environment and Cubase SX. Once
I
>get that happening, I'll have my basic mix scenario recreated. This is
>something I'm very comfortable with. After that, I'm going to get outside
>the box a bit and have some fun with the Creamware routing. It's possible
to
>do all sorts of stuff using both direct connections between the Pulsar ADAT
>I/O and the Paris ADAT I/O while also routing the same Cubase chanels to
the
>Creamware mixer, grouping them, applying various goodies and returning them
>in parallel to Paris tracks or on inserts. No'mo submix limitations for
>groups.
>
> I can't for the life of me figure out how to get external FX set up in
>Cubase/Creamware but I'll get it figured out.soon............I need to get
>the 16 analog I/O and 4 x stereo pair of ADAT I/O configured for mono and
>stereo external insert and send FX.
>
>;o)
>
>;o)
>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:455f399c$1@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >La Mont,
>> >
>> >I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with
>Paris
>> >ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>>
>> So, Deej... are you running one PC for Paris, and another for
>> Cubase/Pulsar?
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76152 is a reply to message #76139] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 20:53 |
DJ
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It's working beautifully Dimitrios. I'm glad I listened to you and bought
this system
If I ever decide to totally abandon Paris, this system should keep me happy
as a native rig, and in the meantime, it's the most stable rig I've used
when interfacing with Paris on a second computer.
;o)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:455f597b@linux...
>
> DJ,
> For Cubase with scope:
> Under software I/O window there are asio destinations and sends.
> Choose 64 floating asio 2 that can have up to 64 routings.
> Now the destination asio sends audio to cubase which shows inside SX by
simply
> routing.
> Why is it so difficult ?
> Just think the asio as inputs and outputs of SX !
> Let me know where are you stuck...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >Yes. I'm almost in sonic nirvana.
> >
> >I've got Cubase synced to Paris ADAT using the Creamware sync plate. This
> >little gem seems to allow timeline chase by Cubase while still allowing
> both
> >platforms to sync to WC. This always created a trainwreck with the RME
> >cards.
> >
> >Right now this system is rock solid stable.
> >
> >Right now I'm getting ready to give Gary a call.I can't seem to grok how
> to
> >get external FX set up between the Scope environment and Cubase SX. Once
> I
> >get that happening, I'll have my basic mix scenario recreated. This is
> >something I'm very comfortable with. After that, I'm going to get outside
> >the box a bit and have some fun with the Creamware routing. It's possible
> to
> >do all sorts of stuff using both direct connections between the Pulsar
ADAT
> >I/O and the Paris ADAT I/O while also routing the same Cubase chanels to
> the
> >Creamware mixer, grouping them, applying various goodies and returning
them
> >in parallel to Paris tracks or on inserts. No'mo submix limitations for
> >groups.
> >
> > I can't for the life of me figure out how to get external FX set up in
> >Cubase/Creamware but I'll get it figured out.soon............I need to
get
> >the 16 analog I/O and 4 x stereo pair of ADAT I/O configured for mono and
> >stereo external insert and send FX.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >;o)
> >"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:455f399c$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >> >La Mont,
> >> >
> >> >I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with
> >Paris
> >> >ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
> >>
> >> So, Deej... are you running one PC for Paris, and another for
> >> Cubase/Pulsar?
> >>
> >> Neil
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76153 is a reply to message #76126] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 22:24 |
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That's good news DJ..
For me, I'm going for both eye-candy, & killer tactile interface..With on-aboard
recording. Like you, I've been on this journey for 3 years now searching
for a Killer Paris replacement.
I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over 30k
for a rig 2 years ago.
I see now, that even with great multi-core processors, theres nothing like
a dedeicaed DSP based DAW. Sorry Native guys and gals, but it's true.. Yes,
you can ge the job done, but there's always workarounds and the likes..
When I found ou that Fairlight was in fact using Scope based plugins for
their core plugins, that sealed the deal. In fact, the old Fairlight DSP
system (DREAM 1) was based on the scope pro 15 dsp's..
But, now with their new Crystal core technology, they can now sel a rig that's
half the cost and 20 times the power..
To say that I'm jacked is an understatement. Along with the DreamII rig,
I'll have a Dual Opteron PC + Magma for rewired apps(acid), Giga, Neundo..All
jacked into the Dream II Core..
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>La Mont,
>
>I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with Paris
>ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>
>I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have created. Also,
>I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing to/from my digipatch
>digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right now but other than that,
I
>think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this thing sounds
>great and so far is extremely stable.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Deej
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>
>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My
>search
>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>
>> 1) Soundscape system
>> 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
>> 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
>> 5) Scope II Platform..
>>
>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the
>future
>> of DSP DAW.
>>
>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>
>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76155 is a reply to message #76153] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 23:33 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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LaMont, that sounds amazing.
Deej, if your system insists on being stable, what're we gonna talk
about around here? ;^) Glad the Pulsar is working out!
In my neck o' the woods, I'm still waiting for the NI Komplete 4 update.
It's coming on the slow boat from Germany - should finally be here this
week. Hopefully it won't do anything to rock the boat, Logic Pro has
been very reliable since the last update.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
LaMont wrote:
> That's good news DJ.. For me, I'm going for both eye-candy, & killer
> tactile interface..With on-aboard recording. Like you, I've been on
> this journey for 3 years now searching for a Killer Paris
> replacement.
>
> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over
> 30k for a rig 2 years ago.
>
> I see now, that even with great multi-core processors, theres nothing
> like a dedeicaed DSP based DAW. Sorry Native guys and gals, but it's
> true.. Yes, you can ge the job done, but there's always workarounds
> and the likes..
>
> When I found ou that Fairlight was in fact using Scope based plugins
> for their core plugins, that sealed the deal. In fact, the old
> Fairlight DSP system (DREAM 1) was based on the scope pro 15 dsp's..
> But, now with their new Crystal core technology, they can now sel a
> rig that's half the cost and 20 times the power..
>
> To say that I'm jacked is an understatement. Along with the DreamII
> rig, I'll have a Dual Opteron PC + Magma for rewired apps(acid),
> Giga, Neundo..All jacked into the Dream II Core..
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> La Mont,
>>
>> I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT
>> with Paris ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>>
>> I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have
>> created. Also, I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing
>> to/from my digipatch digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right
>> now but other than that,
> I
>> think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this
>> thing sounds great and so far is extremely stable.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>> news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional
>>> solution. My
>> search
>>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>>
>>> 1) Soundscape system 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/
>>> Constellation XT 5) Scope II Platform..
>>>
>>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is
>>> the
>> future
>>> of DSP DAW.
>>>
>>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>>
>>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76159 is a reply to message #76153] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 06:41 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Lamont,
It is my understanding from Fairlight that the CC-1 is not yet integrated
with any other DAW software or plugins. It is currently only sold with the
SX20 interface and Satellite AV controller with no plans to separate them.
You would have to run their editor to use any of the plugins and stream
other apps into it as audio streams - as you would with rewiring Reason into
Nuendo. While that is great for post houses that only need a few features
from the native DAW, Reason, or other plugins, to me it has yet to
materialize into a fully integrated solution for music production (e.g.
Nuendo or other DAWs and plugins being developed to run all or part of the
audio streaming through the CC-1, at least some key VST plugins ported to
run locally on the CC-1 dsp, *and* the CC-1 being sold standalone).
This is one I've been watching for a while and that's what I've been told by
a Fairlight rep. That may be exactly what you need, but for me it needs buy
from 3rd party companies to be a viable addition to my setup.
Regards,
Dedric
On 11/18/06 11:24 PM, in article 455fea86$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's good news DJ..
> For me, I'm going for both eye-candy, & killer tactile interface..With
> on-aboard
> recording. Like you, I've been on this journey for 3 years now searching
> for a Killer Paris replacement.
>
> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over 30k
> for a rig 2 years ago.
>
> I see now, that even with great multi-core processors, theres nothing like
> a dedeicaed DSP based DAW. Sorry Native guys and gals, but it's true.. Yes,
> you can ge the job done, but there's always workarounds and the likes..
>
> When I found ou that Fairlight was in fact using Scope based plugins for
> their core plugins, that sealed the deal. In fact, the old Fairlight DSP
> system (DREAM 1) was based on the scope pro 15 dsp's..
> But, now with their new Crystal core technology, they can now sel a rig that's
> half the cost and 20 times the power..
>
> To say that I'm jacked is an understatement. Along with the DreamII rig,
> I'll have a Dual Opteron PC + Magma for rewired apps(acid), Giga, Neundo..All
> jacked into the Dream II Core..
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> La Mont,
>>
>> I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with Paris
>> ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>>
>> I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have created. Also,
>> I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing to/from my digipatch
>> digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right now but other than that,
> I
>> think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this thing sounds
>> great and so far is extremely stable.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My
>> search
>>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>>
>>> 1) Soundscape system
>>> 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
>>> 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
>>> 5) Scope II Platform..
>>>
>>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the
>> future
>>> of DSP DAW.
>>>
>>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>>
>>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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