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| Re: Surface... [message #85656 is a reply to message #85655] |
Wed, 30 May 2007 10:35   |
Dedric Terry
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Registered: June 2007
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Have you seen a price on JazzMutant? I'm thinking Lemur was $6k+ (but could
be wrong), so I'm guessing $5-10k.
Actually, in place of a control surface (if it fully suffices for one) it
could be a viable alternative to
an ID or Euphonix MC, though I'm still jonesin' for an MC.... :-)
One day we'll be using these things for mixing and people will wonder what
the heck
one did with a hardware console that couldn't change views, layouts,
screens, or customize
faders, throw length, etc. ;-)
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:465db128@linux...
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> Other multi-touch projects already in progress:
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> http://www.jazzmutant.com/
> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/65
> http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirsense/
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/
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> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
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> Neil wrote:
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinRedmond.com> wrote:
>>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18928656
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>>> SSC would LOVE this sh*t. Think there are audio applications?
>>>
>>> Oh yeah...
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>> Oh great - just what the world needs... another Theremin.
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>> :)
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| Re: Surface... [message #85660 is a reply to message #85656] |
Wed, 30 May 2007 11:03 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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I don't know the prices but they should come down over time.
I'm currently comfortable mixing using a mouse, with no control surface
needed. I can be very precise that way, and Logic is already
configurable to group and show channels onscreen as I like. So I
vacillate on whether a control surface would be a worthwhile improvement.
The MC looks interesting, if you get one I'll have to come check it out.
Multi-touch interface ideas are flashy and intriguing. Maybe even moreso
for graphics work than audio. The demos look like fun!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Have you seen a price on JazzMutant? I'm thinking Lemur was $6k+ (but could
> be wrong), so I'm guessing $5-10k.
>
> Actually, in place of a control surface (if it fully suffices for one) it
> could be a viable alternative to
> an ID or Euphonix MC, though I'm still jonesin' for an MC.... :-)
>
> One day we'll be using these things for mixing and people will wonder what
> the heck
> one did with a hardware console that couldn't change views, layouts,
> screens, or customize
> faders, throw length, etc. ;-)
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:465db128@linux...
>> Other multi-touch projects already in progress:
>>
>> http://www.jazzmutant.com/
>> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/65
>> http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirsense/
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/
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>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinRedmond.com> wrote:
>>>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18928656
>>>>
>>>> SSC would LOVE this sh*t. Think there are audio applications?
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah...
>>> Oh great - just what the world needs... another Theremin.
>>>
>>> :)
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| Re: Surface... [message #85661 is a reply to message #85640] |
Wed, 30 May 2007 11:24 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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The whole thing is remarkably intuitive, says Gates, because it’s remarkably
similar to what people do in everyday life. “When you make it so that it's
just visual — touch and visual — you're drawing on what humans are incredibly
good at,” he said. “You know, what people have been practicing their entire
lives. People will start to see that this world of information and entertainment
is going to be far more accessible."
I dunno, I've spent a fair bit of my life practicing how to use bash and
Emacs. Not sure if I need to be able to push around stuff with my fingers
to use a computer.
Also, this is yet another attempt to make a computer act unlike a computer.
It's not going to make mistakes, need updates, recognize things incorrectly,
and so on. Maybe this is Microsoft's Newton?
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinRedmond.com> wrote:
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>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18928656
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>SSC would LOVE this sh*t. Think there are audio applications?
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>Oh yeah...
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>DC
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| Re: Surface... [message #85715 is a reply to message #85713] |
Thu, 31 May 2007 10:58 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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But the high end places already have things the smaller studios don't, like
SSL/Neve desks, big fancy monitors, vintage mics and instruments, hot secretaries,
coke dealers on speed dial, and so forth. But they're still getting their
clocks cleaned.
I'm wrong a lot, I thought the Colts were nuts for passing on Ryan Leaf (no,
really, I did), but I wouldn't bet a dime on the Surface getting traction
in the market.
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>Seems to me, because of the sophistication of the potential
>audio application using the thing, that it could provide something
>to the highend studio that the home DAW people cannot
>compete with, nor afford.
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>DC
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>I'm a professional geek, I saw the youtube stuff a while ago. Really cool
>>tech, I agree, I just don't see it having a wide enough appeal to go very
>>far.
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>>TCB
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>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>>Read this:
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>>> http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/112/open_features-cantto uchthis.html
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>>>Do watch the video...
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
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| Re: Surface... [message #85716 is a reply to message #85715] |
Thu, 31 May 2007 11:00 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I would. As a security guy, the applications I see for this thing are wild.
Casino's have lotttsa money and like toys that allow quick and accurate
access to visual information. Both visual and proximity information. Imagine
one web page to control all entries, cameras, motion detectors and audio
groups as well as routing what video to what viewing device. That web tech
already exists as an overlay, but with 'this' thing on top of it the
possiblities for speed and accuracy go way up.
Will it dominate? Not unless the price gets real reasonable. Consumers are
cheap.
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:465f0cae$1@linux...
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> But the high end places already have things the smaller studios don't,
> like
> SSL/Neve desks, big fancy monitors, vintage mics and instruments, hot
> secretaries,
> coke dealers on speed dial, and so forth. But they're still getting their
> clocks cleaned.
>
> I'm wrong a lot, I thought the Colts were nuts for passing on Ryan Leaf
> (no,
> really, I did), but I wouldn't bet a dime on the Surface getting traction
> in the market.
>
> TCB
>
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>Seems to me, because of the sophistication of the potential
>>audio application using the thing, that it could provide something
>>to the highend studio that the home DAW people cannot
>>compete with, nor afford.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm a professional geek, I saw the youtube stuff a while ago. Really cool
>>>tech, I agree, I just don't see it having a wide enough appeal to go very
>>>far.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Read this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/112/open_features-cantto uchthis.html
>>>>
>>>>Do watch the video...
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Surface... [message #85719 is a reply to message #85715] |
Thu, 31 May 2007 13:52 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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A-ha, but none of those things represents "the future" does it?
<grin>
Wouldn't be the first time the pros have made a living from
industry hype...
DC
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>But the high end places already have things the smaller studios don't, like
>SSL/Neve desks, big fancy monitors, vintage mics and instruments, hot secretaries,
>coke dealers on speed dial, and so forth. But they're still getting their
>clocks cleaned.
>
>I'm wrong a lot, I thought the Colts were nuts for passing on Ryan Leaf
(no,
>really, I did), but I wouldn't bet a dime on the Surface getting traction
>in the market.
>
>TCB
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>Seems to me, because of the sophistication of the potential
>>audio application using the thing, that it could provide something
>>to the highend studio that the home DAW people cannot
>>compete with, nor afford.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm a professional geek, I saw the youtube stuff a while ago. Really cool
>>>tech, I agree, I just don't see it having a wide enough appeal to go very
>>>far.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Read this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/112/open_features-cantto uchthis.html
>>>>
>>>>Do watch the video...
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
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