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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60659 is a reply to message #60658] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 10:45   |
EK Sound
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en you have a demanding editing project.
Plenty of native processing tools, excellent routing. I love the way that
you can customize the program to suit your needs, from shortcuts to
templates, and also the batch procesing engine with mixer setups and various
output options. E-mail me if you need to ask more questions about it.
Cheers,
Sakis
"DC" <dc@spamunclelouie.com> wrote in message news:4382b100$1@linux...
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> I saw this system up close for the first time at the AES seminar on
> Saturday. I may have found my next DAW if Paris ever becomes
> unusable for me.
>
> Very impressive.
>
> Seen it? Opinions?
>
> http://www.sequoiadigital.comI like the idea of having the preamp knobs at arms length. primo job dude
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
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> Hey guys,
>
> Well, I just had to pop up a pic of this. :-) I started building this
> last month when the DM2K arrived, now I just finished assembling it.
> I still have a lot of fill 'n finish to do, but it's up and running!
>
> For those who are curious, I have detailed photos of every step. I
> will put them up on a page when time permits.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to our southern neighbors!
>
> David.
>
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----That is correct IIRC. Both are momentary.
AA
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60676 is a reply to message #60663] |
Sun, 27 November 2005 06:42 |
John [1]
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johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4388a711$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
>> >> in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
>> >> stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
>> >> bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
>> >> agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>> >> >Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and
>nearby.
>> >> Was
>> >> >wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but
I
>> >have
>> >> >heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >Edna
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Happy belated Thanksgiving DC and all.
Rich
'Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain.'
- Winston Churchill
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:438572cb$1@linux...
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> We are going to a cool restaurant in Palm Springs ("bom bings" to
> my 4-year old) so we don't have to do any dishes. yes!
>
> For those of you from other than the US, come visit and try one
> of these amazing T-day dinners.
>
>
> May you have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
>
> DC
>I don't Know maybe they sound ok!
My old horn loaded Pa with Altec, Vintage JBL , even some community mid
horns) sound a lot better than most sytems I hear today.
But for the millions that stuff must cost might as well get some KHORNS If
you like the Instant slam horns put out. My old 1951 Klipsch Khorn sound
good with Mcintosh mc 30 powering them.There's 2 things Community does better than anyone on the planet.
1. The M4 horn midrange. There is no cleaner, lower-distortion,
pleasant-sounding very long throw midrange on the planet. We put
them in stadiums and they murder everything else available.
2. Large format 2" throat HF horns. The PC264 with a TAD driver
is the best-sounding HF system in the world. shhh don't tell anyone.
DCAlso, I believe it was reported here some time back that the black MECs have
quieter fans (or at least some of them do), if noise is an issue where your
MEC resides.
Dale
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60679 is a reply to message #60676] |
Sun, 27 November 2005 08:44 |
Edna Sloan
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n the master section of the mec are 20 bit
>> >on both the black face and the "Pro" blue face. The 8 in or 8 out modules
>> >that you can add are 24 bit, both black and blue.
>> >Rod
>> >"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>> >>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
>> > Was
>> >>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but
I
>have
>> >>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>Edna
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>Ultimately, that is what it all comes to.
Thanks again
Edna
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
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> I just go by my ears--if it sounds like I want it to,
> then it's all good--bits at that point don't matter to me :)
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >What I was getting at was that if you do a lot of file processing,
wouldn't
> >this also be a time to use 24 bits to advantage?
> >
> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> >news:4388affc$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I use a fair amount of plugins--UAD card for a lot,
> >> but pleant of Paris compresssors and eqs, with some
> >> Waves stuff. All my verb stuff is external (KSP 8 and
> >> others). I assume that is what you asked :)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >> >Hmmm, interesting. Do you do a lot of fx processing at 16 bit also?
> >> >
> >> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:4388a711$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
> >> >> in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
> >> >> stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
> >> >> bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
> >> >> agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >> >> >Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and
> >nearby.
> >> >> Was
> >> >> >wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but
> I
> >> >have
> >> >> >heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> >> >> >Thanks,
> >> >> >Edna
> >> >> >
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60682 is a reply to message #60662] |
Sun, 27 November 2005 14:00 |
John Macy
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in message
> >news:43889666$1@linux...
> >>
> >> ooops...I see I was beat to the punch. :-)
> >> rod
> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >The 4 ins and outs on the master section of the mec are 20 bit
> >> >on both the black face and the "Pro" blue face. The 8 in or 8 out
modules
> >> >that you can add are 24 bit, both black and blue.
> >> >Rod
> >> >"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >> >>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and
nearby.
> >> > Was
> >> >>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but
> I
> >have
> >> >>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> >> >>Thanks,
> >> >>Edna
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Hey Guys & Gals,
I've been mixing a lot of projects these days on various Pro Tools systems
( LE, Le-M-box,HD3) and I have to say that PT is sounding pretty darn good.
It (Pro- Tools) has a nice high-end(10k) thing that's just sits right in
todays music (Rock & R&B)..
I came to this conclusion while also mixing int the box using SX/Nuendo on
various projects. I came to these conclusions of the current state of DAW
affairs:
- Nuendo/SX-Nice sound. Clear and smooth and warm. After about 40 hot tracks,
the mixer and mix buss breaks down. Very hard to mix in at that point. Also,
mixer is very generic sounding. It won;t give you anything sonic wise. AND
please don't push the mixer nor the 2 track sum bus. Alls you get is headaches.
Paris- What can you say..? Even when you import those above SX/nuendo fiels
into a new PAris session, they start mixing on their own just by moving the
faders without even panning.You can hear into the mix. Wonderful!!!
Pro Tools.(6x) Again importing those same SX/Nuendo files into PT sessiion
and instant magic. Just like Paris, you can hear into the mix. the track
starts to mix itself. I would say after 50 tracks in
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60687 is a reply to message #60682] |
Sun, 27 November 2005 16:06 |
Edna Sloan
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------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C5F3B4.81D28ED0--Hi.
Wat is the conclusion?
How is the best or better?
Cubase, Pro tools or Paris?
RThanks!!!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>Hey Guys & Gals,
>
>I've been mixing a lot of projects these days on various Pro Tools systems
>( LE, Le-M-box,HD3) and I have to say that PT is sounding pretty darn good.
>It (Pro- Tools) has a nice high-end(10k) thing that's just sits right in
>todays music (Rock & R&B)..
>
>I came to this conclusion while also mixing int the box using SX/Nuendo
on
>various projects. I came to these conclusions of the current state of DAW
>affairs:
>
>- Nuendo/SX-Nice sound. Clear and smooth and warm. After about 40 hot tracks,
>the mixer and mix buss breaks down. Very hard to mix in at that point. Also,
>mixer is very generic sounding. It won;t give you anything sonic wise. AND
>please don't push the mixer nor the 2 track sum bus. Alls you get is headaches.
>
>Paris- What can you say..? Even when you import those above SX/nuendo fiels
>into a new PAris session, they start mixing on their own just by moving
the
>faders without even panning.You can hear into the mix. Wonderful!!!
>
>Pro Tools.(6x) Again importing those same SX/Nuendo files into PT sessiion
>and instant magic. Just like Paris, you can hear into the mix. the track
>starts to mix itself. I would say after 50 tracks in Pt things start to
>get a little finicky for hot mixes. But, if you stay in the -3db on the
master
>fader, then you should be fine.
>
>Sonar.. Nice plain jane sound. Very vanilla. Just right for those who do
>not what a sonic inprint on their tracks.
>
>LaMont, dude, best to stay away from spelling bees for a while. ;o)
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60688 is a reply to message #60686] |
Sun, 27 November 2005 16:13 |
Edna Sloan
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ot;LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>Paln.. Plans.. !! This is my Dream Setup . The Dm2K has been on to get list
>for 2006 along with PT.. This setup alows me yto styil control Paris as well.
>Nice , very very sweet...LaMont
>
>EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey guys,
>>
>>Well, I just had to pop up a pic of this. :-) I started building this
>>last month when the DM2K arrived, now I just finished assembling it.
>>I still have a lot of fill 'n finish to do, but it's up and running!
>>
>>For those who are curious, I have detailed photos of every step. I
>>will put them up on a page when time permits.
>>
>>Happy Thanksgiving to our southern neighbors!
>>
>>David.
>>Thanks for the reminder on that John. BT used to say the same thing. And
I have to agree. The few projects that I've recorded in 16bit have more
"slam" to 'em. Reminds me of a recent article I read about mixing. When
asked if he had any tips for mixers the (guru-of-mix --I think it was that
Elliot Schnieder or Schmidt guy -whatever...:)) said something like (gosh
-what a terrible memory) "I just turn the knobs until it sounds right."
I must admit, sometimes I let my ears be guided by my eyes. I see "24 bit"
and think "oooh that must be better." But the fact (or at least my fact)
is that, on some projects, 16 bit is the way to go.
(Mike R.)
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
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>For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
>in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
>stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
>bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
>agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
>
>
>
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60695 is a reply to message #60656] |
Mon, 28 November 2005 07:30 |
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>>For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
>>in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
>>stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
>>bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
>>agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
>> Was
>>>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
have
>>>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Edna
>>>
>>>
>>
>Hey guys,
Thanks for all the praise! It has been a lot of fun to build. :-)
I'll post another pic once I get the side panels mounted.
LaMont, the DM2K absolutely rocks... and there is a built in remote
layer for PT as well. The mic pre's are also really good. I was going
to keep the MCI around to use the pres, but I don't think it will be
nessisary... I'll just move it to another room.
LaMont wrote:
> Paln.. Plans.. !! This is my Dream Setup . The Dm2K has been on to get list
> for 2006 along with PT.. This setup alows me yto styil control Paris as well.
> Nice , very very sweet...LaMont
>
> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.
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| Re: Pro MEC 24 bit? [message #60736 is a reply to message #60728] |
Tue, 29 November 2005 09:49 |
John Macy
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quot; <Arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Just plain spooky.
> >
> >Tom
>
>
> I've seen the same thing in young classical players. When you get
> to know them a bit you realize it is a savant-like quickness in the
> mind that allows them to play at such unearthly levels. In a way, it
> is like Rain Man, if you know what I mean.
>
> Now comes the hard part. They have to learn everything else
> about music, and really apply themselves in the next few years to
> even maintain their current levels of playing. The *worst* thing that
> can happen is adults fawning over them and praising them to the
> sky and comparing them to the greats, and getting them record
> deals. Yet this is usually what happens. When it does, the prodigy
> disappears and is never heard from again.
>
> In classical, if you have a great teacher, they keep your nose to the
> wheel, and let you know that you have along way to go. The
> parents will be smart, and reserved with their praise and exposure of
> the child to the public.
>
> Then you can end up with another Mozart, but it is rare today; fame
> is too much of a drug to most people.
>
> I've seen these kids end up featured soloists with major symphonies
> and I've seen them disappear. It's all in the parents and the
> teachers.
>
> DC
>I saw a used "ultra match" (no pro) today in a Long and Mcquade in Toronto,
if that is any help.
All the best,
Mike
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Dear DJ,
>I may be able to find one here in Greece.
>What would you need Ultramatch or ADA-8000 ( I have one of those )
>Let me know if Greece is an option for you.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I am actually trying to source a Behringer product right now
>>(gasp!!!!.....yeah....I know ;o). The only Behringer product that I have
>>ever used that worked well and as advertized is an AD/DA/format converter
>>called the Ultramatch Pro SRC 2496. I've got one and need another one in
>>order to do something else bizarre with my routing matrix. Anyway, I have
>>scoured the internet for one of these to no avail. I was talking to a
>>retailer in Nashville ear
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