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| Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102524] |
Mon, 16 February 2009 13:46  |
John Cookman
Messages: 1
Registered: February 2009
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Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with one 8in card
and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals to all my
inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and my 442
are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels but I can
not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the signal coming
through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the Mix B section.
Can anyone help me get this going?
Thanks,
John Cookman
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102534 is a reply to message #102527] |
Mon, 16 February 2009 18:27  |
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If my recollection is accurate, EDS1000 and EDS 1000x are the same card, the
"x" just indicated cards that were sold with crossover cables (the ribbon
connectors that connect the EDS cards inside the computer); the ones without
FX daughterboards are EDS500 cards.
How are your ribbon connections between the cards, all solid? No bent or
oxidized pins etc?
- K
On 2/16/09 3:06 PM, in article 4999e377$1@linux, "john cookman"
<jcookman@sagu.com> wrote:
>
> yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to show any
> signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>
> tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>
> the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer B.
>
> i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see signal
> on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no signal
> showing in Mixer B.
>
> i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning i can
> record through the 442 like normal.
>
> i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing happens. so
> its not one of the cards.
>
> also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have 1
> installed.
> then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master... the problem
> occurs.
>
> i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue... running
> to different type cards?
>
> i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for a couple
> years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>
> sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just stuck.
> maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of something i
> haven't.
>
> thanks.
>
> john
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>> Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>> Hmmm?
>>
>> Tom
>
>
>>
>>
>> "John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with one 8in
>
>>> card
>>> and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals to all
> my
>>> inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and my 442
>>> are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels but I
> can
>>> not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the signal
>
>>> coming
>>> through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the Mix B
>
>>> section.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John Cookman
>>
>>
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102537 is a reply to message #102536] |
Mon, 16 February 2009 21:17 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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john
I think it is a 75 ohm cable. If the mec is connectd to card A, go from
the Mec word CLock out to the 442 WC in (at least in my mind. Haven't
had Paris out for a couple months)
:-)
Jeff
wrote:
> i do not have word clock connected. i don't remember which end needs to be
> terminated.
>
> i get a screen shot of the patch bay up in a few minutes.
>
> thanks.
>
> john
>
>
> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>john,
>>
>>Are you using a word clock or did you connect the word clock connectors
>
>
>>on the two units? Also, if you could post a screen shot of the patch bay.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>>thanks Tom.
>>>
>>>yeah i did that... put the 442 on card A and mec on card B. the 442 works
>>>fine that way... but then i can't get the mec inputs to record on card
>
> B.
>
>>> it's very strange.
>>>
>>>john
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>John,
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure how the EDS 1000 plays into this. I thought
>>>>it didn't allow effects and that was the only difference from
>>>>a 1000X.???
>>>>
>>>>I know I had this same sort of problem with three cards and 2 Mecs.
>>>>The second Mec had to be connected to the first and last EDS cards
>>>>for them to work properly. Doesn't seem like this is your problem
>>>>with only two cards though.
>>>>
>>>>I hope someone else can chime in here. I know 442s can be finicky
>>>>in multi card systems. Some say that it has to be connected to the Master
>>>>card. Might try that and put the Mec on card B just to see.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"john cookman" <jcookman@sagu.com> wrote in message news:4999e377$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to show
>>>
>>>any
>>>
>>>
>>>>>signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>>>>>
>>>>>tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>>>>>
>>>>>the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer
>
> B.
>
>>>>>i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see signal
>>>>>on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no signal
>>>>>showing in Mixer B.
>>>>>
>>>>>i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning i
>
> can
>
>>>>>record through the 442 like normal.
>>>>>
>>>>>i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing happens.
>>>
>>> so
>>>
>>>
>>>>>its not one of the cards.
>>>>>
>>>>>also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have 1
>>>
>>>
>>>>>installed.
>>>>>then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master... the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>problem
>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>
>>>>>i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue... running
>>>>>to different type cards?
>>>>>
>>>>>i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for a couple
>>>>>years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just stuck.
>>>>>maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of something
>>>
>>>i
>>>
>>>
>>>>>haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>>>>>>Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>>>>>>Hmmm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with one
>>>
>>>8in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals to
>>>
>>>all
>>>
>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and my
>>>
>>>442
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels but
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the signal
>>>>>
>>>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the Mix
>>>
>>>B
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>section.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>John Cookman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102538 is a reply to message #102536] |
Mon, 16 February 2009 21:52 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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This is going to be the problem. Gotta have that word clock bro. Go from
word clock out of whatever you have on card A (MEC, 442) into the word clock
in of whatever you have on card B (MEC, 442).
AA
"john" <john@john.com> wrote in message news:499a3bb5$1@linux...
>
> i do not have word clock connected. i don't remember which end needs to
> be
> terminated.
>
> i get a screen shot of the patch bay up in a few minutes.
>
> thanks.
>
> john
>
>
> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>john,
>>
>>Are you using a word clock or did you connect the word clock connectors
>
>>on the two units? Also, if you could post a screen shot of the patch
>>bay.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>> thanks Tom.
>>>
>>> yeah i did that... put the 442 on card A and mec on card B. the 442
>>> works
>>> fine that way... but then i can't get the mec inputs to record on card
> B.
>>> it's very strange.
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>John,
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure how the EDS 1000 plays into this. I thought
>>>>it didn't allow effects and that was the only difference from
>>>>a 1000X.???
>>>>
>>>>I know I had this same sort of problem with three cards and 2 Mecs.
>>>>The second Mec had to be connected to the first and last EDS cards
>>>>for them to work properly. Doesn't seem like this is your problem
>>>>with only two cards though.
>>>>
>>>>I hope someone else can chime in here. I know 442s can be finicky
>>>>in multi card systems. Some say that it has to be connected to the
>>>>Master
>>>>card. Might try that and put the Mec on card B just to see.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"john cookman" <jcookman@sagu.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4999e377$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to show
>>>
>>> any
>>>
>>>>>signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>>>>>
>>>>>tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>>>>>
>>>>>the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer
> B.
>>>>>
>>>>>i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see
>>>>>signal
>>>>>on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no
>>>>>signal
>>>>>showing in Mixer B.
>>>>>
>>>>>i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning i
> can
>>>>>record through the 442 like normal.
>>>>>
>>>>>i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing happens.
>>>
>>> so
>>>
>>>>>its not one of the cards.
>>>>>
>>>>>also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have 1
>>>
>>>
>>>>>installed.
>>>>>then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master... the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>problem
>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>
>>>>>i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue...
>>>>>running
>>>>>to different type cards?
>>>>>
>>>>>i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for a
>>>>>couple
>>>>>years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just stuck.
>>>>>maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of something
>>>
>>> i
>>>
>>>>>haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>>>>>>Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>>>>>>Hmmm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with one
>>>
>>> 8in
>>>
>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals to
>>>
>>> all
>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>>inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and my
>>>
>>> 442
>>>
>>>>>>>are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels but
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>>can
>>>>>
>>>>>>>not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the
>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>
>>>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the Mix
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>>>>>section.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>John Cookman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102542 is a reply to message #102538] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 14:20 |
john[5]
Messages: 2
Registered: February 2009
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ok i will try this. doesn't something have to be terminated?
thanks aaron.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>This is going to be the problem. Gotta have that word clock bro. Go from
>word clock out of whatever you have on card A (MEC, 442) into the word clock
>in of whatever you have on card B (MEC, 442).
>AA
>
>
>"john" <john@john.com> wrote in message news:499a3bb5$1@linux...
>>
>> i do not have word clock connected. i don't remember which end needs
to
>> be
>> terminated.
>>
>> i get a screen shot of the patch bay up in a few minutes.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> john
>>
>>
>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>john,
>>>
>>>Are you using a word clock or did you connect the word clock connectors
>>
>>>on the two units? Also, if you could post a screen shot of the patch
>>>bay.
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>> thanks Tom.
>>>>
>>>> yeah i did that... put the 442 on card A and mec on card B. the 442
>>>> works
>>>> fine that way... but then i can't get the mec inputs to record on card
>> B.
>>>> it's very strange.
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>John,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure how the EDS 1000 plays into this. I thought
>>>>>it didn't allow effects and that was the only difference from
>>>>>a 1000X.???
>>>>>
>>>>>I know I had this same sort of problem with three cards and 2 Mecs.
>>>>>The second Mec had to be connected to the first and last EDS cards
>>>>>for them to work properly. Doesn't seem like this is your problem
>>>>>with only two cards though.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope someone else can chime in here. I know 442s can be finicky
>>>>>in multi card systems. Some say that it has to be connected to the
>>>>>Master
>>>>>card. Might try that and put the Mec on card B just to see.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck,
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"john cookman" <jcookman@sagu.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4999e377$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to show
>>>>
>>>> any
>>>>
>>>>>>signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer
>> B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see
>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no
>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>showing in Mixer B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning
i
>> can
>>>>>>record through the 442 like normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing happens.
>>>>
>>>> so
>>>>
>>>>>>its not one of the cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have
1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>installed.
>>>>>>then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master... the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue...
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>to different type cards?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for a
>>>>>>couple
>>>>>>years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just stuck.
>>>>>>maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of something
>>>>
>>>> i
>>>>
>>>>>>haven't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>john
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>>>>>>>Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>>>>>>>Hmmm?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with
one
>>>>
>>>> 8in
>>>>
>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals
to
>>>>
>>>> all
>>>>
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and
my
>>>>
>>>> 442
>>>>
>>>>>>>>are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels but
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>>>can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the
>>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>>through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the Mix
>>>>
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>>>>>>section.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>John Cookman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102543 is a reply to message #102542] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 14:40 |
john cookman[2]
Messages: 1
Registered: February 2009
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that was it! word clock did it... i just need to make sure i don't need a
termination somewhere.
thanks guys!
"john cookman" <john@john.com> wrote:
>
>ok i will try this. doesn't something have to be terminated?
>
>thanks aaron.
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>This is going to be the problem. Gotta have that word clock bro. Go from
>
>>word clock out of whatever you have on card A (MEC, 442) into the word
clock
>
>>in of whatever you have on card B (MEC, 442).
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"john" <john@john.com> wrote in message news:499a3bb5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> i do not have word clock connected. i don't remember which end needs
>to
>>> be
>>> terminated.
>>>
>>> i get a screen shot of the patch bay up in a few minutes.
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>john,
>>>>
>>>>Are you using a word clock or did you connect the word clock connectors
>>>
>>>>on the two units? Also, if you could post a screen shot of the patch
>
>>>>bay.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> thanks Tom.
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah i did that... put the 442 on card A and mec on card B. the 442
>
>>>>> works
>>>>> fine that way... but then i can't get the mec inputs to record on card
>>> B.
>>>>> it's very strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not sure how the EDS 1000 plays into this. I thought
>>>>>>it didn't allow effects and that was the only difference from
>>>>>>a 1000X.???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know I had this same sort of problem with three cards and 2 Mecs.
>>>>>>The second Mec had to be connected to the first and last EDS cards
>>>>>>for them to work properly. Doesn't seem like this is your problem
>>>>>>with only two cards though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope someone else can chime in here. I know 442s can be finicky
>>>>>>in multi card systems. Some say that it has to be connected to the
>
>>>>>>Master
>>>>>>card. Might try that and put the Mec on card B just to see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good luck,
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"john cookman" <jcookman@sagu.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4999e377$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to
show
>>>>>
>>>>> any
>>>>>
>>>>>>>signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer
>>> B.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see
>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no
>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>showing in Mixer B.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning
>i
>>> can
>>>>>>>record through the 442 like normal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>>>>its not one of the cards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have
>1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>installed.
>>>>>>>then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master...
the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue...
>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>to different type cards?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for
a
>
>>>>>>>couple
>>>>>>>years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just stuck.
>>>>>>>maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of something
>>>>>
>>>>> i
>>>>>
>>>>>>>haven't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>john
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi John,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>>>>>>>>Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>>>>>>>>Hmmm?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with
>one
>>>>>
>>>>> 8in
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals
>to
>>>>>
>>>>> all
>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and
>my
>>>>>
>>>>> 442
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels
but
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the
>>>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>>>through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the
Mix
>>>>>
>>>>> B
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>section.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>John Cookman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102544 is a reply to message #102543] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 14:09 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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It should work fine without termination, but if you want to, you can put
a 75 Ohm terminator at the output of the last device.
David.
john cookman wrote:
> that was it! word clock did it... i just need to make sure i don't need a
> termination somewhere.
>
> thanks guys!
>
>
>
>
> "john cookman" <john@john.com> wrote:
>> ok i will try this. doesn't something have to be terminated?
>>
>> thanks aaron.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> This is going to be the problem. Gotta have that word clock bro. Go from
>>> word clock out of whatever you have on card A (MEC, 442) into the word
> clock
>>> in of whatever you have on card B (MEC, 442).
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "john" <john@john.com> wrote in message news:499a3bb5$1@linux...
>>>> i do not have word clock connected. i don't remember which end needs
>> to
>>>> be
>>>> terminated.
>>>>
>>>> i get a screen shot of the patch bay up in a few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>> john,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using a word clock or did you connect the word clock connectors
>>>>> on the two units? Also, if you could post a screen shot of the patch
>>>>> bay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks Tom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah i did that... put the 442 on card A and mec on card B. the 442
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> fine that way... but then i can't get the mec inputs to record on card
>>>> B.
>>>>>> it's very strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how the EDS 1000 plays into this. I thought
>>>>>>> it didn't allow effects and that was the only difference from
>>>>>>> a 1000X.???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know I had this same sort of problem with three cards and 2 Mecs.
>>>>>>> The second Mec had to be connected to the first and last EDS cards
>>>>>>> for them to work properly. Doesn't seem like this is your problem
>>>>>>> with only two cards though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope someone else can chime in here. I know 442s can be finicky
>>>>>>> in multi card systems. Some say that it has to be connected to the
>>>>>>> Master
>>>>>>> card. Might try that and put the Mec on card B just to see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "john cookman" <jcookman@sagu.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4999e377$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to
> show
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer
>>>> B.
>>>>>>>> i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see
>
>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>> on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no
>
>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>> showing in Mixer B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning
>> i
>>>> can
>>>>>>>> record through the 442 like normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing happens.
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> its not one of the cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have
>> 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>>> then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master...
> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>> occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue...
>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>> to different type cards?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for
> a
>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>> years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just stuck.
>>>>>>>> maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of something
>>>>>> i
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> haven't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>>>>>>>>> Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>>>>>>>>> Hmmm?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with
>> one
>>>>>> 8in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>>> and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals
>> to
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and
>> my
>>>>>> 442
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels
> but
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the
>
>>>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>> through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the
> Mix
>>>>>> B
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> section.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> John Cookman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Can't Record in 442 and MEC simultaneously... HELP!!! [message #102554 is a reply to message #102543] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 21:21 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
|
Senior Member |
|
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Glad you got it. Termination..... well, I've never really noticed any
difference with or without and I've tried both. If it makes you feel better,
slap a 75 ohm termination on the output of the last unit in the chain (card
B interface in this instance).
AA
"john cookman" <john@fixedit.com> wrote in message news:499b2ecf$1@linux...
>
> that was it! word clock did it... i just need to make sure i don't need a
> termination somewhere.
>
> thanks guys!
>
>
>
>
> "john cookman" <john@john.com> wrote:
>>
>>ok i will try this. doesn't something have to be terminated?
>>
>>thanks aaron.
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>This is going to be the problem. Gotta have that word clock bro. Go from
>>
>>>word clock out of whatever you have on card A (MEC, 442) into the word
> clock
>>
>>>in of whatever you have on card B (MEC, 442).
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"john" <john@john.com> wrote in message news:499a3bb5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> i do not have word clock connected. i don't remember which end needs
>>to
>>>> be
>>>> terminated.
>>>>
>>>> i get a screen shot of the patch bay up in a few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>john,
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you using a word clock or did you connect the word clock connectors
>>>>
>>>>>on the two units? Also, if you could post a screen shot of the patch
>>
>>>>>bay.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks Tom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah i did that... put the 442 on card A and mec on card B. the 442
>>
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> fine that way... but then i can't get the mec inputs to record on
>>>>>> card
>>>> B.
>>>>>> it's very strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm not sure how the EDS 1000 plays into this. I thought
>>>>>>>it didn't allow effects and that was the only difference from
>>>>>>>a 1000X.???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know I had this same sort of problem with three cards and 2 Mecs.
>>>>>>>The second Mec had to be connected to the first and last EDS cards
>>>>>>>for them to work properly. Doesn't seem like this is your problem
>>>>>>>with only two cards though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope someone else can chime in here. I know 442s can be finicky
>>>>>>>in multi card systems. Some say that it has to be connected to the
>>
>>>>>>>Master
>>>>>>>card. Might try that and put the Mec on card B just to see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good luck,
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"john cookman" <jcookman@sagu.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4999e377$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>yes. everything works as it should except i can't get Mixer B to
> show
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>signal from the 442 when i enable record on the mixer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>tracks play from mixer B like normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the 442 shows up in the patchbay... and i can route the 442 to mixer
>>>> B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i connected the MEC to card B and i have the same problem. i see
>
>>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>>on the mec. i route it to Mixer B and record enable but i get no
>
>>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>>showing in Mixer B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i connected the 442 to card A and it works as it should... meaning
>>i
>>>> can
>>>>>>>>record through the 442 like normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i've also flip flopped the cards pci slots and the same thing
>>>>>>>>happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>its not one of the cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>also both the mec and the 442 work with both cards when i only have
>>1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>installed.
>>>>>>>>then when i both both back in... no matter which in the master...
> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i have and eds-1000X and a eds-1000. could this be the issue...
>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>to different type cards?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i've had this system for a long time but it hasn't been setup for
> a
>>
>>>>>>>>couple
>>>>>>>>years. i got a paris system back in the 1.0 days... very early.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>sorry for the long post... thanks for everyone's time. i'm just
>>>>>>>>stuck.
>>>>>>>>maybe all this description will help one of you guys think of
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>haven't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>john
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is the 442 showing up in the patchbay? Routing all correct?
>>>>>>>>>Clock cables hooked up? Other audio plays on Card B?
>>>>>>>>>Hmmm?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"John Cookman" <jcookman@sagu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:4999d0af$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey guys, can anyone help me with this issue? I have a MEC with
>>one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>>and a 442 hooked up to two EDS-1000 cards. I am getting signals
>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>inputs on both units. My MEC inputs are assigned to Submix A and
>>my
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 442
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>are assigned to submix B. I can record on the MEC all channels
> but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>not get the 442 to receive a signal in the software. I see the
>
>>>>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>>>>through on the 442 hardware but it will not come through on the
> Mix
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>section.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Can anyone help me get this going?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>John Cookman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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