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| Re: Saw this video today on Behringer manufacturing, and thought of Deej the whole time I was watchi [message #94338 is a reply to message #94323] |
Thu, 03 January 2008 22:49   |
excelav
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"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>http://www.audiotechnology.com.au/behringer.html
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I've seen these videos in the past. I don't see the dirt floor factories,
but they do exist. It's great that you can now buy a two dollar rubber hammer
that's made in China, but we are paying over three dollars for a gallon of
gas. Being that I live in Detroit, the motor city, a manufacturing city
/ state, I have to say, free trade is not free right now, it costs American
jobs. It is costing us our standard of living. I would encourage people
to stop buying Chinese products, or at least slow down. Everybody should
be writing their congressmen about changing our trade agreements.
Just my .02
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| Re: Saw this video today on Behringer manufacturing, and thought of Deej the whole time I was watchi [message #94342 is a reply to message #94338] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 02:32 |
Kim W
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Three bucks for a gallon of gas???
Sheesh, in Australia petrol has hit US$5.00 per U.S. gallon. (3.8 litres).
But if you think that's bad, my housemate just got back from the UK,
and it's over US$8.00 there.
Live it up!! Me??, I'm gonna buy me another rubber mallet...:-))
Kim
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>http://www.audiotechnology.com.au/behringer.html
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>I've seen these videos in the past. I don't see the dirt floor factories,
>but they do exist. It's great that you can now buy a two dollar rubber
hammer
>that's made in China, but we are paying over three dollars for a gallon
of
>gas. Being that I live in Detroit, the motor city, a manufacturing city
>/ state, I have to say, free trade is not free right now, it costs American
>jobs. It is costing us our standard of living. I would encourage people
>to stop buying Chinese products, or at least slow down. Everybody should
>be writing their congressmen about changing our trade agreements.
>
>Just my .02
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| Re: Saw this video today on Behringer manufacturing, and thought of Deej the whole time I was watchi [message #94344 is a reply to message #94342] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 06:15 |
Cujjo
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Yip I too just got back from the UK, about 1.02 pounds per litre..more like
9.00 US dollars a gallon.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
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>Three bucks for a gallon of gas???
>Sheesh, in Australia petrol has hit US$5.00 per U.S. gallon. (3.8 litres).
>But if you think that's bad, my housemate just got back from the UK,
>and it's over US$8.00 there.
>Live it up!! Me??, I'm gonna buy me another rubber mallet...:-))
>Kim
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>http://www.audiotechnology.com.au/behringer.html
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>>I've seen these videos in the past. I don't see the dirt floor factories,
>>but they do exist. It's great that you can now buy a two dollar rubber
>hammer
>>that's made in China, but we are paying over three dollars for a gallon
>of
>>gas. Being that I live in Detroit, the motor city, a manufacturing city
>>/ state, I have to say, free trade is not free right now, it costs American
>>jobs. It is costing us our standard of living. I would encourage people
>>to stop buying Chinese products, or at least slow down. Everybody should
>>be writing their congressmen about changing our trade agreements.
>>
>>Just my .02
>
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| Re: Saw this video today on Behringer manufacturing, and thought of Deej the whole time I was watchi [message #94346 is a reply to message #94338] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 06:37 |
Erling
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Hmm...look at Mackie, an American firm where their owners saw more $
in China too. Sorry to say but investments of capital have no native
country at all, especially not when the world is being globalized the
way it is. Not any congressmen in America, or else in the world can
change that.
And now we have Russia on good way back in time for the people, with
Putin that's now going in front with the power with echonomic help
from Russian oil and gas and also with good help from his old KGB
friends from the old Sovjet. Putin is now controlling some of the
biggest oil and gasfields in the world. With the oil and gaspower,
Putin can really set Russia back in position for the top in the world.
The western world are extremely needing Putins oil and gas and is
doing nearly everything to be friend with him. If we're talking about
a form for worldpower-poker here, I can say Putin now seems to have
the best cards on his hands to get back the power of the world, as it
seems that Bush and his administration now have destroyed for America
with their "Texas-pokerplayings" around the world the last 7 years,
after the Sept. 11 attack.
It's not many weeks ago since Putin demonstrated his new military
power right besides the Norwegian oilproducing installations in The
Nort Sea, right out from here where I'm living.
The Russian military activity have been dead in the North Atlantic
Ocean since the collaps of Sovjet. Now it's like old cold wardays
again are coming here. So it shows up really well that Putin are
demonstrating that he now have the power to show the world he can also
tackle political problems outside Russia. By the way, the Russian Navy
with both ships and aircrafts that demonstrated their power here, have
sailed into the Meditterranian Sea, just showing up that they again
can both protect or destroy.
The world need oil and gas, so worldleaders are standing in cue to be
friends with Putin and kiss him. Also Bush have been over in Russia to
give Putin some friendly kisses and great smiles. So Putin and Russia
must have some kind of things that the western world extremely well
need for the future, to build up a form for "friendship".
Chinese workers are "stealing" western jobs, not only from American
people but from the whole western world, but with money from the
western world's investors, that only have money and power as their
native countries. Uli Behringer is just one of them that saw a new way
to sell, as Jamie Engen, the President of Loud Technologies, also
knows a lot about.
Just my 2 cents sitting outside USA and also getting political
informations from different places in the western world.
Sorry, couldn't hold me from the political arena after some years of
saying nothing;-) Generally, I should wrote this in General, but it
seems General is more dead then alive;-)
Erling
On 4 Jan 2008 16:49:38 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>I have to say, free trade is not free right now, it costs American
>jobs. It is costing us our standard of living. I would encourage people
>to stop buying Chinese products, or at least slow down. Everybody should
>be writing their congressmen about changing our trade agreements.
>
>Just my .02
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| Re: Saw this video today on Behringer manufacturing, and thought [message #94347 is a reply to message #94346] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 08:00 |
Dedric Terry
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Good observations Erling - didn't know about Putin and Russia's military
build up - interesting.
Imho, a globalized economy can be fine, albeit an adjustment for both sides
- for established countries, it can mean lower quality goods, lost jobs,
etc. But on the flip side, underindustrialized countries have to improve
quality and working conditions/compensation to keep workers at home (look at
Mexico). China seems to be improving slowly. At the same time, the US and
other countries have to establish our own balance of overseas manufacturing
vs. what jobs we keep at home.
Also imho, oil is possibly the single most detrimental factor to this
balance - it's like getting a kid addicted to candy and then telling him to
exercise daily, eat right, and lead a balanced life, while slowly feeding
him more and more costly candy to keep him on task. Doesn't work.
The world needs to move away from oil as an energy source. It isn't
renewable unless we live to be 10,000,000 and our population never grows
(another problem that needs to be addressed - growth as a prosperity goal -
it's a dead end as well).
I'm seriously hoping to be able to go hybrid with our next cars. With US
gas prices projected to pass $4/gal this summer (I know that's not much
compared to the UK, Aus, etc), it's long past time to make changes. At this
point, I think we are lessening the damage, not solving a problem, so we as
a civilization are living on borrowed time.
Just my .02. Sorry to further extend the OT drift of this thread.
BTW - couldn't get the original link to work, but I found the videos on
YouTube - interesting. Can't say I like Behringer more, or less - just
interesting.
Also interesting, apparently the new Euphonix controllers are manufactured
in China - that's how they went from a $16k controller down to a $1500
version.
Regards,
Dedric
On 1/4/08 7:37 AM, in article ve8sn35e6r6h30evkc9uo4n74olnt3lsto@4ax.com,
"erlilo" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
> Hmm...look at Mackie, an American firm where their owners saw more $
> in China too. Sorry to say but investments of capital have no native
> country at all, especially not when the world is being globalized the
> way it is. Not any congressmen in America, or else in the world can
> change that.
> And now we have Russia on good way back in time for the people, with
> Putin that's now going in front with the power with echonomic help
> from Russian oil and gas and also with good help from his old KGB
> friends from the old Sovjet. Putin is now controlling some of the
> biggest oil and gasfields in the world. With the oil and gaspower,
> Putin can really set Russia back in position for the top in the world.
> The western world are extremely needing Putins oil and gas and is
> doing nearly everything to be friend with him. If we're talking about
> a form for worldpower-poker here, I can say Putin now seems to have
> the best cards on his hands to get back the power of the world, as it
> seems that Bush and his administration now have destroyed for America
> with their "Texas-pokerplayings" around the world the last 7 years,
> after the Sept. 11 attack.
> It's not many weeks ago since Putin demonstrated his new military
> power right besides the Norwegian oilproducing installations in The
> Nort Sea, right out from here where I'm living.
> The Russian military activity have been dead in the North Atlantic
> Ocean since the collaps of Sovjet. Now it's like old cold wardays
> again are coming here. So it shows up really well that Putin are
> demonstrating that he now have the power to show the world he can also
> tackle political problems outside Russia. By the way, the Russian Navy
> with both ships and aircrafts that demonstrated their power here, have
> sailed into the Meditterranian Sea, just showing up that they again
> can both protect or destroy.
> The world need oil and gas, so worldleaders are standing in cue to be
> friends with Putin and kiss him. Also Bush have been over in Russia to
> give Putin some friendly kisses and great smiles. So Putin and Russia
> must have some kind of things that the western world extremely well
> need for the future, to build up a form for "friendship".
> Chinese workers are "stealing" western jobs, not only from American
> people but from the whole western world, but with money from the
> western world's investors, that only have money and power as their
> native countries. Uli Behringer is just one of them that saw a new way
> to sell, as Jamie Engen, the President of Loud Technologies, also
> knows a lot about.
>
> Just my 2 cents sitting outside USA and also getting political
> informations from different places in the western world.
>
> Sorry, couldn't hold me from the political arena after some years of
> saying nothing;-) Generally, I should wrote this in General, but it
> seems General is more dead then alive;-)
>
> Erling
>
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2008 16:49:38 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have to say, free trade is not free right now, it costs American
>> jobs. It is costing us our standard of living. I would encourage people
>> to stop buying Chinese products, or at least slow down. Everybody should
>> be writing their congressmen about changing our trade agreements.
>>
>> Just my .02
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