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- Re: mixing monitors A/B review [message #88247 is a reply to message #88215] Tue, 17 July 2007 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Upton is currently offline  Larry Upton   UNITED STATES
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Neil wrote:
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>> I use a recapped Yamaha PM2201--Supposedly they sound better than the PM2200
>> with the meters--the meters introduce some distorion accouding to lore.
>
>
> Yes, it's the coils in the meters which exhibit a LF buildup in
> the stator windings, and every time the needle moves, the
> reluctance between the steel stop-post & the copper needle
> changes, resulting in a very slight capacitive discharge
> between the needle & the clear mylar coating on the metal
> backplate, causing.... oh never mind, I got nowhere
> else to go with that one. lol
>
> :)
>

You just left out the part about the flux capacitors.....
- Re: New mixing monitors [message #88248 is a reply to message #88203] Tue, 17 July 2007 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Along with my NHT A-20's and B-20 which are configured as midfield's I'm
using NS10's along with an Alesis Mattica 900 power amp and a powered KRK
sub as nearfields. Working nicely here.

Deej

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
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> Bingo. Spend the money on the amp/sub combo. I found the mid imaging on
> the NS-10s to be really intense. At times, too intense but if there's
> something wrong in the mids boy will you know it. Wish I still had mine
> for this purpose.
>
> AA
>
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> news:469b918e$1@linux...
>>
>> I still love mixing on my NS10s--the key is power--
>> put a 50 watt a side amp on them and they suck--put 250 a side on
>> them and they come to life. Dial in an inexpensive sub with them and you
>> have a really sweet setup...I never have problems at mastering time...
>>
>>
>>
>> "wireline" <kennospam@wirelinestudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>My opinion only, so take it all with the proverbial grain of salt...
>>>
>>>Nothing on your list of possibilities will provide a more viable mixing
>> system
>>>than what you already have, NS10s...I have heard all of your
>>>possibilities
>>>except the focals, and mostly agree with your assessments of the
>>>shortfalls...each
>>>of the systems mentioned IMO lacks sufficient bass and overall system
>>>clarity
>>>- enough that your mixes really won't be any better as a result of
>>>spending
>>>a lot of cash, but they will be different.
>>>
>>>If you are wanting something deadly accurate, you will likely be spending
>>>a much bigger chunk of change...If given a chance, you may want to
>>>consider
>>>a used set of JBL 4311, Altec Model 19, Urei Time Aligned, Tannoy Golds,
>>>or some other mid field monitors - these boxes all have their own quirks,
>>>but seem to be less forgiving (thus causing you to be more accurate)
>>>
>>>There again, I like mixing with Radio Shack Minimum 7s...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>My current system monitors. Yamaha NS-10M Studio.
>>>>
>>>>Here's what in play. All active, bi-amp'd, 6"woofers/1"tweeties.
>>>>
>>>>JBL LSR4326p $999pr includes cal mic
>>>>
>>>>Adam A7 $999pr
>>>>
>>>>DynAudio BM5A $999pr
>>>>
>>>>Event ASP6 $999pr
>>>>
>>>>Focal Twin6
>>>>
>>>>Mackie HR824 $1200pr
>>>>
>>>>I picked these monitors from the Sweetwater catalog. My concerns:
>>>>
>>>>JBL: My experience with main PA JBL's is an overbrightness/bite to the
>>>
>>>>horns. This may not apply to studio monitors. It does have a
>>>>calibration
>>>
>>>>mic to set the speakers to the room vice tweaking the room.
>>>>
>>>>Adam: Recommended by Brad. I can't get on to their website.
>>>>www.adam-audio.com Site doesn't load.
>>>>
>>>>DynAudio: Unknown.
>>>>
>>>>Event: Had a friends studio using low end Event monitors and were
>>>>blown
>>>
>>>>quite easily. Also the sound was muddy on bottom and thin on top.
>>>>
>>>>Focal: Recommended by Dave. I don't anything about this company. I
>> can
>>>
>>>>not find any data.
>>>>
>>>>Mackie: Not my 1st choice but if someone has positive/negative
>>>>feedback,
>>>
>>>>I'd appreciate it. From what I've recently learned about my 1604vlz
>>>>(upper
>>>
>>>>mid harshness and lower mid muddyness) I'm uncomfortable about them and
>>>I'm
>>>>not sure I want Mackie speakers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm really looking to stay at the $999 price range for a pair of active
>>>6".
>>>>I would like zero colorization and a large sweet spot if possible.
>>>>Anybody
>>>
>>>>using any of the above? I'm leaning towards the Adams but only because
>>>of
>>>>Brad. I'm sure I won't be able to listen to many of the above
>>>>monitors.
>>>
>>>>I may get lucky on one/maybe two at best. I'm relying heavily on the
>>>>inputs
>>>
>>>>I recieve from this newsgroup. I too am quite "anal" about sound. I
>>>>want
>>>
>>>>it clean, clear, deep and rich. I think I can mix it if I get true
>>>>reference monitors.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>Wayne Carson
>>>>Paris user since '97
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
- Re: New mixing monitors [message #88249 is a reply to message #88176] Tue, 17 July 2007 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Wow! Such a variety. Great inputs.
>
> NS10s - John, can you recommend an amp? Quiet, clean, reference and cool
> (minimal heat) pushing 200w per side. I'm using an Alesis RA-100 now with
> just 75watts per side. It's quiet and cool.
>

The Alesis Matica 900 has 270W/CH at 8 ohms and runs quiet and cool. Though
discontinued, they can be found pretty easily and at good prices. If you add
a sub, be sure to use a powered sub.
- Re: New mixing monitors [message #88250 is a reply to message #88188] Tue, 17 July 2007 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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;o)

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:469bd71a$1@linux...
> Worse... I'm sending DJ there to re-wire your rig!
>
> David.
>

I'm gonna' have to start reading every thread here in self defense.

(now where'd I put that post hole digger?)

;o)
- Re: New mixing monitors [message #88251 is a reply to message #88249] Tue, 17 July 2007 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Carson is currently offline  Wayne Carson   UNITED STATES
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Thanks DJ. I'll check around for the amp.

Wayne



"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
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>
> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:469ba2b3@linux...
>> Wow! Such a variety. Great inputs.
>>
>> NS10s - John, can you recommend an amp? Quiet, clean, reference and cool
>> (minimal heat) pushing 200w per side. I'm using an Alesis RA-100 now
>> with just 75watts per side. It's quiet and cool.
>>
>
> The Alesis Matica 900 has 270W/CH at 8 ohms and runs quiet and cool.
> Though discontinued, they can be found pretty easily and at good prices.
> If you add a sub, be sure to use a powered sub.
>
- Re: New mixing monitors [message #88254 is a reply to message #88192] Tue, 17 July 2007 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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I was just about to suggest that idea -- rotate the whole mess 45
degrees... Best thing you can do for zero dollars when stuck working
in a standard box type room-in-a-house... You can park some stuff in
the corner behind your desk (computer, etc.), make a few other
creative adjustments -- but i bet things will sound a little less
boomy right from the jump...

Do it, man!

--chas.

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:15:38 -0700, "Wayne Carson"
<carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:

>Neil/Dave,
>
>Yes, that is a window to the left. Can't go farther to the left . . .
>family reasons. Did you mean, flip-flop the keyboard and rack? Nuthin'
>would change with the speaker placement.
>
>What do you think if I moved the rack and turned the desk at a 45 degree to
>the corner so that each monitor is equally spaced about 3' from the corner?
>I know, I'm still in a corner, but at least it would be a better balance.
>One monitor would be about half way along the left wall and the right
>monitor would be approx where the rack currently is. Then stuff a bunch of
>blankets behind the desk to fill up the void. I am pretty much stuck in
>this corner and it does work quite well with the exception of the corner
>speaker, so any more opinions on desk arrangements are welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Wayne
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:469bdaeb$1@linux...
>>
>> Dave's right - you really ought to see if you can rearrange your
>> setup so that you can have at least some semblance of a
>> bilaterally symmetrical front end there. What's off to the left
>> of that monitor over there? Is that a window frame? Better to
>> have glass behind there & have to throw some foam over that than
>> have one tight corner like you have on the right & one open wall
>> like you have on the left... what if you reversed the wing on
>> your table, so that the surface where your keyboard sits is off
>> to your right & that rack 'o stuff is off to your left? Would
>> that allow you to get the monitors more centered in the room?
>> Unless that's some custom-made & glued-up unit, I would suspect
>> that a few angle braces & dowels from Home Depot would do the
>> trick to faciliate a reversal.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
- Re: New mixing monitors [message #88258 is a reply to message #88165] Tue, 17 July 2007 18:12 Go to previous message
Graham Duncan is currently offline  Graham Duncan   UNITED STATES
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Yeah, get something as full-range as possible and something NS-10 or
Auratone-like. (I really like the Avantone MixCubes for this purpose).
The trick is finding/affording the nice full-range system...

Graham
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