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| More on quad cores [message #72314] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 06:37  |
TCB
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Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v. normal
Core Duos.
http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to a 'benchmark'
XP system which finds interesting results.
Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest performance
boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . . .
TCB
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72317 is a reply to message #72314] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 07:33  |
gene lennon
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v. normal
>Core Duos.
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>http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
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>I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to a
'benchmark'
>XP system which finds interesting results.
>
>Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest performance
>boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . . .
>
>TCB
YES!!
Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72334 is a reply to message #72317] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 12:03 |
Deej [1]
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This may be the first *really* good reason I've heard for even considering a
new Mac. I think what I like about it the most is that it is changing.the
Mac.
;o)
"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:450816a0$1@linux...
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> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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> >Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v.
normal
> >Core Duos.
> >
> >http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
> >
> >I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to a
> 'benchmark'
> >XP system which finds interesting results.
> >
> >Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
performance
> >boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . . .
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> >
> >TCB
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>
> YES!!
>
> Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
>
> gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72339 is a reply to message #72317] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 13:17 |
Jamie K
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Nice. Bring 'em on!
I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins, two
to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
gene Lennon wrote:
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v. normal
>> Core Duos.
>>
>> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
>>
>> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to a
> 'benchmark'
>> XP system which finds interesting results.
>>
>> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest performance
>> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . . .
>
>> TCB
>
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> YES!!
>
> Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
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> gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72342 is a reply to message #72339] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 14:25 |
Deej [1]
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I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are available
to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version that
will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the Clovertons,
install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
Deej
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4508659c$1@linux...
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> Nice. Bring 'em on!
>
> I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins, two
> to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
> um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> gene Lennon wrote:
> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v.
normal
> >> Core Duos.
> >>
> >> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
> >>
> >> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to a
> > 'benchmark'
> >> XP system which finds interesting results.
> >>
> >> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
performance
> >> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . . .
> >
> >> TCB
> >
> >
> > YES!!
> >
> > Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
> >
> > gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72343 is a reply to message #72342] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 14:55 |
Jamie K
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You may be right, Deej. Let's see what they do. It would be nice if they
didn't put any road blocks up to what's already seemingly possible.
My guess is if replacing the CPU works now, it'll work pretty much the
same way later - but the new machines out at that time might be more
optimized for the new chips. Just for fun I'll put a beer on that if yer
willin'.
What the heck, next time you're in Denver I'll buy you a beer anyway. :^)
How Apple handles CPU upgrades this time around won't affect me. I'm
fine with my dual G5. The current Intel towers, while very nice, don't
offer that much more than what I've already been using for the last
couple of years.
But 8 cores might make it worth considering a new box next year. Not for
audio, my system already has plenty horsepower for that, but for
animation and possible 2K or even 4K video editing/compositing.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are available
> to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
> upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version that
> will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the Clovertons,
> install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
>
> Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4508659c$1@linux...
>> Nice. Bring 'em on!
>>
>> I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins, two
>> to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
>> um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> gene Lennon wrote:
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v.
> normal
>>>> Core Duos.
>>>>
>>>> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
>>>>
>>>> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to a
>>> 'benchmark'
>>>> XP system which finds interesting results.
>>>>
>>>> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
> performance
>>>> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . . .
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>> YES!!
>>>
>>> Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
>>>
>>> gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72344 is a reply to message #72342] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 15:01 |
Tony Benson
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Well I wouldn't put it past them, but let's hide and watch. We've been able
to upgrade Apple CPU's for ever. They haven't necessarily been "pin for pin
compatible"swap CPU's, but third party companies have offered upgrades for
as long as I can remember. Maybe Apple will surprise us. I'm not gonna hold
my breath, but you never know. The quad cores should be out by the time I'm
looking to move up anyway! ;>)
Tony
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4508781f@linux...
>I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are
>available
> to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
> upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version that
> will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the
> Clovertons,
> install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
>
> Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4508659c$1@linux...
>>
>> Nice. Bring 'em on!
>>
>> I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins, two
>> to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
>> um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> gene Lennon wrote:
>> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> >> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance v.
> normal
>> >> Core Duos.
>> >>
>> >> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
>> >>
>> >> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons to
>> >> a
>> > 'benchmark'
>> >> XP system which finds interesting results.
>> >>
>> >> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
> performance
>> >> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm . .
>> >> .
>> >
>> >> TCB
>> >
>> >
>> > YES!!
>> >
>> > Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
>> >
>> > gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72368 is a reply to message #72342] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 06:05 |
chuck duffy
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DJ,
There's already a dude who put two quad samples in his mac, and powered up
with 8 active processors!
Chuck
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are available
>to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
>upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version that
>will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the Clovertons,
>install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
>
>Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
>
>Deej
>
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4508659c$1@linux...
>>
>> Nice. Bring 'em on!
>>
>> I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins, two
>> to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
>> um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> gene Lennon wrote:
>> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> >> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance
v.
>normal
>> >> Core Duos.
>> >>
>> >> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
>> >>
>> >> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons
to a
>> > 'benchmark'
>> >> XP system which finds interesting results.
>> >>
>> >> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
>performance
>> >> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm .
. .
>> >
>> >> TCB
>> >
>> >
>> > YES!!
>> >
>> > Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
>> >
>> > gene
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72370 is a reply to message #72368] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 06:45 |
Deej [1]
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I saw that they did this on anandtech. Are quad core CPU's now available to
the general public? My thought was that if the Quad'ws aren't yet available,
that Apple will find a way between now and then to bugger this up to the
point that it won't be possible unless they are purchased from Apple.
Hope I'm wrong.
Deej
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:4509537e$1@linux...
>
> DJ,
>
> There's already a dude who put two quad samples in his mac, and powered up
> with 8 active processors!
>
> Chuck
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are
available
> >to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
> >upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version that
> >will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the
Clovertons,
> >install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
> >
> >Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
> >"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
news:4508659c$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Nice. Bring 'em on!
> >>
> >> I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins, two
> >> to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
> >> um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> gene Lennon wrote:
> >> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >> >> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance
> v.
> >normal
> >> >> Core Duos.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons
> to a
> >> > 'benchmark'
> >> >> XP system which finds interesting results.
> >> >>
> >> >> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
> >performance
> >> >> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm .
> .
> >> >
> >> >> TCB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > YES!!
> >> >
> >> > Eight, ocho, huit, acht, otto, BOCeMb, atte, Qk, 8!
> >> >
> >> > gene
> >
> >
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72389 is a reply to message #72370] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 15:40 |
chuck duffy
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SAMPLES, I SAID SAMPLES :-) The big sites get them. It's one of the perks
when you life consists of running benchmark suites non-stop.
Chuck
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I saw that they did this on anandtech. Are quad core CPU's now available
to
>the general public? My thought was that if the Quad'ws aren't yet available,
>that Apple will find a way between now and then to bugger this up to the
>point that it won't be possible unless they are purchased from Apple.
>
>Hope I'm wrong.
>
>Deej
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:4509537e$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>>
>> There's already a dude who put two quad samples in his mac, and powered
up
>> with 8 active processors!
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are
>available
>> >to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
>> >upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version
that
>> >will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the
>Clovertons,
>> >install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
>> >
>> >Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
>> >
>> >Deej
>> >
>> >
>> >"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>news:4508659c$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Nice. Bring 'em on!
>> >>
>> >> I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins,
two
>> >> to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
>> >> um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> -Jamie
>> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> gene Lennon wrote:
>> >> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance
>> v.
>> >normal
>> >> >> Core Duos.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons
>> to a
>> >> > 'benchmark'
>> >> >> XP system which finds interesting results.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
>> >performance
>> >> >> boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm
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| Re: More on quad cores [message #72418 is a reply to message #72389] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 22:21 |
Chris Ludwig
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HI Chuck,
Yes engineers samples go out to review site first then out to vendors.
WE should be getting some in a 2 or 3 weeks I think. I believe they will
start to be ready available as long as there are no issues along the way
probably Oct/November.
Biggest issues for Xeons still are still heat and noise. Allot lest than
they used to be but for some reason still uses that stupid 604 based
socket design even thought the chips could easily use the 775 one like
the P4 and Conroe. Hardly anyone makes 3rd party CPU heat sinks so it is
very difficult and more expensive trying to make them quiet.
The Opterons are very easy to get quiet heat sinks for because they use
the same socket as the x2.
Chris
chuck duffy wrote:
> SAMPLES, I SAID SAMPLES :-) The big sites get them. It's one of the perks
> when you life consists of running benchmark suites non-stop.
>
> Chuck
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>>I saw that they did this on anandtech. Are quad core CPU's now available
>
> to
>
>>the general public? My thought was that if the Quad'ws aren't yet available,
>>that Apple will find a way between now and then to bugger this up to the
>>point that it won't be possible unless they are purchased from Apple.
>>
>>Hope I'm wrong.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:4509537e$1@linux...
>>
>>>DJ,
>>>
>>>There's already a dude who put two quad samples in his mac, and powered
>
> up
>
>>>with 8 active processors!
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I will guarantee you that by the time that the Cloverton quads are
>>
>>available
>>
>>>>to the public, Apple will have found a way to prevent the user from
>>>>upgrading the machine themselves and will likely have a quad version
>
> that
>
>>>>will cost more $$ than it would cost for the end user to buy the
>>
>>Clovertons,
>>
>>>>install them and then sell the older CPU's to recoup his costs.
>>>>
>>>>Hide an watch. They have been taking Digidesign lessons for year.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>
>>news:4508659c$1@linux...
>>
>>>>>Nice. Bring 'em on!
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll use two processor cores to run Logic with a gazillion plugins,
>
> two
>
>>>>>to render animations, two to compress video for HD-DVD or BluRay, and
>>>>>um, the last two to cook something tasty for lunch...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>gene Lennon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anandtech puts two quad cores inside a Mac and reports performance
>>>
>>>v.
>>>
>>>>normal
>>>>
>>>>>>>Core Duos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm a littl surprised this worked at all. There's also comparisons
>>>
>>>to a
>>>
>>>>>>'benchmark'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XP system which finds interesting results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Surprise surprise, mulitithreaded 3D tests show _by far_ the biggest
>>>>
>>>>performance
>>>>
>>>>>>>boost. Those apps work a lot like a well written audio app. Hmmmm
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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