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Paris install [message #102259] Fri, 23 January 2009 13:54 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.

I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
and COE more often than not.

I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
C:Paris for the Paris install
C:Paris for the subsystem install

The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
@ C:Paris\paris pro

If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
of the problem.

I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
all steps.

Tips for,
Tom
Re: Paris install [message #102260 is a reply to message #102259] Fri, 23 January 2009 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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I don't remember having any problems like that but I do remember letting
Paris install itself where it wanted. Then after all was working I moved the
whole wack over to it's new home in C\:Paris.

At least that's my recollection of things but in all fairness it was a while
ago and my memory of things computer is hazy at the best of times.

No doubt someone will pop in to help you

Don


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>
> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
> and COE more often than not.
>
> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
> C:Paris for the Paris install
> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>
> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>
> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
> of the problem.
>
> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
> all steps.
>
> Tips for,
> Tom
>
Re: Paris install [message #102261 is a reply to message #102260] Fri, 23 January 2009 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2007
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Don,

Sounds like a good plan. Mike said the same thing.
Maybe I'll just leave it in programs and forget about it.

So you'll direct the subsystem to: C:program files\ensoniq ?

Thanks,
Tom

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:497a452b@linux...
>I don't remember having any problems like that but I do remember letting
>Paris install itself where it wanted. Then after all was working I moved
>the whole wack over to it's new home in C\:Paris.
>
> At least that's my recollection of things but in all fairness it was a
> while ago and my memory of things computer is hazy at the best of times.
>
> No doubt someone will pop in to help you
>
> Don
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>
>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>> and COE more often than not.
>>
>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>
>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>
>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>> of the problem.
>>
>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>> all steps.
>>
>> Tips for,
>> Tom
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102262 is a reply to message #102261] Fri, 23 January 2009 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
Senior Member
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Don,
>
> Sounds like a good plan. Mike said the same thing.
> Maybe I'll just leave it in programs and forget about it.
>
> So you'll direct the subsystem to: C:program files\ensoniq ?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:497a452b@linux...
>
>>I don't remember having any problems like that but I do remember letting
>>Paris install itself where it wanted. Then after all was working I moved
>>the whole wack over to it's new home in C\:Paris.
>>
>>At least that's my recollection of things but in all fairness it was a
>>while ago and my memory of things computer is hazy at the best of times.
>>
>>No doubt someone will pop in to help you
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>
>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>
>>>I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>and COE more often than not.
>>>
>>>I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>
>>>The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>@ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>
>>>If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>of the problem.
>>>
>>>I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>all steps.
>>>
>>>Tips for,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Tom,

DOn't know if this helps, but I looked at my file structure and the
plugins are in c:\windows\system32\ensoniq\PlugIns. If I remember
correctly I did the following

Installed the Scherzo drivers
Installed the PAce Drivers
Installed Paris to c:\ParisPro
INstalled the effect subsystem, pointing at C:\ParisPro
Manually added Mike's effects to the c:\windows\system32\ensoniq\plugins
directory.


Everything worked great until I decided to add on more eds cards (from
6-8). I will be digging it out to address that soon (I hope). I did
experience an occasional COE but not after I removed the "offending
plugs" from early on (i.e. kickback).

Jeff
Re: Paris install [message #102263 is a reply to message #102259] Fri, 23 January 2009 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
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simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It puts
it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that from the
path.

AA

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>
> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
> and COE more often than not.
>
> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
> C:Paris for the Paris install
> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>
> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>
> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
> of the problem.
>
> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
> all steps.
>
> Tips for,
> Tom
>
Re: Paris install [message #102264 is a reply to message #102263] Fri, 23 January 2009 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:497a64c9$1@linux...
> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It
> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that
> from the path.
>
> AA


Bingo!

that's the missing brain cell


>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>
>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>> and COE more often than not.
>>
>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>
>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>
>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>> of the problem.
>>
>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>> all steps.
>>
>> Tips for,
>> Tom
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102266 is a reply to message #102263] Fri, 23 January 2009 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
install will work? There are two files with the same
name. They must have to overwrite the existing
ones.

I'll try it before I start all over again.

Thanks you guys.

Tom


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:497a64c9$1@linux...
> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It
> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that
> from the path.
>
> AA
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>
>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>> and COE more often than not.
>>
>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>
>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>
>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>> of the problem.
>>
>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>> all steps.
>>
>> Tips for,
>> Tom
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102276 is a reply to message #102266] Sat, 24 January 2009 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really notice
any difference.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>install will work? There are two files with the same
>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>ones.
>
>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>
>Thanks you guys.
>
>Tom
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It

>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that

>> from the path.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>
>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>
>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>
>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>
>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>> of the problem.
>>>
>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>> all steps.
>>>
>>> Tips for,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102285 is a reply to message #102276] Sat, 24 January 2009 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Paris is finally up and running all adats present
and accounted for. No probs yet.

Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.

No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.

Tom


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:497b3709$1@linux...
>
> Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
> I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really notice
> any difference.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>ones.
>>
>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>
>>Thanks you guys.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It
>
>>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that
>
>>> from the path.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>
>>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>
>>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>> of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>> all steps.
>>>>
>>>> Tips for,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102287 is a reply to message #102285] Sat, 24 January 2009 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2007
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I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
like these. Quadcore maybe?

Paris symptoms:

Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.

Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
in the mixer.

These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the system.
There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.

If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act normal
and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.

I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem before.

Dumbfoundedly yours,
Tom





"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
> Paris is finally up and running all adats present
> and accounted for. No probs yet.
>
> Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
> smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>
> No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>
>> Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>> I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really notice
>> any difference.
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>ones.
>>>
>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>
>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It
>>
>>>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that
>>
>>>> from the path.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>
>>>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>
>>>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>> of the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>> all steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tips for,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102290 is a reply to message #102287] Sat, 24 January 2009 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Are you starting a clean, from an image (Ghost, Acronis, etc...) on these
multiple tries or just removing/installing paris ?
I've in the past had a lot of trouble with the install/remove/install/remove
stuff. Lot of trouble. I'm guessing, but don't know, that something
is happening in the registry that is not good and/or confusing to Windows
and/or the paris app.
My best results have always been, install windows, strip MS crapware out I
don't need, update what I do need (hardware/software), then install paris
apps/patches/fx upgrades. I never turn on a port I don't need either, like
some of the USB ports, COM, LPT/Printer, etc..

AA


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497b9798$1@linux...
>I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
> like these. Quadcore maybe?
>
> Paris symptoms:
>
> Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
> One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
> Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.
>
> Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
> in the mixer.
>
> These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the system.
> There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.
>
> If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act normal
> and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.
>
> I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem before.
>
> Dumbfoundedly yours,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
>> Paris is finally up and running all adats present
>> and accounted for. No probs yet.
>>
>> Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
>> smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>>
>> No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>>> I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really
>>> notice
>>> any difference.
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>>ones.
>>>>
>>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install. It
>>>
>>>>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub that
>>>
>>>>> from the path.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>>> of the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>>> all steps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tips for,
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102291 is a reply to message #102290] Sat, 24 January 2009 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Aaron,

This install came from a Windows Restore point as you described.
It's all I had to go on. It looked pretty clean to the eye.
Who knows what's imbedded into the registry though?

This audio problem might just be a corrupt driver that I keep reloading?
It really seems like an easy fix if that's the case.

I am getting more than depressed about this now. It really
seems like an impossible goal to just get Windows and Paris
on this box. I have taken every step that is in print as well as
a few tips from you guys. Rebooting between every step.

This all stems from the Bios being obsolete. This is the supposed
fix for the problems I was having before. That fix is still an unknown.

I'll reinstall windows for a third time and tweak just a few things.

ass



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:497b9ec3$1@linux...
> Are you starting a clean, from an image (Ghost, Acronis, etc...) on these
> multiple tries or just removing/installing paris ?
> I've in the past had a lot of trouble with the
> install/remove/install/remove stuff. Lot of trouble. I'm guessing, but
> don't know, that something
> is happening in the registry that is not good and/or confusing to Windows
> and/or the paris app.
> My best results have always been, install windows, strip MS crapware out I
> don't need, update what I do need (hardware/software), then install paris
> apps/patches/fx upgrades. I never turn on a port I don't need either, like
> some of the USB ports, COM, LPT/Printer, etc..
>
> AA
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:497b9798$1@linux...
>>I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
>> like these. Quadcore maybe?
>>
>> Paris symptoms:
>>
>> Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
>> One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
>> Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.
>>
>> Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
>> in the mixer.
>>
>> These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the system.
>> There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.
>>
>> If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act normal
>> and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.
>>
>> I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem before.
>>
>> Dumbfoundedly yours,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
>>> Paris is finally up and running all adats present
>>> and accounted for. No probs yet.
>>>
>>> Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
>>> smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>>>
>>> No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>>>> I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really
>>>> notice
>>>> any difference.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>>>ones.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>>>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install.
>>>>>> It
>>>>
>>>>>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub
>>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>>> from the path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>>>> of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>>>> all steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tips for,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102292 is a reply to message #102291] Sat, 24 January 2009 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
I found a way around the problem. I'm not sure if it's
caused by my particular computer, new drivers, a
combination of the two, OR something I did in the process
of installing Paris. It is the only program installed and
was done so on a clean Windows only Restore point.

If when first booting Paris I play audio on all five submixes,
audio will be present in all other projects. If I don't do this
first, Paris will only have audio on Submix A. Weird as hell.
All EDS cards, Mecs and hardware are recognized though.

Some how I feel as if I conquered the beast. I now am
committed to having a default project which in itself can be evil.
Maybe this will change once a project has been opened
successfully in this comp. I'll test and report back.

No internal latency as was hoped for. Now to backup and
add some goodies.

Tom






"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497ba745$1@linux...
> Aaron,
>
> This install came from a Windows Restore point as you described.
> It's all I had to go on. It looked pretty clean to the eye.
> Who knows what's imbedded into the registry though?
>
> This audio problem might just be a corrupt driver that I keep reloading?
> It really seems like an easy fix if that's the case.
>
> I am getting more than depressed about this now. It really
> seems like an impossible goal to just get Windows and Paris
> on this box. I have taken every step that is in print as well as
> a few tips from you guys. Rebooting between every step.
>
> This all stems from the Bios being obsolete. This is the supposed
> fix for the problems I was having before. That fix is still an unknown.
>
> I'll reinstall windows for a third time and tweak just a few things.
>
> ass
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:497b9ec3$1@linux...
>> Are you starting a clean, from an image (Ghost, Acronis, etc...) on these
>> multiple tries or just removing/installing paris ?
>> I've in the past had a lot of trouble with the
>> install/remove/install/remove stuff. Lot of trouble. I'm guessing, but
>> don't know, that something
>> is happening in the registry that is not good and/or confusing to Windows
>> and/or the paris app.
>> My best results have always been, install windows, strip MS crapware out
>> I don't need, update what I do need (hardware/software), then install
>> paris apps/patches/fx upgrades. I never turn on a port I don't need
>> either, like some of the USB ports, COM, LPT/Printer, etc..
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:497b9798$1@linux...
>>>I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
>>> like these. Quadcore maybe?
>>>
>>> Paris symptoms:
>>>
>>> Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
>>> One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
>>> Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.
>>>
>>> Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
>>> in the mixer.
>>>
>>> These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the system.
>>> There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.
>>>
>>> If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act normal
>>> and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.
>>>
>>> I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem before.
>>>
>>> Dumbfoundedly yours,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
>>>> Paris is finally up and running all adats present
>>>> and accounted for. No probs yet.
>>>>
>>>> Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
>>>> smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>>>>
>>>> No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>>>>> I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really
>>>>> notice
>>>>> any difference.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>>>>ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>>>>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>
>>>>>>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>>>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>>>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>>>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>>>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>>>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>>>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>>>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>>>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>>>>> of the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>>>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>>>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>>>>> all steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tips for,
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102294 is a reply to message #102292] Sat, 24 January 2009 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
System is quirky at Paris boot. Audio is a 50% chance
of not being there in total.

Must start anew.


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497bb0c1@linux...
>I found a way around the problem. I'm not sure if it's
> caused by my particular computer, new drivers, a
> combination of the two, OR something I did in the process
> of installing Paris. It is the only program installed and
> was done so on a clean Windows only Restore point.
>
> If when first booting Paris I play audio on all five submixes,
> audio will be present in all other projects. If I don't do this
> first, Paris will only have audio on Submix A. Weird as hell.
> All EDS cards, Mecs and hardware are recognized though.
>
> Some how I feel as if I conquered the beast. I now am
> committed to having a default project which in itself can be evil.
> Maybe this will change once a project has been opened
> successfully in this comp. I'll test and report back.
>
> No internal latency as was hoped for. Now to backup and
> add some goodies.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:497ba745$1@linux...
>> Aaron,
>>
>> This install came from a Windows Restore point as you described.
>> It's all I had to go on. It looked pretty clean to the eye.
>> Who knows what's imbedded into the registry though?
>>
>> This audio problem might just be a corrupt driver that I keep reloading?
>> It really seems like an easy fix if that's the case.
>>
>> I am getting more than depressed about this now. It really
>> seems like an impossible goal to just get Windows and Paris
>> on this box. I have taken every step that is in print as well as
>> a few tips from you guys. Rebooting between every step.
>>
>> This all stems from the Bios being obsolete. This is the supposed
>> fix for the problems I was having before. That fix is still an unknown.
>>
>> I'll reinstall windows for a third time and tweak just a few things.
>>
>> ass
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:497b9ec3$1@linux...
>>> Are you starting a clean, from an image (Ghost, Acronis, etc...) on
>>> these multiple tries or just removing/installing paris ?
>>> I've in the past had a lot of trouble with the
>>> install/remove/install/remove stuff. Lot of trouble. I'm guessing, but
>>> don't know, that something
>>> is happening in the registry that is not good and/or confusing to
>>> Windows and/or the paris app.
>>> My best results have always been, install windows, strip MS crapware out
>>> I don't need, update what I do need (hardware/software), then install
>>> paris apps/patches/fx upgrades. I never turn on a port I don't need
>>> either, like some of the USB ports, COM, LPT/Printer, etc..
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:497b9798$1@linux...
>>>>I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
>>>> like these. Quadcore maybe?
>>>>
>>>> Paris symptoms:
>>>>
>>>> Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
>>>> One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
>>>> Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
>>>> in the mixer.
>>>>
>>>> These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the system.
>>>> There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.
>>>>
>>>> If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act
>>>> normal
>>>> and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.
>>>>
>>>> I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem
>>>> before.
>>>>
>>>> Dumbfoundedly yours,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
>>>>> Paris is finally up and running all adats present
>>>>> and accounted for. No probs yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
>>>>> smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>>>>>
>>>>> No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>>>>>> I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really
>>>>>> notice
>>>>>> any difference.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>>>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>>>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>>>>>ones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from the path.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>>>>>> effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>>>>>> and COE more often than not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>>>>>> in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>>>>>> C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>>>>>> C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>>>>>> @ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>>>>>> the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>>>>>> This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>>>>>> of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>>>>>> install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>>>>>> and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>>>>>> all steps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tips for,
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102295 is a reply to message #102294] Sat, 24 January 2009 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
Senior Member
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> System is quirky at Paris boot. Audio is a 50% chance
> of not being there in total.
>
> Must start anew.
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497bb0c1@linux...
>
>>I found a way around the problem. I'm not sure if it's
>>caused by my particular computer, new drivers, a
>>combination of the two, OR something I did in the process
>>of installing Paris. It is the only program installed and
>>was done so on a clean Windows only Restore point.
>>
>>If when first booting Paris I play audio on all five submixes,
>>audio will be present in all other projects. If I don't do this
>>first, Paris will only have audio on Submix A. Weird as hell.
>>All EDS cards, Mecs and hardware are recognized though.
>>
>>Some how I feel as if I conquered the beast. I now am
>>committed to having a default project which in itself can be evil.
>>Maybe this will change once a project has been opened
>>successfully in this comp. I'll test and report back.
>>
>>No internal latency as was hoped for. Now to backup and
>>add some goodies.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:497ba745$1@linux...
>>
>>>Aaron,
>>>
>>>This install came from a Windows Restore point as you described.
>>>It's all I had to go on. It looked pretty clean to the eye.
>>>Who knows what's imbedded into the registry though?
>>>
>>>This audio problem might just be a corrupt driver that I keep reloading?
>>>It really seems like an easy fix if that's the case.
>>>
>>>I am getting more than depressed about this now. It really
>>>seems like an impossible goal to just get Windows and Paris
>>>on this box. I have taken every step that is in print as well as
>>>a few tips from you guys. Rebooting between every step.
>>>
>>>This all stems from the Bios being obsolete. This is the supposed
>>>fix for the problems I was having before. That fix is still an unknown.
>>>
>>>I'll reinstall windows for a third time and tweak just a few things.
>>>
>>>ass
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:497b9ec3$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Are you starting a clean, from an image (Ghost, Acronis, etc...) on
>>>>these multiple tries or just removing/installing paris ?
>>>>I've in the past had a lot of trouble with the
>>>>install/remove/install/remove stuff. Lot of trouble. I'm guessing, but
>>>>don't know, that something
>>>>is happening in the registry that is not good and/or confusing to
>>>>Windows and/or the paris app.
>>>>My best results have always been, install windows, strip MS crapware out
>>>>I don't need, update what I do need (hardware/software), then install
>>>>paris apps/patches/fx upgrades. I never turn on a port I don't need
>>>>either, like some of the USB ports, COM, LPT/Printer, etc..
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:497b9798$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
>>>>>like these. Quadcore maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>>Paris symptoms:
>>>>>
>>>>>Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
>>>>>One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
>>>>>Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
>>>>>in the mixer.
>>>>>
>>>>>These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the system.
>>>>>There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.
>>>>>
>>>>>If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act
>>>>>normal
>>>>>and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dumbfoundedly yours,
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Paris is finally up and running all adats present
>>>>>>and accounted for. No probs yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
>>>>>>smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>>>>>>>I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really
>>>>>>>notice
>>>>>>>any difference.
>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>>>>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>>>>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>>>>>>ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the install.
>>>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>from the path.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>>>>>>>effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>>>>>>>and COE more often than not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>>>>>>>C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>>>>>>>C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>>>>>>>@ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>>>>>>>the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>>>>>>>This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>>>>>>>of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>>>>>>>install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>>>>>>>and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>>>>>>>all steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Tips for,
>>>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
TOm,

Have you tried starting up without a default project and verifying audio
from there?

JH
Re: Paris install [message #102296 is a reply to message #102295] Sat, 24 January 2009 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Hi Jeff,

Ya, with/wo default project. Straight to a working
project. The system is finicky to say the least.

Mike A. has given me a direction that I will try asap.

Thanks for your input here. I will try anything to get this
happening!

Thanks,
Tom


"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:497be4e2@linux...
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> System is quirky at Paris boot. Audio is a 50% chance
>> of not being there in total.
>>
>> Must start anew.
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497bb0c1@linux...
>>
>>>I found a way around the problem. I'm not sure if it's
>>>caused by my particular computer, new drivers, a
>>>combination of the two, OR something I did in the process
>>>of installing Paris. It is the only program installed and
>>>was done so on a clean Windows only Restore point.
>>>
>>>If when first booting Paris I play audio on all five submixes,
>>>audio will be present in all other projects. If I don't do this
>>>first, Paris will only have audio on Submix A. Weird as hell.
>>>All EDS cards, Mecs and hardware are recognized though.
>>>
>>>Some how I feel as if I conquered the beast. I now am
>>>committed to having a default project which in itself can be evil.
>>>Maybe this will change once a project has been opened
>>>successfully in this comp. I'll test and report back.
>>>
>>>No internal latency as was hoped for. Now to backup and
>>>add some goodies.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:497ba745$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Aaron,
>>>>
>>>>This install came from a Windows Restore point as you described.
>>>>It's all I had to go on. It looked pretty clean to the eye.
>>>>Who knows what's imbedded into the registry though?
>>>>
>>>>This audio problem might just be a corrupt driver that I keep reloading?
>>>>It really seems like an easy fix if that's the case.
>>>>
>>>>I am getting more than depressed about this now. It really
>>>>seems like an impossible goal to just get Windows and Paris
>>>>on this box. I have taken every step that is in print as well as
>>>>a few tips from you guys. Rebooting between every step.
>>>>
>>>>This all stems from the Bios being obsolete. This is the supposed
>>>>fix for the problems I was having before. That fix is still an unknown.
>>>>
>>>>I'll reinstall windows for a third time and tweak just a few things.
>>>>
>>>>ass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:497b9ec3$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Are you starting a clean, from an image (Ghost, Acronis, etc...) on
>>>>>these multiple tries or just removing/installing paris ?
>>>>>I've in the past had a lot of trouble with the
>>>>>install/remove/install/remove stuff. Lot of trouble. I'm guessing, but
>>>>>don't know, that something
>>>>>is happening in the registry that is not good and/or confusing to
>>>>>Windows and/or the paris app.
>>>>>My best results have always been, install windows, strip MS crapware
>>>>>out I don't need, update what I do need (hardware/software), then
>>>>>install paris apps/patches/fx upgrades. I never turn on a port I don't
>>>>>need either, like some of the USB ports, COM, LPT/Printer, etc..
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:497b9798$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I was wrong. I've installed Paris at least 5 times without problems
>>>>>>like these. Quadcore maybe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Paris symptoms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Audio only seen and heard on Submix A. (This was happening before)
>>>>>>One time I flicked the submix buttons and all audio was heard.
>>>>>>Never again. Weird but leads me to believe software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nothing is soloed, all tracks are present but no meters are moving
>>>>>>in the mixer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>These projects did have effects that are not present yet in the
>>>>>>system.
>>>>>>There are no signs of them when I open the projects though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If it's an installation problem what would cause this? C-16s act
>>>>>>normal
>>>>>>and no COE. All Paris effects and their presets are working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll try reseating cards and cables but this was never a problem
>>>>>>before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dumbfoundedly yours,
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:497b8d5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Paris is finally up and running all adats present
>>>>>>>and accounted for. No probs yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Installing where Paris expects to go made everything
>>>>>>>smoother. Thanks to all that chimed in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No latency spikes either. Now to beat it up a little.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:497b3709$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tom fwiw, my install path is c:\ program files\EMU\Paris Pro
>>>>>>>>I tried putting at the root level for a while, and I didn't really
>>>>>>>>notice
>>>>>>>>any difference.
>>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So can I just lose the paris pro part and see if my
>>>>>>>>>install will work? There are two files with the same
>>>>>>>>>name. They must have to overwrite the existing
>>>>>>>>>ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'll try it before I start all over again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks you guys.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:497a64c9$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>simple fix: Do NOT let it add that Paris Pro folder in the
>>>>>>>>>>install. It
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>puts it in automatically, you have to watch it and manually scrub
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from the path.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:497a3fdb@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I am at my wit's end on this Paris XP 3.0 install.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I have tried three times from scratch but no Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>effects ever show up as well as C-16 quirkiness
>>>>>>>>>>>and COE more often than not.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I understand that the effects subsystem needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>in the exact same path as Paris. Here's what I did:
>>>>>>>>>>>C:Paris for the Paris install
>>>>>>>>>>>C:Paris for the subsystem install
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The subsystem install creates its own folder named paris pro
>>>>>>>>>>>@ C:Paris\paris pro
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If I copy the files that are inside of paris pro into C:Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>the effects show up and work but no presets are there.
>>>>>>>>>>>This leads me to believe the path being wrong is only part
>>>>>>>>>>>of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I start with the hardware installed, install paris xp drivers,
>>>>>>>>>>>install Paris, install subsystem, change PSCL, ADAT,
>>>>>>>>>>>and Scherzo to Mike's 1.02 setup. Rebooting between
>>>>>>>>>>>all steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Tips for,
>>>>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> TOm,
>
> Have you tried starting up without a default project and verifying audio
> from there?
>
> JH
Re: Paris install [message #102307 is a reply to message #102296] Mon, 26 January 2009 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is a Brian
T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened straight
up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed it,all
was good.
You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
Rod
Re: Paris install [message #102308 is a reply to message #102307] Mon, 26 January 2009 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Thanks Rod. I'll double check. I was trying most
of this without a default project. But it might have
been opening at 44.1?

I'll fix it one way or another.
T.



"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:497db76d$1@linux...
>
> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is a
> Brian
> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened
> straight
> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed
> it,all
> was good.
> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
> Rod
Re: Paris install [message #102309 is a reply to message #102308] Mon, 26 January 2009 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Well, if you weren't using a default project, and clicking directly on the
ppj you wanted to open, and your working at 44.1 you're probably opening
at 44.1
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Thanks Rod. I'll double check. I was trying most
>of this without a default project. But it might have
>been opening at 44.1?
>
>I'll fix it one way or another.
>T.
>
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:497db76d$1@linux...
>>
>> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is
a
>> Brian
>> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened
>> straight
>> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed

>> it,all
>> was good.
>> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
>> Rod
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102310 is a reply to message #102309] Mon, 26 January 2009 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Rod,

I just checked and sure enough the default project as well
as 90% of all my work is at 44.1k. I'll see if that was the only
problem. If that's the case that will be the simplest fix ever.

Thanks for the heads up! I'll report back.

Tom


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:497e30cc$1@linux...
>
> Well, if you weren't using a default project, and clicking directly on the
> ppj you wanted to open, and your working at 44.1 you're probably opening
> at 44.1
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Thanks Rod. I'll double check. I was trying most
>>of this without a default project. But it might have
>>been opening at 44.1?
>>
>>I'll fix it one way or another.
>>T.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:497db76d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is
> a
>>> Brian
>>> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened
>>> straight
>>> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed
>
>>> it,all
>>> was good.
>>> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
>>> Rod
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102311 is a reply to message #102307] Mon, 26 January 2009 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here we never did anything at 48. I simply opened Paris with NO default
project, then opened up whatever project I needed with Zero problems,
ever. Try deleting the Default project all together and see what happens.

David.

Rod Lincoln wrote:
> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is a Brian
> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened straight
> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed it,all
> was good.
> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
> Rod
Re: Paris install [message #102313 is a reply to message #102311] Mon, 26 January 2009 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have never done a project at 48K, all at 44.1 which is
what my default is set to. I'm on Mac

Ted



EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Here we never did anything at 48. I simply opened Paris with NO default

>project, then opened up whatever project I needed with Zero problems,
>ever. Try deleting the Default project all together and see what happens.
>
>David.
>
>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is
a Brian
>> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened straight
>> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed
it,all
>> was good.
>> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
>> Rod
Re: Paris install [message #102314 is a reply to message #102313] Mon, 26 January 2009 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hey guys,

No default project didn't help anything. In all
of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
I forgot on this most recent run. It's been in/uninstalled
three times in three days.

Mike has a debug for me to run to see if there's
something peculiar to my setup.

I want to thank everyone who has helped. It
makes a huge difference in my mental health.
Computers make me really happy when they work
and the opposite when they don't.

Tom









"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:497e3fcd$1@linux...
>
> I have never done a project at 48K, all at 44.1 which is
> what my default is set to. I'm on Mac
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>Here we never did anything at 48. I simply opened Paris with NO default
>
>>project, then opened up whatever project I needed with Zero problems,
>>ever. Try deleting the Default project all together and see what happens.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is
> a Brian
>>> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened
>>> straight
>>> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed
> it,all
>>> was good.
>>> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
>>> Rod
>
Re: Paris install [message #102315 is a reply to message #102314] Mon, 26 January 2009 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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It's kind of like marrying a really hot, but mean woman isn't it?

AA


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497e5898@linux...
> Hey guys,
>
> No default project didn't help anything. In all
> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
> I forgot on this most recent run. It's been in/uninstalled
> three times in three days.
>
> Mike has a debug for me to run to see if there's
> something peculiar to my setup.
>
> I want to thank everyone who has helped. It
> makes a huge difference in my mental health.
> Computers make me really happy when they work
> and the opposite when they don't.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:497e3fcd$1@linux...
>>
>> I have never done a project at 48K, all at 44.1 which is
>> what my default is set to. I'm on Mac
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>Here we never did anything at 48. I simply opened Paris with NO default
>>
>>>project, then opened up whatever project I needed with Zero problems,
>>>ever. Try deleting the Default project all together and see what
>>>happens.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>>> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is
>> a Brian
>>>> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened
>>>> straight
>>>> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed
>> it,all
>>>> was good.
>>>> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
>>>> Rod
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102316 is a reply to message #102315] Mon, 26 January 2009 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Ya Aaron, I'll tell my wife that one.

If I'm not using a default project how do I
make Paris boot at 48k? That's not happening
anymore. It used to do it automatically.
Still using internal clock.

Thanks,
Tom




"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:497e85a5$1@linux...
> It's kind of like marrying a really hot, but mean woman isn't it?
>
> AA
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497e5898@linux...
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>> I forgot on this most recent run. It's been in/uninstalled
>> three times in three days.
>>
>> Mike has a debug for me to run to see if there's
>> something peculiar to my setup.
>>
>> I want to thank everyone who has helped. It
>> makes a huge difference in my mental health.
>> Computers make me really happy when they work
>> and the opposite when they don't.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:497e3fcd$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I have never done a project at 48K, all at 44.1 which is
>>> what my default is set to. I'm on Mac
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>Here we never did anything at 48. I simply opened Paris with NO default
>>>
>>>>project, then opened up whatever project I needed with Zero problems,
>>>>ever. Try deleting the Default project all together and see what
>>>>happens.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>>>> Tom, FWIW, I have a default project. My Default is set to 48k. This is
>>> a Brian
>>>>> T. tip. Way back when, he found that paris was wonky if you opened
>>>>> straight
>>>>> up to 44.1. but if your default ppj was set to 48 and then you changed
>>> it,all
>>>>> was good.
>>>>> You may already know this. Just brainstorming.
>>>>> Rod
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102323 is a reply to message #102316] Tue, 27 January 2009 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.

Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood, it
sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
Re: Paris install [message #102324 is a reply to message #102323] Tue, 27 January 2009 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hi Rod,

I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.

I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.

Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.

I'll report back when the fix is found.

Tom






"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>
>
>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>
> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood, it
> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>
Re: Paris install [message #102332 is a reply to message #102324] Thu, 29 January 2009 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
Something is really screwy.

Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497fcba3@linux...
> Hi Rod,
>
> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>
> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>
> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>
> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>
>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood, it
>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102337 is a reply to message #102332] Fri, 30 January 2009 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really hoping
the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the multe
processor pool.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>Something is really screwy.
>
>Tom
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497fcba3@linux...
>> Hi Rod,
>>
>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>
>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>
>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>
>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>
>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
it
>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102338 is a reply to message #102337] Fri, 30 January 2009 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hey Rod,

Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.

That's my take on it anyway.

Tom

A default project makes it crash every by the way...



"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4983159b$1@linux...
>
> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
> hoping
> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
> multe
> processor pool.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>Something is really screwy.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497fcba3@linux...
>>> Hi Rod,
>>>
>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>
>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>
>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>
>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>
>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
> it
>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102339 is a reply to message #102338] Fri, 30 January 2009 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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time

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:498320f1$1@linux...
> Hey Rod,
>
> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>
> That's my take on it anyway.
>
> Tom
>
> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>
>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>> hoping
>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
>> multe
>> processor pool.
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>
>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>
>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>
>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>
>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
>> it
>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102374 is a reply to message #102339] Wed, 04 February 2009 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
Paris is very stable. Default project is present
but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?

After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
the reason for my problems as it looks now.

Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.

Tom




"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
> time
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>> Hey Rod,
>>
>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>
>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>>> hoping
>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
>>> multe
>>> processor pool.
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
>>> it
>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102382 is a reply to message #102374] Thu, 05 February 2009 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Magma in, three cards, two mecs loaded with ADATs all
is happy. Latency peaked at 54us over two hours of looping
three submixes.

Must have been a bad cable, card or both I've been battling for
the last month.

Tomorrow card 4 and maybe 5 if all goes well.

Tom





"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:498a74fe$1@linux...
> Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
> with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
> Paris is very stable. Default project is present
> but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
> Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>
> After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
> That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
> function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
> the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>
> Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>> time
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>> Hey Rod,
>>>
>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>
>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>>>> hoping
>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
>>>> multe
>>>> processor pool.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have
>>>>>>> misunderstood,
>>>> it
>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102390 is a reply to message #102374] Fri, 06 February 2009 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
I ALWAYS launched Paris from an application shortcut on the desktop...
NEVER from a PPJ. Never had one problem doing that.

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
> with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
> Paris is very stable. Default project is present
> but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
> Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>
> After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
> That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
> function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
> the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>
> Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>> time
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>> Hey Rod,
>>>
>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>
>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>>>> hoping
>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
>>>> multe
>>>> processor pool.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>> Something is really screwy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
>>>> it
>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102391 is a reply to message #102390] Fri, 06 February 2009 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Me too I think.

"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:498c5f18@linux...
>I ALWAYS launched Paris from an application shortcut on the desktop...
>NEVER from a PPJ. Never had one problem doing that.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
>> with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
>> Paris is very stable. Default project is present
>> but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
>> Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>>
>> After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
>> That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
>> function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
>> the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>>
>> Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>>> time
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>>> Hey Rod,
>>>>
>>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>>
>>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>>>>> hoping
>>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
>>>>> multe
>>>>> processor pool.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>> Something is really screwy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have
>>>>>>>> misunderstood,
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Paris install [message #102403 is a reply to message #102374] Fri, 06 February 2009 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
That is so weird. So your saying you start Paris by clicking on the ppj file
you want to work on? My rig does not like that.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
>with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
>Paris is very stable. Default project is present
>but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
>Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>
>After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
>That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
>function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
>the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>
>Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>> time
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>> Hey Rod,
>>>
>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>
>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really

>>>> hoping
>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the

>>>> multe
>>>> processor pool.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
>>>> it
>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102410 is a reply to message #102390] Fri, 06 February 2009 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Yeah...me too.
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>I ALWAYS launched Paris from an application shortcut on the desktop...
>NEVER from a PPJ. Never had one problem doing that.
>
>David.
>
>Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
>> with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
>> Paris is very stable. Default project is present
>> but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
>> Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>>
>> After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
>> That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
>> function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
>> the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>>
>> Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>>> time
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>>> Hey Rod,
>>>>
>>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>>
>>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really

>>>>> hoping
>>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into
the
>>>>> multe
>>>>> processor pool.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>> Something is really screwy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have misunderstood,
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Paris install [message #102417 is a reply to message #102403] Fri, 06 February 2009 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Hi Rod,

Actually I never do that but did try for a while
which was futile. When I got this whole rig running
seemingly perfectly only to find out I had to start
from scratch... I started not thinking clearly.
I forget the basic stuff since setting up a Paris
rig is what I do least with Paris. I had forgotten that
the shortcut was to the .exe not to the default project.

Now all is well latency wise with 4 cards and the Magma.
Tomorrow is plugin day with the UAD. Maybe Macro Express.
Paragon is working so backup images take about ten minutes.
It restores in another ten.

Then it's creamware. I will monitor latency at every step.

Thanks for keeping me straight on all of this. Mike and Chris
have been very helpful throughout.

Tom


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:498cb3bb$1@linux...
>
> That is so weird. So your saying you start Paris by clicking on the ppj
> file
> you want to work on? My rig does not like that.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
>>with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
>>Paris is very stable. Default project is present
>>but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
>>Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>>
>>After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
>>That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
>>function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
>>the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>>
>>Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>>> time
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>>> Hey Rod,
>>>>
>>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>>
>>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>
>>>>> hoping
>>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into the
>
>>>>> multe
>>>>> processor pool.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have
>>>>>>>> misunderstood,
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102477 is a reply to message #102417] Mon, 09 February 2009 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Got lots of plugs working in Paris with no problems
at all. Latency is low low low and CPU never gets
past 5% with 25-30 tracks.

Soon to add UAD-2 and a few other large bundles to see
where we really stand. Tomorrow will tell.

I must backup now.

T


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:498d283b$1@linux...
> Hi Rod,
>
> Actually I never do that but did try for a while
> which was futile. When I got this whole rig running
> seemingly perfectly only to find out I had to start
> from scratch... I started not thinking clearly.
> I forget the basic stuff since setting up a Paris
> rig is what I do least with Paris. I had forgotten that
> the shortcut was to the .exe not to the default project.
>
> Now all is well latency wise with 4 cards and the Magma.
> Tomorrow is plugin day with the UAD. Maybe Macro Express.
> Paragon is working so backup images take about ten minutes.
> It restores in another ten.
>
> Then it's creamware. I will monitor latency at every step.
>
> Thanks for keeping me straight on all of this. Mike and Chris
> have been very helpful throughout.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:498cb3bb$1@linux...
>>
>> That is so weird. So your saying you start Paris by clicking on the ppj
>> file
>> you want to work on? My rig does not like that.
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
>>>with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
>>>Paris is very stable. Default project is present
>>>but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
>>>Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>>>
>>>After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
>>>That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
>>>function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
>>>the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>>>
>>>Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4983305c@linux...
>>>> time
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>>>> Hey Rod,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was really
>>
>>>>>> hoping
>>>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into
>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>> multe
>>>>>> processor pool.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have
>>>>>>>>> misunderstood,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris install [message #102507 is a reply to message #102477] Fri, 13 February 2009 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2007
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All that's left is the UAD-2 tomorrow.
Hundreds of cool plugs working right now
with Paris in this quadcore.

All systems go!

Tom




"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49911db2@linux...
> Got lots of plugs working in Paris with no problems
> at all. Latency is low low low and CPU never gets
> past 5% with 25-30 tracks.
>
> Soon to add UAD-2 and a few other large bundles to see
> where we really stand. Tomorrow will tell.
>
> I must backup now.
>
> T
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:498d283b$1@linux...
>> Hi Rod,
>>
>> Actually I never do that but did try for a while
>> which was futile. When I got this whole rig running
>> seemingly perfectly only to find out I had to start
>> from scratch... I started not thinking clearly.
>> I forget the basic stuff since setting up a Paris
>> rig is what I do least with Paris. I had forgotten that
>> the shortcut was to the .exe not to the default project.
>>
>> Now all is well latency wise with 4 cards and the Magma.
>> Tomorrow is plugin day with the UAD. Maybe Macro Express.
>> Paragon is working so backup images take about ten minutes.
>> It restores in another ten.
>>
>> Then it's creamware. I will monitor latency at every step.
>>
>> Thanks for keeping me straight on all of this. Mike and Chris
>> have been very helpful throughout.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:498cb3bb$1@linux...
>>>
>>> That is so weird. So your saying you start Paris by clicking on the ppj
>>> file
>>> you want to work on? My rig does not like that.
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>Got the rig running smoothly in loop mode
>>>>with two cards, two mecs and no magma.
>>>>Paris is very stable. Default project is present
>>>>but never being clicked on to boot. That's key!!!
>>>>Click on it and Paris is not happy. Not sure about that?
>>>>
>>>>After two hours I'll add the Magma back into the mix.
>>>>That will tell all because I found one eds card that wouldn't
>>>>function as the Master card. Either it or the Magma are
>>>>the reason for my problems as it looks now.
>>>>
>>>>Tomorrow will be the Magma hurdle.
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:4983305c@linux...
>>>>> time
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:498320f1$1@linux...
>>>>>> Hey Rod,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody will have the kind of problems I'm having.
>>>>>> I will find the answer and when I do it will be the silliest thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's my take on it anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A default project makes it crash every by the way...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4983159b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom, I am frusterated, just reading about your problems, I was
>>>>>>> really
>>>
>>>>>>> hoping
>>>>>>> the 48k thing would fix it. This is making me rethink jupming into
>>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>>>> multe
>>>>>>> processor pool.
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>I'm looking into drivers again for the mobo/chipset.
>>>>>>>>Something is really screwy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:497fcba3@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rod,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I used to use a default project but many have suggested not to.
>>>>>>>>> It might be a problem in some instances at this stage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought it was mandatory way back but since haven't
>>>>>>>>> used one. Paris always booted at 48k without it. Now
>>>>>>>>> in this comp it boots at 44.1 without it. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike has a new debug PSCL that may be the fix. My
>>>>>>>>> computer is a bugger. Mike is hot on the trail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll report back when the fix is found.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:497fc1ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No default project didn't help anything. In all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my working systems I also booted at 48k to start.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom, why don't you want a default project? I must have
>>>>>>>>>> misunderstood,
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you use to do this, and it worked for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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