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Please god..........

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
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Gee, it only took 12 years to realize it was bleeding the culture?

Rich

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> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80954 is a reply to message #80944] Fri, 02 March 2007 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:03:55 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:

>Please god..........
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45e7cb3b$1@linux...
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>

Maybe there's hope for America's youth, after all....

And this is not a racist comment. It's a comment based on seeing too
many kids dressed like drug dealers and gang bangers, listening to
music that promotes violence against damn near everyone, prostitution,
and drug use.

pab
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80959 is a reply to message #80954] Fri, 02 March 2007 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:03:55 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Please god..........
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45e7cb3b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>>
>
>Maybe there's hope for America's youth, after all....
>
>And this is not a racist comment. It's a comment based on seeing too
>many kids dressed like drug dealers and gang bangers, listening to
>music that promotes violence against damn near everyone, prostitution,
>and drug use.

Maybe kids & young adults are just tired of watching MTV &
having to hear that half the lyric in each rap song consist of a
single word: "<beep>". lol

Neil
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80961 is a reply to message #80953] Fri, 02 March 2007 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just think the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of hearing
a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing instruments that
were recorded by someone else. As far as the lyric and message go, I don't
listen to it enough to know if there are positive messages along with the
negative stuff that is so heavily publicized ...........and this is because
................the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
instruments that were recorded by someone else.

;o)

"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Gee, it only took 12 years to realize it was bleeding the culture?
>
> Rich
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45e7cb3b$1@linux...
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>
>
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80966 is a reply to message #80961] Fri, 02 March 2007 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I just think the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of hearing

>a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing instruments that

>were recorded by someone else. As far as the lyric and message go, I don't

>listen to it enough to know if there are positive messages along with the

>negative stuff that is so heavily publicized ...........and this is because

>...............the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
>hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
>instruments that were recorded by someone else.
>
>;o)
>

Basically I agree.


I am not a big fan of rap and I am not at all happy with the negative effect
the hip-hop culture has had….but….remember who is doing the reporting here
- Fox News.


The following info is from the “Nielsen Music 2006 Year-End Music Industry
Report.”
I wouldn’t be too quick to cry over the poor record companies just yet.


It is true that album sales for rap were down in 2006 about 20% from an all
time high in 2004. But digital sales (downloads) were considerably higher,
and the total dollars were about the same in 2006 – an all-time high!

Justin Timberlake's "Sexyback" and Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" were among industry
leaders.

Rap and R&B combined (the report does not break out hip-hop, but most of
the R&B numbers are in fact hip-hop), are the biggest sellers killing the
combined sales of Country, Classical, Jazz and Metal. This is in the down
year.

Year End Factoids:
Overall music purchases in 2006 exceeded the 1 Billion sales plateau for
the
second consecutive year; 1.2 billion (2006) vs. 1 billion (2005).
The last two weeks of 2006, music sales exceeded 47.4 million (week ending
12-
24) and 45.0 million (week ending 12/31), representing the 2 biggest weeks
in the
history of Nielsen SoundScan. The previous record was Christmas week 2005
with 44.7 million music purchases.
More than 580 million digital tracks were purchased during 2006; an increase
of
65% over 2005.
In the final reporting week of 2006 (12/25/06 – 12/31/06) the following sales
records were broken:
-- Digital track sales blew away the previous sales record with
02/07/2007 01:29 AM 2006 U.S. Music Purchases Exceed 1 Billion Sales
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a new record high of 30.1 million track sales (previous
record was 19.9 million, week of 12/24-1/1/05).
-- Digital album sales reached the 1 million plateau for the
first time with sales exceeding 1.2 million (previous record
was 12/24/06 with 855,000 sales).
-- Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" track sets the mark for the
biggest selling week for an individual Digital Track, with
sales of 269,000 (previous record was Justin Timberlake's
"Sexyback" at 250,000 sales).
-- Three different songs broke the previous mark for the
biggest selling week for a Digital Song (combining all
versions of the same song) with Fergie's "Fergalicious"
setting the new record with sales of 295,000. Both Beyonce's
"Irreplaceable" (269,000) and Akon's "Smack That" (252,000)
had greater sales than the previous record set by Justin
Timberlake's "Sexyback" (previous record was 250,000 sales).

ITunes store - 2 Billion downloads so far.

I hope to hear more real music and songs in 2007. R&B, Rock etc.

Gene
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80972 is a reply to message #80966] Fri, 02 March 2007 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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Gene,

As far as Fox news is concerned, it's just part of the partisan, agenda
driven circus. It doesn't even come close to the arrogance of a news service
that deigns itself to spoonfeed us "all the news that's fit to print", as if
we should bow down to their judgmental largesse as far as what is "fit ot
print". There isn't an objective press anymore IMHO..hasn't been for 40
years......... so to get the whole picture, I think it's best to watch all
news sources.

Regards,

Deej

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:45e8385f$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I just think the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
>>hearing
>
>>a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing instruments
>>that
>
>>were recorded by someone else. As far as the lyric and message go, I don't
>
>>listen to it enough to know if there are positive messages along with the
>
>>negative stuff that is so heavily publicized ...........and this is
>>because
>
>>...............the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
>>hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
>>instruments that were recorded by someone else.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>
> Basically I agree.
>
>
> I am not a big fan of rap and I am not at all happy with the negative
> effect
> the hip-hop culture has had..but..remember who is doing the reporting here
> - Fox News.
>
>
> The following info is from the "Nielsen Music 2006 Year-End Music Industry
> Report."
> I wouldn't be too quick to cry over the poor record companies just yet.
>
>
> It is true that album sales for rap were down in 2006 about 20% from an
> all
> time high in 2004. But digital sales (downloads) were considerably higher,
> and the total dollars were about the same in 2006 - an all-time high!
>
> Justin Timberlake's "Sexyback" and Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" were among
> industry
> leaders.
>
> Rap and R&B combined (the report does not break out hip-hop, but most of
> the R&B numbers are in fact hip-hop), are the biggest sellers killing the
> combined sales of Country, Classical, Jazz and Metal. This is in the down
> year.
>
> Year End Factoids:
> Overall music purchases in 2006 exceeded the 1 Billion sales plateau for
> the
> second consecutive year; 1.2 billion (2006) vs. 1 billion (2005).
> The last two weeks of 2006, music sales exceeded 47.4 million (week ending
> 12-
> 24) and 45.0 million (week ending 12/31), representing the 2 biggest weeks
> in the
> history of Nielsen SoundScan. The previous record was Christmas week 2005
> with 44.7 million music purchases.
> More than 580 million digital tracks were purchased during 2006; an
> increase
> of
> 65% over 2005.
> In the final reporting week of 2006 (12/25/06 - 12/31/06) the following
> sales
> records were broken:
> -- Digital track sales blew away the previous sales record with
> 02/07/2007 01:29 AM 2006 U.S. Music Purchases Exceed 1 Billion Sales
> Page 6 of 9
> http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?nd mViewId=news_view&newsId=20070104005813&newsLang=en
> a new record high of 30.1 million track sales (previous
> record was 19.9 million, week of 12/24-1/1/05).
> -- Digital album sales reached the 1 million plateau for the
> first time with sales exceeding 1.2 million (previous record
> was 12/24/06 with 855,000 sales).
> -- Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" track sets the mark for the
> biggest selling week for an individual Digital Track, with
> sales of 269,000 (previous record was Justin Timberlake's
> "Sexyback" at 250,000 sales).
> -- Three different songs broke the previous mark for the
> biggest selling week for a Digital Song (combining all
> versions of the same song) with Fergie's "Fergalicious"
> setting the new record with sales of 295,000. Both Beyonce's
> "Irreplaceable" (269,000) and Akon's "Smack That" (252,000)
> had greater sales than the previous record set by Justin
> Timberlake's "Sexyback" (previous record was 250,000 sales).
>
> ITunes store - 2 Billion downloads so far.
>
> I hope to hear more real music and songs in 2007. R&B, Rock etc.
>
> Gene
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80974 is a reply to message #80943] Fri, 02 March 2007 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html

NAMM reported that musical instruments sales were up and DJ equipment was
on its way down. For five years DJ Equipment sales were higher than MI sales.
I don't know how this will effect studios. It would be nice to see more
musicianship back in popular music.
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80986 is a reply to message #80959] Fri, 02 March 2007 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Agreed!!!...This is very positive news ..

"Neil" <OIOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:03:55 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Please god..........
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45e7cb3b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>>>
>>
>>Maybe there's hope for America's youth, after all....
>>
>>And this is not a racist comment. It's a comment based on seeing too
>>many kids dressed like drug dealers and gang bangers, listening to
>>music that promotes violence against damn near everyone, prostitution,
>>and drug use.
>
>Maybe kids & young adults are just tired of watching MTV &
>having to hear that half the lyric in each rap song consist of a
>single word: "<beep>". lol
>
>Neil
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80990 is a reply to message #80943] Fri, 02 March 2007 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html

You know, the few times I've been able to stomach listening to rap made me
realize how truly inspirational and uplifting death metal can be...

Doug ("...creeping...rusted...meat. Truly the heart and soul...")

http://www.parisfaqs.com


Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80997 is a reply to message #80990] Fri, 02 March 2007 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45e7cb3b$1@linux...
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>
>You know, the few times I've been able to stomach listening to rap made
me
>realize how truly inspirational and uplifting death metal can be...
>
>Doug ("...creeping...rusted...meat. Truly the heart and soul...")
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>

I love your sense of humor Doug! LOL
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #80998 is a reply to message #80974] Fri, 02 March 2007 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In the right hands turntables _are_ musical instruments. But hey, the world
certainly needs more crappy guitar players so I guess this is good news.


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>
>NAMM reported that musical instruments sales were up and DJ equipment was
>on its way down. For five years DJ Equipment sales were higher than MI
sales.
> I don't know how this will effect studios. It would be nice to see more
>musicianship back in popular music.
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #81005 is a reply to message #80998] Fri, 02 March 2007 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TCB wrote:
> In the right hands turntables _are_ musical instruments. But hey, the world
> certainly needs more crappy guitar players so I guess this is good news.

Don't discount the musicality of a common wood saw when bent in an S
shape and played with a violin bow, saw that at a symphony concert and
hey, it worked.

I saw a band do a vacuum cleaner solo once, it wasn't any more exciting
than a turntable solo but the stage was cleaner afterwards.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>> NAMM reported that musical instruments sales were up and DJ equipment was
>> on its way down. For five years DJ Equipment sales were higher than MI
> sales.
>> I don't know how this will effect studios. It would be nice to see more
>> musicianship back in popular music.
>
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #81009 is a reply to message #80990] Fri, 02 March 2007 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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ROTFL!!!!

;oD

"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message
news:45e86457@linux...
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45e7cb3b$1@linux...
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
>
> You know, the few times I've been able to stomach listening to rap made me
> realize how truly inspirational and uplifting death metal can be...
>
> Doug ("...creeping...rusted...meat. Truly the heart and soul...")
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #81011 is a reply to message #80943] Fri, 02 March 2007 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what's rap?

On 2 Mar 2007 17:59:07 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255606,00.html
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #81023 is a reply to message #80990] Fri, 02 March 2007 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:

>You know, the few times I've been able to stomach listening to rap made
me
>realize how truly inspirational and uplifting death metal can be...

Yeah, most of it makes me prefer academic classical music from
Po-Mo music departments...

Yikess!! That hurt to even type!

DC
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #81034 is a reply to message #80966] Fri, 02 March 2007 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL!!

................the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
instruments that were recorded by someone else.

................the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
instruments that were recorded by someone else.

................the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
instruments that were recorded by someone else.

................the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
instruments that were recorded by someone else.


"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:45e8385f$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >I just think the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
hearing
>
> >a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing instruments
that
>
> >were recorded by someone else. As far as the lyric and message go, I
don't
>
> >listen to it enough to know if there are positive messages along with the
>
> >negative stuff that is so heavily publicized ...........and this is
because
>
> >...............the music is boring and unimaginative after 30 years of
> >hearing a beat made from a machine and/or a loop and other backing
> >instruments that were recorded by someone else.
> >
> >;o)
> >
>
> Basically I agree.
>
>
> I am not a big fan of rap and I am not at all happy with the negative
effect
> the hip-hop culture has had..but..remember who is doing the reporting here
> - Fox News.
>
>
> The following info is from the "Nielsen Music 2006 Year-End Music Industry
> Report."
> I wouldn't be too quick to cry over the poor record companies just yet.
>
>
> It is true that album sales for rap were down in 2006 about 20% from an
all
> time high in 2004. But digital sales (downloads) were considerably higher,
> and the total dollars were about the same in 2006 - an all-time high!
>
> Justin Timberlake's "Sexyback" and Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" were among
industry
> leaders.
>
> Rap and R&B combined (the report does not break out hip-hop, but most of
> the R&B numbers are in fact hip-hop), are the biggest sellers killing the
> combined sales of Country, Classical, Jazz and Metal. This is in the down
> year.
>
> Year End Factoids:
> Overall music purchases in 2006 exceeded the 1 Billion sales plateau for
> the
> second consecutive year; 1.2 billion (2006) vs. 1 billion (2005).
> The last two weeks of 2006, music sales exceeded 47.4 million (week ending
> 12-
> 24) and 45.0 million (week ending 12/31), representing the 2 biggest weeks
> in the
> history of Nielsen SoundScan. The previous record was Christmas week 2005
> with 44.7 million music purchases.
> More than 580 million digital tracks were purchased during 2006; an
increase
> of
> 65% over 2005.
> In the final reporting week of 2006 (12/25/06 - 12/31/06) the following
sales
> records were broken:
> -- Digital track sales blew away the previous sales record with
> 02/07/2007 01:29 AM 2006 U.S. Music Purchases Exceed 1 Billion Sales
> Page 6 of 9
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?nd mViewId=news_view&newsId=20070104005813&newsLang=en
> a new record high of 30.1 million track sales (previous
> record was 19.9 million, week of 12/24-1/1/05).
> -- Digital album sales reached the 1 million plateau for the
> first time with sales exceeding 1.2 million (previous record
> was 12/24/06 with 855,000 sales).
> -- Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" track sets the mark for the
> biggest selling week for an individual Digital Track, with
> sales of 269,000 (previous record was Justin Timberlake's
> "Sexyback" at 250,000 sales).
> -- Three different songs broke the previous mark for the
> biggest selling week for a Digital Song (combining all
> versions of the same song) with Fergie's "Fergalicious"
> setting the new record with sales of 295,000. Both Beyonce's
> "Irreplaceable" (269,000) and Akon's "Smack That" (252,000)
> had greater sales than the previous record set by Justin
> Timberlake's "Sexyback" (previous record was 250,000 sales).
>
> ITunes store - 2 Billion downloads so far.
>
> I hope to hear more real music and songs in 2007. R&B, Rock etc.
>
> Gene
Re: Sales of Rap Albums Take Stunning Nosedive [message #81035 is a reply to message #80943] Fri, 02 March 2007 16:49 Go to previous message
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What this genre needs is another SuperBowl Shuffle to get the masses behind
it.


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