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CPU load question [message #62707] Mon, 09 January 2006 11:04 Go to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
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Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:

I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!

My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.

I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.

Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
continue to scan incoming e-mail?

Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!

Chris
Re: CPU load question [message #62708 is a reply to message #62707] Mon, 09 January 2006 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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that's an edmund programming feature and cannot be changed as far as i
know. from all the bugs in this thing we're lucky it runs at all

Chris Lang wrote:
> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>
> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>
> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>
> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>
> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>
> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>
> Chris
Re: CPU load question [message #62710 is a reply to message #62707] Mon, 09 January 2006 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
continue to scan incoming e-mail?


Most likely it is. You should be able to turn it off as follows:

Start>Run>type msconfig>OK>Startup>find the McAffee app that is running and
untick the arrow in the box>reboot

You will get a message upon restarting saying that you are operating in a
different mode. Just untick the checkmark in the box that asks if you want
to be remended every time you start your computer.

If this works, then all you have to do is turn off McAffee when you are
using your machine as a DAW, then reenable McAfee in the Startup
configuration before you use log on to the internet.

You definitely shouldn't be having 50% CPU usage when idling, but if this is
a Dell, Compaq, HP, IBM,Gateway or any other *branded* computer, if probably
has all sorts of proprietary crap running in the background.

Another issue may be that your hrd drive is running in PIO mode instead of
DMA mode. You might check this in the devide manager in the IDS controllers
section of the Devices tree.

Good luck,

Deej




"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c2a595$1@linux...
>
> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>
> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>
> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>
> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>
> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>
> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>
> Chris
Re: CPU load question [message #62712 is a reply to message #62707] Mon, 09 January 2006 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
Senior Member
Chris,

You can also startup the task manager (start > run > taskmgr or the
"three finger salute") Switch to the processes tab and click on the cpu
header to sort by usage (if it shows all zeros click it once more to
flip it to descending sort). Check out what process are taking up cpu
time. Normally, if something is not misbehaving, the System Idle
Process will show at 98-99%. Whatever is using the cpu, identify it and
if possible eliminate it (if it is not obvious, find it by searching
your hard drive for the exe/dll. See if anyone claims ownership (i.e.
microsoft,McAfee) on the files properties pages. If not, you might want
to eliminate it from the config.)

Hope this helps,

JH


Chris Lang wrote:
> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>
> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>
> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>
> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>
> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>
> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>
> Chris
Re: CPU load question [message #62718 is a reply to message #62712] Mon, 09 January 2006 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
Thanks Jeff!

I have done that before, and here is the mystery:
The System Idle shows 98-99, yet the CPU load still
hovers at around 50%. Apparently, nothing is happening,
but it needs 50% load for that "nothing" to happen.
Whaa???

Thanks for your suggestions,

Chris


Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Chris,
>
>You can also startup the task manager (start > run > taskmgr or the
>"three finger salute") Switch to the processes tab and click on the cpu

>header to sort by usage (if it shows all zeros click it once more to
>flip it to descending sort). Check out what process are taking up cpu

>time. Normally, if something is not misbehaving, the System Idle
>Process will show at 98-99%. Whatever is using the cpu, identify it and

>if possible eliminate it (if it is not obvious, find it by searching
>your hard drive for the exe/dll. See if anyone claims ownership (i.e.
>microsoft,McAfee) on the files properties pages. If not, you might want

>to eliminate it from the config.)
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>JH
>
>
>Chris Lang wrote:
>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>
>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>
>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>
>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>
>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>
>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>
>> Chris
Re: CPU load question [message #62719 is a reply to message #62718] Mon, 09 January 2006 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
Senior Member
What is telling you there is a 50% load?

JH

Chris Lang wrote:
> Thanks Jeff!
>
> I have done that before, and here is the mystery:
> The System Idle shows 98-99, yet the CPU load still
> hovers at around 50%. Apparently, nothing is happening,
> but it needs 50% load for that "nothing" to happen.
> Whaa???
>
> Thanks for your suggestions,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>Chris,
>>
>>You can also startup the task manager (start > run > taskmgr or the
>>"three finger salute") Switch to the processes tab and click on the cpu
>
>
>>header to sort by usage (if it shows all zeros click it once more to
>>flip it to descending sort). Check out what process are taking up cpu
>
>
>>time. Normally, if something is not misbehaving, the System Idle
>>Process will show at 98-99%. Whatever is using the cpu, identify it and
>
>
>>if possible eliminate it (if it is not obvious, find it by searching
>>your hard drive for the exe/dll. See if anyone claims ownership (i.e.
>>microsoft,McAfee) on the files properties pages. If not, you might want
>
>
>>to eliminate it from the config.)
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>JH
>>
>>
>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>
>>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>
>>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>
>>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>
>>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>
>>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>
>>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>
>>>Chris
>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62762 is a reply to message #62707] Mon, 09 January 2006 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
Hi Chris,
What motherboard are you using?

Chris


Chris Lang wrote:

> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>
> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>
> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>
> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>
> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>
> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>
> Chris

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
Re: CPU load question [message #62766 is a reply to message #62762] Mon, 09 January 2006 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
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Member
K7T Turbo 2...

In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
it is at 50%.

I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.


Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris



Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Chris,
>What motherboard are you using?
>
>Chris
>
>
>Chris Lang wrote:
>
>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>
>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>
>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>
>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>
>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>
>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>
>> Chris
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
Re: CPU load question [message #62767 is a reply to message #62766] Mon, 09 January 2006 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
load remains at 50+.

Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris


"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>
>K7T Turbo 2...
>
>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>it is at 50%.
>
>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>
>
>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>
>
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>Hi Chris,
>>What motherboard are you using?
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>
>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>
>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>
>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>
>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>
>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>
>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62768 is a reply to message #62767] Mon, 09 January 2006 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
you got a spyware problem bro?

Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds
like a hidden process to me.
Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you think
there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your drive that
has this malware built in

AA



"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>
> OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
> else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
> still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
> happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
> load remains at 50+.
>
> Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>
>
> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>
>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>
>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>it is at 50%.
>>
>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>
>>
>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>Hi Chris,
>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>
>>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>
>>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>
>>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>
>>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62773 is a reply to message #62768] Mon, 09 January 2006 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43c340ac$1@linux...
> you got a spyware problem bro?
>
> Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds
> like a hidden process to me.
> Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you
> think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your drive
> that has this malware built in
>
> AA
>
>
>
> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>> else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>> still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>> happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>> load remains at 50+.
>>
>> Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>
>>
>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>
>>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>>
>>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>it is at 50%.
>>>
>>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62775 is a reply to message #62773] Mon, 09 January 2006 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
Thanks Aaron- I'm on it. I know I have that Sony thing, because I can see
it on the list. Thanks for your help.
I'll post again in the morning after I try this...


"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:43c340ac$1@linux...
>> you got a spyware problem bro?
>>
>> Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds

>> like a hidden process to me.
>> Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you

>> think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your drive

>> that has this malware built in
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>>
>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>>> else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>>> still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>>> happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>>> load remains at 50+.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>>>
>>>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>>it is at 50%.
>>>>
>>>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>ADK
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62777 is a reply to message #62775] Tue, 10 January 2006 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
Hi,
I had same problem once and was defected Matrox G-550 video card
That caused always a 50% cpu load on my 2.0 Ghz Pentium 4
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>
>Thanks Aaron- I'm on it. I know I have that Sony thing, because I can see
>it on the list. Thanks for your help.
>I'll post again in the morning after I try this...
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:43c340ac$1@linux...
>>> you got a spyware problem bro?
>>>
>>> Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds
>
>>> like a hidden process to me.
>>> Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you
>
>>> think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your
drive
>
>>> that has this malware built in
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>>>> else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>>>> still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>>>> happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>>>> load remains at 50+.
>>>>
>>>> Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>>>>
>>>>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>>>it is at 50%.
>>>>>
>>>>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62785 is a reply to message #62775] Tue, 10 January 2006 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
HI Chris,
How long have you been using the machine? Did it just start doing this?
Also if you are using 2 sticks of 512 ram try reducing it to one stick
and see if it is still doing it.
If that makes a difference then try one stick at a time in the first slot.
How many EDS cards are in the system?


Chris

Chris Lang wrote:
> Thanks Aaron- I'm on it. I know I have that Sony thing, because I can see
> it on the list. Thanks for your help.
> I'll post again in the morning after I try this...
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:43c340ac$1@linux...
>>
>>>you got a spyware problem bro?
>>>
>>>Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds
>
>
>>>like a hidden process to me.
>>>Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you
>
>
>>>think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your drive
>
>
>>>that has this malware built in
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>>>>else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>>>>still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>>>>happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>>>>load remains at 50+.
>>>>
>>>>Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>>>>
>>>>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>>>it is at 50%.
>>>>>
>>>>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>>>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>>>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>>>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>>>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>>>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>>>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>>>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>>>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>>>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
Re: CPU load question [message #62787 is a reply to message #62785] Tue, 10 January 2006 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
Hi and thanks again for all the suggestions-

I have eliminated all spyware found, but no change in CPU load.
This thing is a bit faster now, though, so that's cool.

I can't figure out how to dump that Sony worm; I couldn't find
it specifically on the Microsoft website, and the download that
did claim the ability to find it, didn't.

CPU load still hovering at 50%. If this is useful info at all,
I can still hear the CPU "working", even when it should be idle.
Something is going on in there, but what?

I have 2 EDS cards, and two of the 512MB RAM sticks. I have had
an nVidia video card since building this thing about 2 1/2
years ago.

The CPU load has been like this ever since I first discovered it about six
months ago, but could very well have been doing it
all along. I didn't think anything of it, until a recent and
taxing mix job maxed everything out in PARIS, and I was getting digital clicks
and pops, and error messages.

Is there anything I can do to ID the issue at this point? Or do
I take it one at a time- replace video card, mess with RAM,
etc.?

Peace, Chris



Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Chris,
>How long have you been using the machine? Did it just start doing this?
>Also if you are using 2 sticks of 512 ram try reducing it to one stick
>and see if it is still doing it.
>If that makes a difference then try one stick at a time in the first slot.
>How many EDS cards are in the system?
>
>
>Chris
>
>Chris Lang wrote:
>> Thanks Aaron- I'm on it. I know I have that Sony thing, because I can
see
>> it on the list. Thanks for your help.
>> I'll post again in the morning after I try this...
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:43c340ac$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>you got a spyware problem bro?
>>>>
>>>>Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds
>>
>>
>>>>like a hidden process to me.
>>>>Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you
>>
>>
>>>>think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your
drive
>>
>>
>>>>that has this malware built in
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>>>>>else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>>>>>still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>>>>>happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>>>>>load remains at 50+.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>>>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>>>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>>>>it is at 50%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>>>>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>>>>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>>>>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>>>>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>>>>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>>>>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>>>>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>>>>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>>>>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
Re: CPU load question [message #62788 is a reply to message #62787] Tue, 10 January 2006 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Personally... I would wipe the drive and start over. That would
eliminate the Sony thing at the same time.

David.

Chris Lang wrote:
> Hi and thanks again for all the suggestions-
>
> I have eliminated all spyware found, but no change in CPU load.
> This thing is a bit faster now, though, so that's cool.
>
> I can't figure out how to dump that Sony worm; I couldn't find
> it specifically on the Microsoft website, and the download that
> did claim the ability to find it, didn't.
>
> CPU load still hovering at 50%. If this is useful info at all,
> I can still hear the CPU "working", even when it should be idle.
> Something is going on in there, but what?
>
> I have 2 EDS cards, and two of the 512MB RAM sticks. I have had
> an nVidia video card since building this thing about 2 1/2
> years ago.
>
> The CPU load has been like this ever since I first discovered it about six
> months ago, but could very well have been doing it
> all along. I didn't think anything of it, until a recent and
> taxing mix job maxed everything out in PARIS, and I was getting digital clicks
> and pops, and error messages.
>
> Is there anything I can do to ID the issue at this point? Or do
> I take it one at a time- replace video card, mess with RAM,
> etc.?
>
> Peace, Chris
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>HI Chris,
>>How long have you been using the machine? Did it just start doing this?
>>Also if you are using 2 sticks of 512 ram try reducing it to one stick
>>and see if it is still doing it.
>>If that makes a difference then try one stick at a time in the first slot.
>>How many EDS cards are in the system?
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Aaron- I'm on it. I know I have that Sony thing, because I can
>
> see
>
>>>it on the list. Thanks for your help.
>>>I'll post again in the morning after I try this...
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:43c340ac$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you got a spyware problem bro?
>>>>>
>>>>>Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds
>>>
>>>
>>>>>like a hidden process to me.
>>>>>Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your
>
> drive
>
>>>
>>>>>that has this malware built in
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>>>>>>else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>>>>>>still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>>>>>>happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>>>>>>load remains at 50+.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>K7T Turbo 2...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>>>>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>>>>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>>>>>it is at 50%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>What motherboard are you using?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>>>>>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>>>>>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>>>>>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>>>>>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>>>>>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>>>>>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>>>>>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>>>>>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62790 is a reply to message #62707] Tue, 10 January 2006 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark McDermott is currently offline  Mark McDermott   
Messages: 204
Registered: February 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Senior Member
Hi Chris,

I highly recommend the following piece of software:

http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/

It works great and has removed crap from my kids' computer when no other
tool would work (even stuff I couldn't edit out with regedit by hand). It's
well worth the money and will likely resolve your issue.

I've followed your thread and it sounds to me like you've got a hidden process
running. Some of these things are so insidious that they're nearly impossible
to kill.

Spyware Doctor also provides near daily updates for free as it appears the
*&*%ers that write these "programs" never sleep.

I hope this helps!

Mark

"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>
>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>
>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>
>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>
>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>
>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>
>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>
>Chris
Re: CPU load question [message #62795 is a reply to message #62790] Tue, 10 January 2006 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
Thanks Mark, I tried it. Looks like a nice program. it found
some stuff that the others did not. Cool.

Still at 50% load. Sigh...


"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>I highly recommend the following piece of software:
>
>http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/
>
>It works great and has removed crap from my kids' computer when no other
>tool would work (even stuff I couldn't edit out with regedit by hand). It's
>well worth the money and will likely resolve your issue.
>
>I've followed your thread and it sounds to me like you've got a hidden process
>running. Some of these things are so insidious that they're nearly impossible
>to kill.
>
>Spyware Doctor also provides near daily updates for free as it appears the
>*&*%ers that write these "programs" never sleep.
>
>I hope this helps!
>
>Mark
>
>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>
>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>
>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>
>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>
>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>
>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>
>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>
>>Chris
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62797 is a reply to message #62788] Tue, 10 January 2006 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
Hi,
Yeah that would seen to be the easiest solution to me too.

Make sure hat you ae using the newest BIOS,VIA chip set drivers and
Nvidia drivers after you install Windows and run all the Window updates.
Also remove the EDS cards and any non plug and play pci cards before
you install windows. Then install one EDS at a time.

Chris



EK Sound wrote:
> Personally... I would wipe the drive and start over. That would
> eliminate the Sony thing at the same time.
>
> David.
>
> Chris Lang wrote:
>
>> Hi and thanks again for all the suggestions-
>>
>> I have eliminated all spyware found, but no change in CPU load.
>> This thing is a bit faster now, though, so that's cool.
>>
>> I can't figure out how to dump that Sony worm; I couldn't find
>> it specifically on the Microsoft website, and the download that
>> did claim the ability to find it, didn't.
>>
>> CPU load still hovering at 50%. If this is useful info at all, I can
>> still hear the CPU "working", even when it should be idle.
>> Something is going on in there, but what?
>>
>> I have 2 EDS cards, and two of the 512MB RAM sticks. I have had
>> an nVidia video card since building this thing about 2 1/2 years ago.
>>
>> The CPU load has been like this ever since I first discovered it about
>> six
>> months ago, but could very well have been doing it
>> all along. I didn't think anything of it, until a recent and
>> taxing mix job maxed everything out in PARIS, and I was getting
>> digital clicks
>> and pops, and error messages.
>>
>> Is there anything I can do to ID the issue at this point? Or do
>> I take it one at a time- replace video card, mess with RAM,
>> etc.?
>>
>> Peace, Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Chris,
>>> How long have you been using the machine? Did it just start doing this?
>>> Also if you are using 2 sticks of 512 ram try reducing it to one
>>> stick and see if it is still doing it.
>>> If that makes a difference then try one stick at a time in the first
>>> slot.
>>> How many EDS cards are in the system?
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Chris Lang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Aaron- I'm on it. I know I have that Sony thing, because I can
>>
>>
>> see
>>
>>>> it on the list. Thanks for your help. I'll post again in the
>>>> morning after I try this...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com *
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43c340ac$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> you got a spyware problem bro?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer.
>>>>>> Sounds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> like a hidden process to me.
>>>>>> Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your
>>
>>
>> drive
>>
>>>>
>>>>>> that has this malware built in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything
>>>>>>> else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load
>>>>>>> still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing
>>>>>>> happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU
>>>>>>> load remains at 50+.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> K7T Turbo 2...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager
>>>>>>>> screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main
>>>>>>>> screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that
>>>>>>>> it is at 50%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>> What motherboard are you using?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris Lang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>>>>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>>>>>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>>>>>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>>>>>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>>>>>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>>>>>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>>>>>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>>>>>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>> ADK
>>>>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: CPU load question [message #62800 is a reply to message #62795] Tue, 10 January 2006 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark McDermott is currently offline  Mark McDermott   
Messages: 204
Registered: February 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Senior Member
Hi Chris,

I think you have to actually purchase the software and then let it download
the latest updates before it will catch all the late-breaking variants.

After rebuilding my kids' PC for the 2nd time I went ahead and bought it
and they haven't had a single problem since.

You might want to call the folks at PC Tools to see if my previous statement
is correct. Their LiveUpdate utility has a new database available for me
nearly everyday so I'd ask.

Hope you find the culprit(s)!

Mark

"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>
>Thanks Mark, I tried it. Looks like a nice program. it found
>some stuff that the others did not. Cool.
>
>Still at 50% load. Sigh...
>
>
>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Chris,
>>
>>I highly recommend the following piece of software:
>>
>>http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/
>>
>>It works great and has removed crap from my kids' computer when no other
>>tool would work (even stuff I couldn't edit out with regedit by hand).
It's
>>well worth the money and will likely resolve your issue.
>>
>>I've followed your thread and it sounds to me like you've got a hidden
process
>>running. Some of these things are so insidious that they're nearly impossible
>>to kill.
>>
>>Spyware Doctor also provides near daily updates for free as it appears
the
>>*&*%ers that write these "programs" never sleep.
>>
>>I hope this helps!
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>
>>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>
>>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>
>>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>
>>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>
>>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>
>>>Chris
>>
>
Re: CPU load question [message #62802 is a reply to message #62800] Tue, 10 January 2006 14:18 Go to previous message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
Thanks Mark, my message was unclear- I did purchase the program, and removed
the files it found. Again, seems like a great program, and I look forward
to using it to keep stuff from invading my space.

But I'm still at 50% load.

With computers as cheap as they are, I may just get a new DAW-only machine,
and then I won't have to worry about the crazy ol' web clogging up my PARIS
stuff...

Chris

"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>I think you have to actually purchase the software and then let it download
>the latest updates before it will catch all the late-breaking variants.
>
>After rebuilding my kids' PC for the 2nd time I went ahead and bought it
>and they haven't had a single problem since.
>
>You might want to call the folks at PC Tools to see if my previous statement
>is correct. Their LiveUpdate utility has a new database available for me
>nearly everyday so I'd ask.
>
>Hope you find the culprit(s)!
>
>Mark
>
>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks Mark, I tried it. Looks like a nice program. it found
>>some stuff that the others did not. Cool.
>>
>>Still at 50% load. Sigh...
>>
>>
>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>I highly recommend the following piece of software:
>>>
>>>http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/
>>>
>>>It works great and has removed crap from my kids' computer when no other
>>>tool would work (even stuff I couldn't edit out with regedit by hand).
>It's
>>>well worth the money and will likely resolve your issue.
>>>
>>>I've followed your thread and it sounds to me like you've got a hidden
>process
>>>running. Some of these things are so insidious that they're nearly impossible
>>>to kill.
>>>
>>>Spyware Doctor also provides near daily updates for free as it appears
>the
>>>*&*%ers that write these "programs" never sleep.
>>>
>>>I hope this helps!
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up:
>>>>
>>>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400.
>>>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed
>>>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that
>>>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load
>>>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!!
>>>>
>>>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which
>>>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load.
>>>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk.
>>>>
>>>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak
>>>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load.
>>>>
>>>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any
>>>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I
>>>>continue to scan incoming e-mail?
>>>>
>>>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>
>>
>
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