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| Latency Checker [message #95719] |
Thu, 07 February 2008 12:15  |
Ed
Messages: 199
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Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try. I need
a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research, but
so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this proggie...
Anyone?
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95765 is a reply to message #95761] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 11:26  |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
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Hi Ed,
Cubase doesn't crash on my machine, and I didn't really do anything special
to it. I would check the steiny site for the latest updates, as I do know
that the 'out of the box' version I had did crash a bit.
Chuck
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
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>Hey Chuck... that is strange. I just clicked on it and the page popped
right
>up. It was real important.. I was just kinda curious if anyone heard or
>used it. Although I am still a Paris user... I am trying out new things
>(within reason). I got the Cubase 4 (Studio) and imported some wav's to
>play with.. I wanted to start learning before my firewire device gets here,
>because I need to record in Cubase (or something). Anyway, is Cubase 4
stable?
> I haven't tweaked my notebook (AMD Turion 64, 1.6GB) on XP Pro... but
I
>am just trying to import some wav's from old projects... Sheesh... Cubase
>crashes more than it is up and running. Just simple things like adding
a
>reverb on one vox track... sometimes it works, sometimes I get the error
>to send... I hit don't send and it crashes. Anyone else experiencing these
>kind of issues with Cubase? I am not sure I want to pay $400 for a program
>that crashes so much. Any other recommendations?
>
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>>Haven't heard of it.
>>
>>Tried to get to the link but got a 'page not found' error.
>>
>>I think the main thing is to run whatever test you are going to run for
>a
>>really long time. I know my system reports really low latency, and works
>>great 99.9% of the time, but every once in a while there's a glitch and
>it's
>>byby take.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
>>>
>>>http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>>>
>>>I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try.
I
>>need
>>>a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research, but
>>>so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this proggie...
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95772 is a reply to message #95763] |
Fri, 08 February 2008 15:28 |
Nei
Messages: 108
Registered: November 2006
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If you don't yet have your firewire interface, what are you
using for playback? IOW, I wonder if it could be crashing
because you don't have an ASIO-compliant soundcard/driver?
I've had Cubase crash or lock up only a few times, but it's
only been when I've inserted some new plugin I'm trying that
happens to have poorly-written code, or is a CPU pig to the
extent that it puts everything over the top & causes the lockup.
I don't beleive I've ever had it crash on on a stable rig under
any other circumstances (although on my last rig before this
one - there were some mobo/chipset issues - it locked up a few
times on that one, but then other funky things would
happen that didn't occur on my current rig or the one prior to
that imtermediate one - like losing sync with word clock from
time to time, for example, so there was some PC hardware funk
goin' on there.)
Neil
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
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>Thanks Chris! I am gonna play with it once I get my firewire device hooked
>up. I was curious if others were using it and how reliable. Sounds like
>it is worth trying.
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>Hi Ed,
>>Use it all the time for trouble shooting . Its an awesome tool.
>>
>>It is great for finding what device is causing bus interrupts.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Ed wrote:
>>> Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
>>>
>>> http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>>>
>>> I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try.
>I need
>>> a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research,
but
>>> so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this proggie...
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95854 is a reply to message #95772] |
Mon, 11 February 2008 07:17 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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Hey Neil,
Yeah, I don't have the firewire device yet (suppose to arrive today), but
I just installed Cubase on my notebook (AMD Turion 64bit) and imported some
wav's from my Paris... just wanted to play a little... to get a feel for
Cubase. Well, I first ran into issues with converting from the Paris 24
bit. I normally use CoolEdit (older version). Of course, it brings Paris
24 bit files in as 32 bit. I am not sure why, but it does. But when I pulled
up a converted 24 bit from Cubase, Cooledit started doing 24 bit. Don't
ask.. cause I am clueless. However, I got my wav files finally converted
to 24 bit properly and Cubase recognized them. It didn't like 32 bit files.
So I brought them into a new project. I had to do one wav at a time because
Cubase would sometimes crash after I imported a new one. Not evertime.
So I had to import it, save it, play it, close it, open it, re-play it...
and hopefully didn't crash again. There were about 9 wav files for this
one song I was playing with and it took hours to just get the wav files in
and levels adjusted. Since I am not recording yet, ASIO isn't an option...
and playback were just through the speakers... Oh, it crashed almost everytime
on certain plugins.
Anyway, I don't have my notebook tweaked for audio yet, so perhaps that is
some of the cause... but from my little experiment... I have real concerns
for Cubase stability. I'll keep playing... and get it tweaked... maybe I'll
have better luck. i was just wondering if others had Cubase Studio 4.0 issues...
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>If you don't yet have your firewire interface, what are you
>using for playback? IOW, I wonder if it could be crashing
>because you don't have an ASIO-compliant soundcard/driver?
>
>I've had Cubase crash or lock up only a few times, but it's
>only been when I've inserted some new plugin I'm trying that
>happens to have poorly-written code, or is a CPU pig to the
>extent that it puts everything over the top & causes the lockup.
>I don't beleive I've ever had it crash on on a stable rig under
>any other circumstances (although on my last rig before this
>one - there were some mobo/chipset issues - it locked up a few
>times on that one, but then other funky things would
>happen that didn't occur on my current rig or the one prior to
>that imtermediate one - like losing sync with word clock from
>time to time, for example, so there was some PC hardware funk
>goin' on there.)
>
>Neil
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks Chris! I am gonna play with it once I get my firewire device hooked
>>up. I was curious if others were using it and how reliable. Sounds like
>>it is worth trying.
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>Hi Ed,
>>>Use it all the time for trouble shooting . Its an awesome tool.
>>>
>>>It is great for finding what device is causing bus interrupts.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Ed wrote:
>>>> Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>>>>
>>>> I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try.
>
>>I need
>>>> a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research,
>but
>>>> so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this proggie...
>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95855 is a reply to message #95765] |
Mon, 11 February 2008 07:26 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hey Chuck... are you saying your box version crashed, but then you downloaded
the updates and it stopped crashing? Weird.
I am trying the downloaded trial version. I would assume that it is the
most stable one. But not on my machine. The Cubase LE comes with this Firewire
device... I hope it is more stable than what I experienced with the trial
version I downloaded.
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>Hi Ed,
>
>Cubase doesn't crash on my machine, and I didn't really do anything special
>to it. I would check the steiny site for the latest updates, as I do know
>that the 'out of the box' version I had did crash a bit.
>
>Chuck
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Chuck... that is strange. I just clicked on it and the page popped
>right
>>up. It was real important.. I was just kinda curious if anyone heard or
>>used it. Although I am still a Paris user... I am trying out new things
>>(within reason). I got the Cubase 4 (Studio) and imported some wav's to
>>play with.. I wanted to start learning before my firewire device gets here,
>>because I need to record in Cubase (or something). Anyway, is Cubase 4
>stable?
>> I haven't tweaked my notebook (AMD Turion 64, 1.6GB) on XP Pro... but
>I
>>am just trying to import some wav's from old projects... Sheesh... Cubase
>>crashes more than it is up and running. Just simple things like adding
>a
>>reverb on one vox track... sometimes it works, sometimes I get the error
>>to send... I hit don't send and it crashes. Anyone else experiencing these
>>kind of issues with Cubase? I am not sure I want to pay $400 for a program
>>that crashes so much. Any other recommendations?
>>
>>
>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Haven't heard of it.
>>>
>>>Tried to get to the link but got a 'page not found' error.
>>>
>>>I think the main thing is to run whatever test you are going to run for
>>a
>>>really long time. I know my system reports really low latency, and works
>>>great 99.9% of the time, but every once in a while there's a glitch and
>>it's
>>>byby take.
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>>>>
>>>>I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try.
>I
>>>need
>>>>a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research,
but
>>>>so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this proggie...
>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95856 is a reply to message #95854] |
Mon, 11 February 2008 07:36 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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I can't speak for 4.0, as I'm still on v3, but I know very
few instances of people here complaining about Cubase being
unstable - you can probably move forward with confidence.
There was one version (beta) of the RME HDSP driver that both
Deej & I had some issues with - that caused some aberrations
with Cubase, but they cleared up with the driver rewrite/final
version of it.
Let's put it this way... JohnB RAVES about Cubase & how stable
it is - and he doesn't rave about ANYTHING.
:D
BTW, just curious - you're not running WinVista on your
notebook, are you?
Neil
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Neil,
>
> Yeah, I don't have the firewire device yet (suppose to arrive today),
but
>I just installed Cubase on my notebook (AMD Turion 64bit) and imported some
>wav's from my Paris... just wanted to play a little... to get a feel for
>Cubase. Well, I first ran into issues with converting from the Paris 24
>bit. I normally use CoolEdit (older version). Of course, it brings Paris
>24 bit files in as 32 bit. I am not sure why, but it does. But when I
pulled
>up a converted 24 bit from Cubase, Cooledit started doing 24 bit. Don't
>ask.. cause I am clueless. However, I got my wav files finally converted
>to 24 bit properly and Cubase recognized them. It didn't like 32 bit files.
> So I brought them into a new project. I had to do one wav at a time because
>Cubase would sometimes crash after I imported a new one. Not evertime.
>So I had to import it, save it, play it, close it, open it, re-play it...
>and hopefully didn't crash again. There were about 9 wav files for this
>one song I was playing with and it took hours to just get the wav files
in
>and levels adjusted. Since I am not recording yet, ASIO isn't an option...
>and playback were just through the speakers... Oh, it crashed almost everytime
>on certain plugins.
>
>Anyway, I don't have my notebook tweaked for audio yet, so perhaps that
is
>some of the cause... but from my little experiment... I have real concerns
>for Cubase stability. I'll keep playing... and get it tweaked... maybe
I'll
>have better luck. i was just wondering if others had Cubase Studio 4.0
issues...
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>If you don't yet have your firewire interface, what are you
>>using for playback? IOW, I wonder if it could be crashing
>>because you don't have an ASIO-compliant soundcard/driver?
>>
>>I've had Cubase crash or lock up only a few times, but it's
>>only been when I've inserted some new plugin I'm trying that
>>happens to have poorly-written code, or is a CPU pig to the
>>extent that it puts everything over the top & causes the lockup.
>>I don't beleive I've ever had it crash on on a stable rig under
>>any other circumstances (although on my last rig before this
>>one - there were some mobo/chipset issues - it locked up a few
>>times on that one, but then other funky things would
>>happen that didn't occur on my current rig or the one prior to
>>that imtermediate one - like losing sync with word clock from
>>time to time, for example, so there was some PC hardware funk
>>goin' on there.)
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks Chris! I am gonna play with it once I get my firewire device hooked
>>>up. I was curious if others were using it and how reliable. Sounds like
>>>it is worth trying.
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>Hi Ed,
>>>>Use it all the time for trouble shooting . Its an awesome tool.
>>>>
>>>>It is great for finding what device is causing bus interrupts.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ed wrote:
>>>>> Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try.
>>
>>>I need
>>>>> a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research,
>>but
>>>>> so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this proggie...
>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95867 is a reply to message #95856] |
Mon, 11 February 2008 12:50 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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No sir. I am still on XP...
We just bought a new laptop for the wife tho. We went with the Acer 5920
from WalMart. Awesome notebook.. but it comes with Vista. You almost can't
find a new one without it. What pickles me is that XP is still out there
being sold at original price in Best Buy and the other stores. Some places
have marked it down a little... Folks in Best Buy claim Microslop will stop
support of XP soon... I told the lil youngin geek... I am not sure microsoft
is gonna force it on us this time. First, there are way too many issues
with drivers that it is almost worthless! And just watching my wife play
with it... it looks like it's got the resources constantly doing something,
and the operator doing nothing.
I just received my Alesis io14 via UPS, but I have to wait until I get home
from work to play! lol. Hopefully everything works out. I just need a simple
firewire recording interface with 4 channels. It comes with Cubase LE, so
I'll try that and stay away from the trial download. That is what I was
playing with that was crashing so much...
"Neil" <OIUOIU@IO.com> wrote:
>
>I can't speak for 4.0, as I'm still on v3, but I know very
>few instances of people here complaining about Cubase being
>unstable - you can probably move forward with confidence.
>There was one version (beta) of the RME HDSP driver that both
>Deej & I had some issues with - that caused some aberrations
>with Cubase, but they cleared up with the driver rewrite/final
>version of it.
>
>Let's put it this way... JohnB RAVES about Cubase & how stable
>it is - and he doesn't rave about ANYTHING.
>
>:D
>
>BTW, just curious - you're not running WinVista on your
>notebook, are you?
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Neil,
>>
>> Yeah, I don't have the firewire device yet (suppose to arrive today),
>but
>>I just installed Cubase on my notebook (AMD Turion 64bit) and imported
some
>>wav's from my Paris... just wanted to play a little... to get a feel for
>>Cubase. Well, I first ran into issues with converting from the Paris 24
>>bit. I normally use CoolEdit (older version). Of course, it brings Paris
>>24 bit files in as 32 bit. I am not sure why, but it does. But when I
>pulled
>>up a converted 24 bit from Cubase, Cooledit started doing 24 bit. Don't
>>ask.. cause I am clueless. However, I got my wav files finally converted
>>to 24 bit properly and Cubase recognized them. It didn't like 32 bit files.
>> So I brought them into a new project. I had to do one wav at a time because
>>Cubase would sometimes crash after I imported a new one. Not evertime.
>
>>So I had to import it, save it, play it, close it, open it, re-play it...
>>and hopefully didn't crash again. There were about 9 wav files for this
>>one song I was playing with and it took hours to just get the wav files
>in
>>and levels adjusted. Since I am not recording yet, ASIO isn't an option...
>>and playback were just through the speakers... Oh, it crashed almost everytime
>>on certain plugins.
>>
>>Anyway, I don't have my notebook tweaked for audio yet, so perhaps that
>is
>>some of the cause... but from my little experiment... I have real concerns
>>for Cubase stability. I'll keep playing... and get it tweaked... maybe
>I'll
>>have better luck. i was just wondering if others had Cubase Studio 4.0
>issues...
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you don't yet have your firewire interface, what are you
>>>using for playback? IOW, I wonder if it could be crashing
>>>because you don't have an ASIO-compliant soundcard/driver?
>>>
>>>I've had Cubase crash or lock up only a few times, but it's
>>>only been when I've inserted some new plugin I'm trying that
>>>happens to have poorly-written code, or is a CPU pig to the
>>>extent that it puts everything over the top & causes the lockup.
>>>I don't beleive I've ever had it crash on on a stable rig under
>>>any other circumstances (although on my last rig before this
>>>one - there were some mobo/chipset issues - it locked up a few
>>>times on that one, but then other funky things would
>>>happen that didn't occur on my current rig or the one prior to
>>>that imtermediate one - like losing sync with word clock from
>>>time to time, for example, so there was some PC hardware funk
>>>goin' on there.)
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Chris! I am gonna play with it once I get my firewire device
hooked
>>>>up. I was curious if others were using it and how reliable. Sounds
like
>>>>it is worth trying.
>>>>
>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hi Ed,
>>>>>Use it all the time for trouble shooting . Its an awesome tool.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is great for finding what device is causing bus interrupts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed wrote:
>>>>>> Hey folks... anyone familiar with this program?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently purchased the Alesis io14 (firewire) that I am gonna try.
>>>
>>>>I need
>>>>>> a cheap something, but with at least 4 inputs. I tried to research,
>>>but
>>>>>> so few reviews... But the firmware/driver updates recommend this
proggie...
>>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>
>>>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Latency Checker [message #95877 is a reply to message #95863] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 04:44 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hmmmm.. I am wondering now if maybe my issue(s) with Cubase crashing is related
to midi and it's settings. I don't do midi and know absolutely nothing about
it. In my Paris, I always turned it off within the cfg file.
Is there an easy way to turn midi completely off in Cubase? I see midi settings
in the devices/settings area, but I see no where to actually turn it off.
Or do you normally turn that off on the device control panel. I'll have
to look at that when I get home from work; it might be in there.
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Chuck... are you saying your box version crashed, but then you downloaded
>>the updates and it stopped crashing? Weird.
>
>yep, I did initially have a bunch of crashes and weird stuff with MIDI,
but
>when I installed the updated app, and updated drivers for my MIA soundcard
>everything started gelling up right.
>
>Chuck
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