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Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90447 is a reply to message #90310] Mon, 24 September 2007 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I forget which trade show it was, but at one of the ones I went to in the
go-go 90's when I was an audio writer I stopped by the E-mu booth (the Ensoniq
sale was still pretty recent) to talk to SSC and Edmund. Brian T was there
and it was all a big happy family. We all thought then that E-mu would be
a great thing for the platform, some extra cash, a little more stability
in the business relationship, a high profile name with more space in retail
stores. Things looked peachy. And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in
group's marketing stuff. It looked EXACTLY like PARIS. We were all saying,
'Damn, PARIS must be doing something right if it's getting ripped off.'

Little did we know . . .

TCB

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
graphics
>and color?
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>
>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>
>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>
>>> look
>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>is
>>> a joy to look at.
>>>
>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
>
>>> must
>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>but
>>> N4
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>the
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>of
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>> an
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
>>>>alone
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90449 is a reply to message #90286] Mon, 24 September 2007 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46f7e217$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
>
> From the video it looks like any audio, group, fx or VST connection can be
> routed to any other. Not sure if it does all the same stuff but I beet you
> it i way easier to figure out how to do it. :)
>
>
> Chris
>

If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90453 is a reply to message #90326] Mon, 24 September 2007 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laMont [1] is currently offline  laMont [1]
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Thad, what ar you talking about? please explain.

"And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in group's marketing stuff. It
looked EXACTLY like PARIS"..






"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:



>
>I forget which trade show it was, but at one of the ones I went to in the
>go-go 90's when I was an audio writer I stopped by the E-mu booth (the Ensoniq
>sale was still pretty recent) to talk to SSC and Edmund. Brian T was there
>and it was all a big happy family. We all thought then that E-mu would be
>a great thing for the platform, some extra cash, a little more stability
>in the business relationship, a high profile name with more space in retail
>stores. Things looked peachy. And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in
>group's marketing stuff. It looked EXACTLY like PARIS. We were all saying,
>'Damn, PARIS must be doing something right if it's getting ripped off.'
>
>Little did we know . . .
>
>TCB
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
>graphics
>>and color?
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>
>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>
>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>>
>>>> look
>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>>is
>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
It
>>
>>>> must
>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>but
>>>> N4
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>the
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>of
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was

>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>for
>>>> an
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>>>>>alone
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
>as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90454 is a reply to message #90323] Mon, 24 September 2007 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laMont [1] is currently offline  laMont [1]
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I hear ya. But, CA seems tobe oblivious at times. They float and out markey
site quite often. Yammy needs a third arm division and not clupm band instruments,
kazzoos, home pianos with DAW products.



Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Lamont,
>Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
>separate machines.
>I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
>instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.
>
>Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
>Chris
>
>
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings
for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but
>>>> N4
>>>>
>>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>> Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>> of
>>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
before.
>>>>>
>>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>> ...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90459 is a reply to message #90328] Tue, 25 September 2007 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Those are called Sends.

>>
>
>If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90460 is a reply to message #90338] Tue, 25 September 2007 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f8edca$1@linux...
>
> Those are called Sends.
>
>>>
>>
>>If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
>>
>>
>

In Reaper I can take an input signal and route it simultaneously to a mono
output and to the stereo bus. That's what I want to be able to do in Cubase.

;o)
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90462 is a reply to message #90332] Tue, 25 September 2007 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@funk.com> wrote:
>
>Thad, what ar you talking about? please explain.
>
>"And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in group's marketing stuff. It
>looked EXACTLY like PARIS"..

Could it be...???

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/gold-series.php
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90465 is a reply to message #90339] Tue, 25 September 2007 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey DJ,

It's funny because the Roland VS boxes has nad very flexible routing since
the 1680. You can take any input,and route it all over the place.

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f8edca$1@linux...
>>
>> Those are called Sends.
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>In Reaper I can take an input signal and route it simultaneously to a mono

>output and to the stereo bus. That's what I want to be able to do in Cubase.
>
>;o)
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90470 is a reply to message #90344] Tue, 25 September 2007 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think you would need senderella or something like it.
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90471 is a reply to message #90349] Tue, 25 September 2007 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f93c8b$1@linux...
>
> I think you would need senderella or something like it.

It's possible to do this in Reaper with the click of a mouse. I've never
seen anything like the routing possibilities in that app. Of course, if
Cubase could route like Reaper, the control room function would be
redundant, plus it could be used with ASIO direct monitoring. God forbid
that something should work easily and without latency issues.

;o)
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90472 is a reply to message #90350] Tue, 25 September 2007 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This would require "source" assignment, rather than output assignment.
In other words, assign a source to a particular output (or multiple
outs) instead of assigning an output to a channel or send.

David.

DJ wrote:
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f93c8b$1@linux...
>
>>I think you would need senderella or something like it.
>
>
> It's possible to do this in Reaper with the click of a mouse. I've never
> seen anything like the routing possibilities in that app. Of course, if
> Cubase could route like Reaper, the control room function would be
> redundant, plus it could be used with ASIO direct monitoring. God forbid
> that something should work easily and without latency issues.
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90473 is a reply to message #90351] Tue, 25 September 2007 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f940a6@linux...
> This would require "source" assignment, rather than output assignment. In
> other words, assign a source to a particular output (or multiple outs)
> instead of assigning an output to a channel or send.
>
> David.
>

What you said bro. That's the ticket for me. If Reaper can do
it...well.......hmmm.....
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90474 is a reply to message #90352] Tue, 25 September 2007 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Deej, why don't you set up various Group Channels that go to
whichever outputs you need them to, and send track channels to
the groups via EFX sends? This is for your outboard EFX
routing, right?

Neil


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f940a6@linux...
>> This would require "source" assignment, rather than output assignment.
In
>> other words, assign a source to a particular output (or multiple outs)

>> instead of assigning an output to a channel or send.
>>
>> David.
>>
>
>What you said bro. That's the ticket for me. If Reaper can do
>it...well.......hmmm.....
>
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90479 is a reply to message #90311] Tue, 25 September 2007 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Well.... Paris' interface was cool, but it took up quite a bit of space
that
>would limit functionality in most DAWs today.
>I wasn't really into the gold thing personally, but hey, it worked for
>Midas. ;-) I gravitate toward blue/greys, so I'm okay with
>Nuendo/C4's interfaces.
>
>Dedric
>

Back when I was selling Paris some people expressed these same thoughts,
especially if they came from Cubase or Logic. I would try to get potential
customers to look at that non hardware demo and they would get turned off
by the color and the look. I got asked if it had skins here and there.
Some loved it and some thought it was yuk.

By the way, I'm glad we're on to different subjects.

James

>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>>
>> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface

>> graphics
>> and color?
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>
>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>
>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>>
>>>> look
>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>> is
>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
It
>>
>>>> must
>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but
>>>> N4
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>> of
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>>> an
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>>>>>alone
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90480 is a reply to message #90312] Tue, 25 September 2007 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As I basically said recently, I think the 64bit thing will happen in time
and everybody will be doing it. I also think that most of the objections
to Vista for audio will be resolved in time also.

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>> features are in a league of their own..
>>
>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>>
>> N4
>>
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>
>> an
>>
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90485 is a reply to message #90306] Mon, 24 September 2007 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface graphics
and color?

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>
>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet

>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>
>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic

>> look
>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
is
>> a joy to look at.
>>
>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It

>> must
>> be a German thing. :)
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>> N4
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>> an
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands

>>>alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90486 is a reply to message #90310] Mon, 24 September 2007 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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Well.... Paris' interface was cool, but it took up quite a bit of space that
would limit functionality in most DAWs today.
I wasn't really into the gold thing personally, but hey, it worked for
Midas. ;-) I gravitate toward blue/greys, so I'm okay with
Nuendo/C4's interfaces.

Dedric

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>
> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
> graphics
> and color?
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>
>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>
>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>
>>> look
>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
> is
>>> a joy to look at.
>>>
>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
>
>>> must
>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
> but
>>> N4
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
> the
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
> of
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>> an
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
>>>>alone
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90487 is a reply to message #90301] Mon, 24 September 2007 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)

David.

LaMont wrote:
> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
> features are in a league of their own..
>
> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>
>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>
> N4
>
>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>>Highlights:
>>
>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>
>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>
> an
>
>>FX database - also great for post)
>>
>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>
>>...etc...
>>
>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>well.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90491 is a reply to message #90278] Mon, 24 September 2007 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
Messages: 126
Registered: March 2007
Senior Member
Was just there seconds ago looking at this because I need to import some
Cubase SX3 and Nuendo audio into PARIS. See new thread on this for anyone
wanting to share knowledge.

WMW

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C31D29A0.CFA6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>N4
> was just released - shipping in early October:
>
> Highlights:
>
> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
> before.
>
> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>
> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>
> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
> an
> FX database - also great for post)
>
> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
> automatic
> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>
> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>
> ...etc...
>
> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>
> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
> alone
> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
> well.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90493 is a reply to message #90312] Mon, 24 September 2007 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laMont [1] is currently offline  laMont [1]
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2007
Member
Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings for
all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the DAW
controller glory?


EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>> features are in a league of their own..
>>
>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>>
>> N4
>>
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>
>> an
>>
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90495 is a reply to message #90318] Mon, 24 September 2007 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Patience... ;-)

Daveid.

LaMont wrote:
> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings for
> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the DAW
> controller glory?
>
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>
>>>Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>>features are in a league of their own..
>>>
>>>Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>
> but
>
>>>N4
>>>
>>>
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>
> the
>
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>
> of
>
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
> alone
>
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90496 is a reply to message #90320] Mon, 24 September 2007 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
David....care to expound on that hint, on or offline? ;-)

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f8375e@linux...
> Patience... ;-)
>
> Daveid.
>
> LaMont wrote:
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings
>> for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
>> DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>>Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new
>>>>editing
>>>>features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>>Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>
>> but
>>
>>>>N4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
>>>>>much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>an
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
>>>>>VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>> alone
>>
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90498 is a reply to message #90318] Mon, 24 September 2007 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
Hi Lamont,
Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
separate machines.
I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.

Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
Chris



LaMont wrote:
> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings for
> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the DAW
> controller glory?
>
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> LaMont wrote:
>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>
>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
> but
>>> N4
>>>
>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>> Highlights:
>>>>
>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
> the
>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
> of
>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>>
>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>> an
>>>
>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>> ...etc...
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
> alone
>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90500 is a reply to message #90323] Mon, 24 September 2007 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
Senior Member
Amen...

David.

Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hi Lamont,
> Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
> separate machines.
> I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
> instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.
>
> Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
> Chris
>
>
>
> LaMont wrote:
>
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's
>> offerings for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
>> DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new
>>>> editing
>>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>
>> but
>>
>>>> N4
>>>>
>>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>> Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
>>>>> much
>>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite
>>>>> well for
>>>>
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>> automatic
>>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
>>>>> VST3
>>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>> ...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>> alone
>>
>>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for
>>>>> me as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90501 is a reply to message #90310] Mon, 24 September 2007 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
Senior Member
I forget which trade show it was, but at one of the ones I went to in the
go-go 90's when I was an audio writer I stopped by the E-mu booth (the Ensoniq
sale was still pretty recent) to talk to SSC and Edmund. Brian T was there
and it was all a big happy family. We all thought then that E-mu would be
a great thing for the platform, some extra cash, a little more stability
in the business relationship, a high profile name with more space in retail
stores. Things looked peachy. And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in
group's marketing stuff. It looked EXACTLY like PARIS. We were all saying,
'Damn, PARIS must be doing something right if it's getting ripped off.'

Little did we know . . .

TCB

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
graphics
>and color?
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>
>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>
>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>
>>> look
>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>is
>>> a joy to look at.
>>>
>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
>
>>> must
>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>but
>>> N4
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>the
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>of
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>> an
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
>>>>alone
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90503 is a reply to message #90286] Mon, 24 September 2007 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46f7e217$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
>
> From the video it looks like any audio, group, fx or VST connection can be
> routed to any other. Not sure if it does all the same stuff but I beet you
> it i way easier to figure out how to do it. :)
>
>
> Chris
>

If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90507 is a reply to message #90326] Mon, 24 September 2007 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laMont [1] is currently offline  laMont [1]
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2007
Member
Thad, what ar you talking about? please explain.

"And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in group's marketing stuff. It
looked EXACTLY like PARIS"..






"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:



>
>I forget which trade show it was, but at one of the ones I went to in the
>go-go 90's when I was an audio writer I stopped by the E-mu booth (the Ensoniq
>sale was still pretty recent) to talk to SSC and Edmund. Brian T was there
>and it was all a big happy family. We all thought then that E-mu would be
>a great thing for the platform, some extra cash, a little more stability
>in the business relationship, a high profile name with more space in retail
>stores. Things looked peachy. And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in
>group's marketing stuff. It looked EXACTLY like PARIS. We were all saying,
>'Damn, PARIS must be doing something right if it's getting ripped off.'
>
>Little did we know . . .
>
>TCB
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
>graphics
>>and color?
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>
>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>
>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>>
>>>> look
>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>>is
>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
It
>>
>>>> must
>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>but
>>>> N4
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>the
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>of
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was

>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>for
>>>> an
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>>>>>alone
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
>as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90508 is a reply to message #90323] Mon, 24 September 2007 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laMont [1] is currently offline  laMont [1]
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2007
Member
I hear ya. But, CA seems tobe oblivious at times. They float and out markey
site quite often. Yammy needs a third arm division and not clupm band instruments,
kazzoos, home pianos with DAW products.



Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Lamont,
>Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
>separate machines.
>I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
>instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.
>
>Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
>Chris
>
>
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings
for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but
>>>> N4
>>>>
>>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>> Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>> of
>>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
before.
>>>>>
>>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>> ...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90513 is a reply to message #90328] Tue, 25 September 2007 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Those are called Sends.

>>
>
>If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90514 is a reply to message #90338] Tue, 25 September 2007 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f8edca$1@linux...
>
> Those are called Sends.
>
>>>
>>
>>If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
>>
>>
>

In Reaper I can take an input signal and route it simultaneously to a mono
output and to the stereo bus. That's what I want to be able to do in Cubase.

;o)
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90516 is a reply to message #90332] Tue, 25 September 2007 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@funk.com> wrote:
>
>Thad, what ar you talking about? please explain.
>
>"And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in group's marketing stuff. It
>looked EXACTLY like PARIS"..

Could it be...???

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/gold-series.php
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90519 is a reply to message #90339] Tue, 25 September 2007 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey DJ,

It's funny because the Roland VS boxes has nad very flexible routing since
the 1680. You can take any input,and route it all over the place.

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f8edca$1@linux...
>>
>> Those are called Sends.
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If I can't assign an input to multiple outputs I will die.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>In Reaper I can take an input signal and route it simultaneously to a mono

>output and to the stereo bus. That's what I want to be able to do in Cubase.
>
>;o)
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90524 is a reply to message #90344] Tue, 25 September 2007 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think you would need senderella or something like it.
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90525 is a reply to message #90349] Tue, 25 September 2007 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f93c8b$1@linux...
>
> I think you would need senderella or something like it.

It's possible to do this in Reaper with the click of a mouse. I've never
seen anything like the routing possibilities in that app. Of course, if
Cubase could route like Reaper, the control room function would be
redundant, plus it could be used with ASIO direct monitoring. God forbid
that something should work easily and without latency issues.

;o)
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90526 is a reply to message #90350] Tue, 25 September 2007 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This would require "source" assignment, rather than output assignment.
In other words, assign a source to a particular output (or multiple
outs) instead of assigning an output to a channel or send.

David.

DJ wrote:
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46f93c8b$1@linux...
>
>>I think you would need senderella or something like it.
>
>
> It's possible to do this in Reaper with the click of a mouse. I've never
> seen anything like the routing possibilities in that app. Of course, if
> Cubase could route like Reaper, the control room function would be
> redundant, plus it could be used with ASIO direct monitoring. God forbid
> that something should work easily and without latency issues.
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90527 is a reply to message #90351] Tue, 25 September 2007 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f940a6@linux...
> This would require "source" assignment, rather than output assignment. In
> other words, assign a source to a particular output (or multiple outs)
> instead of assigning an output to a channel or send.
>
> David.
>

What you said bro. That's the ticket for me. If Reaper can do
it...well.......hmmm.....
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90528 is a reply to message #90352] Tue, 25 September 2007 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Deej, why don't you set up various Group Channels that go to
whichever outputs you need them to, and send track channels to
the groups via EFX sends? This is for your outboard EFX
routing, right?

Neil


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f940a6@linux...
>> This would require "source" assignment, rather than output assignment.
In
>> other words, assign a source to a particular output (or multiple outs)

>> instead of assigning an output to a channel or send.
>>
>> David.
>>
>
>What you said bro. That's the ticket for me. If Reaper can do
>it...well.......hmmm.....
>
>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90533 is a reply to message #90311] Tue, 25 September 2007 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Well.... Paris' interface was cool, but it took up quite a bit of space
that
>would limit functionality in most DAWs today.
>I wasn't really into the gold thing personally, but hey, it worked for
>Midas. ;-) I gravitate toward blue/greys, so I'm okay with
>Nuendo/C4's interfaces.
>
>Dedric
>

Back when I was selling Paris some people expressed these same thoughts,
especially if they came from Cubase or Logic. I would try to get potential
customers to look at that non hardware demo and they would get turned off
by the color and the look. I got asked if it had skins here and there.
Some loved it and some thought it was yuk.

By the way, I'm glad we're on to different subjects.

James

>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>>
>> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface

>> graphics
>> and color?
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>
>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>
>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>>
>>>> look
>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>> is
>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
It
>>
>>>> must
>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but
>>>> N4
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>> of
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>>> an
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>>>>>alone
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90534 is a reply to message #90312] Tue, 25 September 2007 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As I basically said recently, I think the 64bit thing will happen in time
and everybody will be doing it. I also think that most of the objections
to Vista for audio will be resolved in time also.

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>> features are in a league of their own..
>>
>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>>
>> N4
>>
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>
>> an
>>
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90539 is a reply to message #90359] Tue, 25 September 2007 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Huh... wha... was that a positive post about Vista??? nah..... ;-)

David.

James McCloskey wrote:
> As I basically said recently, I think the 64bit thing will happen in time
> and everybody will be doing it. I also think that most of the objections
> to Vista for audio will be resolved in time also.
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>
>>>Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>>features are in a league of their own..
>>>
>>>Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>
> but
>
>>>N4
>>>
>>>
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>
> the
>
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>
> of
>
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
> alone
>
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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